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| 00:46.43 | mdc | Greetings fellow GSoC aficionados :) |
| 00:47.36 | [mharrison] | Sup |
| 00:48.18 | mdc | Starting to gear up for another Summer of Code :) |
| 00:48.57 | [mharrison] | Seems to be the popular thing to do these days |
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| 00:51.34 | mdc | I can't believe how quickly time seems to pass. |
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| 00:54.08 | mdc | I think since some of our GSoC students have become regular project members and mentors, we look forward to the program. |
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| 00:56.17 | [mharrison] | Nice. I reached out with my noodly appendage and touched my network...now I got some emails circulating with Google Boston employees CC'd =D |
| 00:56.24 | mdc | Never having participated in GSoC as a student, I enjoy talking with our mentors who were students about ideas. |
| 00:57.15 | mdc | [mharrison]: Sounds like effective networking :) |
| 00:57.35 | [mharrison] | I thank the magic of Cambridge, MA |
| 00:57.46 | mdc | lh: How in the world are you? :) |
| 00:58.02 | mdc | [mharrison]: I live right in the middle of Cambridge, MA :) |
| 00:58.14 | [mharrison] | Oh yeah? Awesome. So you know of the magic |
| 00:58.25 | lh | mdc: hey marty! i am well thanks, you? |
| 00:58.41 | [mharrison] | I live on the other side of the state, but I loves me some Cambridge, and I have contacts there |
| 00:58.51 | lh | looks at time, realizes she is going to be late ..... |
| 00:58.57 | mdc | lh: I'm doing great! |
| 00:59.03 | mdc | lh: ttyl :) |
| 01:00.24 | mdc | [mharrison]: I've lived here for a few decades now. Used to work at MIT. |
| 01:01.40 | mdc | We've done GSoC as a mentoring org since 2006. It's been a really good experience for us. |
| 01:02.25 | mdc | It's like a lot of things -- the benefit you get is pretty directly proportional to the effort you put in. |
| 01:02.44 | [mharrison] | Yeah |
| 01:02.52 | [mharrison] | It's a fantastic program for everyone who gets involved |
| 01:03.44 | ojwb | hi mdc |
| 01:04.18 | mdc | hi ojwb! :) |
| 01:04.50 | mdc | How's are things on your side of the world? (NZ, iirc) ? |
| 01:05.40 | mdc | I'm enjoying watching the winter Olympics. |
| 01:06.58 | mdc | ojwb: ah, I remember now, England :) |
| 01:07.00 | ojwb | good thanks |
| 01:07.03 | ojwb | actually, NZ |
| 01:07.09 | ojwb | though I'm from england originally |
| 01:07.16 | mdc | ah, ok :) |
| 01:07.30 | mdc | We had a good time at the mentor summit :) |
| 01:07.32 | ojwb | the winter olympics seem wrong what with it being summer here |
| 01:07.34 | ojwb | yeah |
| 01:07.59 | mdc | yes, I guess we just have to think of it as the Olympics of Winter Sports. |
| 01:08.12 | mdc | Though given the amount of difficulty with lack-of-snow |
| 01:08.28 | mdc | I imagine that they wish it were a bit more on the wintery side :) |
| 01:08.34 | ojwb | don't know if this will get shown in the US, but it made me think of Casablanca: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_May%27s_Toy_Stories |
| 01:09.05 | mdc | Ah, very cool :) |
| 01:09.32 | mdc | realizes that he needs Play Doh :) |
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| 01:10.55 | ojwb | i think plasticine is more popular in the UK, at least historically |
| 01:11.03 | ojwb | it definitely has a UK slant to it |
| 01:12.50 | mdc | ojwb: http://www.comparestoreprices.co.uk/images/pl/plasticine-12-neon-with-tools.jpg |
| 01:12.58 | mdc | looks like good stuff :) |
| 01:13.23 | mdc | "Make zillions of cool things!" |
| 01:13.42 | ojwb | not sure of the recipes, but it has a similar user interface to play doh |
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| 01:14.16 | mdc | I imagine there are quite a few recipes for substances of similar visual and tactile properties. |
| 01:14.27 | ojwb | yeah |
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| 01:14.49 | [mharrison] | Not quite Play Doh...but we just call that modeling clay here |
| 01:15.44 | mdc | Yes, Play Doh is generally aimed at children, and has a characteristic smell and texture (and it dries out rather quickly) :) |
| 01:16.04 | mdc | ojwb: You folks planning to apply as a mentoring org this year? |
| 01:16.58 | ojwb | mdc: I imagine SWIG will, but I haven't actually tried to rally the troops yet |
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| 01:18.24 | mdc | We now have two mentors who were students and they are quite enthusiastic, which is nice. |
| 01:19.00 | mdc | We've been working on our ideas list. |
| 01:19.13 | ojwb | i thought I'd be on holiday in Europe for a ~5 week chunk in the middle, so I was going to offer to coadmin, doing the intensive work at the start and end |
| 01:19.25 | ojwb | but flights look so pricey that I think I won't go after all |
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| 01:19.54 | ojwb | we had a couple of past student mentoring last year |
| 01:19.58 | mdc | Too bad your trip didn't work out. |
| 01:20.13 | mdc | I enjoy getting the perspective of former students. |
| 01:20.34 | mdc | The matching of students and mentors we have found is key to successful projects. |
| 01:20.38 | ojwb | yeah, though I'd like to have heard more from them |
| 01:20.52 | mdc | Buy them food :) |
| 01:21.12 | mdc | has ways of making them talk :) |
| 01:21.25 | ojwb | it's definitely the "package" you want to decide on |
| 01:21.35 | ojwb | definitely not just "do we want someone to work on this project" |
| 01:21.49 | ojwb | but also not just "is this a 'good' student" |
| 01:21.54 | mdc | timeline: http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2010/timeline |
| 01:21.57 | mdc | indeed |
| 01:22.28 | ojwb | odd font sizes for me |
| 01:22.48 | mdc | You mean the timeline page? |
| 01:23.00 | ojwb | yeah |
| 01:24.19 | ojwb | the second column is tiny - in 2009 it was more like the first column in size |
| 01:24.47 | mdc | control-+ is your friend :) |
| 01:24.59 | mdc | finds as he gets older it becomes more and more of a friend :) |
| 01:25.15 | mdc | I suppose CSS could also be a pal. |
| 01:27.11 | mdc | ojwb: Actually, it's really small to begin with, and should probably be made larger to start with. Perhaps worth a ticket. |
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| 01:27.36 | ojwb | yeah, i file one when I have a moment |
| 01:27.52 | mdc | Time to go watch the olympics :) |
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| 04:25.16 | robbyoconnor | yes |
| 04:25.36 | SEGA^CD | and oh my -- what an excellent resource freenode is |
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| 04:30.35 | robbyoconnor | a *HUMAN* couldn't read it w/o trying *REALLY* hard. |
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| 06:54.51 | zubin71 | the KDE ideas list is out! :) |
| 06:55.19 | zubin71 | do mentoring organizations always mail to the gsoc mailing lists when they out their ideas list? |
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| 09:21.32 | Nightrose | just for the record: the kde idea list isn't finished yet - we are still collecting ideas |
| 09:21.59 | Nightrose | but the ideas on it atm are good so feel free to get in touch with mentors about them already |
| 09:29.57 | thiago | is still trying to get Qt convinced to join too as an org |
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| 11:02.42 | _Samo | hi morning |
| 11:02.51 | _Samo | I have a question |
| 11:03.15 | _Samo | let's say I'm a mentoring organisation, but I have contacts with an university |
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| 11:04.08 | _Samo | and that university can provide mentors (a teacher) and students (his students) to our project |
| 11:04.43 | _Samo | and there is benefits in that squeme of things |
| 11:05.12 | _Samo | because the teacher can really perform well as a mentor |
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| 11:06.03 | _Samo | how can we make it compatible with a neutral selection of student applications? |
| 11:07.33 | Ivanovic | most likely not at all |
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| 11:08.15 | Dark_Shikari | you can, but obviously you have to make sacrifices |
| 11:08.20 | Dark_Shikari | i.e. some students will get rejected |
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| 11:12.34 | _Samo | I see thanks for your answers |
| 11:12.55 | Dark_Shikari | it clearly doesn't make sense unless the students are treated as, well, normal gsoc students |
| 11:14.08 | _Samo | yep but for very specialised stuff it could make sense to work with a 'prexistent' relationship |
| 11:14.42 | _Samo | because in that classroom there is a workgroup specifically working on that stuff |
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| 11:53.56 | Erant | _Samo: But then it's not GSoC anymore, you're just trying to get Google to sponsor you. |
| 11:54.49 | Erant | Anyway, gotta run, shopping time. |
| 11:55.12 | _Samo | Erant, well that's what GSoC is about, sponsoring students |
| 11:56.05 | araujo | _Samo, Usually, GSoC has listed also "Google" as an organization , here, you can tell a student of that course to apply to google as the project, and he can also recommend his mentor (in this case, the teacher) |
| 11:57.07 | araujo | This allows the kind of specialized work you are talking about to be part of the GSoC |
| 11:57.37 | ojwb | i'm not sure I'd say gsoc is about sponsoring students |
| 11:57.37 | Mek | and GSoC is not about sponsoring studnets, it is about getting students involved in open source projects |
| 11:57.38 | araujo | But, be aware, the slots for these kind of projects are very very minimal, and people inside Google really needs to show interest on the project to select it |
| 11:57.51 | ojwb | that's more just how it goes about achieving its aims |
| 12:00.16 | _Samo | araujo, thanks for the information |
| 12:00.28 | _Samo | I suppose this is what I'm looking for |
| 12:00.59 | araujo | _Samo, yes, pretty much I think, good luck |
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| 13:09.18 | MatthewWilkes | afternoon all |
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| 13:12.55 | spectie | hey matthew__ |
| 13:13.00 | spectie | *matthewwilkes |
| 13:13.10 | spectie | xchat should really fix its tab-complete |
| 13:13.13 | spectie | (to read my mind) |
| 13:15.47 | MatthewWilkes | it's open source, right? |
| 13:15.54 | MatthewWilkes | I might submit a patch to prefer me over other users |
| 13:17.08 | spectie | haha |
| 13:17.27 | spectie | that's not a bad idea actually... to have a 'preferred users' list |
| 13:18.22 | Kosma | even better, to make the client learn which users you tab most frequently |
| 13:18.54 | MatthewWilkes | indeed |
| 13:19.06 | Kosma | and if you your tab gets ambiguous, prevent the completing and beep, forcing you to enter some more letters |
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| 17:16.43 | tuxnani | any kde ideas? |
| 17:17.50 | skbohra | !anyone |
| 17:17.50 | socinfo | "anyone" is Instead of looking for mentors from specific projects here, you will likely get much better results by speaking to that mentoring organization themselves. You can find the org's contact info by clicking on their name in the list at: http://socghop.appspot.com/program/accepted_orgs/google/gsoc2009 |
| 17:17.56 | skbohra | tuxnani: ^ |
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| 17:34.33 | mdc | "It is a good day to hack." |
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| 17:59.49 | Unic0rn_ | Hi guys |
| 18:00.03 | karan | hi |
| 18:01.30 | skbohra | hi |
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| 18:24.53 | Unic0rn_ | hi karan |
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| 20:21.51 | Landon | lh: oh noes, I heard there are only 2 k-staters at google :( I may have to apply and fix that |
| 20:22.16 | Landon | just got out of a talk |
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| 20:27.15 | Kosma | mdc: everyday is hackday |
| 20:27.46 | mdc | Kosma: There are degrees of hack-worthiness :) |
| 20:30.17 | thebolt | hi mdc , been a while, how do oyu do? |
| 20:30.32 | mdc | hi thebolt! |
| 20:30.39 | mdc | Doing really well :) |
| 20:30.43 | mdc | How about you? |
| 20:30.50 | thebolt | surviving ;) |
| 20:31.09 | thebolt | which means it can be really good later |
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| 20:31.49 | thebolt | nah, but I enjoy what I do, just that I have to do it quite a lot right now :P (leaving home 7 every day to get to "work", getting home at 8.. and then work some 10-12 hours per day in weekend) |
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| 20:34.20 | mdc | thebolt: I hope you make some time for rest and relaxation :) |
| 20:34.38 | mdc | Your body has to be cared for as well as your mind :) |
| 20:35.00 | mdc | I hope you've at least seen Avatar in 3D :) |
| 20:35.14 | thebolt | heh, well, there will be, eventually |
| 20:35.21 | thebolt | no.. they only show it in 3d in four places in sweden |
| 20:35.28 | mdc | oooohhhhh |
| 20:35.28 | thebolt | and i haven't had time or money to go there (yet) |
| 20:35.43 | thebolt | (and no, haven't seen it in 2d either) |
| 20:35.45 | mdc | Something to look forward to :) |
| 20:35.59 | mdc | I'm playing music tonight at a local restaurant. |
| 20:36.07 | thebolt | cool |
| 20:38.35 | thebolt | hopefully I get saturday evening off.. but that depends on someone else than me so cannot control it (unfortunately) |
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| 21:04.09 | kblin | evening |
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| 21:05.46 | sfb | Hi Kai |
| 21:06.00 | thebolt | hi kblin |
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| 21:46.32 | Ivanovic | lh: regarding the thread about secondary school on the gsoc ml: somehow i don't think the "will be student" is applicable |
| 21:46.56 | Ivanovic | lh: it will be october before the time where he is actively a student |
| 21:47.28 | Ivanovic | and there is no way for him to get any acceptance letter till may |
| 21:47.55 | Ivanovic | since he will get his reports that he has the a-levels (which are required in germany to study) in june |
| 21:48.26 | Ivanovic | and yeah, entrollment does normally start some time in july or later |
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| 22:43.41 | robbyoconnor | this is cute: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=android&l=&relative=1 |
| 22:44.51 | thiago_home | I'd be surprised if anything had happened before the launch, though |
| 22:45.38 | thiago_home | besides, if you start from close to zero... |
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