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| 16:07.48 | deathraider1620 | Hi, all! |
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| 16:09.25 | deathraider1620 | I plan to participate in GSoC 2013 and want to know what projects i can undertake on python, c & c++ |
| 16:10.58 | summatusmentis | as far as I'm aware, there's no guarantee GSoC 2013 will occur |
| 16:11.28 | summatusmentis | that said, you might look at what projects occurred last year and used those languages, and start working with them |
| 16:12.57 | JordiGH | I always find it a little backwards that people first think about what languages they can write in and then look for projects that use those languages. |
| 16:13.36 | JordiGH | I guess I'm just used to going the other way, finding a project I care about and then using or learning just about any language that project is using. |
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| 16:14.38 | nathanielmanista | Think about a problem that you want to solve. Then endure the language you must use to most expediently and robustly solve it. :-P |
| 16:14.58 | JordiGH | nathanielmanista: Yeah, like that. |
| 16:15.51 | JordiGH | I mean, say you know C++. C++ is such a complicated language and there are so many widely differing styles for C++, that it's almost like learning the language all over again each time you look at a different project. |
| 16:16.55 | JordiGH | Similar things apply to most other language. Some languages that attempt to enforce a style like Python have a little bit less of this, but the style can also be as complicated as the language it's written in |
| 16:17.17 | deathraider1620 | JordiGH i agree but some org's like python require you to submit a small patch to the project you are going to work on |
| 16:17.57 | deathraider1620 | so it is better to see which language i know and then choose the project |
| 16:18.54 | JordiGH | Is it really that difficult to learn a new language? I bet you'll have to learn new things about Python to submit a patch to Python itself. |
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| 16:19.25 | deathraider1620 | yeah i do agree. |
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| 16:19.56 | JordiGH | I suppose some languages are difficult if they are very different from the ones you already know. I just usually learn languages myself by first finding a project that is using that language. |
| 16:21.14 | deathraider1620 | yes, that is a good practice to choose a project and then start learning its language starting from small pieces and going to higher level |
| 16:21.55 | JordiGH | An essential skill that I don't think is frequently taught in schools is to read other people's code. |
| 16:22.32 | JordiGH | But then again, hell is other people's code: http://7.asset.soup.io/asset/2893/2775_c889.png |
| 16:24.05 | deathraider1620 | yeah i know that reading other people's code is helpful and it is considered "cheating" in schoolsbut when i'm talking about gsoc i have to complete the project within almost 2 months |
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| 16:25.02 | deathraider1620 | so i surely need to possess some pre-requisites for the project. |
| 16:25.20 | JordiGH | I had a student who had never programmed in C or C++ but he submitted good C++ code during GSoC 2012. |
| 16:25.56 | JordiGH | So it appears that sometimes you can learn a language during GSoC, or enough to get the job done, which is all that matters in the end. |
| 16:26.13 | deathraider1620 | and being an electronics student sometimes i can't spend whole day learning another language |
| 16:26.29 | JordiGH | We picked him because he was good at math and showed a lot of diligence. We helped him learn C++. |
| 16:26.52 | deathraider1620 | yeah it is true. thanks for the advice |
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| 16:27.32 | JordiGH | Does the electromagnetic radiation emitted from the devices you are surrounded by as a student hinder your ability to learn new languages? |
| 16:28.28 | JordiGH | Sorry, stupid joke. |
| 16:28.44 | deathraider1620 | its alright |
| 16:29.14 | deathraider1620 | so it means i may apply to a project even if i don't know the languages but i show that i am willing to learn them during gsoc |
| 16:30.08 | JordiGH | Perhaps. |
| 16:30.45 | JordiGH | If you think the project is interesting, you can learn the language easily, and you are willing to do the work, I say, don't restrict yourself by languages. |
| 16:31.02 | deathraider1620 | thanks, i will keep it mind while choosing my project. |
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| 17:40.33 | simonl | anybody knows how to reset the dreamspark account given by ACM? |
| 17:40.58 | carols | simonl: i'm happy to help you with ACM stuff but you'll need to email me. |
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| 17:45.01 | simonl | carols: even for dreamspark accounts? |
| 17:45.11 | carols | simonl: is it something gsoc-realted? |
| 17:45.15 | carols | *related |
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| 17:45.59 | simonl | not directly, I got dreamspark premium account via the free gsoc ACM account |
| 17:46.27 | simonl | so there's an extra level of indirection there |
| 17:46.33 | simonl | carols: ^ |
| 17:46.39 | carols | simonl: if it's gsoc relted, then please email me and i'll put you in contact with acm. if it's not gsoc related, then please choose another channel :-) |
| 17:47.20 | simonl | ok |
| 17:47.26 | carols | cheers |
| 17:47.31 | carols | serves some tea and coffeee |
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| 21:54.13 | ojwb | just got my (mentor) t-shirt - oddly the second line of the address was "LEVEL 5" rather than "KOROKORO" as it is in melange, but the courier seemed to cope |
| 21:54.42 | meflin | now sure what the second line even is |
| 21:55.06 | ojwb | "Street Address 2" |
| 21:55.14 | meflin | japanese? |
| 21:55.17 | ojwb | in my case, the suburb |
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| 21:55.20 | ojwb | oh, maori |
| 21:55.27 | ojwb | (new zealand) |
| 21:56.06 | ojwb | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korokoro,_New_Zealand |
| 21:56.20 | ojwb | at least i assume it's maori - i don't know what it means |
| 21:57.13 | meflin | intersting |
| 21:58.41 | meflin | I got mine yesterday but I am 1/3 of the USA from google |
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| 22:00.52 | meflin | here address 2 is usually an apartment number |
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| 22:03.59 | meflin | also congrats on mentoring :) |
| 22:06.26 | argonel | apparently it means "throat", and is also a fish |
| 22:11.35 | meflin | I need to finish kicking my idea around for MS topic |
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| 22:12.50 | meflin | more or less if anyone has any opinions its .. how you learn more by teaching |
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| 23:47.07 | infinity0 | anyone else get a wrong sized t-shirt? |
| 23:47.13 | infinity0 | i selected L on my profile and got a 2XL |
| 23:53.27 | argonel | infinity0: email carols |
| 23:54.30 | MatthewWilkes | infinity0: Google has analysed your search patterns and determined you are about to gain a lot of weight. |
| 23:54.44 | infinity0 | lol |
| 23:55.16 | infinity0 | eh i don't really want to make a fuss, i was hoping there was a wider mistake in which case it would have been more likely to be fixed :p |
| 23:55.27 | infinity0 | maybe i could just put it in the wash 40 times until it shrinks |
| 23:58.58 | argonel | lol |
| 23:59.45 | ojwb | infinity0: mine was the requested size |
| 23:59.59 | ojwb | perhaps your IRC handle and t-shirt size got swapped? |
