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| 03:00.11 | mavihs | hi |
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| 03:32.21 | sandz | Hi.. |
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| 03:32.42 | sandz | I am on F1 visa and have applied for GSoC.. |
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| 03:33.37 | olly | sandz: the FAQ talks about F1 visas |
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| 03:33.46 | sandz | i will be applying for CPT(F1 visa)...is it possible that I can go to India for two weeks and work remotely from India? |
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| 03:34.32 | olly | sandz: i think you need to email the contact address with a question like that |
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| 03:34.47 | sandz | ok..thanks.. |
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| 10:39.49 | stain | Why is the "Want to mentor" listing in the Proposal view inconsistent? My colleague has clicked "Want to mentor" on https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/dashboard/organization/5694656234913792/proposal/6064461446119424/ - but I can't see it. I've done the same on 4694297152585728 - which I can see as a tick - but he can't see anything. Neither of us can see any mentor selected on 6064461446119424 - although our third colleague ... |
| 10:39.56 | stain | ... claims to have clicked there. |
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| 10:43.04 | why_so_serious | hello everyone, I have a query to ask |
| 10:43.04 | why_so_serious | i |
| 10:43.23 | why_so_serious | is there any slot limit on first time umbrella organizations? |
| 10:45.01 | why_so_serious | even if the organizations under that umbrella org had been participating in GSoC for last 3-4 years? |
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| 10:48.35 | olly | stain: "want to mentor" means *YOU* want to mentor |
| 10:49.16 | olly | once slots are allocated, the admin will presumably be able to see who has clicked that |
| 10:49.24 | olly | currently it only seems to be visible in the CSV export |
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| 10:52.15 | olly | stain: actually, the admins at least can also see it on the proposal page already |
| 10:52.26 | olly | it's just not shown in the proposal list view |
| 10:55.27 | olly | why_so_serious: i don't think first time umbrellas get special treatment, but if the org is essentially an evolution of a previous org or the admins are experienced from past years, you might |
| 10:56.52 | olly | you'd do better to email the contact address, or ask here when OSPO people might be around (west coast US working hours) |
| 10:57.37 | why_so_serious | thanks olly |
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| 11:26.39 | Freso | stain: As an org. admin, I can see which mentors have clicked "want to mentor" on a given proposal. |
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| 11:27.21 | Freso | olly: What's OSPO short for again? |
| 11:27.33 | Freso | Open Source Programs Office? |
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| 11:28.21 | M-aviraldg | Yep |
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| 11:30.01 | kblin | Freso: even from the overview page? |
| 11:30.30 | Freso | Oh, no, not there. Only on the specific proposals. |
| 11:30.38 | Freso | The overview page generally isn't very helpful. |
| 11:31.22 | Freso | Luckily we're not a huge org., so we don't have too many proposals to juggle. :) |
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| 11:41.09 | kblin | yeah, same here |
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| 11:41.37 | anilkumar1994 | hi |
| 11:42.36 | anilkumar1994 | can I use photo of my College ID card as Proof of Enrollment for GSoC ? |
| 11:43.29 | gevaerts | !proof | anilkumar1994 |
| 11:43.29 | gsocbot | anilkumar1994: "proof" is If you have questions or concerns about your enrollment document, don't ask on IRC or on public mailing lists, read https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/help/proof-of-enrollment - if you still need help, contact gsoc-support@google.com instead. |
| 11:45.38 | anilkumar1994 | kk |
| 11:46.17 | kblin | once the initial sign-up crazyness is over, we should totally change that to "in the pudding" ;) |
| 11:46.48 | gevaerts | :) |
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| 11:47.13 | gevaerts | The current one is short enough that we could add it |
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| 12:00.20 | Freso | "in the pudding"? |
| 12:02.30 | gevaerts | Freso: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/the_proof_of_the_pudding_is_in_the_eating |
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| 12:06.45 | kblin | gevaerts: nah, I'm not an instant-gratification kind of person |
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| 12:07.49 | gevaerts | No instant pudding for you then? |
| 12:08.39 | kblin | not if I can avoid it :) |
| 12:09.01 | gevaerts | Maybe you're right :) |
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| 12:49.07 | stain | Freso: OK.. I'm just a mere mortal mentor, so that's why I wondered why I could see colleague #1s mentoring, but not colleague#2 on a different proposal |
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| 13:11.58 | ries | hey all, when I click 'POST COMMENT' a empty post is posted but I don't see a input box appearing where I can actually input a comment |
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| 13:13.18 | olly | ries: should be above the button |
| 13:13.28 | ries | let me try that... |
| 13:13.30 | olly | with placeholder text "Comment on this proposal" |
| 13:13.55 | olly | which does rather look like a heading now I come to think of it |
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| 13:14.30 | ries | Ooo wait, damn.... yes, you need to click that first, then the heading is the input box.. |
| 13:14.56 | ries | a 'are you sure you want to post a empty comment' would have been nice :D |
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| 13:18.01 | olly | i can't see any reason to allow an empty comment |
| 13:18.31 | olly | just disabling the button until there's a comment entered seems simpler |
| 13:19.28 | ries | olly: I agree with that aswell... it least it would steer me into the direction of a action before the button get activated, it allows me to click around and see what area is actually 'clickable' to see where I can input something |
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| 16:38.05 | Skas | Hello GSoC fellows, I understand the Student application deadline is passed :( , but is it still possible to still join? |
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| 16:38.57 | Skas | Didn't realize until it was too late |
| 16:39.01 | edunham | Skas: you can use gsoc ideas pages as a way to find projects to contribute to for fun all year round |
| 16:39.20 | edunham | but the deadline for getting paid for it this year is past |
| 16:39.37 | Skas | Ah edundham: Cool! I'm not looking to get paid :-) |
| 16:40.19 | edunham | Skas: irc protip, type the first couple letters of the nick and then hit the tab key. that'll spell it correctly for you |
| 16:41.09 | edunham | if you're looking for ways to get started in open source, https://openhatch.org/ is another convenient resource |
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| 16:41.46 | Skas_ | edunham: Sorry, and thanks for the help :) |
| 16:43.05 | edunham | np; we're all new at one point or another |
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| 16:47.10 | Skas_ | Have a lovely day, be back sometime soon :^) |
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| 16:50.49 | jojou | hello |
| 16:51.16 | jojou | who is here that is responsible for the gsoc platform? |
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| 16:52.05 | MatthewWilkes | jojou: If you need to talk to an admin then emailing is the best bet |
| 16:52.32 | jojou | MatthewWilkes, |
| 16:52.37 | jojou | this emai: gsoc-support@google.com ? |
| 16:53.01 | jojou | how much time they take to answer? |
| 16:53.04 | MatthewWilkes | Yes |
| 16:53.05 | MatthewWilkes | I don't know |
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| 16:53.19 | MatthewWilkes | If you don't need to talk to an admin, you can always try asking an open question |
| 16:53.37 | MatthewWilkes | but I don't know what the problem is |
| 16:53.40 | jojou | ok, i had already sent en email about 5 hours ago and they did not sent me an aswer yet |
| 16:53.58 | gevaerts | Five hours ago it was night for them |
| 16:54.03 | jojou | i had written my name wrongly in the google platform |
| 16:54.20 | jojou | that is, it is not equal to my id univeristy card |
| 16:55.21 | jojou | and i am not able to reedit my name in the gsoc platform :( |
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| 16:56.14 | Freso | !support | jojou |
| 16:56.14 | gsocbot | jojou: "support" is If your issues can't be solved here, feel free to contact gsoc-support@google.com. |
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| 16:56.25 | Freso | No one here can help you with that. |
| 16:56.58 | jojou | ok, thank u all for the help, i was thinkng that here smb could help me faster than via email |
| 16:57.05 | Freso | And 5 hours is nothing. Wait at least a day before panicking. |
| 16:57.14 | jojou | lol |
| 16:57.32 | jojou | i just wanted to solve my issue a bit faster |
| 16:57.58 | gevaerts | You can't usually get that sort of issue solved outside California business hours |
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| 17:00.55 | MatthewWilkes | Also, bear in mind that there are tens of thousands of people who are involved in this programme in one way or another, and a team of less than half a dozen organising it. They're amazingly efficient for their workload, but things won't be instant |
| 17:02.48 | Freso | ^ |
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| 17:40.53 | wasiq | MatthewWilkes, A team of less than half a dozen? Wow. Google employees never cease to impress me. |
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| 18:31.13 | Robert_S | yawns |
| 18:31.50 | ries_nicked | gices Robert_S a cup of coffee |
| 18:32.25 | Robert_S | Got my tea right here. |
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| 18:35.54 | ries | Robert_S: ahhh good, I didn't spot the cup of tea on your desk |
| 18:36.13 | Robert_S | ries: It's blocked behind the tissue box. |
| 18:36.31 | ries | Ahhh yes, there it is |
| 18:38.09 | markq42 | umm, u guys can see each other? |
| 18:39.01 | meflin | markq42, only because we have spy cams in Robert_S 's office |
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| 18:40.11 | markq42 | now he knows |
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| 18:40.29 | meflin | doesn't mater he will never find it |
| 18:40.53 | Robert_S | Oh, I know where it is. :) |
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| 18:41.14 | meflin | oh is that WHY it was block by a bag of top shelf tea? ;) |
| 18:41.40 | Robert_S | If it's top shelf tea, that's not my office. This tea is probably expensive, but definitely not top shelf. |
| 18:42.13 | meflin | upper half geeze lets not split hairs |
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| 19:10.54 | ries | waves at Robert_S |
| 19:11.02 | Robert_S | toodles. |
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| 19:20.58 | mbr0wn | TitW4eettus. |
| 19:21.03 | mbr0wn | whoops |
| 19:24.42 | Freso | Oh. So, "top shelf" = expensive? |
| 19:24.57 | meflin | usualy yes |
| 19:25.00 | Robert_S | normally used in reference to alcohol at bars. |
| 19:25.26 | meflin | my tea shop keeps the most premium grade on the top shelf |
| 19:26.16 | meflin | a pot large pot of tea costs $4 and a "top shelf" there words costs $5 |
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| 19:34.49 | terri | I've also seen "top shelf" in reference to magazines and comics, where it means something different. |
| 19:34.58 | terri | ("top shelf" there means "out of reach of children") |
| 19:35.21 | gevaerts | That's the shelf with the most dust |
| 19:38.39 | meflin | children do not deserve top shelf tea until passing gsoc :) |
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| 19:46.18 | M-aviraldg | You should come down here. Top shelf tea is 10c :) |
| 19:46.32 | M-aviraldg | Unless it's from one of those top notch places :P |
| 19:47.04 | meflin | well I have 30-60 teas on hand so I doubt I will be visiting for a cuppa :) |
| 19:47.27 | Freso | Oh, I think I'm glad that's not only me. |
| 19:48.32 | meflin | for some reason gsoc tends to atract tea/coffee/hot chocolate snobs |
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| 19:51.00 | meflin | probably the caffeine , someone should do a study |
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| 20:00.56 | PulkoMandy | the caffeine doesn't explain hot chocolate |
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| 20:01.57 | PulkoMandy | http://www.commitstrip.com/en/2016/03/25/what-keeps-coders-going/?setLocale=1 ? |
| 20:01.58 | meflin | it has some |
| 20:03.05 | PulkoMandy | I didn't know that. Now I do :) |
| 20:03.38 | Robert_S | Also, a LOT of sugar usually. |
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| 20:04.14 | meflin | but I can't throw it out of the list since I am a hot chocolate snob :) |
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| 20:12.12 | valorie | theine though |
| 20:12.21 | valorie | is in hot choc |
| 20:12.33 | valorie | prefers coldbrew coffee |
| 20:13.43 | Manishearth | Robert_S: is it okay to ask a student if they're fine working on a slightly different project after they have submitted a proposal? |
| 20:15.06 | Manishearth | We have a proposal from a really good candidate who has been involved with our project for a while now. However, the proposal is something which might not work as-is. There are related parts of the codebase that need work which could form a good project, but no draft was submitted so we didn't get a chance to discuss this before the deadline. |
| 20:15.35 | Robert_S | Manishearth: That's not really for me to give a concrete answer to, but you should be evaluating the students based on the submitted final PDFs. Some projects do change as the summer progresses and things are discovered. |
| 20:16.14 | Robert_S | Manishearth: I don't want to give an official answer, as policy is not my job. It's not cut and dry, but as you described it, it sounds like the submitted proposal is not a good one for your project. |
| 20:16.17 | Manishearth | Robert_S: so I'm pretty sure that the project as proposed will not be possible to do during the summer, since it depends on a component which is scheduled to be finished during the summer itself |
| 20:16.26 | Manishearth | however the student might not have known that |
| 20:18.26 | PulkoMandy | they should have asked while writing their proposals |
| 20:18.51 | PulkoMandy | I would be careful and worry about wether the student can communicate well with the team to make the right decisions |
| 20:19.07 | PulkoMandy | or if he will be uncontrollable and write a lot of code maybe you can't use or something |
| 20:19.31 | Robert_S | My personal (non-official) opinion is that this is probably not the project you want to accept, as it isn't actually reasonable to be completed in the timeframe. (Based on what you've said.) |
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| 20:31.29 | Manishearth | Robert_S: thanks |
| 20:31.50 | Manishearth | PulkoMandy: we know for a fact that the student communicates well, because they've done a ton of good work for the project before |
| 20:32.05 | Robert_S | Manishearth: For a second opinion, you could ask gsoc-support. |
| 20:32.12 | Manishearth | yeah, thinking of doing that |
| 20:32.14 | Robert_S | That would actually be a first official opinion. |
| 20:32.28 | Manishearth | mostly wanted a feel of it to figure out how to proceed |
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