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| 08:43.58 | kai | hmm |
| 08:44.26 | kai | I think it's bad style to schedule the "write tests and documentation" part of gsoc in the last week |
| 08:45.17 | morice-net | does agree, it should be continuous test and doc, imho |
| 08:45.51 | gevaerts | likes fixing issues by renaming files |
| 08:46.11 | gevaerts | http://www.reallyslick.com/faq.html#4 |
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| 09:52.44 | ojwb | kai: yeah, I think it would be good to rewrite that bit of the timeline |
| 09:53.13 | ojwb | also, "pencils down" kind of suggests that the students have to stop work at that point |
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| 10:23.25 | ThomasWaldmann | ojwb: after having some issue in a past soc, I tell students that they have to be available until SOC is over. |
| 10:25.02 | ojwb | ThomasWaldmann: actually, I meant we want to encourage students to keep working on their projects (or with their orgs if their projects are totally completed) even after SOC |
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| 10:42.33 | ThomasWaldmann | ojwb: sure, that also :) |
| 10:43.32 | ThomasWaldmann | we just had once the case that a student had booked vacation after the pencils down |
| 10:44.26 | ThomasWaldmann | and back then, i guess the rules were changed later a bit, so that did not really fit |
| 10:45.15 | ThomasWaldmann | but in case of that student it was no problem as he had written enough and good enough code anyway |
| 10:45.43 | cvangysel | I've also finished my project, and I'm taking a short break starting in a couple of hours |
| 10:45.53 | cvangysel | I discussed it with my mentor beforehand, and it wasn't a problem |
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| 11:47.25 | logiclord | How to we submit our project ?? Do we need to create a project on code.google.com ? |
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| 11:53.30 | ojwb | logiclord: you'll be told how when you need to do it |
| 11:54.41 | logiclord | okay |
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| 11:57.18 | kai | !when |
| 11:57.18 | gsocbot | kai: "when" is later |
| 11:57.19 | kai | :) |
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| 12:16.13 | abhinav- | has been reading a famous old paper from ACM and noticed the pages/contents are out of order at some places :-/ |
| 12:17.21 | gevaerts | abhinav-: is it a paper about sorting? |
| 12:18.02 | abhinav- | gevaerts: It is about spell checkers, it does discuss sorting at some places :) |
| 12:18.51 | abhinav- | it is the paper by Jon Bentley , the programming pearls series. |
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| 15:31.09 | zfe_ | hello |
| 15:31.19 | roccivic | hi there |
| 15:31.27 | roccivic | what's up? |
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| 15:34.09 | zfe_ | nothing |
| 15:34.11 | zfe_ | not much |
| 15:34.11 | zfe_ | :( |
| 15:34.25 | roccivic | hmm, ok then |
| 15:34.28 | roccivic | :) |
| 15:35.33 | zfe_ | are you done with your projects? |
| 15:35.54 | roccivic | I've finished mine by week 7, been doing optionals since :D |
| 15:38.20 | roccivic | zfe_: how about you? finished? |
| 15:38.31 | zfe_ | no, fixing the last things |
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| 15:38.46 | zfe_ | and probably we will be working on it even after the deadline |
| 15:38.56 | zfe_ | cause a part of the software doesn't work as we want |
| 15:39.02 | zfe_ | and we are probably gonna rewrite it from 0 |
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| 15:39.33 | gevaerts | roccivic: didn't they fail you for being bad at estimating workloads? ;) |
| 15:39.58 | roccivic | gevaerts: lol, can they do that? |
| 15:40.14 | zfe_ | anybody having problems with git? |
| 15:40.54 | roccivic | zfe_: no, git is awesome :P |
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| 15:41.39 | zfe_ | it seems i can't pull |
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| 15:41.57 | gevaerts | roccivic: I suspect you might have a good chance if you'd complain to carols |
| 15:42.02 | zfe_ | error: Couldn't resolve host 'github.com' while accessing https://github.com/coltekin/TRmorph/info/refs |
| 15:42.18 | roccivic | zfe_: the #git channel may be the right place to ask for assistance. they are a nice crowd there |
| 15:43.12 | roccivic | gevaerts: what is there to complain about? |
| 15:43.24 | dbs | zfe_: I heard something about github doing maintenance this morning, IIRC |
| 15:43.33 | roccivic | i don't get it |
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| 15:43.41 | gevaerts | roccivic: nothing. There would be if they would actually failed you |
| 15:44.04 | gevaerts | There's still time of course :) |
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| 15:44.41 | gevaerts | Well, if they failed you for not planning properly as proven by being done in week 7 |
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| 15:45.06 | roccivic | gevaerts: I talked to the mentors and devs, they are fine with me hacking on other code since it's still relevant to my project. Put simple I implemented a few new features as part of the project, now I'm integrating these features into other areas of the codebase |
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| 15:45.40 | dbs | zfe_: http://status.github.com/ said they were having routing issues yesterday |
| 15:45.49 | dbs | zfe_: maybe you're in yesterday's time zone |
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| 15:45.56 | zfe_ | no, it seems that github is blocked by turkish govt |
| 15:45.57 | zfe_ | lol |
| 15:46.00 | zfe_ | i had to change dns |
| 15:46.32 | gevaerts | roccivic: that would be normal. If the schedule appears to be unrealistic (in either direction), adjusting goals is the thing to do :) |
| 15:46.42 | dbs | that would qualify as a "routing issue" in my book :) |
| 15:46.49 | Triskelios | zfe_: crappy "block" |
| 15:47.00 | zfe_ | Triskelios: yes, but still annoying |
| 15:47.05 | zfe_ | why would you blacklist github |
| 15:50.26 | aghisla | fear? |
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| 16:44.20 | neverpanic | DNS blocks... actually Germany's govt thought about those, too. They're totally useless, because given a list of domains, you can trivially find out which ones are blocked which would actually reverse the effect of the block, telling ppl where to look. |
| 16:45.04 | neverpanic | And since providers DNS servers nowadays tend to do weird things (e.g. not sending NXDOMAIN), you're better off using someone else's anyway |
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| 17:35.28 | carols | serves tea and cookies |
| 17:35.53 | neXyon | carols: thanks :D |
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| 17:37.00 | carols | yw neXyon :-) |
| 17:37.01 | dberkholz | carols: just got off the phone w/ john a bit ago, he's looking into a few things. seems like i'm about 3/4 of the way to a lot of different jobs, but not quite everything for any of them. |
| 17:37.06 | gevaerts | Cookies! |
| 17:37.13 | gevaerts | does the happy cookies dance |
| 17:37.19 | carols | dberkholz: i see, ok. good to know |
| 17:37.21 | akashm1990 | !schedule |
| 17:37.23 | akashm1990 | !faq |
| 17:37.24 | gsocbot | akashm1990: "faq" is http://goo.gl/Up2Qf |
| 17:37.29 | dberkholz | carols: the last bit is my impression more than something he said |
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| 17:38.06 | carols | dberkholz: alright, fair enough. |
| 17:38.40 | dberkholz | he's not quite sure i've got the mgmt experience to do it full-time, or the exact languages he's looking for in a coder, so he suggested maybe analyst. |
| 17:38.54 | carols | dberkholz: analyst. that's an interesting idea |
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| 17:41.45 | akashm1990 | Does anyone know if Google does international internships? ( i.e. being in India, can I apply to an internship in say US ?) -- since Google India doesnt have internships |
| 17:41.57 | carols | akashm1990: yes, it does. |
| 17:42.02 | neXyon | carols: wanna see a demo rest of my GSoC project (3D audio for blender)? :D |
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| 17:42.10 | carols | neXyon: sure! |
| 17:42.13 | carols | that sounds cool |
| 17:42.30 | dberkholz | sounds like that unusual genetic defect |
| 17:42.35 | neXyon | carols: I should better say hear :D here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIj8WhU6xh8 |
| 17:42.51 | dberkholz | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synesthesia |
| 17:43.00 | carols | neXyon: that's cool! :-) |
| 17:43.03 | carols | very nice work |
| 17:43.33 | akashm1990 | carols, Application process would be through the normal process? http://www.google.com/intl/en/jobs/students/ |
| 17:43.56 | carols | akashm1990: correct. the internships are divided out into seasons (summer/winter) and continents as I understand it. |
| 17:44.14 | neXyon | carols: thanks ^^ |
| 17:44.21 | carols | neXyon: yw :-) |
| 17:44.24 | carols | i like the sound effects |
| 17:45.04 | akashm1990 | Great.. I'll probably be applying for a 4 month summer internship ( subject to college rules allowing it) |
| 17:46.51 | neXyon | carols: the whole content (samples and models) is CC, so everything used to create this video was free and open source ^^ |
| 17:47.04 | carols | neXyon: that's great to hear :-) |
| 17:47.55 | gevaerts | thinks that graphics and sound people cheat. It's *easy* to have a nice demo if you're doing that sort of thing! Now do a nice demo of a memory allocator! :) |
| 17:48.32 | dberkholz | i'm sure you could make a pretty picture of the memory pool |
| 17:48.56 | dberkholz | and watch it change over time |
| 17:49.12 | gevaerts | Yes, but the audience will fall asleep :_ |
| 17:49.43 | dberkholz | seekwatcher makes pretty movies of IO |
| 17:50.28 | dberkholz | http://oss.oracle.com/~mason/seekwatcher/btrfs-compilebench-raid0.mpg |
| 17:50.48 | neXyon | gevaerts: hehe, well a part of my project was a high quality resampler using Julius O. Smith's algorithm that is working just awesome, but I think I'm the only one who really is excited about this part of the project and that's the part I'm most proud of :D |
| 17:51.36 | gevaerts | dberkholz: thank you for proving my point :) |
| 17:52.02 | gevaerts | neXyon: that sounds better :) |
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