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| 04:21.06 | djcloudy | Can someone please give me some advice? I'm trying to sync my linux ipaq using qtopia desktop 1.7, status bar just says inspecting installed packages, but no sync option is available |
| 04:35.37 | djcloudy | gah.. anyone around? |
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| 07:58.25 | mad_ady | hello everybody. I am a newbie with handhelds and familiar. I have a question, if I may... |
| 07:58.30 | mad_ady | I have a fujitsu-siemens n560 pda and I managed to get a linux kernel to boot on the device. |
| 07:58.36 | mad_ady | I also have a minimal (busybox) root filesystem. |
| 07:58.42 | mad_ady | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.48 | mad_ady | could you point me in the right direction? (what do I need, where do I get it?) |
| 07:58.53 | mad_ady | thank you... |
| 08:08.16 | r00t|ipaq | no howto or manual fcr that device? |
| 08:08.34 | mad_ady | sorry? |
| 08:08.44 | mad_ady | are you replying to me? |
| 08:08.56 | r00t|ipaq | positive |
| 08:09.20 | mad_ady | well, I bearly managed to get a working linux kernel, because my pda is not officially supported |
| 08:09.53 | mad_ady | and the original developer only managed to get the kernel to start, and to connect to the device through telnet via the cradle |
| 08:10.13 | mad_ady | I want to go the extra mile and try to install a graphical environment |
| 08:10.29 | mad_ady | I figure I first have to install ipkg - but what happens then? |
| 08:10.41 | r00t|ipaq | i'd just copy cver a familiar roct image nd try to boct it |
| 08:10.58 | mad_ady | I'm not sure if familiar also comes with the kernel, or is just a set of packages |
| 08:11.00 | r00t|ipaq | no installing |
| 08:11.07 | r00t|ipaq | no installing ipkg |
| 08:11.14 | mad_ady | so the root file system should do it... |
| 08:11.30 | mad_ady | it's crazy enough to work! :) |
| 08:11.33 | mad_ady | thanks for the tip |
| 08:11.44 | mad_ady | should I get the latest familiar image? |
| 08:11.45 | r00t|ipaq | the core system comes as a preinstalled image |
| 08:12.10 | mad_ady | yes, but this image also contains the kernel, right? |
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| 08:12.21 | r00t|ipaq | the one that works for you |
| 08:12.34 | r00t|ipaq | not necessarily |
| 08:12.38 | mad_ady | aha |
| 08:12.44 | mad_ady | ok |
| 08:12.48 | r00t|ipaq | or rather, no |
| 08:12.56 | mad_ady | can you point me where I can download a familiar image without the kernel? |
| 08:13.04 | mad_ady | (as I said, I'm new to this) |
| 08:13.09 | djcloudy | can someone please give me some tips? I have a PPP connection established with my iPaq 3700 series running latest versions of familiar and opie, trying to get internet connectivity to update! |
| 08:13.25 | r00t|ipaq | the kernel natunally has to be loaded _before_ the root |
| 08:14.04 | mad_ady | yes, I agreee |
| 08:14.15 | mad_ady | and it loads, but my rootfs is minimal |
| 08:14.17 | r00t|ipaq | mad_ady: qven if there is a kernel on the root, it's just a dead file |
| 08:14.30 | mad_ady | aha |
| 08:14.32 | mad_ady | I see. |
| 08:14.37 | mad_ady | thanks! |
| 08:14.44 | mad_ady | I'll give it a try |
| 08:14.45 | r00t|ipaq | mad_ady: modules might be an issue tho' |
| 08:15.04 | mad_ady | luckaly the kernel I'm using has everything compiled into it |
| 08:15.06 | mad_ady | no modules |
| 08:15.27 | mad_ady | naturally I expect I'll run into troubles with other things, but it's a start |
| 08:15.33 | mad_ady | I have another question |
| 08:15.48 | mad_ady | is this image a type of ext2 partition image? |
| 08:15.52 | mad_ady | can I mount it? |
| 08:15.56 | r00t|ipaq | sorry, i'm on the way to work on my first day, i really shouldnt be ircing ;) |
| 08:16.13 | r00t|ipaq | no, its jffs2... |
| 08:16.39 | r00t|ipaq | to be flashed onto a mtd flash device |
| 08:16.54 | mad_ady | ok |
| 08:17.00 | mad_ady | thanks for the help |
| 08:17.15 | mad_ady | I'm looking for a ext2 image, so I can start it with my existing kernel |
| 08:17.19 | mad_ady | I'll keep searching |
| 08:17.21 | r00t|ipaq | good luck getting |
| 08:17.26 | mad_ady | good luck with your job! |
| 08:17.39 | r00t|ipaq | it to worg |
| 08:17.40 | r00t|ipaq | k |
| 08:17.53 | mad_ady | 10x |
| 08:18.42 | r00t|ipaq | djcloudy: no usbnet on that model? |
| 08:18.50 | r00t|ipaq | ppp is easy |
| 08:19.03 | djcloudy | I don't think so, I'm downloading the .ipk file now to try and install it locally over serial |
| 08:19.12 | djcloudy | maybe that will work |
| 08:19.24 | r00t|ipaq | <--- ppp over bluetooth over gprs, sitting in a tram |
| 08:19.29 | djcloudy | lol |
| 08:19.35 | mad_ady | http://onut.net/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=42 |
| 08:19.39 | mad_ady | found something for me |
| 08:19.40 | djcloudy | I'm waiting for my wireless card to arrive |
| 08:19.42 | mad_ady | will keep reading |
| 08:19.49 | djcloudy | and will prolly get a bluetooth as well |
| 08:20.01 | djcloudy | once I get the memplug expansion pack workin with linux |
| 08:20.10 | djcloudy | but thats a whole different issue I'm not trying to get into yet |
| 08:20.11 | djcloudy | lol |
| 08:20.29 | djcloudy | can I get internet connectivity over the ppp connection? |
| 08:20.30 | r00t|ipaq | h2200, bought it for its builtin bt |
| 08:20.39 | r00t|ipaq | sure |
| 08:21.08 | djcloudy | I'm not sure what I'm missing, I setup the connection in Windows and it says connected |
| 08:21.26 | r00t|ipaq | i will be 5mins late... damn busses... |
| 08:21.50 | r00t|ipaq | djcloudy: defaultroute and routing |
| 08:22.06 | r00t|ipaq | djcloudy: i dont support windows |
| 08:22.21 | r00t|ipaq | djcloudy: maybe google ics |
| 08:23.22 | djcloudy | yeah, I've read everything available on that, unfortunately |
| 08:23.23 | djcloudy | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:23.34 | djcloudy | I'll have to try it when I get back home |
| 08:23.52 | djcloudy | but I figured I could somehow masquerade with the ppp connection in windows |
| 08:24.25 | r00t|ipaq | use a http proxy |
| 08:24.35 | djcloudy | hm |
| 08:26.02 | djcloudy | well, I got usbnet installed on the ipaq no prob |
| 08:26.09 | djcloudy | lets see if this changes anything |
| 08:26.47 | r00t|ipaq | lol |
| 08:30.09 | djcloudy | gah!!! |
| 08:30.18 | djcloudy | no luck |
| 08:31.05 | djcloudy | I didn't think I would need any configuration on the ipaq side to sync with qtopia |
| 08:33.56 | bluelightning | djcloudy: for syncing you will need to allow the PC's IP address in the security settings |
| 08:34.15 | djcloudy | bluelightning: I have it currently set to allow from all IP ranges |
| 08:34.49 | djcloudy | bluelightning: I also have it set to sync with qtopia 1.7 under securty config |
| 08:35.02 | bluelightning | djcloudy: that should be OK then |
| 08:36.12 | djcloudy | bluelightning: what about my usbf or usb0 configurations? do I need to setup anything special there? They are set to dhcp right nw |
| 08:36.50 | bluelightning | djcloudy: I'm not sure if dhcp will work... it would then need a dhcp server listening on the other side |
| 08:37.02 | bluelightning | just a static address should be fine |
| 08:37.11 | djcloudy | yeh. ok, how about the gw and dns? |
| 08:37.13 | bluelightning | eg. 192.168.0.202 (which is the default AFAIK) |
| 08:37.50 | bluelightning | default gateway should probably be the same as whatever the gateway is on your PC |
| 08:37.59 | bluelightning | dns, same there too |
| 08:38.12 | djcloudy | k |
| 08:38.21 | bluelightning | if your PC is doing forwarding correctly then you should be able to ping those addresses from the ipaq |
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| 08:49.01 | djcloudy | hm, still no luck |
| 08:58.18 | djcloudy | this shouldn't be so hard |
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| 14:43.11 | slapin | http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commit;h=025621f9a7c0efe1139d43d246136a0f3e8ea675 |
| 14:43.20 | slapin | ACPI song |
| 14:43.29 | slapin | how boring |
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| 18:01.14 | lorenzoZzZ | hi all, is someone here? |
| 18:01.43 | pH5 | ~seen someone |
| 18:01.45 | ibot | someone <n=jegerher@ti131310a340-2367.bb.online.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #wowhead, 30d 16h 13m 8s ago, saying: ' '< sushi'. |
| 18:02.31 | lorenzoZzZ | ok, excuse me.... i was looking for some help |
| 18:02.55 | lorenzoZzZ | the correct question is: Is here someone who may help me? |
| 18:03.22 | pH5 | lorenzoZzZ: depends on your problem, I guess. |
| 18:03.23 | lorenzoZzZ | i'm tring to boot familiar on my handheld |
| 18:04.18 | lorenzoZzZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:06.48 | lorenzoZzZ | i'm googling but nothing about this version of iPAQ. I think that is a Frankstein HandHeld. The Brand is Compaq but the HW is XDA.... am i right? |
| 18:07.01 | pH5 | lorenzoZzZ: this is the first time I hear about that device |
| 18:07.42 | lorenzoZzZ | one moment. i will post the url with a photo |
| 18:07.50 | pH5 | lorenzoZzZ: but this is not unusual, HTC builds a lot of handheld devices that are sold under completely different brand names |
| 18:09.55 | lorenzoZzZ | Ph5: ok. the builder of this phone is HTC or XDA? http://www.dbelectronics.it/public/images/FA777AT.jpg |
| 18:10.11 | pH5 | maybe somebody on #htc-linux knows if somebody has already worked on this. |
| 18:10.30 | pH5 | heh, this looks similar to htc magician. is it 2.8"? |
| 18:10.30 | lorenzoZzZ | ok, i'll join that channel |
| 18:10.43 | pH5 | I think Xda is just a brand name used by O2. |
| 18:10.49 | pH5 | the devices are produced by HTC. |
| 18:11.08 | lorenzoZzZ | i'm italian... not so familiar with inches.... it's about 10 cm |
| 18:11.27 | lorenzoZzZ | the brand on the phone is HP |
| 18:13.09 | pH5 | lorenzoZzZ: I meant the screen size. somehow I'm just used to inches there. |
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| 18:15.04 | lorenzoZzZ | ph5: ok, scuse me. yes, i think it is 2.8'' |
| 18:16.31 | lorenzoZzZ | i'm tring to boot with haret 3.7 but nothing... with haret 3.6 i see the tux, the eyes go red and then the system hangs up |
| 18:17.21 | pH5 | lorenzoZzZ: ah, now I see why I didn't know this device. it's not by htc after all, but initially developed by O2 in cooperation with quanta. |
| 18:17.47 | pH5 | lorenzoZzZ: as it runs on a pxa272 processor, it should be possible/not too hard to port linux to it, but I don't think there is any support available yet. |
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| 18:20.36 | lorenzo_ZzZ | ph5: i was disconnected. the device was developed by O2... |
| 18:20.52 | pH5 | "lorenzoZzZ: as it runs on a pxa272 processor, it should be possible/not too hard to port linux to it, but I don't think there is any support available yet." |
| 18:20.54 | lorenzo_ZzZ | but i cannot find infos on that device |
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