| 00:01.02 | CSMan | i'd like to get init messages on boot, how can i get them? |
| 00:03.43 | pH5 | console=tty0 as kernel param and remove VERBOSE=no from /etc/default/rcS, AFAIK |
| 00:04.46 | CSMan | that kernel param goes in lilo? |
| 00:05.19 | pH5 | CSMan: whatever bootloader you use |
| 00:05.36 | CSMan | k, i thought i was using lilo =P |
| 00:20.46 | CSMan | hi Philippe |
| 00:20.55 | Philippe | hi CSMan |
| 00:21.43 | CSMan | uhmm, in gpe-mini-browser, when i tap on the space bar, the page will scroll despite the cursor has focus on an input field =P |
| 00:22.42 | Philippe | mhh, I did not know space would scroll the page.... |
| 00:23.39 | CSMan | that's the last resource when you have no scrollbars. Actually it happened with minimo in familiar 0.8.2 (no scroll bars) |
| 00:24.27 | CSMan | another thing i noticed is that the elements don't hover when i pass the pointer over them , although it does work when i run it X forwarded to my desktop |
| 00:24.48 | Philippe | CSMan, seems you are right. I wonder what makes it jump like that... |
| 00:25.13 | CSMan | i think is because the v-keyboard has precedence |
| 00:25.40 | CSMan | it should happen only when the focus is not in any input field |
| 00:26.17 | CSMan | i wish i could get an environment to work on the code, but it seems i'm not good enough even to set it up =( |
| 00:26.50 | CSMan | maybe it's a barrier to keep me away from breaking more code =P |
| 00:26.51 | Philippe | CSMan, you can try out most of the stuff natively (no need to cross-compile) |
| 00:27.20 | CSMan | Philippe: how can i build natively? i tried using NFS mounts but it is slowww |
| 00:27.30 | CSMan | i barely managed to compile a couple of modules |
| 00:28.21 | Philippe | what I mean is you can develop the app just as you would with any other "normal" pc app. |
| 00:28.51 | Philippe | When it seems to work as intended you very if it on target (or let somebody else do that ) |
| 00:28.54 | CSMan | ah, you mean run it on my box first |
| 00:30.19 | Philippe | yep |
| 00:30.50 | Philippe | That is how I do it. However you have to be careful about what functions you use and how you allocate memory. |
| 00:31.27 | CSMan | are there any hot tricks on mem alloc ? |
| 00:31.42 | Philippe | Just to avoid it runs sluggish on a real device. And I test the interface in an Xnest (240x320) to see if it fists |
| 00:31.59 | CSMan | or just common sense to make everything fit in the least space possible |
| 00:32.16 | CSMan | Xnest ? |
| 00:32.29 | Philippe | CSMan, avoid memory allocs (especially big chunks) unless you really need them, and if you allocate something make sure you free it. |
| 00:32.35 | CSMan | yeah, i have it. |
| 00:32.36 | CSMan | =D |
| 00:32.58 | CSMan | now i can run even better forwarded apps =P |
| 00:56.34 | CSMan | is gpe-soundserver a fork of alsa|esound? |
| 00:56.54 | Philippe | CSMan, no clue sorry |
| 00:57.16 | CSMan | i ask because the 0.8.3 snapshot doesn't have any media player |
| 00:58.26 | Philippe | CSMan, gpe-nmf is so badly broken we decided not to ship it anymore. Somebody is working on gpe-amp which should replace it. |
| 01:00.01 | CSMan | so far i tried vlc-gpe which wasn't too bad |
| 01:00.16 | CSMan | just the sound got chunky in intervals |
| 01:00.43 | CSMan | ehem, i tried mplayer also but it wasn't good at all |
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| 01:58.02 | CSMan | i don't seem to have control over volume using sound setup |
| 02:08.21 | CSMan | Philippe: how can i startup an Xnest with a shell in it ? |
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| 02:35.37 | CSMan | do you guys know if the absence of an FPU in the arm arch will make hard for the PDA to playback multimedia content? |
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| 10:00.28 | _law_ | hi |
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| 12:18.32 | reenoo | morning |
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| 13:33.49 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 13:33.51 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 13:34.05 | koen | hey reenoo & pb_ |
| 13:34.44 | pb_ | hi all |
| 13:34.45 | _law_ | hi |
| 13:34.51 | koen | hey _law_ |
| 13:37.22 | _law_ | found mb-applet-system-monitor bug |
| 13:37.31 | _law_ | its an kernel 2.6 problem |
| 13:37.35 | koen | for the memory display? |
| 13:37.48 | _law_ | /proc/meminfo is different |
| 13:37.52 | _law_ | koen: yes |
| 13:37.55 | koen | ah yes |
| 13:38.03 | koen | I had the same problem with my rrd scripts |
| 13:38.19 | _law_ | so you have got an fix? |
| 13:39.49 | _law_ | koen: if you want test matchbox-panel with correct wifi applet http://helmsdeep.homelinux.net/~pat/matchbox-panel/ :-) |
| 13:40.06 | _law_ | dont know if it works without hostap :-) |
| 13:40.22 | koen | I only have hostap cards :) |
| 13:40.33 | koen | the perl script for meminfo: http://pastebin.com/468942 |
| 13:41.30 | koen | that generates something like this: http://dominion.kabel.utwente.nl/rrd/graph/meminfo_7200.png |
| 13:44.38 | _law_ | okay thanks will try it later |
| 13:45.20 | koen | If think memused = MemTotal - MemFree - Cached |
| 13:45.40 | koen | not sure if you can subtract 'Buffers' too |
| 14:00.26 | pb_ | night all |
| 14:00.49 | reenoo | 'night pb_ |
| 14:02.38 | reenoo | heh |
| 14:02.43 | reenoo | http://software.newsforge.com/software/05/11/21/175249.shtml?tid=92&tid=78 |
| 14:05.30 | reenoo | (that would cause the average wireless user to freak out here) |
| 14:06.45 | _law_ | a profile based network manager would be nice |
| 14:07.06 | _law_ | profile home | work | bar | wardrive.... |
| 14:11.45 | reenoo | add appropriate entries to /etc/network/interfaces and add some autodetection script or ifup/down the interface with the profile you want |
| 14:12.19 | reenoo | could even use gpe-conf for the first part |
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| 17:37.01 | mimecar | hi |
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| 17:40.33 | CSMan | uhmm... after trying to adjust the volume the sound module died |
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| 22:12.37 | CSMan | i was in the middle of playing back some music and suddenly the ipaq froze |
| 22:13.34 | CSMan | i had to put it in the cradle, i had like 40% energy left , not really sure if it was a power issue or a kernel panic |
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