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09:50.26florian_good morning
09:50.49nealhi florian
09:51.28nealflorian: a couple of issues:
09:51.38nealflorian: I'm not being cc'd on bugzilla messages
09:51.46nealflorian: I suspect that it is the same problem.
09:52.16nealflorian: It would be nice to have debugging packages available as well
09:52.20florianneal: ok, then i'll create another mail alias :-)
09:53.00nealflorian: The downloads.maemo.org installer for gpe-calendar doesn't work for the 770
09:53.17nealflorian: I'd like to do a release
09:53.35nealflorian: But would like to have some minimal testing on maemo
09:53.42florianneal: right, the 770 application installer is known not to support this properly :-(
09:53.47nealflorian: Will you have time in the near future to build packages?
09:54.09nealflorian: Then the repo information should be made available.
09:54.10florianneal: yes, that should be possible - for releases always :-)
09:54.33nealit is completely insane that if I want a cell phone, I have to sign a two year contract to get a reasonable rate
09:54.49nealbut they can completely abandon the 770 after 18 months
09:55.04florianneal: yes, at this time we should take a little bit time and propagate this information so that it is clar for the users what to do to install the packages.
09:55.17nealif they want to replace my wife's 770 then I might consider the n800
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14:20.06Henkiei cannot find a decent mailclient, is there one available?
14:43.31florianHenkie: not really... on a device with vga screen you can use sylpheed.
14:44.05florianHenkie: It would be a good isea to create a tinymail-based one but noone is currently working on this.
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15:53.22Henkieflorian, too bad, sylpheed takes up way to much screen-space
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17:27.08robtaylorflorian: what about modest?
17:28.56florianrobtaylor: is it released to the public yet?
17:29.14florianibot_: change 185 GBP to EUR
17:29.59robtaylorflorian: hmm. it was. but it seems to have dissapeared from garage now
17:31.33florianrobtaylor: it was just public by accident when garage was opened to the public
17:32.27robtaylorah..
17:33.35robtaylorbloody nokia legal...
17:35.20robtaylorflorian: i wonder if it's never going to get out, or if legal are just takeing their sweet time.
17:36.10florianrobtaylor: i really don't know... i hope it does so... soon
17:36.22robtayloryeah :(
17:38.15robtaylormm .{UncorrectableError}
17:39.53robtaylorflorian: fd.o have a nice setup ;
17:39.55robtaylor;)
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17:45.11*** topic/#gpe is The GPE Palmtop Environment - http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/ | GPE Wiki: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/GpeProject | Development Manual (in progress): http://gpe.linuxtogo.org/documentation/devmanual/ | New mailinglist: http://linuxtogo.org/mailman/listinfo/gpe-list | little daughter is http://gpephone.linuxtogo.org
17:45.26robtaylorflorian: according to cpuinfo, annarchy has 3 model name      : AMD Opteron(tm) Processor 270
17:49.38robtaylor4 gigs ram
17:50.16robtaylordunno about drives.. seems to be ide and their using devmapper
17:50.57robtaylorflorian: aha:
17:50.58robtaylorhttp://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/MachineOverview
17:52.11robtaylorflorian: kemper and annarchy are the nice new ones (donated by google. i hear)
17:53.48florianrobtaylor: that looks good indeed... in fact i vote for an IBM 8677 and some machines to fill it.
17:54.13robtaylorflorian: sounds good :)
17:58.35robtaylorflorian: dont forget a decent ups
17:59.37robtaylorflorian: and some sort of backup )
18:00.23florianrobtaylor: unlikely to get any of these... we are currently discussing about the power consumption :-/
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19:13.27Sleep_Walkergreetings
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19:25.17Sleep_Walkerhow difficult can be creating application which will display or hide black rectangle under GPE panel?
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20:08.49mimecarhi
20:13.21mccarthyneal you around?
20:13.38mimecarwhat ?
20:30.16mccarthyneal, your new error handling stuff has broken gpesyncd
20:30.44mccarthyI managed to get it to compile, but I am not positive that my changes are correct (so I have not committed my changes to svn yet)
20:31.09mccarthyit was only about 8 or so function calls that are modified so it should not be hard to fix it correctly
20:31.36mccarthy(I wonder if filing a bugzilla or committing my changes is best ...)
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21:21.34nealmccarthy : Right, I have not updated gpesyncd yet
21:21.49nealmccarthy : If you put a patch online, I can comment on it.
21:22.07nealmccarthy : You definately should set up an error handler
21:22.45nealmccarthy : As for your question from yesterday, why do you care about EDS?
21:22.57nealwhat do you think it buys us?
21:24.48Sleep_Walkerhow difficult can be creating application which will display or hide black rectangle under GPE panel?
21:25.03mccarthyI do not care, specifically about eds. I was simply comparing gpe-calendar to openedhand's dates (which apparently is the starting point (or even finishing point) of the openmoko calendar)
21:25.37mccarthyI was not sure if EDS would buy us anything in terms of syncing, portability, etc.
21:26.01nealit should not be hard to get libeventdb properly syncing with opensync
21:26.03mccarthyfor example, if we use eds then we could use the evolution plugins for syncing rather than making a new one
21:26.06nealin fact, I've already written the code
21:26.15nealbut it requires that libeventdb be linked against sqlite3
21:26.22nealwhich florian does not want to do until after a release
21:26.38mccarthyhmm
21:26.55mccarthyas for my changes to gpesyncd, I am not sure that they are even worth a patch
21:27.22mccarthythere was some (rudimentary?) error handling in gpesyncd already, so error was a defined variable
21:27.41nealI don't understand what you mean.
21:27.41mccarthyI simply added it to the variable-pass list where necessary (based on your changes)
21:27.55nealsure but the theory is to handle the changes.
21:28.20mccarthyneal, sure, but for now I was just trying to get it to build so that I could try to get OE to make me a new image ;)
21:28.23nealso you need to connect to the EventDB's  "error" signal
21:28.28nealand then do something
21:28.35nealor catch errors in the right place
21:28.43mccarthyneal, neither of which I did.
21:28.43nealok.
21:29.00nealI'll check something in tomorrow morning.
21:29.03mccarthyI was mostly just making sure that you knew that your eventDB changes negatively affected compiling gpesyncd
21:29.26nealsure.
21:29.36mccarthy(like I said aboe, filing a bugzilla was probably a better option than uploading my half-assed changes)
21:30.07mccarthyhow much of a migration would be the change to sqlite3?
21:30.46mccarthywould we have to rebuild existing dbs? or could we put magic in the code that would notice old dbs and convert on-the-fly?
21:31.15mccarthyand what exactly was florian meaning by "release"?
21:31.21mccarthyrelease of gpe-calendar? or GPE?
21:31.52mccarthyI already mentioned to koen that I agree with you, BTW< about not being able to reproduce his bug
21:35.13nealI almost have code to convert on the fly
21:35.19nealgpe-calendar
21:35.23nealI'm off for the evening
21:35.25neallater.
21:35.49mccarthysee ya
21:36.35mccarthyBTW, I used to use a db table to store a "version" number for the db. I have no idea if this would be useful for the conversion...
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22:13.15mimecarhi florian
22:13.31florianre
22:53.58CoreDump|homehi
22:55.40florianhi CoreDump|home
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23:09.47floriangood night
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