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10:13.47gsocbotrajatkapoor: "next" is May 24 at 07.00 UTC: All mentors must be signed up and all student proposals matched with a mentor
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11:55.20kaosHi, is it ok to discuss our slot situation with the students? (that is, we have more proposals than slots)
11:56.21gevaertskaos: you're allowed to tell them how many slots you have if you like, and as far as I know you're allowed to tell them how many proposals you got. You're *not* allowed to tell them if they're selected though
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11:56.46kaosAh, thank you!
11:56.56kaosthat was my real question :)
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21:21.10olly_neverpanic: it's !anyone
21:21.28neverpanicolly_: oh, thanks.
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22:12.09cravip!help
22:12.09gsocbotcravip: (help [<plugin>] [<command>]) -- This command gives a useful description of what <command> does. <plugin> is only necessary if the command is in more than one plugin.
22:12.37cravip!help next
22:12.37gsocbotcravip: (next [<redirect>]) -- trigger a query for the next event
22:12.47cravip!help anyone
22:12.47gsocbotcravip: Error: There is no command "anyone".
22:13.04meflintalk to the bot in /msg
22:14.17cravipmeflin: was just checking 1 command
22:15.20cravip:)
22:15.42meflinso you need me to repeat myself?
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22:50.19fewcha!anyone
22:50.19gsocbotfewcha: "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization directly. You can find an org's contact information via the org list at http://goo.gl/yxeB0
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23:20.39gatsbyhi guys ! my mentor asked me to take a break on the work that I was doing. I believe that I was doing well and did whatever he asked me to do. but his aksing me to take a break means I won't be selected for gsoc ?
23:21.52neverpanicgatsby: no
23:24.16gatsbyneverpanic, I am very much stressed out now because I believe if he wanted me to continue work on his project , may be he wouldn't have askede me to take a break , would he ? I ask this here beacuse asking him directly did not seem right, please help me
23:24.59neverpanicmaybe he only told you because he wanted to select you, but you shouldn't start before the coding period.
23:25.10neverpanicyou could ask him, but he's not supposed to tell you
23:26.13gatsbyokay but is it necessary not to start before the coding period ? i mean is it discouraged by mentors ?
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23:29.34gatsbyneverpanic, please help me with this query , I'm confused about this
23:30.32neverpanicIt is not necessary – mentors might ask you to show that you're up to the task, e.g. by handing in patches, but you're not required to start before the coding period
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23:30.50neverpanicif he told you to take a break, just reply and ask why.
23:31.12neverpanicor, just take a break and wait
23:32.58__gatsby__neverpanic, okay thanks , i'd rather wait. Anything else you might suggest that I can do now to increase my chances of getting selectd ?
23:33.28neverpanicThe decision probably have been made by now
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23:35.50gatsbyokay , what does the thing on the timeline mean : Student Choice Acceptance deadline ?
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23:38.24gatsbyneverpanic, please clear some of my doubts here , i really need help
23:38.54neverpanicgatsby: that's the date by which orgs need to have chosen which students to accept
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23:42.13gatsbyneverpanic, any way by which I can know how many slots alloted to any organisation ?
23:42.24gevaertsYou can ask them
23:42.32gevaertsAnd then they might tell you
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23:42.35gevaertsOr they might not
23:45.03gatsbygevaerts, if students complete the majority of the project even before the results are anounced would they be selected ?
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23:45.29gevaertsAlso, about your "take a break" thing, *why* don't you want to ask? If you don't communicate properly, things will start going wrong, and bad communication is one of the top problems in gsoc
23:46.52gatsbygevaerts, beacuse i think asking my mentor would be inappropriate
23:47.46gevaertsIf you have doubts, *not* asking would be inappropriate
23:47.46gatsbygevaerts, I would be grateful if you could answer my previous query :)
23:48.06gevaertsI can't tell you how specific organisations select students
23:48.49gatsbybut in general if a student completes about 50% of the project would most organisations select him/her ?
23:49.49gevaertsThat will depend on many things, I'd say
23:50.08gevaertsSo I don't know
23:50.25gatsbygevaerts, many things like ?
23:51.29gevaertsnotices that gatsby isn't afraid to ask questions *here* :)
23:52.04gevaertsSo why are you afraid to talk to your organisation? That attitude can really set you up for failure
23:52.26gatsbygevaerts, I'm sorry but i guess irc is the place to solve all the queries
23:52.39ojwbgatsby: i'd also recommend talking to your mentor
23:52.49ojwbhere you can only get general answers
23:53.46ojwbhmm, so you've completed 50% of the project already?  doesn't that suggest it was much too small?
23:54.13gevaertsIf you have 50% done now, you should be discussing with your mentor what you'll be doing during gsoc.
23:54.52gatsbyojwb, no I haven't completed the project , it was a general query regarding gsoc
23:55.06gatsbyits just that I'm new to all of this]
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23:55.40ojwbok, well in general making a start on the project is good - it gives the mentors a good feel for your capabilities and what you're like to work with
23:55.59ojwbhard to say why you've been asked to take a break
23:56.25gevaertsThere is of course also the issue that if you're 50% done, that probably means you only need to do the other 90% now :)
23:56.44ojwbthey might be concerned you're working too hard and they've seen enough to know you're good (or bad)
23:56.55gevaertsProject progress is done using advanced mathematics :)
23:57.16ojwbbut really, only they can actually clarify, and it's OK to ask them
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