IRC log for #gsoc on 20090602

00:04.14jaseboI want it
00:04.24jaseboI'm going to have to find a copy somewhere :D
00:04.40sandsmarkI take it you don't value your sanity
00:04.47sandsmark:-P
00:06.47r0bbyhrm is this week or 2
00:06.51r0bbyweek 1 or 2
00:06.56r0bbyI can't keep track anymore :/
00:07.28Ori_Bjasebo: yes; the 'root' user is called Glenda
00:07.33Ori_Bafter the movie 'Glen and Glenda'
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00:08.07z4chhmy parents don't take my gsoc job serious :\
00:08.17Ori_B*Glen or Glenda
00:08.35jaseboOri_B: lol
00:08.55z4chhi'm in the middle of coding and my dad walks in and tells me i need to dust my room >.<
00:08.58r0bbyz4chh: they don't?
00:09.08brlcadz4chh: that's probably more the 'working from home' aspect, have a laptop?
00:09.18sandsmarkz4chh: always keep a dust-free room
00:09.28z4chhbrlcad, yep
00:09.34z4chhsandsmark, i try :\
00:09.35r0bbyWHOA START OF WEEK 2
00:09.41Ori_BI solved that problem by not living at home *cough*
00:09.45sandsmarkz4chh: obviously not good enough :-P
00:09.50jasebo"We are all interested in the future, for that is where we will spend the rest of our lives"
00:09.53brlcadso work from the library for at least 8 hours a day, make it routine so you're "at work" to them
00:10.04brlcador the local starbucks
00:10.20z4chhyeah i was thinking about that
00:10.34brlcador someplace similar where you can get stuff done without being overruled by parents (it is their house after all that you're calling your 'office')
00:11.14z4chhi don't call it my 'office'...i actually do call it my office :)
00:11.33brlcadmy point being, you've set up shop in their house
00:11.36brlcadno matter what you call it
00:11.39brlcadit's their house
00:11.55z4chhmy sister is all "it's not your office....and you don't have a real job"
00:12.05sandsmarkz4chh: flash them some cash
00:12.20skbohraworking @ home just don't works for me either
00:12.46z4chhsandsmark, i did flash her $400 the other day right before i gave it to my parents
00:12.47z4chh;p
00:12.52sandsmarkhehe
00:13.20r0bbyz4chh: what are you working on?
00:13.46r0bbygets back to typing his blog post long overdue
00:14.03z4chhi'm doing a project for maemo on liqbase (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt7qB37sLLo&feature=related) writing an app using that framework....coded in c
00:14.38sandsmarkhehe, I haven't really blogged before, and was half-way forced by my mentor to start :-P
00:14.58sandsmarkI'm going to learn a lot this summer (I had to finish my django based blog first :-P)
00:15.04z4chhi'm going to use my blogs for my reports
00:15.06r0bbyheh
00:15.11Landonsandsmark: win
00:15.15LandonI'm making a blog right now too
00:15.19sandsmarkhehehe
00:15.35z4chhi joined the "i hate wordpress but i use it anyways" club :)
00:15.35r0bbyI'm using blogger's craptastic system :)
00:15.39sandsmarkz4chh: that's looking pretty awesome
00:15.46sandsmark(the video)
00:16.02r0bbyz4chh: quit calling it your office :P
00:16.06z4chhsandsmark, thanks...lcuk's work (he not here right now)
00:16.10sandsmarkkk
00:16.10r0bbyI work in my bedroom and nobody bugs me :)
00:16.21r0bbyI'm a total bitch when stressed out/annoyed :)
00:16.31z4chharen't we all ^^
00:16.31sandsmarklinux/free software on embedded is starting to look great :-)
00:16.42z4chhsandsmark, indeed
00:17.07skbohrasetup a tumblog, looking petty awesome to me , so far
00:17.10z4chhi'm developing on a nokia n810 and n800
00:17.13r0bbyLike my first deliverable involved tedious, and i mean tedious stuff.
00:17.31r0bbyI found errors i overlooked; upside i got to clean it up :)
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00:17.58sandsmarkI just saw notmarts latest stuff yesterday: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGPtYF4vs8k&fmt=18
00:20.13z4chhthat looks really nice
00:20.17z4chhthat is kde 4?
00:20.31z4chhive tried kde4..it was buggy as hell
00:20.47sandsmarkyeah, kde 4
00:21.20r0bbyz4chh: what org is this :)
00:22.24z4chhr0bby, ?
00:23.09sandsmarkz4chh: which version of KDE was it that you tried?
00:23.50sandsmark(4.2 was lightyears ahead of 4.0 and 4.1 in terms of stability, and 4.3 seems to be continuing that trend)
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00:24.33z4chhsandsmark, it was kde4 kdemod (http://chakra-project.org/) for arch linux
00:24.52sandsmarkblame me, then, I'm responsible for the 64bit packages of kdemod :-P
00:25.16z4chhi use 32bit
00:25.18z4chh;p
00:25.38sandsmarkhehe, blame funkyou (or me, we both contribute to the pkgbuilds :-P)
00:25.57z4chhah
00:26.00sandsmarkz4chh: you're a fellow arch user, I guess? :-)
00:26.31z4chhthrough and through :D
00:26.37sandsmark;-)
00:28.04r0bbywgar irg are you working w/
00:28.12r0bbyorg
00:28.13Landonr0bby: MUMBLER
00:28.17r0bbyahh
00:28.18r0bbysorry
00:28.20r0bbyim dense
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00:30.18z4chhkdemod wasn't bad..it was actually quite nice...it just seemed to have some annoying little bugs, crashes..w/e
00:30.41sandsmarkbut was it 4.0, 4.1, 4.2, or?
00:30.58z4chhargghh hmm..let me see if i wrote it down
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00:31.11sandsmarkhehe, no sweat :-P
00:32.39sandsmarkif you had any crashes in 4.2, backtraces would be most welcome ;-)
00:33.09sandsmark(not that I expect it, or want you to waste time on it, but if you're bored and what something useful to do :-)
00:33.17z4chhmust have been 4.2...i did use this repo http://mirror.rit.edu/kdemod/core/i686
00:33.27sandsmarkkk
00:38.25z4chhi've got to dust my room, bbl :(
00:38.35r0bbyz4chh: I haven't dusted mine
00:38.40r0bbyIt's such a sty i swear
00:38.50r0bbyI have entire side of my bed i cant walk on :)
00:39.02z4chhwhy would you walk on your bed?
00:39.08z4chhdon't you lay on it?
00:39.28z4chhdo you sleep standing up?
00:39.47z4chham i asking to many question that i don't want the answer to?
00:39.53z4chhoh right...dusting
00:39.55z4chhbbl :\
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00:46.12r0bbyon other side :P
00:46.19r0bbyz4chh  :P
00:46.25r0bbynobody dusts :)
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00:51.43LandonMaNI,  do exercises today?
00:52.03Landonkblin: you too!
00:52.10Landonis wondering if the user auth worked out alright
00:54.00lcuksandsmark, tis nice isn't it :) (liqbase i mean)
01:01.58r0bbyI need to do some
01:02.05r0bbyyou must think im a lardass :(
01:02.39Landonyes!
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01:12.41z4chhalrighty
01:12.49z4chhi think i might have the cleanest room in all of gsoc now
01:13.51Landonz4chh: nope
01:13.59Landonmine is _empty_
01:14.00Landonvoid
01:14.02Landonnothing in it
01:14.03skbohrathere are many girls too in gsoc :D and I doubt they probably have more cleaner rooms :D
01:14.31z4chhLandon, no air? i feel sorry for you :|
01:14.43summatusmentisstupid flipping Disk Utility
01:14.45skbohrarunning away
01:15.39Landonit's so empty there's not even a speck of nothign inleft in it
01:15.39Landonit makes black holes feel warm and fuzzy
01:15.57Landonsounds like windows, summatusmentis
01:16.13LandonI mean, if it were linux
01:16.15Landonyou'd be saying
01:16.19Landonstupid flipping diskutil2
01:16.26summatusmentisLandon: OS X, actually
01:16.27z4chhLandon, actually black holes have a shit ton of mass ;p
01:16.33summatusmentissame concept though
01:16.54z4chhmatter..mass w/e
01:17.42z4chha better analogy would be the void between our galaxy and neighboring galaxies
01:19.35LandonOH
01:19.37LandonOH
01:19.37LandonOHi KNOW
01:19.50Landonvoid between r0bby 'ys ears
01:19.56z4chhrofl
01:20.04Landonbadum-tsh
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01:22.38r0bbymy back hurts
01:22.40r0bby:(
01:22.48r0bbyz4chh: mine isnt clean :)
01:22.58r0bbyskbohra: I met one of them :)
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01:23.30r0bbyand i think OpenMRS has 2
01:23.48z4chhi just saw like a 3minute geico commercial on the history channel with that caveman giving a speech...it was bloody hilarious
01:23.52skbohrar0bby: :)
01:24.07r0bbyGeico is evil, mmmK
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01:24.46z4chhhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8e2z75V8iI
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01:26.42skbohra!stats
01:26.42socinfo"stats" is (#1) http://www.lfowles.org/irc/gsoc/stats.htm, or (#2) EXPERIMENTAL http://lfowles.org/django/pysg/stats/%23gsoc/
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01:27.33skbohrawell I was looking for gsoc stats
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01:27.39skbohranot #gsoc stats, socinfo :P
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01:28.29r0bbyhrm
01:28.42r0bbywelcome back
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01:48.00Landonsandsmark: you did/are doing a blog in django? what sort of "extras" do you have on it?
01:48.12Landonis trying to get ideas for his :P
01:58.29ecinis more than happy with his tumblog.
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02:16.41sandsmarkLandon: nothing :-P
02:16.45sandsmarknot even comments, yet
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05:22.21kblinpff
05:22.36kblinso much for "speakers will be notified on june 1st"
05:22.51kblingrumbles
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05:33.18jasebowhich speakers would be notified kblin?
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05:41.33kblinjasebo: I sent a talk proposal to the storage developer's conference
05:42.04kblinand I'm starting to wonder if I need to book a flight to california this summer or not
05:43.12summatusmentisstorage developers? what storage dev do you do?
05:43.37kblinsamba?
05:43.59summatusmentisoh, I see
05:44.08summatusmentisI didn't know you were a samba dev
05:44.40kblinA /whois would have told ;)
05:44.54kblinkblin [n=kai@samba/team/kai]
05:45.03summatusmentisthat's so... impersonal
05:45.16kblinhehe, fair enough
05:45.42summatusmentisor something >_>
05:45.54summatusmentiswhere is lh? I haven't seen her in forever
05:46.07kblinno idea
05:46.23summatusmentisyou have ops, you have to know everything about her!
05:46.26summatusmentisor something
05:46.37kblinprobably still fighting the pile of work that stacked on her desk while she was on vacation
05:47.05summatusmentispsh, work
05:47.19summatusmentis(I say as I'm fighting with my C skills)
05:47.55kblinwhy are you fighting your C skills? you'll probably need them at some point..
05:52.47summatusmentisbecause I'm switching from java (what school uses) to C, and syntax is being angry
05:52.56summatusmentisand I still don't know pointers as well as I should
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05:53.43kblinoh, I see
05:54.06kblindoes java have a garbage collector? I don't remember..
05:54.09summatusmentisit does
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05:54.21kblinthat's going to bite you for a while, then
05:54.24summatusmentisjava doesn't make you think about mem stuff
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05:54.57kblinon the upside, reading a line of text from a file in C is much less work ;)
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05:55.20summatusmentisI started teaching myself on C++ (stupid idea, apparently) but I never learned memory management
05:56.18summatusmentisand so school skews my abilities, but OpenAFS for whatever reason (:-P) wants C code
05:56.52kblinwell, C certainly is a good choice for low level stuff like file systems
05:57.02summatusmentisclearly :-P
05:57.12kblinbe happy it's not fortran
05:57.15kblin;)
05:57.28summatusmentisI hear that's no fun also
05:57.42summatusmentismy engineering friends hated it
05:57.43kblinit's a syntax error to program fortran while not wearing a blue tie
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06:50.13kblinmeh
06:52.17kblinmy gsoc student can't seem to get his reports out in time
06:52.59st_shadow_by:) I send weekly report to my mentor
07:01.23codestasheri talk to my mentor daily about my progress, so there is no need of report submission :)
07:05.29araujoirc++
07:05.31araujo:P
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07:11.44kblincodestasher: this isn't about keeping the mentor informed
07:11.55codestasherthen ?
07:11.58kblincodestasher: this is about keeping the rest of the community in the loop
07:12.07codestasherohk
07:12.21codestasherbut i wasnt asked to submit any reports
07:12.51MaNIits obviously an org specific thing
07:13.27codestasheryeah, but i think keeping the mentor informed about your work is much better
07:13.28codestasher:)
07:14.07MaNIwell then you are lucky you didn't apply to kblin's org
07:14.28kblindunno. I found that in the previous years, I had no clue what other folks working on my project for gsoc were doing
07:14.28codestasheri will apply next time
07:15.01codestasherkblin what is your project?
07:15.19kblinWorldForge, Wine and Samba. Pick whatever you like
07:15.35kblinwhich reminds me
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07:18.15theboltHi
07:18.23kblinhi thebolt
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07:32.33MaNILandon, registration works fine by the way
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13:11.42Landonsandsmark: heh, I'm going to go whole hog with RSS and tagging and such (and comments)
13:11.47Landonstill in the model making stage though
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13:23.32sandsmarkLandon: hehe, ok :-)
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14:14.30thiagosswhat's lh's email?
14:14.31thiagoss!lh
14:14.31socinfo"lh" is Leslie Hawthorn, Program Manager - Open Source; Geek Herder extraordinaire. This is who you turn to if you have very specific questions about GSoC whose answer applies only to you.
14:14.51smtmsthiagoss, you didn't receive a single e-mail sent by her?
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14:15.11dieb_thiagoss i think we should mail ellen ko instead
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16:01.53LandonMarkieMark1: re: delay in database
16:02.02LandonI guess I need to fix caching >.>
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16:02.19MarkieMark1no worries, I guess I need to slow down :)
16:02.35Landonnah, 5 minute caching of everything is probaly too much :P
16:02.53Landontrying to test new templates
16:03.13Landonme: WHY <F5> DONT <F5> YOU <F5> CHANGE <F5> oh....
16:03.30MarkieMark1I was shift-refreshing :)
16:03.45LandonI probably had some ctrl-f5s in there
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21:43.20kblinmeh
21:43.31kblincalifornians and deadlines don't quite work out
21:43.56summatusmentisbahahaha, what conference did you submit to?
21:44.12kblinhttp://www.snia.org/events/storage-developer2009/
21:45.22kblintheir loss, of course
21:45.44kblinI don't have to fly to california twice a year
21:46.02Ivanovic:)
21:47.00summatusmentiskblin: does that mean you didn't get in? or just haven't heard?
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21:48.07kblinsummatusmentis: I still haven't heard
21:48.18summatusmentisI see
21:49.07summatusmentisI hope to get funded through UMN undergrad research program for next spring, and hopefully can get published (helping grad school apps)
21:49.09kblinbut flights aren't going to get cheaper, and given that they're _really_ expensive this year, the earlier I can look for somebody to pay for my flight the more likely it is that I can go there
21:49.50kblinthe cheapest direct flight to SFO this year is 2.2k EUR
21:50.19summatusmentisgood lord
21:50.25summatusmentiswhere're you flying from?
21:50.28Catfish_Manthe moon
21:50.39kblingermany
21:50.50summatusmentisthere's someone here from germany, flew into SFO
21:50.58summatusmentisnot sure how, or through where
21:51.16kblinwell, I can change at atlanta and only pay 600 bucks
21:51.17summatusmentis(here being afskbpw2k9 workshops.openafs.org)
21:51.27summatusmentisatlanta's not a bad airport
21:51.42kblinchanging planes in the states is a pain
21:52.03summatusmentisI've changed planes a fair amount in atlanta, it's pretty easy
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21:52.04kblinyou need to get through immigration and customs mid-trip
21:52.19summatusmentiswhat? really?
21:52.30summatusmentiseven if they're just shifting your stuff to another plane?
21:52.54kblinyou need to pick up your luggage and get through customs
21:53.11kblinat least that's what I had to do last time I did a flight like that
21:53.22summatusmentisthat's the stupidest thing I've ever heard, where you changing airports?
21:53.25kblinonly works if you're flying out of the states again
21:53.30kblinnope
21:53.47kblingoing through JFK or Ohare, don't remember
21:53.52summatusmentisthey made you collect your luggage?
21:53.58summatusmentisweird
21:54.08kblinand that was relaxed pre 9-11 flying
21:54.20summatusmentisthat's ridiculous
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21:54.35kblinsure, how else would you do the customs stuff?
21:55.12kblinI remember the same being required of the folks on my last SFO flight if they wanted to continue on to other US domestic locations
21:55.45summatusmentiswell, the way you transfer flights is that they just do the transfer for you
21:55.54summatusmentisso one would think you'd do customs at your final destination
21:56.21kblinbut domestic arrivals don't pass that border control and customs barrier usually
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21:56.51summatusmentisoh, I suppose they section off international flights
21:57.05summatusmentisI'd forgotten about thtat
21:57.10summatusmentisthat*
21:57.28kblinin any way, changing planes in the US is a pain
21:57.41kblinif you're coming from a non-US airport
21:58.02kblinI prefer changing planes in europe
21:58.10kblinbut it's not worth a thousand bucks
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21:59.15summatusmentischanging planes in the US is a pain, even if you're coming from a US airport
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21:59.49kblincalifornia is on the wrong side of that continent
22:00.33codestasherkblin do yuo ever sleep ?
22:00.45codestasher*you
22:00.49kblincodestasher: sure
22:01.04codestasherwhich time zone are u in ?
22:01.09kblinCEST
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22:03.25kblinand as for the sleeping part, I intend to do that now
22:03.30kblinnight :)
22:04.12codestasherme too
22:04.18codestashernight
22:04.20codestasher:)
22:04.36summatusmentis'night
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22:52.41summatusmentis*headdesk* svn is not cvs
22:53.00summatusmentisI kept wondering why "cvs" wasn't updating
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23:01.35mwilkes|afkWhy do you even know that acronym?
23:01.37mwilkes|afkerr
23:01.40mwilkes|afkinitialism, whatever
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