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00:08.53PhilipJamesHello. I'm sure this comes up a lot, but when will applications start for this year?
00:10.05dandersonnot yet known
00:10.17dandersonsee faq for last year for last year's timeline, it should be reasonably close
00:10.35PhilipJamesFair enough. Thx.
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04:57.25summatusmentisno more dancing
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05:24.15Ori_Bnotes that it's likely he'll be in California this summer.
05:24.26summatusmentisreally? cool
05:24.37summatusmentisI'll be in California for like.. 4 days
05:24.41Ori_Bdepends if this summer job pans out :)
05:25.01summatusmentiswell, hopefully anyway
05:25.27Ori_Bcool
05:25.55summatusmentishehe, good luck with your job
05:26.03summatusmentisjob winning?
05:26.14Ori_Bjob winning? huh?
05:26.25Ori_Bnot sure what you mean by that
05:26.46summatusmentiswell, getting the summer job
05:26.51summatusmentiswhatever you call that :)
05:26.59Ori_Bah.
05:27.20Ori_Bis just waiting for official confirmation... which should come fairly soon.
05:27.44summatusmentiswhich company?
05:27.49Ori_BSandia labs
05:27.58Landoncool :) ideally I'd get a job in cali too :P
05:28.00summatusmentisnot sure what that is, but cool :)
05:28.11summatusmentisLandon: where'd you apply?
05:28.14Landonfacebook
05:28.18Ori_Bsummatusmentis: http://sandia.gov/mission/ste/index.html
05:28.19summatusmentisheh
05:28.35Landona recruiter contacted me last night, which is better than *everywhere else* I've applied to
05:28.46summatusmentisI'd feel bad working for facebook
05:28.52Ori_BLandon: :) that's cool
05:28.54summatusmentiswhat with their massive data mining and everything
05:28.57Landonbecause you'd be too busy spying on hot chicks? :P
05:29.09Landonheh
05:29.13LandonI'm kind of indiscriminate atm ;)
05:29.16Landonas long as it's money
05:29.16Ori_Bsummatusmentis: mm. because it's so much worse than working for Google?
05:29.20Ori_B;-)
05:29.20summatusmentishrr... no, I have a girlfriend :-D
05:29.28summatusmentisOri_B: touche
05:29.35Landonalso sent a resume to MS
05:29.37summatusmentisI hae issues with Google too, sort of
05:29.48summatusmentisLandon: I'm not talking to you anymore :)
05:29.51Landon:o
05:29.57theboltOri_B: well, google at least have an idea of doing good.. :P
05:30.03Ori_BLandon: Mandriva Software?
05:30.05summatusmentiswould ou really wanna work for MS?
05:30.11summatusmentisthebolt: so they say
05:30.14theboltLandon: nice.. i wouldn't mind working for MS research..
05:30.15Landonfor a summer internship? I'd be fine with it
05:30.32summatusmentisI mean, that's not to say that I don't love Google's prodcuts
05:30.42summatusmentisproducts*
05:30.59Landonthebolt: likewise, but at least facebook I can connect to
05:31.09Landonsince I use it several hours a day
05:31.09Landon:P
05:31.13theboltLandon: :)
05:31.18Landoncan't say the same for any ms product
05:31.21summatusmentisseveral is an understatement
05:31.25Landonshhhhhhhh
05:31.29summatusmentisheh
05:31.36theboltLandon: since i moved here i've become an avid user of facebook.. just because everyone else here does so
05:31.46theboltso if you're not on facebook you mis 99% of all social activities :P
05:31.54Landonits true :P
05:32.05summatusmentishaha :-D
05:32.06theboltbut i use MS products more than facebook.. i'm a windows guy (coding in visual studio.. ;)
05:32.07Ori_Byeah..
05:32.18Ori_Bthe only reason I tolerate facebook is because I can tell it to email me everything I care about :)
05:32.21LandonI'm using VS for my data structures class
05:32.31Landonits pretty nice
05:32.37Landonbut it just reminds me I need to learn more vim
05:32.51thebolti wouldn't trade VS for any other tool atm at least
05:32.52summatusmentisin order of products used? facebook, google, OS X, MS, various open source stuff
05:32.53summatusmentisI think
05:32.58Landonsince I have a whole python setup going there with autocompletion and function lookup and all that good stuff
05:33.20theboltLandon: you know there is a VS addon which gives you vim as editor in VS? ;)
05:33.26thebolti used it for a while.. not anymore though
05:33.32Ori_Bheh. yeah, vim is very nice, but at the same time, I wish I had time to write my own vim-like editor because vim's code is scary
05:33.37LandonI don't know what I'll do when I need to make a gui, but I'll deal with it when I get to there
05:33.38Ori_Band there are issues I want to fix with it
05:33.50Ori_BLandon: Glade.
05:33.53Landonthebolt: not that much of a fanboy :)
05:33.58Ori_BGTK/Glade works quite well :)
05:35.17theboltLandon: well, i don't care for the political side.. when i choose tools its based on what gives me most efficiency and i like technically.. (which is why i use windows and VS as well as vim, git and other FOSS-tools)
05:35.38Ori_Bdoesn't care for not being able to poke around in his tools to understand how they work fully :)
05:36.25Landonthebolt: likewise, but since I'm on ubuntu 99% of the day, I tend to use FOSS programs, but it doesn't kill me to have to use something closed source once in a while
05:36.30Landonas long as it plays nice with everything else
05:37.14Landonon that note, is there a good SVN plugin for VS?
05:37.33LandonI've tried ankh, but it locks up when I try to checkout a project
05:37.44thebolthm, no idea.. don't like those integrated ones
05:38.00summatusmentisugh, svn plugins
05:38.01theboltbe it sourcesafe (which sucks for oh so many reasons), p4 or svn
05:38.17summatusmentisbeen fighting with subversive and eclipse for hours
05:40.46Ori_Btosses Landon a command line :)
05:41.19LandonI haven't quite gotten used to the idea of cli on windows yet :P
05:41.31Ori_Btosses Landon cygwin
05:41.34Landonbut I suppose cygwin+svn would work well enough come  think of it
05:41.35theboltnonono
05:41.40theboltcygwin is not good for anything
05:41.59theboltif you need a bash shell use msys..
05:42.16theboltbut svn from cmd (or these days i prefer "powershell" over cmd) works fine..
05:42.17Ori_Berm, both work fine for me.
05:42.34thebolti don't touch cygwin with a long pole unless i really have to
05:42.39Landonthebolt: its mostly aesthetics for me, but cmd looks clunkier than say gnome-term
05:42.49Landonits probably just the default fonts though tricking me
05:43.01Ori_BLandon: no, it's clunkier.
05:43.14Landonoh and I can't easily select anything >.<
05:43.33Ori_Btries to remember... there was an alternate console that I was using all summer... uh.
05:43.40Ori_Bone that didn't suck like cmd
05:43.47Ori_BI can't remember it's name.
05:47.10Ori_Bgoes to bed.
05:47.21Landonhomeworks
05:48.30summatusmentisthrows eclipse against a wall
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05:51.34summatusmentishi Sup3rkiddo
05:52.04Sup3rkiddosummatusmentis, yo, good morning
05:53.37summatusmentishaha
05:53.46summatusmentisI'm glad your morning is good
05:53.57summatusmentisalmost midnight here >_>
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06:16.49Sup3rkiddosummatusmentis, :P
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11:07.36MatthewWilkeskblin: ?
11:07.50kblinI'm halfway through my thesis and it's the first time I need to write some code
11:07.51kblin:)
11:07.57MatthewWilkeshehe
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11:09.54kblinI need to read up on biopython
11:13.28thebolthi guys/girls
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11:23.32kblinhi thebolt
11:24.10thebolthey kblin , how're you doing?
11:26.44kblinfine, currently learning biopython
11:27.24kblinor rather, python regular expressions
11:27.35theboltokay :)
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12:28.25kblinahrg, crap
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12:34.32kblinthe ubuntu biopython package is pretty outdated
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12:43.23kossshi all
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14:20.51mogharHi, I have one more question.
14:20.55moghar"<@danderson> as long as you have proof of enrollment in the university before the program starts" - would it be enough to be high school student before to program starts, and get to university during GSoC? FAQ for 2008 doesn't mention high school but it says that schools are not limited to universities.
14:22.30Mekafaik you can be a highschool student, but you need to have proof at the start of soc that you will be enrolled in university after highschool
14:22.30summatusmentisbe it a letter of acceptance, some sort of class schedule, something that can show you're a college student, or will be
14:23.38mogharI see
14:25.55mogharNow I have to think how to get such proof. I'll take exams in May, so I won't know the result before ~June
14:26.17kossshow can i connect with any mentors ?
14:27.33waldimoghar: see http://code.google.com/intl/de-DE/opensource/gsoc/2008/faqs.html#0.1_eligibility for the last years conditions
14:29.52mogharOK, thanks.
14:32.47kblinkosss: well, if you ignore the little fact that the mentoring orgs haven't been announced yet, you can just contact a mentoring org you're interested in
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14:39.54RuuDwhere can i find the list of the mentoring organisations which will be participating in this year's gsoc
14:40.03RuuD?
14:41.53Mekthere is no such list yet
14:42.35RuuDwhere can i get an idea of the organisations
14:42.36RuuD?
14:45.16RuuDplz help me
14:45.52summatusmentisRuuD: you can check out last years orgs, but that doesn't necessarily guarantee anything
14:46.14RuuDok thnx
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14:57.37kosssthank
14:58.16kosssbecouse of i can wait
14:58.25kosssbecouse of i can't wait*
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19:00.50Kralnlh: so, I was in cupertino the other day
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20:50.34lhKraln: did you go to apple?
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22:59.14MatthewWilkeshah - http://twitpic.com/1bgnt
23:03.54Kralnlh: yeah. I tried to hail you so I could see google hq, but it was saturday by time I tried and I hope you were at home enjoying your day off
23:09.51MatthewWilkesheh, what sort of fanboy am I?  I have been confused by the link between fruit and cupertino for hours now
23:12.14summatusmentisMatthewWilkes: seriously?
23:12.57MatthewWilkesyup
23:13.02MatthewWilkes:S
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23:23.38lhKraln: i was indeed. :)
23:23.45lhdid you enjoy the visit?
23:28.17r0bbysighs
23:31.17scorchelh!
23:36.11lhscorche: scorche!
23:36.14lhhow are you? :)
23:36.45scorchenot too great...though, the toilet gods shall thank me for my offering
23:38.05scorchedid you receive a mail from Bjorn about our 2007 payment?
23:39.39lhscorche: possibly, i think it may have been sent to ellen.
23:39.45lhi am sorry you are not well :(
23:40.05scorchei believe it was sent to both of you...i was just curious as that deadline is approaching , and we havent heard back
23:40.11scorcheeh...it happens =/
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23:52.17lhscorche: i know i didn't get anything. i'll look into it.
23:52.38scorchelh: thanks!
23:52.44scorchesee you at SCaLE =)
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23:55.01lhscorche: indeed. and looking forward to it. :)
23:57.20dandersonheaps hate on the set (flatmates, ISP)
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23:57.42dandersonone for eating bandwidth, the other for having dropped to a stupidly low overall bw for some reason
23:58.05dandersonlike, 160kbps
23:58.12dandersonI can't even listen to the radio
23:59.24MatthewWilkesdanderson: QoS them
23:59.50MatthewWilkesWe had to QoS one of my neighbours who was using our connection for VoIP and torrents 24/7

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