| 00:00.59 | zoot | You at Otago? |
| 00:01.09 | zoot | (university of) |
| 00:01.13 | fng_sma | Yes. Have you been there? |
| 00:01.29 | zoot | no, but i know (vaguely) one of the CS professors |
| 00:01.42 | zoot | guy called Stephen Crainefield |
| 00:02.00 | fng_sma | Erm... don't know him yet, I think, but wait. |
| 00:02.36 | zoot | I've only met him a couple of times, but he came and gave a talk in bath last year. |
| 00:03.01 | fng_sma | Couldn't see him on the picture wall, but it is pretty outdated. |
| 00:03.10 | zoot | http://www.commerce.otago.ac.nz/infosci/People/Staff/staff.htm?user=scranefield |
| 00:03.24 | zoot | anyway, its a small world, especially in New Zealand |
| 00:04.08 | fng_sma | oh yes it is, and a huge bunch of Germans are here. A third of the international students are from the states (obviously) and another one from Germany. |
| 00:04.27 | fng_sma | No, I haven't yet met him. Maybe he has to travel around a lot :-) |
| 00:04.42 | zoot | he is probably in japan at a conference at the moment, so yes... |
| 00:05.10 | zoot | Yes, he was trying to sell the outreach funding program thingy when he was here. |
| 00:06.21 | fng_sma | outreach funding? What is that about? |
| 00:06.45 | zoot | The NZ govornment is doing a lot of things to get International researchers and students to go to NZ |
| 00:07.15 | zoot | like removing barriers to student funding for international students. |
| 00:07.43 | zoot | their academic system is almost identical to ours, except they have modernised more |
| 00:08.34 | fng_sma | Well, as for computer science, they are having really cool papers down here. Especially for vision and ai. |
| 00:09.19 | fng_sma | I'm doing a ai paper and the first assignment was to build a trail laying lego robot. And now we simulate flock of birds. Makes a lot of fun. |
| 00:10.09 | zoot | sounds cool |
| 00:10.29 | zoot | are you Undergrad or Postgrad ? |
| 00:11.38 | fng_sma | In germany I'm a fourth year math major, but I'm not doing a bachelor or master degree, it's an old German "diplom". So I'm rather a postgrad than a undergrad. |
| 00:11.45 | fng_sma | What about you? |
| 00:12.22 | zoot | Ph.D. (allegedly) finishing my thesis ;-) |
| 00:12.56 | fng_sma | oh well, not too bad :), or "sweet as" as they would say here. |
| 00:14.10 | fng_sma | In what are you (allegedly) doing your research? |
| 00:15.08 | fng_sma | !seen neal |
| 00:15.23 | fng_sma | ~!seen neal |
| 00:15.39 | fng_sma | ah, do you remember how the command is? |
| 00:16.04 | zoot | \msg nickserve seen foo |
| 00:16.12 | zoot | nope |
| 00:16.32 | fng_sma | oh well... |
| 00:21.10 | giacus | G'night all |
| 00:21.17 | fng_sma | Sleep well giacus. |
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| 00:28.32 | fng_sma | I sometimes don't really like gobjects... |
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| 00:50.47 | zoot | anyway night! |
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| 10:22.13 | pb_ | morning all |
| 10:22.22 | pb_ | hm, I wonder what florian meant about the event dialog |
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| 11:05.46 | CoreDump|home | morning |
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| 12:28.24 | giacus | hello |
| 12:29.02 | giacus | I'm having an issue running minicom in debian to transfer image file: |
| 12:29.16 | giacus | boot> AT S7=45 S0=0 L1 V1 X4 &c1 E1 Q0 |
| 12:29.18 | giacus | Don't understand command AT |
| 12:29.25 | giacus | any idea ? |
| 12:30.15 | giacus | bootldr is 2.21.12, pda is 3970 |
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| 12:56.09 | neal | florian: Where are the maemo build rules for gpe? |
| 12:56.22 | neal | e.g. so I can make .debs |
| 12:58.00 | neal | hmm, he is not even here |
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| 13:25.39 | pb_ | florian: good afternoon |
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| 13:26.55 | florian | hi all |
| 13:27.18 | pb_ | florian: I didn't understand your comment yesterday about the event dialog |
| 13:27.37 | pb_ | <florian> pb__: the event dialog is tricky |
| 13:27.38 | pb_ | that one |
| 13:28.16 | florian | pb_: ah, the one of gpe-calendar. its hard to make it smaller. |
| 13:28.27 | pb_ | ah |
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| 13:28.36 | pb_ | is it still too big even with the new libgpewidget? |
| 13:29.22 | florian | not sure... right. maybe i'm outdated... let me try |
| 13:30.42 | pb_ | you need 0.111, or the HEAD |
| 13:35.35 | florian | hrm... look like this machine lacks some more updates... i should spend more time at home :-) |
| 13:35.46 | pb_ | heh |
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| 13:37.17 | florian | hi _law_|iBook |
| 13:37.31 | _law_|iBook | hi florian |
| 13:38.55 | florian | I managed to build lua-gtk last night... that might be fun for hacking with only a pda available :-) |
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| 13:47.12 | florian | pb_: you are right, that's much better - i'll try on some ipaq. |
| 13:51.53 | florian | gah stupid h5550 |
| 14:05.45 | florian | pb_: good but still not perfect - http://handhelds.org/scap/port.25693.png |
| 14:09.15 | koen | florian: what about putting the 15 and 53 in one box? |
| 14:09.23 | koen | florian: like [15:53] |
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| 14:12.47 | pb_ | florian: hm, right, maybe the width of the GtkEntry widgets needs to be reduced even further |
| 14:12.52 | pb_ | could you try changing that in the theme? |
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| 14:14.45 | neal | florian: Can't you reduce the width required by the hour and minutes using gtk_entry_set_width_chars |
| 14:19.26 | florian | hmm yes, that might be a clever idea. |
| 14:21.43 | florian | let me try |
| 14:27.32 | pb_ | bbiab, going to do a bit of shopping |
| 14:28.26 | florian | pb_: later |
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| 14:30.20 | florian | hi lolita__ |
| 14:31.56 | lolita__ | hi florian how are you? |
| 14:33.20 | florian | lolita__: pretty good... busy as always but i have some time for gpe hacking today. |
| 14:34.08 | lolita__ | florian: ... ah yeah ... didn't do anything for gpe for a long time now |
| 14:34.27 | lolita__ | currently i'm on some kinda php hacking for creating nicer apache directory listings |
| 14:35.00 | lolita__ | ... now we are so far, that i can create pdf, and certain source file previews ;) its kinda nice but ... to buggy for a first release |
| 14:35.50 | florian | lolita__: uh php |
| 14:37.12 | florian | here it *sounds* like i should spend some time with Jonas :-) |
| 14:37.26 | lolita__ | hehe ;) |
| 14:37.45 | florian | pb_, neal: almost... a few pixels are mising now. and i know how to get them :-) |
| 14:37.51 | lolita__ | ja i know stupid php ... but its just so easy going coding ... |
| 14:38.24 | florian | lolita__: i know, most more complex web stuff is php - there must be a reason. |
| 14:39.21 | lolita__ | jep florian people are getting their hands on very easy and then projects are growing and then its to late to switch to a real programming language |
| 14:42.04 | florian | i want to find out how lua performa on the pdas, but the bb for it will be nasty. |
| 14:44.15 | florian | eh performs |
| 14:44.36 | koen | florian: you could embed the lua engine in libgpewidget |
| 14:44.45 | koen | iirc it's about ~40kB |
| 14:47.04 | florian | maybe some time if it performs well. so far i need to fight gtk-lua's configure script first. (where configure is a handcrafted script) |
| 14:53.56 | florian | who else has admin permissions for hh.org geeklog? |
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| 15:10.52 | enodr | hi |
| 15:11.11 | enodr | I have a question about kdrive Xserver. |
| 15:11.52 | enodr | I want to launch the Xserver without loading GPE. I can use Xfbdev but then I need to figure how to run a simple terminal |
| 15:15.29 | zecke | enodr: .xinitrc? |
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| 15:16.10 | enodr | I guess .xinitrc is used by xinit, but no xinit with Kdrive |
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| 15:31.44 | florian | hmm... what reads and executes the stuff from our /etc/X11/Xinit.d? |
| 15:32.25 | florian | enodr: i guess you want the xserver-common package |
| 15:32.54 | florian | that one has the scripts and tools to fire up X on various devices |
| 15:34.46 | enodr | florian: I looked at it, but could not find what to run... well I am doing some tests and it seems that making a simple script like: "Xfbserver & \n export DISPLAY=:0.0 \n exec rxvt" is fine |
| 15:36.44 | florian | it fits |
| 15:37.49 | florian | neal: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.4998.png |
| 15:40.11 | pb_ | rock! |
| 15:40.13 | pb_ | all hail florian |
| 15:40.52 | florian | pb_: wb :-) |
| 15:41.03 | florian | bbr, food |
| 15:41.04 | pb_ | ah, I see, you shortened the text labels |
| 15:41.21 | florian | yes a little bit... |
| 15:41.29 | pb_ | I was always a bit scared to do that, since it might mean that users in other languages lose out |
| 15:41.49 | pb_ | does it fit in German, say? |
| 15:42.35 | pb_ | it looks like there's still quite some wasted space in those entry fields. I guess we should try to reclaim that. |
| 15:42.57 | florian | yes it should... packaging freed up some additional pixels |
| 15:43.23 | florian | but indeed, some languages might be problematic |
| 15:43.49 | pb_ | okay, cool |
| 15:44.02 | pb_ | well, making it fit in English is still a significant improvement :-) |
| 15:44.16 | florian | after lunch :-) |
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| 16:05.09 | florian | re |
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| 16:51.05 | giacus | minicom is driving me crazy :( |
| 16:51.32 | giacus | no way to get it properly working |
| 16:53.09 | koen | florian: keep in mind that the clearlooks theme isn't optimized yet for qvga |
| 16:53.25 | koen | florian: I did some quick fixes to get most of the stuff into shape |
| 17:00.57 | florian | koen: true, but its not too bad... with mbopus i could need some more free pixels. |
| 17:01.21 | koen | yeah, I removed all those fancy schmancy borders |
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| 17:22.22 | florian | bbl |
| 17:29.56 | giacus | mmm found that I've no sb in /usr/bin |
| 17:30.24 | giacus | should be in the minicom package ? |
| 17:32.30 | pb_ | no, it's in the lrzsz package |
| 17:32.57 | giacus | pb thanks |
| 17:34.43 | giacus | Ymodem sectors/kbytes sent: 392/49k |
| 17:34.57 | giacus | nice, working ;) ty |
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| 17:38.10 | giacus | sending bootgpe-v0.8.4-rc2-h3900.jffs2 |
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| 18:08.38 | pb_ | florian: I uploaded libgpewidget 0.112 with your change. |
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| 18:23.34 | reenoo | evening |
| 18:46.54 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 18:47.35 | pb_ | would you add libgpewidget 0.112 to 0.8.4? It seems to (mostly) fix the qvga layout problem with the gpe-calendar event dialog. |
| 18:48.42 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 18:50.05 | reenoo | would you mind filing a bug for that (and the other things I forgot about...). I'm working on something else right now. |
| 18:50.14 | pb_ | will do |
| 18:50.19 | reenoo | thanks |
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