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| 19:57.49 | _OskaR_ | Is there anny hopes for further Os updates for N9 ? |
| 19:58.13 | bluefox | none |
| 19:59.36 | _OskaR_ | ok good to have it confirmed. thx. cant say how that feels. Love my N9 |
| 20:00.17 | bluefox | the group responsible for meego/N9 at nokia no longer exists, so not much that can be done about that...been that way for nearly a year |
| 20:00.51 | _OskaR_ | yea i know.. was hoping it was picked up by some other... |
| 20:02.23 | bluefox | well, there's jolla, but that's a tad different |
| 20:02.34 | _OskaR_ | oh.. |
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| 20:06.44 | _OskaR_ | but still can be crammed onto an N9 ? |
| 20:08.53 | bluefox | believe so unofficially, but don't believe any of that has been released publicly |
| 20:09.02 | _OskaR_ | cool |
| 20:09.22 | _OskaR_ | nice some skills are still sane.. |
| 20:14.07 | _OskaR_ | k,. tc bluefox, thx for the headsup |
| 20:15.19 | bluefox | no problem |
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| 22:02.20 | juiceme | Hurrian, ping |
| 22:02.28 | Hurrian | juiceme, pong |
| 22:03.01 | juiceme | just posted the L2 fixed kernel to ubiboot site |
| 22:03.08 | Hurrian | ah |
| 22:03.23 | Hurrian | I'll be testing it later, once I fix up some .plists. |
| 22:03.59 | juiceme | I actually recompiled openmode+l2fix from scratch on top of vanilla as I had tons of own mods on my running kernels :) |
| 22:04.42 | juiceme | test it, please. I whonder how many others like Theyosh have the same problem |
| 22:05.09 | juiceme | Because for me it is just slow to start, it will always boot up eventually... |
| 22:07.00 | Hurrian | Alright, copied the kernel on the device, I'll add it to the boot menu. |
| 22:07.41 | juiceme | That is the nice part, no more flashing this and that ;) |
| 22:08.43 | Hurrian | juiceme: fwiw, it seems that you can't flash kernels onto the device in Open Mode, which blows. |
| 22:11.34 | juiceme | hmm...? So you mean that the /sbin/flash_* tools do not work on mtd2..? |
| 22:11.51 | Hurrian | nah, flasher. |
| 22:11.56 | juiceme | that kind of makes sense |
| 22:12.34 | Hurrian | NAND isn't actually locked, but flasher probably reads the config bitfield and refuses to flash. |
| 22:12.56 | Hurrian | All the more reason to develop a replacement for that blob. |
| 22:13.25 | Hurrian | …and L2 patched kernel is booting... |
| 22:13.34 | juiceme | tha tshould be doable, it's propably fairly generic flashing algorithms |
| 22:15.06 | juiceme | Well, if it doesn't work on open mode that kind of puts a cap on the idea of creating a .deb of ubiboot istall.. which is OK by me anyways, as I like to keep it a manual process :) |
| 22:15.10 | Hurrian | juiceme: this is weird - It quickly got to the pulsing Nokia logo, and then rebooted. |
| 22:15.17 | juiceme | ? |
| 22:15.25 | juiceme | no s*it? |
| 22:15.32 | Hurrian | yes. |
| 22:15.38 | Hurrian | It's rebooting again right now. |
| 22:15.48 | Hurrian | Lemme try with regular patched Openmode. |
| 22:15.49 | juiceme | Worked for me... I don't understand |
| 22:16.31 | Hurrian | hmm, maybe Harmattan's just that picky? |
| 22:16.46 | juiceme | Do you have the original Harmattan closed mode modules available, it uses those |
| 22:17.04 | Hurrian | juiceme, IIRC none of the kernels replace the modules |
| 22:17.06 | juiceme | PR1.3, that is |
| 22:17.13 | Hurrian | yep, using the shipped modules. |
| 22:20.40 | juiceme | Could there be some difference in the HW, mine is RM-696 v.1501 |
| 22:20.58 | Hurrian | 1507, iirc. |
| 22:21.06 | juiceme | Or more likely, there is some installed SW that is picky about the strtup |
| 22:21.09 | Hurrian | I don't see Nokia changing it up too much. |
| 22:21.55 | juiceme | I do not have any tweaks on mu device, no fastern9, no overclocking, no n9tweaks |
| 22:22.15 | juiceme | might something like that cause trouble? |
| 22:22.24 | Hurrian | None on mine too, the only 3rd party program that adds to startup is the battery meter app. |
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| 22:44.10 | Jonni | well sometimes harmattan takes a really long time to boot, especially if you have repartioned the flash for nemo, my personal record was over 60minutes to boot into harmattan (1st boot after installing nemo dualboot). |
| 22:44.49 | Jonni | most likely because system didnt like that much about changed partition table and it tries to recover from that change on 1st boot and it takes a long time |
| 22:45.22 | Jonni | boots after that goes smoothly though, if you just are patient enough to wait for 1+ hours and not press powerbutton :) |
| 22:46.03 | Jonni | ofcourse it helps when you attach serial console tx/rx pins and you can see whats happening :) |
| 22:47.25 | Jonni | and on some cases you might even need to disable watchdog timers to get 1st boot through |
| 22:54.14 | juiceme | Jonni, does it really just continue spinning the spinner for that long? |
| 22:54.27 | fmunozs | 60 mins is a lot of time |
| 22:54.48 | Jonni | juiceme: 60 mins of total black screen :) |
| 22:54.51 | Jonni | no spinner |
| 22:55.09 | bluefox | that's a lot of patience |
| 22:55.21 | Jonni | most people just think that device is dead and press powerbutton, when thats last thing that you should do |
| 22:56.11 | juiceme | For me, the longest boot times have been when I botched the mount order in preinit, and my /home/ did notget mounted at all. What happened, was that startup code created a new /home/ hierarchy on my root device :) |
| 22:57.40 | juiceme | After that when it finally came up (and it took about 5 minutes or so), I was really amazed as it looked like the device was wiped clean, of course it was issing everything I had installed on it |
| 22:58.21 | juiceme | When I started restoring it from backups, I only then noticed that my /dev/mmcblk0p3 was not mounted at all :) |
| 22:59.38 | Jonni | juiceme: I might try your ubiboot soon, currently Im just dualbooting between harmattan & sailfish with moslo kernel. But it would be nice to have graphical menu and not use volume buttons to choose :) |
| 23:00.41 | juiceme | please test it, the more people try it the easier it gets to iron out the potential bugs. |
| 23:01.27 | Hurrian | Jonni: I repartitioned the device to have /home on /, and it booted just fine afterward. |
| 23:01.31 | juiceme | atm I am a bit worried about this reboting on harmattan initialization. |
| 23:02.02 | Hurrian | juiceme: so far, it works OK, albeit annoyingly, with just Openmode patched kernel. |
| 23:02.20 | juiceme | Hurrian, so you think it is some partitioning thing that's going on there? |
| 23:02.25 | Hurrian | Nope. |
| 23:02.32 | Hurrian | It would be a massive b*tch though if you had startup programs that didn't allow CPU to sleep when you lock the screen. |
| 23:02.52 | juiceme | how about the reboot you faced when you first tried the om+l2 fix? |
| 23:02.56 | Jonni | juiceme: I'll have a look with serial output connected, that might give ideas, if there is any problems that why it it would reboot. |
| 23:03.08 | Hurrian | juiceme: I should probably install logging facilities for that |
| 23:03.21 | juiceme | Jonni, thanks. |
| 23:03.27 | Hurrian | It simply blanked the screen, and lit up the LED, as if it were shutting down. |
| 23:03.41 | Hurrian | And then went straight back to ubiboot. |
| 23:03.48 | juiceme | I still have not acquired a spare N9 for myself to play with serial console :( |
| 23:04.28 | juiceme | Hurrian, it did not rty to load up Harmattan at all? |
| 23:04.41 | juiceme | s/rty/try/ |
| 23:04.45 | Hurrian | It did try to load Harmattan - I was on the pulsing Nokia logo. |
| 23:06.12 | juiceme | Hurrian, if it failed during boot, you propably have a backbox log on /dev/mtd3 |
| 23:07.44 | Hurrian | juiceme: strings /dev/mtd3 gives a blank |
| 23:08.25 | juiceme | that's odd. Nothing from previous boots there then? |
| 23:08.40 | Hurrian | yep. |
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