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| 16:30.10 | stefanct | can an admin for an organisation become a student? it is clear from the FAQ that a mentor can not be a student (rationale: workload), but i there is nothing about an admin/student double role AFAICS |
| 16:30.43 | scorche|sh | stefanct: think of an admin as the mentor of mentors ;) |
| 16:30.50 | scorche|sh | so, no |
| 16:31.21 | gevaerts | That would be a huge conflict of interest |
| 16:31.21 | stefanct | well but the workload should be way less than for mentors and they also do not get compensated for the work AFAIK |
| 16:31.51 | ChrisOelmueller | well i assume it's not for the same organization |
| 16:31.52 | scorche|sh | stefanct: there are other reasons why a mentor cannot also be a student than just workload |
| 16:32.18 | stefanct | ChrisOelmueller: oh, it is. and the conflict of interested is indeed an issue |
| 16:32.30 | scorche|sh | ChrisOelmueller: yeah - best not to assume ;) |
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| 16:32.53 | ChrisOelmueller | okay, nevermind then :) |
| 16:33.14 | stefanct | but that could be solved by dropping out as admin as soon as the organization is accepted... or something like that |
| 16:33.42 | scorche|sh | stefanct: then why wouldnt the person replacing the original admin just be admin at first? |
| 16:34.30 | stefanct | e.g. because they are slacking and may only be motivated to do that if the chance of getting students is good :) |
| 16:35.27 | gevaerts | Before organisations are accepted, the admin can delegate a *lot*. Being able to copy and paste text and clicking "ok" is basically all that's needed |
| 16:35.43 | gevaerts | You don't have to be an org admin to work on the application |
| 16:36.11 | scorche|sh | we have (well, used to have) our org application on our wiki so that all may help work on it |
| 16:36.27 | ChrisOelmueller | yup, same here |
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| 16:37.00 | scorche|sh | but really, this whole situation is best just avoided entirely |
| 16:37.31 | scorche|sh | if your org lacks motivation that a potential student needs to be admin for a time, your org is likely not ready for GSoC |
| 16:37.47 | stefanct | same here... scorche|sh: i am not working towards that either, i just want to know our option |
| 16:38.07 | stefanct | my org has participated a number of times already |
| 16:38.23 | stefanct | that's probably part of the problem regarding motivation haha |
| 16:38.33 | scorche|sh | there arent really any options - you are either an admin/mentor or a student ;) |
| 16:39.25 | scorche|sh | yeah - i know exactly how it goes - i made the decision last year that there wasnt enough motivation within our project to continue doing GSoC |
| 16:39.29 | scorche|sh | it is a sad thing |
| 16:40.52 | stefanct | we didnt get accepted last year because we didnt improve/present our previously used wiki pages enough apparently :) |
| 16:44.51 | Naeblis | if I'm graduating this year (around May), am I eligible for GSoC? |
| 16:45.24 | blast007 | Naeblis: did you check the FAQ? |
| 16:46.44 | Naeblis | Yes. It says that you should be a student. But after May, I stop being one, so not sure... |
| 16:47.14 | blast007 | read the FAQ more closely. There's a section there called "I graduate in the middle of the program. Can I still participate?" |
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| 16:47.39 | Naeblis | oh, cool |
| 16:47.41 | Naeblis | thanks! |
| 16:48.00 | kai | of course you can always be a mentor |
| 16:48.05 | Naeblis | now I need to figure out when exactly do I graduate. <_< |
| 16:48.06 | kai | :) |
| 16:48.16 | Naeblis | not sure I have experience for that. |
| 16:48.22 | Naeblis | infact, I don' |
| 16:48.23 | Naeblis | t |
| 16:48.40 | kai | next year, then :D |
| 16:48.47 | Naeblis | maybe. :D |
| 16:48.54 | scorche|sh | kai: not anymore |
| 16:49.20 | scorche|sh | (well, unless they are 18) |
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| 16:50.34 | Naeblis | hmm. I'll be giving my exams in May. So I'm eligible I guess. |
| 16:51.03 | kai | scorche|sh: oh? that changed? |
| 16:51.25 | scorche|sh | kai: yup - everyone must be 18 as of May 27th this year |
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| 16:51.56 | kai | indeedio, wonder why |
| 16:52.05 | scorche|sh | kai: legal stuffs |
| 16:52.44 | kai | arguably the only thing that changes is that you can't get the t-shirt |
| 16:52.46 | kai | which is sad |
| 16:53.01 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Which means you have to ask the org admin to pick one up from the piles at the summit |
| 16:54.13 | kai | and hope that you're not wearing M, L or XL |
| 16:54.31 | JordiGH | Are there babydoll tees too? |
| 16:55.21 | kai | JordiGH: I think there's some girls cut every year, but sizes there seem to be fluctuating |
| 16:55.35 | kai | at least that's the gist of about every conf organizer I talk to |
| 16:55.40 | JordiGH | We need constant-size girls. |
| 16:56.08 | JordiGH | Or constant-size tees? Which size is fluctuating? |
| 16:56.21 | kai | I think it's the t-shirts |
| 16:56.51 | kai | I doubt the size fluctuations in the attendees is related to gender |
| 16:57.10 | JordiGH | Oh, I thought you were specifically saying that babydoll tee size was fluctuating. |
| 16:57.11 | kai | sweets and soda pops, more likely |
| 16:57.55 | kai | well, I'm not sure what girl's cut is most frequently used, but all of them seem to vary |
| 16:58.08 | kai | more than the unisex shirts |
| 16:58.11 | JordiGH | I was thinking of a sinusoidal teeshirt signal when you said "fluctuation". |
| 16:58.26 | MatthewWilkes | kai: Really? I had much more trouble finding a S than any other size |
| 16:59.25 | kai | JordiGH: there was a Linux.conf.au 2012 blog post detailing these problems |
| 16:59.43 | JordiGH | I find it kinda funny that tee shirt size is a blogworthy problem. |
| 16:59.57 | JordiGH | DDGs for it. |
| 17:00.53 | kai | you ever organized shirts for a conference? :) |
| 17:01.17 | JordiGH | No, just conference packets. |
| 17:01.39 | kai | anyway, time for me to be off |
| 17:01.44 | JordiGH | ttyl |
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| 20:58.09 | purezen | Hey guys..!! Can I know of projects using Android this time around other than OpenIntens..? |
| 20:58.31 | carols | purezen: have you checked out the list of orgs that participated last year and searched by android? |
| 20:59.54 | purezen | carols: Yep.. but most of those projects seem to have been done away with.. |
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| 21:00.11 | carols | purezen: well, sorry, then there's not much we can help you with there :-( |
| 21:00.22 | carols | unfortunately we don't control the viability of the communities... |
| 21:00.31 | purezen | carols: No probs..:-) |
| 21:00.32 | Triskelios | purezen: that's kind of a disturbing trend :( |
| 21:00.36 | carols | :-) |
| 21:01.17 | haseeb | hi carols |
| 21:01.22 | carols | hi haseeb |
| 21:01.26 | purezen | Triskelios: You mean what carol stated..? |
| 21:02.16 | purezen | And in case I want to participate this time.. is there something I can do at the moment..? |
| 21:02.20 | Triskelios | purezen: no, what you said |
| 21:02.50 | purezen | Triskelios: ok.. |
| 21:03.22 | purezen | Also, only a handful of orgs have displayed a tentative Idea list as of now.. |
| 21:04.04 | paultag | ours in Debian is still very bare. |
| 21:06.48 | purezen | paultag: Hmm.. saw that.. |
| 21:07.00 | paultag | I'm still trying to round up some folks |
| 21:07.09 | paultag | we're busy trying to release the next stable release, but I think I can pull it off. |
| 21:07.19 | paultag | I'd like to have an Android project, but I need a mentor for it |
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| 21:07.33 | paultag | but we've not even been accepted yet or anything, so, this is all speculation anyway |
| 21:13.03 | purezen | paultag: Well.. I get that.. |
| 21:13.28 | purezen | paultag: Btw.. what sort of an Android application would it be..? |
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| 21:14.02 | paultag | purezen: Well, http://blog.pault.ag/post/43421220694/gsoc-project-idea-debian-android-app |
| 21:14.17 | paultag | purezen: I don't have a mentor or a clear idea of how this'd get done, but it's something I really want as a Debianite. |
| 21:14.19 | ThomasWaldmann | hmm, android app... makes me thinking :D |
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| 21:15.39 | purezen | paultag: <looking at it> |
| 21:18.28 | purezen | paultag: btw.. what are PTS, BTS info..? |
| 21:19.08 | paultag | purezen: PTS is a Debian thing - the "Package Tracking System" - contains info on who maintains a package, what's where, and stuff like descriptions. The BTS is our Bug Tracking System |
| 21:20.18 | paultag | purezen: pts - http://packages.qa.debian.org/f/fluxbox.html / bts - http://bugs.debian.org/fluxbox |
| 21:20.41 | purezen | paultag: Ok.. I am able to get a picture.. |
| 21:21.18 | purezen | paultag: And how would that info. be sent to a client..? Via a web app. or some API..? |
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| 21:21.59 | paultag | purezen: there's a SOAP api for both. Since I know android breaks with SOAP in so many different ways, there's a good chance part of the project would be to design some sort of API to buffer a few APIs together. That's not ideal, though. |
| 21:22.20 | paultag | but yah, we need a mentor for this project, so I'm not sure if we can pull it off. |
| 21:22.59 | paultag | and we're not even an accepted project :) |
| 21:23.43 | purezen | paultag: Ya, I get that..:-) There's time for the selection process as well.. |
| 21:23.53 | paultag | mm! |
| 21:24.26 | purezen | paultag: One thing though.. there's some android code in your Github.. what does it do..? |
| 21:24.48 | paultag | purezen: I started playing with these ideas - it does absolutely nothing (and I really should delete it) |
| 21:25.10 | purezen | paultag: Ok..:D |
| 21:25.41 | paultag | actually just sets a cute Debian logo as the app logo. I was going to pick it up over my winter break from work, but ended up writing a language instead. |
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| 21:26.27 | purezen | paultag: Well.. :-) |
| 21:27.01 | purezen | paultag: Anyways, how likely (or unlikely) is it that you'll get a mentor for the same..? |
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| 21:27.42 | paultag | purezen: I'm not exactly sure. I'm going to ask the #debian-mobile folks, but I think they care more about debian on mobile devices then debian apps on non-debian OSs, I can try harder if I know there's going to be good demand. |
| 21:27.57 | paultag | *if* we get selected, which is a big if anyway |
| 21:30.18 | purezen | paultag: Ok.. cause.. I'd be interested in getting involved with Debian.. so in case such an application makes through.. how much Debian know-how would it require for the participant to have..? |
| 21:30.56 | paultag | purezen: frankly, little. Being good at android would likely be slightly more important, but the theoretical project student would have to learn some Debian stuff pretty quickly :) |
| 21:31.32 | purezen | paultag: ok.. such as..? |
| 21:32.00 | paultag | purezen: how the Debian distro works, suites and stuff, sections, basic know-how about package workflow and other basic stuff that will show up in the views |
| 21:32.51 | paultag | and eventually advanced stuff would be nice to build in too |
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| 21:33.08 | paultag | like integrate with user accounts to set Debian accounts and show stuff related to your packages, and stuff. |
| 21:33.37 | gevaerts | Sounds like a stuffy project :) |
| 21:34.01 | paultag | yah, likely not fun work :) |
| 21:34.10 | paultag | I'm sure there are other projects that will make you rich and famous |
| 21:34.14 | paultag | I don't think this is one of them :) |
| 21:34.47 | purezen | paultag: ok..:-) |
| 21:36.51 | purezen | paultag: Need to go now.. will definitely come later.. bye..:-) |
| 21:36.59 | paultag | purezen: feel free to drop by #debian-soc |
| 21:37.06 | paultag | (on OFTC) |
| 21:37.44 | purezen | paultag: Sure..:-) |
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