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| 00:07.04 | gsocc | What is the role of a mentoring organisation? |
| 00:08.05 | umccullough | they provide the projects for students to work on |
| 00:08.18 | umccullough | and they provide mentors for the students to work with |
| 00:08.31 | gsocc | In that case what do the organisations do? |
| 00:08.44 | gsocc | Has tge ideas page been put up? |
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| 05:16.47 | bear | is there a secret handshake required to get the Edit Profile page to allow me to submit the form? |
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| 05:35.53 | stqism | bear: Don't worry, it submit. |
| 05:36.19 | bear | stqism - oh? ok - thanks |
| 05:36.40 | stqism | It confused me too at first. |
| 05:41.24 | bear | I wonder why it won't let me use "xsf" for Organization ID |
| 05:41.56 | bear | ah - I used XSF |
| 05:42.00 | bear | it wants lowercase |
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| 08:09.46 | Hello | Hello. I am Hello. Anyone alive? :P |
| 08:10.08 | Hello | I want to do gsoc. How do I do? |
| 08:10.26 | Hello | Okay. Bye! |
| 08:10.28 | stqism | As a student? |
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| 08:10.46 | Hello | stqism: YEah! |
| 08:11.48 | stqism | Well, the way it works is that you apply during the period, after that you look for organizations you like and try to get chosen by them. If they do pick you, you're part of gsoc. |
| 08:12.50 | Hello | stqism: Okay. Thank you. |
| 08:13.25 | stqism | You'll be able to apply in about a month |
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| 09:13.46 | morpheus07 | Hi guys, I am a python developer. I would like to contribute to an organization working on a project based on python. Can someone tell me where I can find the mentors ? |
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| 09:16.18 | stqism | morpheus07: You'll have to wait till the list of mentor organizations is done |
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| 09:57.36 | narendraj9 | j/msg sam73 http://elinux.org/BeagleBoard/GSoC/Ideas |
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| 11:19.19 | Hello | Hello. I am interested in Web based Projects. Can anyone help me which organisation i must look for? |
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| 12:14.28 | t4 | hey anyone here |
| 12:15.00 | t4 | hi |
| 12:15.03 | VarunAgw | t4: Hi |
| 12:15.11 | sjbalaji | Hello |
| 12:15.11 | t4 | need help |
| 12:15.30 | t4 | for the project in gosc 2014 |
| 12:15.36 | VarunAgw | Don't ask to ask. Just ask. :) |
| 12:16.55 | t4 | basically i am 1st year student and want to participate in gosc but dont know how to make apps |
| 12:17.20 | t4 | means i can code but dont know how to convert code to an app |
| 12:17.45 | t4 | so any suggestions |
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| 12:18.46 | tomreyn | "convert code into an app"? "app" is a very ambiguous term, even more these years than in the past decades |
| 12:18.47 | t4 | so any help from where i can start |
| 12:19.14 | t4 | k applications |
| 12:19.18 | VarunAgw | First of all, it is GSOC not GOSC. And what type of apps you are talking...web apps, mobile apps, PC apps |
| 12:19.52 | t4 | pc to pc connectivity |
| 12:20.11 | t4 | just like pingmsgr |
| 12:21.02 | garciarg | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.22 | VarunAgw | Is there some organisation that have similar projects? See their documentation. Maybe that can help you. |
| 12:21.31 | t4 | but cant see their source code |
| 12:22.12 | tomreyn | google web search does not seem to know an application called "pingmsgr" |
| 12:22.27 | VarunAgw | Their source is world readable. Tha's why they are open called source organisation |
| 12:22.35 | t4 | ohh sorry |
| 12:22.41 | t4 | its ipmessenger |
| 12:23.47 | t4 | but cant find them |
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| 12:24.58 | tomreyn | http://ipmsg.org/ then? |
| 12:25.15 | VarunAgw | t4: You should read https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2014/help_page to more about the GSoC |
| 12:25.40 | t4 | yes |
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| 12:28.44 | t4 | but still cant find last year source code;s |
| 12:28.50 | t4 | *code's |
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| 12:29.03 | tomreyn | so that's a cross platform LAN messaging application, written in C++. C++ source code is "converted" into an executable application by means of a compiler (and linker). |
| 12:29.19 | t4 | ya |
| 12:29.39 | t4 | do you know how to do it |
| 12:29.41 | tomreyn | maybe you should rather start with something more simple, C++ is a difficult language to start with |
| 12:30.00 | t4 | i know c++ |
| 12:30.19 | t4 | and its the language i am familiar with |
| 12:30.35 | tomreyn | then you're the first person i ran into who knows C++ but does not know how to use a compiler |
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| 12:31.00 | tomreyn | normally people learn it the other way around |
| 12:31.20 | t4 | i use compilers to execute my codes dont know more than that |
| 12:33.20 | t4 | so can you help help me with that |
| 12:33.59 | tomreyn | with what exactly? |
| 12:34.28 | t4 | can you advice me with some materials to read |
| 12:35.13 | tomreyn | i assume how to compile source code is a bit off topic for this channel... |
| 12:35.16 | tomreyn | on POSIX platforms you can use gcc /gpp to compile it (though this code is so old it may be difficult to get to compile cleanly with current versions). and on windows you'd use visual c++ (there is a SLN file embedded in the source code) |
| 12:35.36 | VarunAgw | You can search for preview year organisation that use C++. http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2013 |
| 12:35.48 | VarunAgw | You can then visit their site, read the documentation |
| 12:35.50 | tomreyn | so maybe it's better you try with a more modern, still maintained application |
| 12:36.12 | t4 | k yhanks |
| 12:36.14 | VarunAgw | Many will have instructions regarding compiling |
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| 14:51.11 | mg | Hi everybody. I submitted an organization -- is there a way for me to give other team members access to it? |
| 14:51.11 | osdc_bot | organization lost a level. (Karma: -1) |
| 14:51.41 | mg | just so they can view the answers and maybe suggest better ones |
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| 14:53.08 | kblin | the heck? |
| 14:53.24 | kblin | tststs |
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| 14:54.13 | kblin | ok, who's bot is that? |
| 14:54.22 | kblin | whose? |
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| 14:54.36 | kblin | whatever, can the owner of the bot please contact me? |
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| 14:55.54 | stqism | kblin: I don't know, but I do know that organization lost a level, whatever that means. |
| 14:56.34 | mg | yeah, I was confused by that as well :) |
| 14:58.22 | kblin | that's a stupid karma counter where you can go "nick++" or "nick--" to give or take karma from a person |
| 14:58.58 | mg | okay |
| 14:59.12 | stqism | kblin++ //was helpful |
| 14:59.12 | kblin | like "likes" from a pre-facebook age |
| 14:59.23 | stqism | Why not +1? |
| 15:00.03 | kblin | in any case, the bot violates two channel policies.. :) |
| 15:00.27 | kblin | one, it's got an annoying module loaded that makes the bot talk without being talked to |
| 15:01.00 | stqism | Lemmie guess, Markov chain? |
| 15:01.24 | kblin | and second, there's no contact information in the bot's /whois info that'd allow me to talk to the owner about point one |
| 15:01.34 | kblin | no, I just mean the karma counter |
| 15:02.02 | stqism | Gotcha, a Markov chain gets so annoying. |
| 15:02.21 | Niharika | Hi everybody. I submitted an organization -- is there a way for me to give other team members access to it? ----Just testing. |
| 15:02.35 | kblin | the bot is muted now |
| 15:02.46 | kblin | it probably still counts karma, though |
| 15:02.56 | Niharika | It doesn´t say which organization anyhow. |
| 15:03.30 | VarunAgw | What the heck! The bot is funny. Lets forget this and move on |
| 15:03.37 | mg | cool that you got the bot silenced -- does anybody know the answer to my question? :) |
| 15:03.58 | mg | I just submitted a "zerovm" organization and would like to let other team members see and perhaps even manage it |
| 15:04.30 | kblin | mg: you can add backup admins, but iirc they can't access the application |
| 15:04.59 | VarunAgw | Try contacting program administration. |
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| 15:05.02 | mg | kblin: okay, thanks -- there is one backup admin since I had to enter one when I started the application |
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| 15:05.38 | mg | VarunAgw: okay |
| 15:06.03 | kblin | mg: yeah, unfortunately at this point it doesn't mean much apart from "they seem to have a second person to care about administering the org" |
| 15:06.32 | kblin | you could ask the #melange folks |
| 15:06.51 | kblin | however, my workaround for this is to just keep all the answers in our project's wiki |
| 15:07.12 | mg | yeah, we used an Etherpad for it... :) |
| 15:07.32 | mg | I just figured it was easier to update things directly in Melange now after the answers were submitted |
| 15:07.40 | mg | oh well, thanks for your help! |
| 15:07.51 | mg | and good luck keeping the bot under control :) |
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| 15:08.02 | stqism | mg: Zerovm looks neat, though I can't tell what separates it from a jail :P |
| 15:08.29 | mg | stqism: ah, I'm glad you ask :-p Should we discuss it in #zerovm? |
| 15:08.57 | stqism | Can't say I like spamming gsoc, so sure! |
| 15:09.13 | kblin | mg: I agree, and I'm sure patches are welcome :) |
| 15:09.58 | kblin | mg: also, I haven't really tried this year |
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| 15:16.10 | konro | I want to participate in Gsoc this year and would hopefuly be my first year . I wish someone can point me to organisations with good c programming projects. |
| 15:17.01 | konro | and even neworking projects |
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| 15:18.41 | VaticanCameos | konro: The list for 2014 is not out yet. But you might want to look at the 2013 list for organizations like RouteFlow. |
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| 15:22.20 | konro | VaticanCameos: Thanks i would check on that |
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| 15:23.31 | VarunAgw | konro: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2013 http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/list/public/google/gsoc2012 :) |
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| 16:32.13 | stqism | I want to make melange actually do something when you submit some info, but I can't seem to get used to https://code.google.com/p/soc/source/browse/ :( |
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| 16:39.24 | tierra | stqism: it's built on Google App Engine, so docs there would walk you through it: https://developers.google.com/appengine/docs/python/gettingstartedpython27/introduction |
| 16:40.54 | stqism | tierra: Eh, I'll figure it out somehow |
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| 17:21.59 | Niharika | waves Goodnight. |
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| 17:23.11 | qgil | Hi, I was org admin in GSoC 2013, should I create a new profile for GSoC 2014 or can I recycle the one from last year? https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/profile/register/org_member/google/gsoc2014 |
| 17:23.35 | qgil | andre__, check here for answers :) ^^^^ |
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| 17:25.35 | qgil | Ah: "Please note that the application process has changed a bit from previous years: to apply you must now create your individual profile and then an organization profile before submitting your application. " |
| 17:25.58 | qgil | andre__, ^^^^ new profile |
| 17:26.34 | andre__ | Heh, https://www.google-melange.com/ has some problems to load here. Interesting - maybe it's just me. |
| 17:27.02 | VaticanCameos | Lots of Indians on this channel. Nice to see. |
| 17:28.31 | stqism | VaticanCameos: How do you make that assumption? |
| 17:28.39 | umccullough | probably based on the names |
| 17:28.45 | VaticanCameos | stqism: The names. |
| 17:28.48 | VaticanCameos | What umccullough said. |
| 17:28.58 | stqism | Gotcha |
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| 17:29.14 | umccullough | i think there's usually a large number of Indian student proposals every year, at least it seems so |
| 17:29.23 | stqism | Can't say I'm capable of figuring out a ethnicity from an alias |
| 17:29.30 | stqism | though I do know that to be true |
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| 17:31.18 | umccullough | a more accurate method of detection would probably be to run the IP addresses through geolocation ;) |
| 17:31.39 | VaticanCameos | You guys got serious. o.O |
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| 17:31.53 | kblin | hey carols |
| 17:32.00 | carols | hi kblin |
| 17:32.12 | VaticanCameos | The reason I can figure out this particular ethnicity from an alias is that I'm Indian myself. |
| 17:32.14 | kblin | umccullough: I dislike the geo-ip approach, especially on websites |
| 17:32.23 | stqism | No, no, a IP does not mean a location, umccullough. That can me faked easily |
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| 17:32.39 | stqism | Throw in a vpn, Tor, a hostname mask? |
| 17:32.46 | umccullough | stqism, it's still more accurate than using their nick |
| 17:32.56 | kblin | especially when the website then decides to ignore my language settings |
| 17:33.10 | umccullough | i will often use someone's IP on IRC to determine their approximate geolocation - it helps me understand what their native language is likely to be when trying to communicate |
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| 17:33.27 | umccullough | it's not done as any sort of privacy violation, etc. but as an info tool |
| 17:33.31 | stqism | kblin: Actually, that's a good test. Does going to https://tox.im automatically go to a language other than english? |
| 17:34.05 | VaticanCameos | umccullough: What if they're in a tunnel? |
| 17:34.12 | stqism | umccullough: This reminds me of a fun trick, using IP blocks and services to figure out an IP behind a cloak |
| 17:34.13 | umccullough | then i don't get useful information? |
| 17:34.22 | kblin | stqism: nope |
| 17:34.29 | VaticanCameos | umccullough: Damn straight. |
| 17:34.35 | umccullough | VaticanCameos, more often than not, most people don't hide their IPs... and that's fine |
| 17:34.37 | stqism | Damn, looks like I have to annoy someone |
| 17:34.37 | umccullough | i certainly don't |
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| 17:35.00 | kblin | stqism: at least not for me, as I've got my language settings set to en |
| 17:35.33 | stqism | kblin: That makes sense, language detection is done server side, but sometimes doesn't work. |
| 17:35.39 | umccullough | in any case, in the world of FOSS, someone visiting our channel that doesn't speak good english, can occasionally be pointed to an individual who speaks their native tongue to assist them |
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| 17:36.20 | kblin | stqism: so if I switch my preferred language settings to a different language, it does display that language... |
| 17:36.51 | VarunAgw | All the people I know who use internet atleast knows basic english |
| 17:36.58 | stqism | kblin: That's exactly what I wanted to hear :P |
| 17:36.59 | kblin | though German seems to break the layout at a window size where layout in English is still fine |
| 17:37.32 | stqism | Odd, very odd |
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| 17:37.46 | kblin | nah, German just uses longer words |
| 17:38.15 | kblin | so... why is that messenger client called like the python testing tool? |
| 17:39.05 | kblin | hm, let us take that to #tox, I guess :) |
| 17:39.12 | stqism | kblin: Pssssssh, 4th result down :P |
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| 18:14.41 | stqism | carols: Mind if I get your feedback on something? |
| 18:14.46 | carols | stqism: sure |
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| 18:23.00 | ash|2 | Hello everyone - is there any hope that @openstack will participate this year? |
| 18:23.19 | carols | ash|2: have they applied? |
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| 18:23.49 | ash|2 | carols: if i'm not mistaken - not yet |
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| 18:24.15 | carols | ash|2: not applying significantly reduces their possibility of being accepted . in fact, it reduces it to 0. |
| 18:24.29 | kblin | :-) |
| 18:25.03 | carols | :-) |
| 18:25.27 | carols | i will under no circumstances accept an organization that hasn't applied. |
| 18:26.05 | ash|2 | carols: well - I understand. I'm a student, I found myself a mentor, we discussed the project - but in @openstack there is no person to take administrative role to apply |
| 18:26.25 | carols | ash|2: well, they should decide if they even want to participate if there's no one who wants to administer it... |
| 18:26.37 | carols | if they don't want to participate i'm absolutely not going to force them |
| 18:26.51 | kblin | have they participated before? |
| 18:26.56 | ash|2 | carols: but I can :-) |
| 18:27.02 | carols | ash|2: you can what? |
| 18:27.09 | ash|2 | kblin: No |
| 18:27.26 | ash|2 | carols: try to force them.. I mean just remind them |
| 18:27.33 | carols | ash|2: that's between you and them |
| 18:27.39 | kblin | then they're a new org, and won't get too many slots, usually, so administration isn't too much work :) |
| 18:27.39 | carols | and has nothing to do with me and gsoc :-) |
| 18:28.22 | ash|2 | carols: kblin: well thank you for information |
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| 18:34.10 | carols | ash|2: yw |
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| 18:59.59 | bear | is there anyway to see our org's questionnaire from prior years? |
| 19:00.17 | carols | bear: a good question for the melange developers. |
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| 19:00.35 | bear | is there a better place for me to ask? |
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| 19:00.55 | carols | #melange or their mailing list |
| 19:01.02 | bear | thanks |
| 19:01.10 | carols | yw |
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| 20:48.31 | carols | serves some tea and coffee |
| 20:49.19 | tomreyn | with cookies, i assume? |
| 20:49.33 | tomreyn | thanks either way ;) |
| 20:49.44 | carols | tomreyn: did you bring some? :-) |
| 20:50.20 | tomreyn | i expected those to be available at google |
| 20:50.45 | gevaerts | tomreyn: Set-Cookie: NID=67=c3rC-XdDWk9v-DafUXCymvMDRvHhr8o0-Ph_ThqMYW7hhm7YKeRBeSIdvF4F6V8yhqjhpchiEhPdHOt1LAVIJ_Z7Wlim0UKHvqY3GSa8_OLRfPMmVwFHyrT1w8Ot-56r; expires=Fri, 08-Aug-2014 20:50:33 GMT; path=/; domain=.google.be; HttpOnly |
| 20:50.49 | gevaerts | There you go! |
| 20:50.51 | tomreyn | but i will bring some peanut butter |
| 20:50.59 | tomreyn | thanks so much! |
| 20:50.59 | Arthur_D | just fixed himself hot chocolate instead |
| 20:53.14 | carols | mmm hot chocolate |
| 20:55.08 | Arthur_D | it's the only way to escape winter depression |
| 20:55.23 | carols | or at least to make it tolerable |
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| 22:01.29 | carols | quiet again |
| 22:01.39 | carols | i wonder if that means everyone's working on org apps :-) |
| 22:01.56 | umccullough | well, here on the west coast, it means food coma from lunch |
| 22:02.19 | carols | umccullough: i'm on the west coast and I'm just having afternoon tea ...: -0 |
| 22:02.20 | carols | :-) |
| 22:02.29 | umccullough | is having food coma |
| 22:02.30 | downey | it's always time for tea |
| 22:02.51 | umccullough | and i'm again drinking coffee with whisky in it ;) |
| 22:03.05 | carols | that's a bit more than i can do at 2pm on a thursday :-) |
| 22:03.11 | umccullough | heh |
| 22:03.17 | umccullough | works from home |
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| 22:08.23 | carols | kblin: i had an idea. |
| 22:08.30 | carols | i'd like to run it by you, if you're around. |
| 22:13.09 | carols | alright then |
| 22:13.14 | carols | we'll talk about it some other time :-) |
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