IRC log for #handhelds-opie on 20070519

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03:40.28*** topic/#handhelds-opie is Opie handheld environment - Open Palmtop Integrated Environment http://opie.handhelds.org . Mac Opie users please contact Harlekin.
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14:56.19selimcan someone help me to find out why my ipaq 5550, where I try to install the bootloader, just vibrates when I press the joypad center and press the reset button. No boot with the bootloader just a restart when I release the joypad and try the reset again.
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15:41.46bluelightningselim: it's meant to just vibrate...
15:41.46bluelightningie there will be no display on the screen while the bootloader is up... only on serial
15:42.40selimbluelightning: but on my 3630 there was a special boot screen, is this differen on 5550?
15:43.03bluelightningyes... the bootloader for h5550 doesn't support the display
15:43.31bluelightningalthough you can still press the same buttons, and interact with it via the serial port just as with the one on your h3630
15:43.44selimbluelightning: ah I see, ok, is it possible to do a serial console access through the usb port? Cause I don't have any serial port at all
15:43.55bluelightningselim: unfortunately no
15:44.24bluelightningthere is a "USB console" option in the bootloader that is supposed to emulate serial over USB, but AFAIK it has never worked
15:45.07selimbluelightning: ok and at which point can I use these buttons, cause my 5550 just starts directly with the windows mobile after reset
15:45.48bluelightningif that's the case then I guess you have only installed the bootloader and not linux
15:46.21bluelightningto go any further you will need a serial connection
15:47.20selimbluelightning, that's correct, so I connect the craddle at a serial port and it should work on serial console even if the ipaq started windows?
15:49.53bluelightningyes you can interact with the bootloader over serial even with wince still installed, they are separate
15:50.54selimbluelightning: great I will try that, just another question is there some sort of sync tool for windows with which I can sync my linux opie/gpe with calender and other stuff?
15:52.20bluelightningthere's qtopia desktop for windows that should sync with Opie
15:52.32bluelightningother than that you will need to wait until Opensync supports Windows
15:56.13selimbluelightning, do you have some experience with qtopia desktop especially with 2.2.0 it doesn't seem to start on my windows xp
15:56.42bluelightningI've run it under WinXP before, perhaps an older version than that though
15:58.15selimbluelightning, thank you for your help
15:58.51bluelightningno problem :)
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23:02.21florianHi all
23:03.22neostriderhi florian
23:03.34neostrideri still have that problem...
23:03.41floriani see
23:04.06neostrider(indeed, the only SDKs i have in here are qtopia and maemo...I would like my games to cover all the mobile tuxes)
23:04.50florianright we need to fix this...
23:08.23neostriderif it does help, Im having the same issues with gpe, opie and openmoko
23:08.34neostrideractually, moko is a different issue..
23:09.48florianmaybe it defaults to diferent compilers or library versions
23:14.24neostridermaybe...but scratchbox isolate stuff,right?
23:16.51florianin theory yes...
23:27.50neostriderbut i guess it does some symlinks to host system,right?
23:28.28neostrider(as you seem so multi-talented (maemo, gpe and opie) , im going to ask you...what do you know about qtopia?)
23:28.50florianyes it does, or well.... it ships some own libraries that are linked
23:29.01florianthat e.g. causes
23:29.17floriancompilers built on ubuntu fail in scratchbox
23:29.36florianneostrider: not much :)
23:29.39neostriderwell..my games actually run nice on the 770
23:29.50neostriderand I use dapper drake
23:30.42neostriderand I develop them right away in sbox
23:31.32florianbut not the compiler to build them :)
23:31.37neostrider(im trying to build up qtopia SDK from the source...actually , the greenphone SDK...but its not working...)
23:31.42neostriderohhh I see
23:31.49neostridernever tried to build from scratch
23:34.42floriani built compilers to be used with scratchbox lately...
23:47.13neostriderim not that hardcore
23:47.20neostriderim more a gamedev guy ;-)
23:47.34neostriderand also, I came from the S60 world
23:47.42neostridereverything was easy and graphical
23:48.01neostriderbut the ideal of freedom of GNU got me in the heart

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