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| 00:01.30 | koen | 'night all |
| 00:06.10 | florian | koen|sleep: goodnight |
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| 00:27.34 | florian | good night |
| 00:29.17 | reenoo | 'night florian |
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| 08:41.13 | Russ|iPAQ | werli? |
| 09:02.47 | rob_w-cgi | werli ?? |
| 09:09.52 | Russ|iPAQ | nope |
| 09:10.18 | Russ|iPAQ | thought the w was werli |
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| 09:15.43 | bizkut | allo |
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| 09:25.17 | johnX | I'm trying to ssh into my Zaurus and have it do X11 forwarding |
| 09:25.38 | johnX | for some reason xauth doesn't seem to want to make a ~/.Xauthority file |
| 09:26.56 | johnX | is there something non-standard about how xauth works in GPE? |
| 09:27.23 | XorA | johnX: works here |
| 09:27.44 | johnX | are you using dropbear for ssh or openssh? (on the zaurus side) |
| 09:29.56 | XorA | dropbear on Z side, openssh on FC4 side |
| 09:30.21 | hrw|work | morning |
| 09:30.22 | johnX | hmm...I installed openssh on the Z side, maybe I messed up my configuration |
| 09:30.30 | johnX | morning |
| 09:30.51 | XorA | johnX: did you enable X11Forwarding in the /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 09:31.15 | johnX | yeah |
| 09:33.16 | johnX | the thing is I have no .Xauthority in ~ on the Zaurus, and xauth doesn't seem to want to make one |
| 09:35.48 | bizkut | then create one |
| 09:37.46 | bizkut | maks |
| 09:38.53 | johnX | shouldn't ssh be using xauth to create one as part of setting up X forwarding, or am I confused? |
| 09:39.13 | XorA | johnX: no I think thats right |
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| 09:43.34 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:43.44 | XorA | florian_kc: morning |
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| 10:20.00 | johnX | ahaha |
| 10:20.04 | johnX | ok I found the problem |
| 10:20.17 | johnX | openssh appears to be looking for xauth in /usr/X11R6/bin/ |
| 10:20.58 | johnX | the /usr/X11R6 dir doesn't even exist on my Zaurus |
| 10:22.45 | hrw|work | we patched dropbear for it but only dropbear |
| 10:24.03 | johnX | I'll look at the openssh source and see if it's a simple fix |
| 10:25.35 | johnX | the configure for openssh has a --with-xauth=PATH |
| 10:27.06 | pb_ | oh right. yeah, openssh.bb should be patched to look in /usr/bin/ |
| 10:27.26 | pb_ | the whole /usr/X11R6 thing is an anachronism and should be abolished |
| 10:27.51 | johnX | I added "--with-xauth=/usr/bin/xauth" to it's .bb |
| 10:27.51 | XorA | especially with the advent of R7 :-) |
| 10:28.28 | johnX | I'll rebuild it and make sure that it works |
| 10:29.20 | pb_ | rock |
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| 11:01.45 | bedboi | hi there |
| 11:01.59 | johnX | hello |
| 11:02.49 | johnX | pb_: I tested it, and it works correctly now |
| 11:03.04 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 11:03.20 | johnX | pb_: Who would be able to add that change to the .bb for openssh? |
| 11:14.09 | florian_kc | johnX: I could do this... its only this config option to add? |
| 11:14.17 | johnX | yup |
| 11:14.52 | johnX | in EXTRA_OECONF |
| 11:18.38 | florian_kc | okay... let me try if it still builds ;-) |
| 11:18.58 | johnX | the more testing the better |
| 11:19.17 | johnX | I'd be pretty unhappy if the thing I was trying to fix fubarred it |
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| 16:35.07 | bizkut | allo |
| 16:35.24 | bizkut | mu taskbar gone! how can i enable it back? |
| 16:36.15 | florian_kc | bizkut: did you minimize it |
| 16:36.26 | florian_kc | ? |
| 16:36.45 | bizkut | florian_kc: i don't know i just tapping and it's gone |
| 16:37.08 | florian_kc | bizkut: maybe just log out and in again... |
| 16:37.10 | bizkut | i don't see any panel left |
| 16:37.57 | bizkut | is there anyway to log out? |
| 16:38.42 | florian_kc | hmm... if you are lucky you have the old task manager and are able to kill matchbox. |
| 16:38.46 | bizkut | i mean how |
| 16:39.13 | bizkut | oh, ok |
| 16:39.44 | bizkut | god! i lost my xkbd! |
| 16:41.22 | bizkut | yes i know. just define a new shortcut to buutons :) |
| 16:44.32 | bizkut | how to unwrap the lines on console? |
| 16:44.54 | bizkut | opie got it but not gpe |
| 16:46.56 | bizkut | so the panel manager actually crashed. Someone have to look at this. |
| 16:47.31 | florian_kc | bizkut: that's matchbox-panel, it might be a good idea to file a bug against it. |
| 16:48.21 | koen|sick | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.31041.png |
| 16:48.26 | bizkut | yes the matchbox-panel. Where is the config file? |
| 16:48.28 | koen|sick | doesn't that look pretty? |
| 16:50.00 | ||cw | that is pretty, what's it on? |
| 16:50.17 | koen|sick | hx4700 |
| 16:50.49 | florian_kc | koen|sick: yes indeed - for matchbox-keyboard we maybe choose the big icon on that big screens and that small one for the input manager on small ones too :-) |
| 16:51.07 | koen|sick | who needs an icon? |
| 16:51.23 | koen|sick | ~hail pb_ for libgtkinput |
| 16:51.24 | ibot | ACTION bows down to pb_ for libgtkinput and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 16:51.43 | florian_kc | And it looks like i need to tweak rendering of the minivol icon. |
| 16:51.49 | florian_kc | heh right |
| 16:52.14 | florian_kc | bizkut: somewhere in $HOME/.matchbox iirc |
| 16:53.03 | bizkut | koen are you sick? |
| 16:53.04 | bizkut | lol |
| 16:54.13 | florian_kc | koen|sick: We need to talk to mallum about fixing that composite stuff and releasing matchbox-keyboard. |
| 16:54.37 | moray | I prodded him about mb-keyboard a while back myself |
| 16:54.44 | moray | someone had prodded me about getting a Debian package |
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| 17:05.24 | bizkut | the cpu/mem monitor applet crashed on my 5450 |
| 17:06.10 | florian_kc | bizkut: i think thats a known issue... |
| 17:06.39 | bizkut | so any fix yet? |
| 17:07.47 | florian_kc | no idea |
| 17:08.47 | koen|sick | and on a h3870: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.644.png |
| 17:10.22 | pb_ | yah, the system monitor is busted. I did file a bug for that in the openedhand thing. |
| 17:10.42 | pb_ | mallum suggested that I try the svn version, which I haven't done yet. He didn't seem to think it would actually help though, so I haven't been in too much of a rush. |
| 17:12.04 | florian_kc | koen|sick: nice too... |
| 17:12.30 | koen|sick | it just sucks that enabling composite is broken |
| 17:12.46 | florian_kc | pb_: i could fire oe to build it... iirc we have that in oe already. |
| 17:12.58 | bizkut | do you guys look into gnome applet sources for the bugs? |
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| 17:17.23 | reenoo | evening |
| 17:17.30 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 17:17.45 | reenoo | hey florian_kc |
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| 17:22.53 | pb_ | florian_kc: that would be cool, if you don't mind |
| 17:24.45 | florian_kc | pb_: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/files/matchbox-panel_0.9cvs20051212-r0_arm.ipk |
| 17:25.56 | pb_ | rock |
| 17:26.10 | pb_ | my wireless network is still out of order, so I can't test it right now, but I will try it on my h3900 when I get home |
| 17:26.42 | pb_ | I've also ordered a new switch in hopes of repairing the wifi thing here at the office. |
| 17:29.06 | florian_kc | hrm... i should build a more up to date one |
| 17:32.01 | florian_kc | Do i really need to switch to unstable if i want to set SRCDATE!? |
| 17:34.30 | reenoo | I'm not sure I understand the question. SRCDATE doesn't (need to) exist in the release branch |
| 17:34.32 | florian_kc | pb_: that one is defintely not up to date, i'll try to sort out this later. |
| 17:35.04 | reenoo | florian_kc: you can set CVSDATE instead |
| 17:35.43 | florian_kc | reenoo: uh - i guess that's my problem... |
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| 17:48.50 | florian_kc | hi pH5 |
| 17:48.56 | pH5 | hi florian_kc |
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| 17:53.49 | poli | hello everyone |
| 17:54.35 | pH5 | hi poli |
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| 17:59.18 | law_ | hi |
| 17:59.34 | florian_kc | hi poli, hi law_ |
| 18:00.12 | pH5 | hi law_ |
| 18:19.25 | poli | hi law |
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| 18:29.06 | Varis | hello |
| 18:29.30 | Varis | I heard you can't have alarms on 770? |
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| 19:19.40 | france | greetings |
| 19:20.08 | reenoo | hey france |
| 19:20.15 | france | reenoo: hi |
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| 19:33.18 | pb__ | hi france |
| 19:34.21 | france | pb__: hi |
| 19:35.13 | france | pb__: I am currently playing catch up from a conference (incredable e-mail backlog). |
| 19:35.49 | pb__ | france: aha |
| 19:37.24 | france | pb__: going to spend the next few hours sorting out the kernel stuff. Of course, digging about around this issue, is bringing many others to the surface, which I is good and bad. |
| 19:37.58 | pb__ | france: okay, cool |
| 19:38.06 | pb__ | what is your plan of campaign? |
| 19:39.50 | france | pb__: we should probably move to #hhkernel, some folks were complaining that I was not solving this in the "open", but other than being on the "right" irc channel, I do not know how to be more "open". |
| 19:41.41 | Varis | bye |
| 19:41.48 | mreimer | hi guys. what kernel stuff are you talking about? sounds interesting |
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| 20:26.31 | france | mreimer: join us on #hhkerel |
| 20:26.39 | france | mreimer: and find out. :-D |
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| 22:08.03 | poli | I have found something interesting in calendar... If I add a Reminder, lets say to Mar 5, and click on time and fill in 20:00 (8 PM) and then save, exit calendar and reenter, when I select the event, it shows 20:00-20:00 as time, but when I edit it, the time field gets unchecked. Could someone please see if it is only me? |
| 22:09.23 | pb__ | poli: it seems to work ok for me |
| 22:09.30 | pb__ | you're editing it from the popup in the day view, right? |
| 22:09.39 | poli | pb__: Yes, right. |
| 22:10.12 | poli | pb__: It has happened at least 5 times now. |
| 22:10.26 | poli | pb__: And happens every time, so, not random. Has to be a "Reminder". |
| 22:11.34 | pb__ | ah, now I see it |
| 22:11.52 | pb__ | what actually happens is that the "Time" box gets left at the state it had for the last event you opened |
| 22:11.53 | johnX | me as well |
| 22:12.03 | pb__ | so, if you create a reminder, save it, and then immediately re-open that one, it looks ok |
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| 22:12.25 | mimecar | hi |
| 22:12.28 | pb__ | but if you create a reminder, save it, then either quit the calendar or open an untimed reminder, it will be wrong when you go back to the first one |
| 22:13.13 | poli | Ok, so I am not the only one. I like that. :) |
| 22:13.40 | johnX | if you set the time for reminder a to 20:00, then make reminder b with time 03:00, when you open reminder a its time will be 03:00 |
| 22:14.58 | pb__ | yeah, the reminder editing code is completely busted |
| 22:15.01 | poli | Ok, how should I report that? |
| 22:15.02 | pb__ | I'll check in a fix |
| 22:15.13 | pb__ | well, for "busted" read "missing" |
| 22:15.13 | pb__ | heh |
| 22:15.16 | poli | pb__: thank you :) |
| 22:22.59 | pb__ | okay, the patch is committed |
| 22:23.09 | pb__ | I'll release a new version sometime in the next few days |
| 22:23.20 | poli | impressive |
| 22:23.32 | pb__ | unless florian wants to do it sooner, in which case he's welcome to |
| 22:28.55 | poli | WOuld you know if #1491 affects all platforms, not just 770? |
| 22:29.01 | pb__ | I think it probably does. |
| 22:29.11 | pb__ | I was just thinking about that bug, actually. |
| 22:29.22 | poli | :) |
| 22:29.30 | pb__ | the recurrence code is all pretty hairy, unfortunately. It's probably not a trivial fix. |
| 22:29.55 | pb__ | I'll have a look at that tomorrow if I get time, otherwise later in the week. |
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| 22:41.13 | poli | pb__: just a curiosity: why does the "Reminder" option always show the entry above all others, and not in the time field that was filled? |
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| 22:41.28 | Varis | hi |
| 22:41.46 | poli | hello Varis |
| 22:42.06 | Varis | so anybody know of the 770 alarms issue? |
| 22:43.03 | pb_ | poli: I'm not sure. |
| 22:43.21 | pb_ | the technical answer is "because Luca implemented it that way", i.e. it's a deliberate choice rather than a bug as such. |
| 22:43.28 | pb_ | but I don't exactly know what his thinking was |
| 22:43.42 | poli | okay. lol :) |
| 22:44.25 | poli | What is Linux As Bootloader? |
| 22:44.48 | Varis | where? |
| 22:45.09 | poli | bug #1142 |
| 22:45.17 | Varis | oh |
| 22:45.55 | Varis | it's a software product? |
| 22:46.18 | poli | No idea. But I bet pb has the answer. :) |
| 22:46.33 | Varis | you know, I think grub and lilo are bootloaders |
| 22:46.39 | Varis | but it could be just linux, too |
| 22:47.20 | mreimer | LAB is a linux kernel acting as a bootloader. It's used to load kernels from devices it's configured for and boot them. h2200 uses it to boot from MMC/SD, internal flash, and CF. |
| 22:48.13 | Varis | is there a list of devices GPE works on? |
| 22:48.55 | poli | The list of devices supported by hh.org can be found on the left menu of the wiki |
| 22:53.43 | Varis | it seems the usage concentrates on select few platforms |
| 22:54.06 | Varis | while development is quite a challenge on many others |
| 22:56.44 | poli | Just as another curiosity, what is the best ebook format/reader in your opinion? |
| 22:56.47 | Varis | is there statistics on how many non-phone handhelds have been sold? |
| 22:57.19 | Varis | mm, mozilla and acrobat are good for me :D |
| 22:57.36 | Varis | I prefer mozilla though |
| 22:57.45 | poli | on familiar? |
| 22:57.53 | Varis | never used familiar |
| 22:58.31 | Varis | can't really say on mobile browsers |
| 22:58.47 | Varis | ebooks should be pretty simple basic html anyway |
| 22:59.27 | Varis | never read an ebook to be honest |
| 22:59.30 | poli | Take a look at gutenberg.org and manybooks.net |
| 22:59.55 | Varis | something I can try on the 770? |
| 23:00.07 | poli | probably |
| 23:00.26 | Varis | so ebooks are a killer application? |
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| 23:07.21 | Varis | any other good formats than .txt? |
| 23:07.46 | poli | well, depends on where you are reading them, really. |
| 23:08.01 | Varis | 770 |
| 23:08.17 | poli | 770 should have a version of plucker installed. |
| 23:08.23 | poli | Plucker might be a good option. |
| 23:08.28 | poli | Or just plain old PDF |
| 23:09.04 | Varis | which format would look nice... just for trying it out? |
| 23:09.27 | poli | I was going to download some and test them right now, to tell you the truth. |
| 23:10.02 | Varis | I got Kalevala already |
| 23:10.05 | Varis | but it was .txt |
| 23:10.51 | Varis | mmmm, they don't have On Liberty at gutenberg :-. |
| 23:11.40 | Varis | which devices you use? |
| 23:11.55 | poli | hx4700 |
| 23:12.17 | Varis | how new is that |
| 23:12.50 | Varis | oo ther's works by Aristotle |
| 23:13.48 | poli | many very good works |
| 23:13.55 | poli | 17 thousend of them |
| 23:14.56 | poli | Well, bbl. |
| 23:15.00 | Varis | have fun |
| 23:16.58 | Varis | hmm critique of the legal system in novel format, this literature is not that outdated |
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