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| 03:10.58 | Readon | i want to try GPE, but how to setup my environment about GTK/X ? |
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| 09:48.47 | neal | morning florian. |
| 09:49.00 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:50.43 | pb_ | hi florian_kc |
| 09:50.44 | pb_ | hi neal |
| 09:51.44 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for zecke: hail zecke. please change the tarball URI in xstroke_0.6.bb to http://people.freedesktop.org/~pb/xstroke-0.6.tar.gz |
| 09:52.17 | Readon | i want to try GPE, but how to setup my environment about GTK/X ? |
| 09:52.51 | florian_kc | Readon: What kind of device do you intend to use? |
| 09:53.45 | neal | pb, florian: I was thinking: when entering text for a date, it might be useful to automatically convert O's to 0 and l's to 1. This is a common mistake for us when using handwriting to enter new events. |
| 09:54.15 | Readon | embedded LCD controller with framebuffer |
| 09:54.30 | Readon | florian_kc: embedded LCD controller with framebuffer |
| 09:55.11 | florian_kc | neal: that's a nice idea! |
| 09:55.37 | neal | florian: I thought it might have been over engineering. |
| 09:55.49 | pb_ | neal: sounds like a good plan to me |
| 09:56.15 | florian_kc | Readon: that would depend on some details about that "lcd controller". |
| 09:56.52 | florian_kc | neal: i don't think so... its not too intrusive, doesn't bloat the whole thing too much and improves usability. |
| 09:58.17 | Readon | florian_kc: we have driver for it. And it support framebuffer as linux kernel did. |
| 10:00.19 | florian_kc | Readon: ah okay, then using kdrive should do the trick. |
| 10:00.21 | Readon | florian_kc: actually, i want to test gpe on our board both on GTKDirectFB, GTK/TinyX and GTK/NanoX. |
| 10:01.07 | florian_kc | Readon: i'm sure it won't work well with GTKDirectFB out of the box. |
| 10:01.20 | Readon | florian_kc: where do you get the copy or sources? |
| 10:01.57 | florian_kc | Readon: as long as are not really low of resources you want to ise tinyX/kdrive |
| 10:02.05 | Readon | florian_kc: it require X features? |
| 10:02.25 | florian_kc | Readon: handhelds.org/projects/gpe/sources |
| 10:02.49 | florian_kc | Readon: yes, we mack use of Xembed and some communication features. |
| 10:02.55 | florian_kc | s/mack/make |
| 10:03.42 | Readon | does nanoX support that? |
| 10:04.39 | florian_kc | Readon: not sure, but some feedback about if it works would be interesting. |
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| 10:05.04 | cedric__ | hi all |
| 10:05.49 | Readon | florian_kc: i think handhelds.org/projects/gpe/sources is not available |
| 10:06.24 | florian_kc | Readon: compiling all the bits gpe needs/consists of manually is a pain... maybe use OpenEmbedded. |
| 10:06.39 | florian_kc | hrm.. one sec |
| 10:06.52 | Readon | florian_kc: that would be interesting, it seems that nanox runs faster than tinyx:) |
| 10:06.57 | pb_ | source, not sources |
| 10:07.13 | pb_ | and I think you need ftp.handhelds.org |
| 10:07.35 | florian_kc | ah right, http doesn't work for that anymore |
| 10:07.40 | Readon | florian_kc: i think so, OpenEmbedded is also a sucks for me, because of the poor net |
| 10:07.49 | pb_ | http works fine, but you need "ftp.handhelds.org" as the hostname |
| 10:08.03 | florian_kc | pb_: okay |
| 10:08.39 | pb_ | just saying "handhelds.org" gets you h7, whereas those bits are on h2 |
| 10:10.01 | Readon | pb_, but those gcc bits cost me 1 day. at last, i gave up. |
| 10:10.20 | pb_ | Readon: sorry, I have no idea what you are talking about |
| 10:12.33 | Readon | pb_, bitbake takes me one day to get the gcc sources from gnu cvs. |
| 10:12.43 | pb_ | that is unfortunate |
| 10:12.57 | Readon | florian_kc: do you mean xserver-common tarball? |
| 10:13.09 | pb_ | I don't know why it would be getting them from cvs, though. I suppose you should complain to the folks in #oe. |
| 10:13.37 | Readon | but i can get tarball much faster through http proxy :) |
| 10:14.45 | florian_kc | Readon: Didn't want to download the GPE sources? |
| 10:15.52 | Readon | florian_kc: en, yes, i would download it all.:) |
| 10:18.03 | florian_kc | Readon: you might find out that there are multiple releases and you usually wnat the latest ones only. |
| 10:19.19 | Readon | florian_kc: sure |
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| 10:26.30 | florian_kc | Readon: xserver-common is a support package to bring up X only. |
| 10:34.35 | neal | pb, florian: What about vertically centering text in the day view? |
| 10:35.06 | koen | neal: for the description or title? |
| 10:35.20 | neal | koen: For the block of text as a whole |
| 10:38.38 | koen | neal: what about making it configurable? |
| 10:38.48 | florian_kc | neal: not sure, i guess its easier to read if it stays on top |
| 10:41.29 | pb_ | I don't really have any strong view on that. Making it configurable doesn't seem like a good idea, though: I don't think it's important enough to justify that sort of control. |
| 10:42.02 | pb_ | If you wanted to make it centered, I certainly wouldn't have an objection. |
| 10:42.13 | neal | for events that are only an hour long, the layout looks haphazard |
| 10:42.28 | neal | for long events, the control scrolls and then the top of the event goes out of view |
| 10:42.52 | florian_kc | hmm right, that's a reason |
| 10:43.23 | neal | also, we print the times in a <span size='normal'> but the descriptions in <span size='small'> |
| 10:46.37 | pb_ | grr, why isn't gtk-webcore in the familiar 0.8.2 source directory? |
| 10:47.14 | pb_ | ah, it is in 0.8.3 though |
| 10:47.32 | florian_kc | iirc the first release of gpe-mini-browser was after 0.8.2 |
| 10:47.49 | pb_ | oh right, fair enough |
| 10:48.11 | pb_ | I wish the .bb file used a tarfile rather than a sourceforge cvs checkout |
| 10:48.26 | koen | patches welcome |
| 10:48.27 | florian_kc | hrm... i broke libgpewidget or libgpepimc |
| 10:48.40 | pb_ | it's rather annoying that you can only compile during the 25% of the time when sourceforge's cvs servers are working |
| 10:48.41 | pb_ | oh well |
| 10:48.46 | florian_kc | sf cvs is never a good idea... |
| 10:50.15 | pb_ | looks like it's compiling now, anyway |
| 10:50.40 | florian_kc | that's a good idea... |
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| 11:24.46 | CoreDump|home | morning |
| 11:32.57 | florian_kc | hi CoreDump|home |
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| 12:52.54 | pb_ | ibot, botmail for zecke: hail zecke. please change the SRC_URI for osb-nrcore-0.5.0+cvs20050430 to use the tarball at http://familiar.handhelds.org/source/v0.8.3/NRCore_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050430.tar.gz rather than a checkout from the perpetually-broken sourceforge cvs, and likewise for osb-jscore-0.5.0+cvs20050430 to http://familiar.handhelds.org/source/v0.8.3/JavaScriptCore_cvs.sourceforge.net__20050430.tar.gz |
| 12:58.10 | florian_kc | hrm... cvs.handhelds.org is terribly slow again... |
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| 13:12.07 | Philippe | hi folks |
| 13:12.23 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 13:12.37 | Philippe | hi koen |
| 13:13.33 | eyck | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.03 | Philippe | pb_, of course there also are debian source packages for gtk-webcore at http://handhelds.org/~philippe/gpe-debian/sources/ |
| 13:14.23 | Philippe | eyck, philippa <- with "a" is a girls name... |
| 13:14.53 | eyck | hmm |
| 13:14.58 | Philippe | eyck, Philippe is the French way of writing it. |
| 13:15.00 | eyck | you might be right. |
| 13:15.22 | florian_kc | hi Philippe |
| 13:15.28 | Philippe | hi florian_kc |
| 13:15.47 | Philippe | You seem to have hacked a lot onlibgpewidget and libgpepimc recently... |
| 13:17.13 | florian_kc | yep... i'm just trying to sort out the last issues before i can check in full colour support for libgpepimc. |
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| 13:25.53 | florian_kc | hi zecke |
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| 14:43.09 | neal | as I was saying before, the descriptions are printed in a <span font_desc='small'> where as the times are printed in a 'normal'. Any reason to not print both in a small font? |
| 14:43.17 | neal | (or both in a large font) |
| 14:43.25 | neal | florian, pb: Any comments? |
| 14:44.44 | florian_kc | neal: let me see how it looks on a device with a high resolution screen. |
| 14:45.31 | neal | you mean you want a screen shot? |
| 14:47.41 | florian_kc | neal: no, i just want to compare the difference on a "critical" device here. |
| 14:48.55 | neal | ok. |
| 14:49.10 | neal | it's worth nothing that the week view and the month view use a normal font. |
| 14:49.19 | neal | s/nothing/noting/ |
| 14:50.19 | florian_kc | btw |
| 14:50.20 | florian_kc | http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/category-editor.png |
| 14:50.27 | florian_kc | (sorry for the size... |
| 14:51.56 | neal | not bad. |
| 14:51.58 | florian_kc | neal: hmm... maybe everything should use a small font. |
| 14:53.32 | florian_kc | koen: that screenshot might be wanted you wanted to see lately... |
| 14:53.55 | neal | why doesn't the theme take care of this? |
| 14:54.01 | neal | I mean, if eveything is small, what's the point? |
| 14:54.17 | neal | in that case, small simply means "normal" |
| 14:55.14 | florian_kc | neal: you are able to fit more text comparared to other applications. |
| 14:58.02 | koen | florian_kc: indeed |
| 15:02.50 | florian_kc | I need do do some more testing and fix a minor issue in libgpewidget before we can release this. |
| 15:07.58 | pb_ | neal: I think it'd probably be best for everything to use the normal font. Most folks seem to set the standard font size in the theme to the smallest size that they can comfortably read (to maximize the amount that fits on the screen), so I suspect that "small" will probably be undesirably small in a lot of cases. |
| 15:08.18 | neal | That's what I was thinking. |
| 15:08.34 | florian_kc | hmm... that might be true... |
| 15:08.35 | pb_ | It might make sense to use "small" for information that's truly unimportant, but I don't think you could really claim that about the description field in the calendar. |
| 15:08.35 | neal | although you articulated it a bit better. |
| 15:08.38 | neal | florian: Do you agree with this rationale? |
| 15:09.20 | florian_kc | neal: yes, that might be better... |
| 15:18.36 | florian_kc | bbl |
| 15:41.56 | rob_w | is there a pxa-2.6.16 bb file in dev or in oz354bla ? |
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| 15:49.28 | koen | rob_w: in .dev there is |
| 15:50.08 | rob_w | ok , good .. |
| 15:50.10 | rob_w | thanks |
| 15:52.30 | rob_w | i am trying to make diffs from our htc phones kernel cvs and the hh.org .. maybe i can manage to bring it into the hh.org directions |
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| 17:37.41 | mimecar | evening |
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| 18:18.07 | mimecar | hi mreimer & rob_w & eyck |
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| 19:10.32 | florian | re |
| 19:10.55 | mimecar | hey florian |
| 19:12.44 | pb_ | florian: good evening |
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| 21:29.06 | florian | Colour dialog: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7704.png |
| 21:29.26 | florian | Category editor: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7789.png |
| 21:29.44 | florian | Category list: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7853.png |
| 21:29.57 | mreimer | florian: nice! |
| 21:32.12 | florian | neal: I'll try to update the libgpepimc documentation... now. Do you want to do some magic for gpe-calendar? :-) |
| 21:36.52 | Philippe | florian, nice! |
| 21:37.23 | Philippe | btw is there a reason why the left-most and right most colour cube is smaller than the other ones on this one : http://handhelds.org/scap/port.7789.png? |
| 21:39.18 | florian | Philippe: the leftmost yes - it shows the current setting, the rightmost is a bug. |
| 21:40.32 | Philippe | ok! That explains a lot. It is a little bit unclear from a screenshot. |
| 21:40.53 | Philippe | I guess it is immediately clear when used. |
| 21:45.53 | florian | Philippe: yep.. but i need to change it anyway... its a little bit too big. |
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| 21:46.23 | Philippe | florian, keep up the work! It is really good! |
| 21:47.07 | florian | hrm... i found a way to make it segfault... |
| 21:47.42 | florian | fo far about my plan to work on gpe-conf today |
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| 22:32.33 | Philippe | night all |
| 22:35.22 | pb_ | florian: awesome |
| 22:35.33 | pb_ | (your screenshots, that is) |
| 22:36.20 | florian | Philippe: night |
| 22:36.41 | florian | pb_: i'll update them in a few minutes... |
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| 23:01.13 | florian | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18360.png |
| 23:01.24 | florian | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.18147.png |
| 23:01.30 | florian | that's better... |
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