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| 00:31.37 | gsoc501 | hello, im new to this, so is ok if anyone can get me started? |
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| 01:57.29 | Unknown34355 | hello, i'm kinda new here, can anybody get me started |
| 02:02.15 | gsoc501 | hello |
| 02:02.29 | gsoc501 | is anybody there |
| 02:07.31 | kovak | gsoc 2015 i already in progress, there is no 'getting started' anymore |
| 02:07.50 | kovak | you should keep an eye out for when the application process for 2016 begins |
| 02:09.18 | olly | no need to wait, you can get involved now and prepare for 2016 |
| 02:09.45 | olly | !studentguide | gsoc501 Unknown34355 |
| 02:09.59 | olly | !studentguide | gsoc501 |
| 02:09.59 | gsocbot | gsoc501: "studentguide" is http://en.flossmanuals.net/GSoCStudentGuide/ |
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| 13:38.59 | |Kev| | Finding out one of your mentors is having a problem with their student by reading their mentor report when they've never mentioned it to me. Mood: Very displeased. |
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| 13:47.40 | downey | ugh |
| 13:48.30 | |Kev| | It's not as if we don't have weekly org-wide discussions. |
| 13:48.54 | |Kev| | Wouldn't be appropriate to say "I have issues" in front of the students, but I'm there afterwards for that reason. |
| 13:48.57 | |Kev| | Very very displeased. |
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| 13:51.58 | abiogenesis | |Kev|, how can you read mentor's report? |
| 13:53.59 | |Kev| | By clicking it in melange. |
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| 13:54.52 | abiogenesis | |Kev|, in what section? "My dashboard"? |
| 13:55.12 | |Kev| | My Dashboard/Mentor evaluations. |
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| 13:56.07 | abiogenesis | No such item for me |
| 13:56.25 | dkreuter | |Kev|, are you a project administrator? |
| 13:56.26 | |Kev| | This may be too obvious, but: |
| 13:56.31 | |Kev| | You're an org admin, right? |
| 13:56.45 | dkreuter | *organization |
| 13:56.46 | |Kev| | dkreuter: Org admin, yes. |
| 13:56.59 | abiogenesis | No, that's why I asked. I thought students may read their mentor evaluations :) |
| 13:57.03 | |Kev| | No. |
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| 14:28.41 | downey | |Kev|: Have you considered asking the mentors to submit some type of recurring private feedback each week? |
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| 14:29.18 | |Kev| | downey: I have certainly considered that now, yes. It hadn't occurred to me that it'd be needed. |
| 14:29.54 | downey | |Kev|: it's a fine line ... we tried it, but some think it's a bit annoying |
| 14:30.47 | |Kev| | It seems annoying. But I bet it's not half as annoying as I am feeling annoyed right now about the mentor in question! |
| 14:31.11 | downey | right |
| 14:31.22 | downey | these days we're only having our students do them |
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| 14:31.46 | |Kev| | We have the students do a (public) meeting each week, following a blog report. |
| 14:31.59 | |Kev| | With the invite to please poke me afterwards with anything they didn't want to discuss in public. |
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| 14:34.26 | downey | we saw the same thing as we did with mentors ... sometimes people aren't too willing to criticize in that situation |
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| 14:41.28 | |Kev| | This is the first year I've had this problem, but it's certainly causing me to rethink how we're doing some things. |
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| 14:43.59 | carandraug | can a mentor find out if a student has submitted a midterm evaluation? We have this student that has simply stopped replying to emails, and coming to the weekly meetings. We are failing the student but I'm wondering if he will fill his own midterm evaluation. |
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| 14:44.22 | neverpan1c | org admins certainly can see that |
| 14:44.23 | |Kev| | Yes. |
| 14:44.32 | |Kev| | They can ask their admin, who can see it. |
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| 14:44.45 | carandraug | cool. I will ask the admin. Thank you |
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| 14:44.55 | |Kev| | Although Melange has been mailing out reminders to students if they're not done yet, and I believe CCing the mentors. |
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| 14:45.08 | carandraug | question, is this normal? We had students in the last 3 years and this is the first time it happened. |
| 14:45.15 | |Kev| | No, my bad, just CCing the admins. |
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| 14:45.25 | |Kev| | Normal? No, but it happens. |
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| 14:46.20 | carandraug | ok. It's just weird. He has done 0 work. Because of his exams, we also didn't expect much work for the first month, but after this month, which I think is also teh time it takes until the first initial payment, he just cut all communication |
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| 14:47.13 | carandraug | in previous years we requested a phone number for emergency contant. It was only used once. This year we did not ask for one... |
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| 14:47.36 | |Kev| | $500 is a lot of money for just filling out a form. Especially if you don't require much in the way of teasers? (Don't know if you do or not) |
| 14:47.41 | Abhishek__ | What is meant by an organization missing an evaluation twice? |
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| 14:48.56 | davidbau | question on midterm evaluations - if a student has multiple mentors in the system, do they all need to submit evaluations, or is one evaluation per student enough? |
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| 14:49.27 | |Kev| | davidbau: I thought you only had one mentor in the system? I missed how to add multiple mentors, at least. |
| 14:49.31 | davidbau | (I'm asking because we're still getting email about missing evaluations even though we have submitted one for each student.) |
| 14:49.54 | davidbau | yes, i think there's a way to add co-mentors |
| 14:50.06 | davidbau | (at least that's what I think we've done.) |
| 14:50.17 | carandraug | |Kev|: we do not. But what we need most in the project (octave) is mathematicians which tend to have very little programming experience. This is just normal even among our frequent contributors |
| 14:50.23 | |Kev| | davidbau: What does the dashboard say? |
| 14:50.38 | Abhishek__ | what is meant by an organization missing 2 or more evaluation as carols wrote in the email? |
| 14:51.11 | |Kev| | carandraug: You're not seeking my advice, but I think it's a good idea for all orgs to require teasers. Not necessarily bugfixes, but some practical task that indicates the odds of a student succeeding in the project over the summer. |
| 14:51.30 | carandraug | it's almost given that we will spend teh first month fighting with the student and VCS, and basic software design issues. |
| 14:51.32 | |Kev| | Abhishek__: Not submitting two of their evaluations. I'm not sure what's not clear about it. |
| 14:51.43 | |Kev| | carandraug: Isn't that what the community period is for? |
| 14:52.12 | carandraug | |Kev|: oh. We do require a bit yeah. Just not nothing big. I saw the requirements for Boost for example, which was a few thousands of code |
| 14:52.33 | |Kev| | Grief. We don't do anything like that much :) |
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| 14:52.46 | |Kev| | Around a hundred-line patch at most, generally. |
| 14:52.58 | downey | carandraug: carols would probably have that |
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| 14:53.22 | carandraug | |Kev|: we do require the submissions to be sound mathematically though. That's what has the most weight on the selection. |
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| 14:55.13 | |Kev| | carandraug: Then ignore me :) |
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| 15:59.50 | rodrigods | hi all :) I'm filling a form about my professional experience and is required to put contact address (country, street, region...) and a peson to be contacted regarding my summer of code experience |
| 16:00.04 | rodrigods | does anyone know what information should I use there? |
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| 16:06.58 | neverpanic | rodrigods: talk to your mentor |
| 16:07.00 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 16:07.42 | rodrigods | neverpanic, thx, so I should fill out with the organization, not Google, right? |
| 16:07.58 | mannol | Hello. I have accidentally my gmail account some time ago and now I cannot log in to melange to submit an evaluation for my student, nor can the admin of our organization move mentorship to my new account. What options do I have? |
| 16:08.10 | carols | mannol: file a bug with the melange team |
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| 16:08.55 | neverpanic | rodrigods: well, Google doesn't have a lot of information on your GSoC experience; if they want technical details about your work (which seems likely in a form on your professional experience) your mentor would be the best point of contact |
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| 16:09.13 | rodrigods | neverpanic, makes sense, thx! |
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| 16:12.08 | |Kev| | rodrigods: You should (must) ask your mentor first, though. Don't just list them. |
| 16:13.17 | rodrigods | thx |Kev|, I was a student for XSF, btw (coindidence :) ) |
| 16:13.37 | mannol | welp, looks like a bug has already been filed, thanks carols |
| 16:13.41 | carols | yw |
| 16:14.01 | |Kev| | rodrigods: Ah, it's you. Hi :) |
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| 16:15.08 | rodrigods | |Kev|, hi! not working directly with XMPP directly anymore, but still in the open source world :) |
| 16:17.09 | |Kev| | Great to hear :) |
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| 18:16.20 | downey | Any GSoC people here going to OSCON? |
| 18:16.45 | carols | raises hand |
| 18:16.50 | carols | and iâm hosting a gsoc bof! |
| 18:16.57 | carols | iâd love to see folks there if theyâre around |
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| 18:20.12 | downey | i'm going and 2 of our people got O'Reilly diversity scholarships to attend which I recommend to anyone interested http://www.oreilly.com/conferences/diversity-application.csp |
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| 18:22.51 | downey | carols: my wife wants to know if there will be GSoCk giveaways at OSCON again this year |
| 18:23.01 | downey | she is hoping there will not be :-P |
| 18:23.09 | carols | downey: no, we gave the rest of those all out at the reunion last year :-) |
| 18:23.15 | carols | sheâll be happy to hear that, iâm sure |
| 18:23.21 | downey | happy wife = happy life |
| 18:24.36 | carols | HOWEVER the socks were popular enough that we may get a new production of some at some point :-) |
| 18:24.39 | carols | but not in time for OSCON |
| 18:25.17 | downey | It'll be OK; I'm getting PDX Carpet socks instead. http://www.madeinoregon.com/images/Z/portland-airport-carpet--23674-650z.jpg |
| 18:25.27 | carols | nice. |
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| 20:39.17 | carols | !next |
| 20:39.18 | gsocbot | carols: "next" is Midterm evaluations being on 26 June at 19:00 UTC and end on July 3 at 19:00 UTC |
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| 21:32.11 | carols | serves some afternoon tea and coffee |
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| 21:58.14 | olly | !learn next as Midterm evaluations begin on 26 June at 19:00 UTC and end on July 3 at 19:00 UTC |
| 21:58.15 | gsocbot | olly: "next" is (#1) Midterm evaluations being on 26 June at 19:00 UTC and end on July 3 at 19:00 UTC, or (#2) Midterm evaluations begin on 26 June at 19:00 UTC and end on July 3 at 19:00 UTC |
| 21:58.21 | olly | !foget next 1 |
| 21:58.26 | olly | !forget next 1 |
| 21:58.26 | gsocbot | olly: "next" is Midterm evaluations begin on 26 June at 19:00 UTC and end on July 3 at 19:00 UTC |
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