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00:00.18jake_I downloaded pre-compiled one..
00:00.32jake_3.2.2 if I remember correctly.
00:00.42jake_propably a link @ your site..
00:02.06jake_booting new kernel now, just to make sure that it doesn't support mmc v4.. hmm..
00:02.22jake_My kernel propably doesn't work..
00:02.41jake_zImage was generated..
00:03.03jake_should I maybe had used Image instead of zImage..
00:03.49lamikrOk... I am not myself currently working with SD cards, but there is another one investigating SD support. So there are changes that it will start working soon. In addition Tony Lindegren said that SD should work on h2 and h4 omap boards. Our h6300 code is based on to omap code so there is propably only a very little missing...
00:04.17koen'night all
00:04.30lamikrgood night.
00:04.45jake_Just copied Image to mmc card..
00:05.27jake_hmm..
00:05.35jake_removed battery from my h6340..
00:05.39jake_It refused to start..
00:06.30jake_Now it starts again..
00:06.37jake_nope..
00:06.52jake_strange behaviour..
00:07.30lamikrjake: You need to hard reset it.
00:07.41jake_I did hard rest it.
00:07.44jake_Didn't help
00:07.52jake_But I removed bat for couple of minutes..
00:07.57lamikrSo does wince fail to load?
00:08.00jake_so internal battery went to zero..
00:08.07jake_no, bootloader didn't load.
00:08.13jake_but now it works..
00:09.03lamikrI need to go to sleep now, but let's keep in touch. Do you know my email?
00:09.13jake_Yeah. Well, thanks anyway.
00:09.14jake_hey
00:09.19lamikrgoodnight.
00:09.34jake_my image booted, althought it wasn't able to mount root ;)
00:10.00lamikrSo compilation works. btw, branches/bt_kernel contains the latest code!
00:10.14lamikr2.6.14-rc5 based.
00:10.36jake_yeah, well that ain't helping me. I need support for MMC v4.0 aka MMC plus.
00:10.40jake_good night.
00:10.47lamikrYes, good night.
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00:27.22philippegrrr, replaced the old toolbar api with the new one in gpe-timesheet and now the task list does not render correctly anymore ???
00:50.01philippegoodnight all
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07:33.06_law_hey shiyee
07:33.13_law_i have some gaim problems
07:33.16shiyeemorning _law_
07:33.45_law_if i try to build with audio support i get an error in network.c:140
07:34.05_law_<PROTECTED>
07:34.25_law_i have tried latest gaim-cvs version also
07:34.52_law_shiyee, any ideas? esd support would be very nice
07:36.05shiyeesounds very strange...
07:36.51_law_shiyee, i know :-)
07:37.17shiyeei'll just submit a bug-report about it, so it wont get lost :-)
07:38.20_law_shiyee, could it be an gcc (arm) bug?
07:38.30_law_internal compiler error: in arm_print_operand, at config/arm/arm.c:9887
07:38.49shiyeeit definitely looks like that g_snprintf is misbehaving somehow
07:40.31shiyeeand the fact that a network function misbehaves, because of added sound support indicates that it might be some mis-aligned mumbo-jumbo or similar
07:42.31_law_shiyee, i?ll try to build 1.5. with sound
07:42.45shiyeeokay
07:45.59shiyee_law_: can you confirm that the offending line is "g_snprintf(ip, 16, "%lu.%lu.%lu.%lu",....." ?
07:47.35_law_shiyee, yes
07:49.08_law_shiyee, did you read the notes on #gaim?
07:50.03shiyee_law_: yes
07:50.16shiyee_law_: submitted the bug as http://www.handhelds.org/~bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=1422
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08:00.08florian_hrzgood morning
08:00.10_law_shiyee, same problem with 1.5
08:00.19shiyeemorn florian_hrz
08:00.27_law_do you habe gcc 4 installed?
08:00.35_law_s/habe/have
08:00.41shiyee_law_: no, currently rebuilding my OE
08:00.57_law_with gcc 4? :-)
08:01.13shiyeehehe, maybe
08:01.43shiyeeits worth a shot, but i'm not sure about how it will behave with regards to things compiled with different gcc versions
08:04.40shiyeeis openembedded.org down?
08:05.15florian_hrzoe.handhelds.org worked yesterday...
08:05.58shiyeedoes too now, bu openembedded.org times out
08:06.41shiyeebut nm, found the link otherwhere
08:32.39XorAmorning
08:33.21_law_hey XorA
08:35.09_law_XorA, i have got the same abiword problem as koen
08:45.52XorA_law_: which problem?
08:54.44_law_XorA, this one http://pastebin.com/421519 :-)
08:56.30XorAnew one on me, do you have Vera fonts or dejavu? does it happen when you go italic?
08:57.58XorA_law_: totally unhelpful but abiword works here
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09:02.17_law_XorA, it happens if i start abiword, the screen appears for 1 second,than it crashs
09:02.47_law_XorA, are there any startup arguments? do use spezial font
09:02.48XorA_law_: wierd, abiword been running here for months without probs, wonder if there is a newer version
09:03.27_law_XorA, i use the latest version 2.4.1
09:03.36XorA_law_: its possible I do not :-)
09:03.59_law_older versions also work for me, i think :-)
09:04.01XorA_law_: I just lost me ipkg status files so I need to discover what last one I compiled was
09:04.59XorA_law_: ah, I had 2.4.0, that'll explain it
09:05.08XorA_law_: oh well, looks like abiword new bug then
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09:08.27florian_hrzhi koen
09:08.47_law_XorA, abiword oe version bug or abiword bug? :-)
09:08.55_law_hi koen
09:09.36koengood morning all
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09:17.01XorA_law_: not that will require someone debugging it
09:17.11XorAs/not/now/
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09:39.49bedboihi there
09:43.18florian_hrzhey bedboi
09:43.24bedboihi florian
09:43.45bedboiflorian_hrz: have you worked with the xml parser shipped with glib ?
09:45.53florian_hrzbedboi: hmm.. no, not yet ;-)
09:47.01bedboithere's some code in gpe-contacts
09:47.04bedboibtw http://pastebin.com/421551
09:47.10bedboiit doesn't work
09:47.22bedboiat least the start_element callback isn't called
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09:55.20florian_hrzhmm... need to take a closer look later.
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10:09.09florian_hrzbbl
10:15.12bedboistupid me it was not in UTF-8
10:27.49bedboidoesn't work
10:30.18_law_XorA, perhabs i can do that debugging
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11:15.58florian_kcre
11:16.12koenflorian_kc: wb
11:19.12bedboihey koen, florian_kc
11:19.21bedboistill no luck with the xml parser
11:19.24bedboii hate that
11:19.26koenhey bedboi
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11:52.37_law_gdb doesnt find any abiword debugging symbols, but i can post an strace, does this help?
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11:57.04florian_kchi mallum
11:57.15mallumhey florian_kc , hows it going ?
11:57.58florian_kcmallum: Like all the time - days are too short, but apart from this i'm fine!
11:58.31florian_kcmallum: But you seem to be pretty busy too... haven't seen you for a while.
11:59.47mallumflorian_kc: yeah just avoiding irc I guess :/
12:00.48florian_kcmallum: ah... we don't bite ;-)
12:10.27koenflorian_kc: I just added a patch to .dev which should fix fonts on high dpi devices
12:10.55florian_kckoen: cool, will try this...
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12:15.31florian_kckoen: We have one problem with this then: This setting won't affect gpe-login... and yes, it will break on the 770.
12:15.57koenthe big font in gpe-login isn't a big problem
12:16.06koeni.e it doesn't hake stuff unreadable
12:17.07florian_kckoen: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/nokia770/experimental/gpe-image-nokia770-20051107165915.rootfs.jffs2
12:17.36florian_kckoen: I patched this to 160 dpi, try to guess what will happen with 220-...
12:17.58koenHUGE ASS FONTS TO GO
12:18.09koento paraphrase a sign I encountered on holidays
12:18.36florian_kckoen: its worse... can you imagine how xkbd looks like if you shrink it?
12:18.47koenheh
12:24.55florian_kckoen: http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/nokia770/experimental/gpe-image-nokia770-20051107165915.rootfs.jffs2
12:25.16florian_kckoen: oops... http://handhelds.org/scap/port.25025.png
12:26.03koennow you get what I mean with 'gpe should have big dpi screens better'
12:26.44koens/have/handle/
12:28.24florian_kcThat issue hits us everywhere font sizes are defined... matchbox and gtk theme e.g.
12:29.33koenmatchbox still uses pixels instead of points for the panel
12:30.46koenso you get really tiny text there
12:32.41florian_kcyeah... and everything rendered with pango is too big.
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12:41.34flo_770okay... works with gpe :-)
12:45.24bedboicool
12:47.12florian_kcAnd much more free space in the filesystem :-)
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13:08.31florian_kchrm... xkbd kills Xomap :-/
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13:24.58florian_kchi TyggerBob
13:24.58TyggerBobAnyone have Koen's personal feed URL handy?
13:24.58TyggerBobfinally got my wireless working properly on my iPAQ
13:24.58koen|uniewi546.ewi.utwente.nl/feed
13:24.59TyggerBobthank you kindly.. wasn't sure if you were around.
13:24.59TyggerBob:)
13:27.33TyggerBobFor some reason, the wireless on my iPAQ doesn't like my DLink AP/Router..
13:27.33TyggerBobworks fine with my Linksys, though.
13:27.40shiyeeTyggerBob: i once had a similar problem, it had to do with the preamble length. was solved by upgrading the firmware
13:27.44TyggerBobAP firmware or iPAQ firmware?
13:27.46shiyeeAP firmware
13:28.49TyggerBobhrm.. already at the most current version..
13:28.49TyggerBobI'll play around with it and see what happens..
13:28.49TyggerBobthanks for the hint, though
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13:58.17TyggerBobquick question regarding feed caches..
13:58.27TyggerBobif I reboot, it disappears, right?
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13:59.17TyggerBobWould that speed up package removal?
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14:01.45TyggerBobdarn.. wrong X
14:04.46TyggerBobbelay my last.. the answer's yes :)
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14:31.32bedboiworking on libgpeplugin
14:31.55bedboifinishing the xml parser
14:33.13TyggerBobkoen|uni, you have firefox built for GPE?
14:33.15TyggerBobcool
14:34.20koen|uniyou'll need >64MB of ram for that
14:36.05TyggerBobwasn't going to use it.. just commenting on the coolness..  h5555 big enough, though?
14:38.17rob_wFirefox still is around 6 mb , right ?
14:40.34TyggerBobthe ipk is over 8
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15:06.02koen|uniTyggerBob: you could try to use it on a h5550
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15:45.26TyggerBobNope. no joy.. install failed with no space left :)
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15:53.32koenpaper finished!
15:53.52koenone week left to finish the talk, start packing and fix bugs
15:59.37TyggerBobSounds good, Koen.. what's the paper/talk on?
16:01.27koenthe paper was about restoring sample before feeding it to a recognizer and the talk is about familiar and OE
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16:36.31mimecarevening
16:36.37florian_kchi mimecar
16:36.55mimecarhey florian_kc
16:37.06shiyeeevening mimecar
16:40.51mimecarevening shiyee
16:41.52TyggerBobsorry.. had a work call.
16:41.53TyggerBobback..
16:42.06TyggerBobsounds interesting. who's the talk to about familiar and OE?
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16:53.29florian_kckoen: We still don't have a working mb-applet-launcher in the images.
17:04.20koenwhat does mb-applet-launcher do?
17:05.21florian_kcah
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17:06.01florian_kchi jsmanrique
17:06.38shiyeewhy does bitbaking gpe-image in the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 branch result in hitting a bug with gcc-cross-kernel-3.3.3 (OE bug #70)? do I have some kind of mis-configuration?
17:07.10jsmanriquehi
17:09.51jsmanriquejust a gpe&maemo related question.. I have tried GPE-Todo in the Nokia 770, but only the launcher icon has localized text in Spanish.. could it be a bug or a feature?
17:11.28florian_kckoen: and of course we want gpe-sketchbook 0.2.9 :-)
17:12.02florian_kcshiyee: for which device?
17:12.08shiyeeflorian_kc: h3900
17:12.54florian_kcjsmanrique: that's a bug in the packages, for some reason they are missing translation files.
17:14.24jsmanriqueflorian_kc: ok, then I have time to update some translations :)
17:14.39jsmanriqueflorian_kc: I don't like my translation of Todo-List :)
17:15.14jsmanriquehow goes gpe-calendar in nokia 770? when color categories will be ready?
17:15.43jsmanriqueis someone working in creating some gpe home applets for maemo?
17:16.13jsmanriquebecause I can't belive it hasn't an alarm or similar
17:17.26florian_kcjsmanrique: bedboi had some success with gpe-announce so only atd is missing.
17:17.45florian_kcyeah... some alarm is really a must.
17:17.48jsmanriquewhat about the color categories?
17:17.52bedboiflorian_kc: we should try debian arm
17:17.54bedboiatd
17:18.02jsmanriqueI love this feature in my macosx ical app
17:18.46jsmanriquespecially useful for classes, practices,.. and all the student stuff :)
17:19.00mreimerI agree with jsmanrique
17:19.32florian_kcbedboi: yep, that's a good idea. and we should request this feature for libosso - it is able to notify processes if the time is changed but not at a particular time.
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17:24.01jsmanriquemreimer: thanks ;)
17:24.09florian_kcjsmanrique, mreimer: That would be really cool indeed but it will take some time or additional manpower. Currently i want to focus on the 2.7 release and the device control layer first.
17:24.19florian_kchi lolita770
17:24.28florian_kchi _law_
17:24.32mreimerflorian_kc: yes, I agree that the device control layer is more important
17:24.37jsmanriqueflorian_kc: control layer? just to show more than a task at same hour?
17:24.46mreimerjsmanrique: backlight, etc. too
17:24.57jsmanriqueflorian_kc: I see, I see
17:24.59mreimerjsmanrique: right now gpe-conf screen doesn't work for 2.6 devices
17:25.00_law_hi florian_kc
17:25.09mreimerbecause it only knows the 2.4 way of doing things
17:25.39florian_kcmreimer: oh... good point, we have that code in minilite.
17:25.45jsmanriqueflorian_kc: when gpe-calendar will be added to KC-maemo site?
17:25.56mreimerflorian_kc: and bl
17:27.12lolita770Hi florian_kc
17:27.34florian_kcjsmanrique: As soon as it is really useful, imho it still needs some tweaks and a working gpe-announce.
17:28.37jsmanriqueok
17:28.58florian_kcmreimer: indeed... in fact we should replace this by some cammand line tool using the device control layer asap.
17:29.08mreimeragreed
17:29.18mreimerthree copies of the same code is not good :-)
17:29.50mreimerhey koen
17:29.56jsmanriquekoen: hi
17:30.14koenhey mreimer & jsmanrique
17:30.46_law_new gpe-login looks better but how can i change the font size
17:30.56_law_it is very big
17:35.07koen<PROTECTED>
17:35.38koen_law_: is that with 0.83r1 or 0.83r0?
17:36.30_law_r1
17:36.41koenthat should use font size 5
17:38.04_law_koen: try do restart my Z
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17:43.09_law_koen: hmm font size is set to 5 but fonts are much bigger, perhabs /etc/X11/gpe-login.gtkrc isnt used?
17:43.42koenis it still blue?
17:43.49_law_no
17:44.16koendoes it use the industrial theme?
17:44.26koenif so, gpe-login.gtkrc is parsed
17:44.40_law_koen: ok you are right
17:45.51_law_Sans 5
17:48.06_law_koen: perhabs because there is no Sans Font in /usr/share/fonts/ttf ?
17:49.20florian_kchmm no, "Sans" should be an alias.
17:49.24koenthere should be
17:50.14_law_alias?
17:53.35_law_ah alias in /etc/fonts/fonts.conf
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18:05.25koenflorian_kc: apart from the ej-s hyphen thing are the any problems with building an image for the nokia770?
18:06.47florian_kckoen: apart from the stuff you just fixed and the necesary sysvinit patch it seems to work pretty well. I just have it running on a B4...
18:08.42florian_kcThe images work right from the start, permissions and calibration are ok, wireless lan needs an "ifconfig wlan0 up" prior to configuration and we lack some device control.
18:09.41philippeevening peeps
18:09.42koenhey philippe
18:09.50philippeflorian_kc, gpe image for 770?
18:10.04philippehallo koen
18:10.14koengoedenavond
18:10.29philippekoen, u ook een goedenavond :-)
18:10.36koen:)
18:12.19philippeflorian_kc, http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/nokia770/experimental/gpe-image-nokia770-20051107165915.rootfs.jffs2 is this one good?
18:13.37philippewell at least that is the plan
18:16.22florian_kchey philippe
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18:16.32florian_kcphilippe: yes right, that should be okay.
18:17.03philippeflorian_kc, great. I'll try it out.
18:18.29koenevil gnomes
18:18.45florian_kcphilippe: if i had some basic hardware controls (light, bt, audio) and battery status i'd be pretty happy with it.
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18:20.11philippebattery might be hard, audio is maybe also a problem. Light should be do-able.
18:20.29mimecarkoen: said yourself "gnome is my friend" :)
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18:23.30mimecar_re
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18:25.10philippekoen, btw you saw that "Clemens Eisserer" troll about gtk being bloated and slow and wanting QT?
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18:27.30florian_kcphilippe: i don't think that mail is worth another answer...
18:27.54philippeflorian_kc, indeed... I should have put TROLL!!!
18:28.14florian_kcphilippe: i can.. if i kill bme & dsme, but then i loose power management.
18:28.40philippeflorian_kc, I'll talk to devesh about this tomorrow
18:28.44florian_kcphilippe: yeah :-)
18:29.41philippewell if he is in. I think he is in Helsiniki atm
18:29.51florian_kcphilippe: I guess bme is the magic piece - if we knew how to talk to it for some controls that would be fine.
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18:58.14florian_kcbrb
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19:34.12drcodehi all
19:35.21koen|tvhey drcode
19:35.55drcodeI have old palm IBM workpad c3
19:36.00drcodeit can use GPE ?
19:36.08drcodeor other kind of os base in linux?
19:36.59philippedrcode, is there any linux port for that thing?
19:37.09drcodeI dont know
19:37.21drcodeI realy wish to use linux also
19:37.38drcodethe GPE project is for graphucal palm?
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19:38.51philippedrcode, I just found the specs. Seems it is quite a bit like the first palm series. That means you have a dragonball cpu which only has a uclinux port.
19:39.08philippeSo this means no full linux (the cpu does not have an mmu)
19:39.17drcodeI see
19:39.29drcodeso only uclinux can work in this palm?
19:39.59philippeyep. And some really basic stuff only. Don't even think of GPE.
19:40.05philippesorry
19:40.15drcodek
19:40.29drcodeso I better stay with PALM os 3.1
19:40.50philippedefinitely in this case. (If it was wince I would recommend something else :-)
19:42.29drcodek
19:42.30drcodethanx
19:45.27koen|tvphilippe: discovered any finnish beer you'd reccomend?
19:45.46koen|tv(pilsner like beer doesn't count)
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19:57.29bedboigtk_box_pack_start: assertion `child->parent == NULL <--- what's this?
19:58.33bedboigtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (parent_w), w, TRUE, TRUE, 2);
19:58.33bedboigtk_box_pack_start (GTK_BOX (w), label, TRUE, TRUE, 1);
19:58.40bedboithe second line is the incriminated one
19:59.55bedboiany hint?
20:02.10philippekoen|tv, no. (Not yet I hope)
20:02.19shiyeebedboi: could you paste the entire func. on pastebin?
20:07.56bedboishiyee: yep
20:08.52bedboihttp://pastebin.com/422116
20:10.16shiyeecould it be that label already has been packed?
20:10.38bedboiwindow= gtk_window_new(GTK_WINDOW_TOPLEVEL);
20:10.38bedboigtk_container_add (GTK_CONTAINER(window), root_widget);
20:10.38bedboilabel = gtk_label_new ("prova");
20:10.38bedboigtk_widget_show(label);
20:10.44bedboihere it is initialised
20:10.49bedboiit is just sample code
20:14.29shiyeemy best bet is that label is being packed more than once - if e.g. add_widget was called more than once?
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20:18.30bedboiah ok
20:30.45bedboicool. i'm quite done
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20:31.45koen|tvbedboi: screenshots! screenshots!
20:32.19bedboiwait
20:32.19bedboi:)
20:35.12bedboihttp://193.204.59.123/plugin_test.png
20:35.40koen|tvvbox 1 is the coolest
20:35.41bedboithis is done by parsing an XML
20:35.45bedboiehhe
20:35.52bedboiand by adding elements
20:35.54bedboiwith
20:36.01bedboiplguin_add_to_box(frame_child4, "Child4");
20:36.16bedboiframe_child4 is a plugin
20:36.24bedboiso it can be something really complicated
20:36.28shiyeekoen|tv: should gcc-cross-kernel-3.3.3 be compiled when i bitbake gpe-image? (it fails, oe bug #70)
20:36.44koen|tvI think that's used to build the kernel
20:36.56koen|tvI suspect you have gcc4 on your host as the default compiler
20:37.31shiyeeahh, will try with 3.3 then... didn't think it mattered
20:38.40koen|tvpretty ironic that gcc4 can't compile gcc3
20:38.58shiyeeindeed ;-)
20:39.32bedboiphilippe: i think that tomorrow i'll commit some cool code in libgpeplugin
20:40.37koen|tvI think philippe can help you with importing some 'finnish winter coolness' into italy ;)
20:41.51bedboii don't want it
20:41.52bedboi:)
20:45.26bedboii'm really tired
20:45.30bedboii'll make a break
20:45.39bedboiand finish coding the plugin stuff later
20:45.49bedboiit's quite done
20:46.08philippebedboi, looks nice
20:49.22bedboihttp://pastebin.com/422198
20:49.34bedboiphilippe: that's the XML that generated that
20:50.23philippebedboi, hmm that really is some tiny xml there
20:50.41bedboireally tiny
20:50.44bedboii don't like xml
20:50.56bedboiso that's the max i can bear
20:51.03philippe:-)
20:51.26bedboixml sucks
20:51.27bedboi:)
20:58.37bedboicool today i learned lot of things
20:59.04bedboiXML subset parser, GHashTables (now i really learned them)
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21:19.38florianre
21:20.10mimecarre
21:20.37mimecarevening florian
21:21.45mimecaris there a "standard method" for inserting contacts on contacts database
21:21.54mimecarprogramming, not by program
21:27.30florianmimecar: Not really, some library abstaction is really missing for the contacts database.
21:28.04mimecarI had a littel program which introduce data
21:28.21mimecardata appear on a sql viewer but no on pda
21:28.46mimecarI don't know if I must introduce it with an order..
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21:31.15mimecarhey Skyhusker
21:31.26koen|tvhey Skyhusker
21:31.32mimecarhey koen|tv
21:32.17Skyhuskerhi
21:32.33Skyhuskerhey mimecar
21:32.35Skyhuskerhey koen|tv
21:32.37Skyhuskerarg, i've just spent 2 hours trying to get gaim to work with matrixssl
21:32.56florianmimecar: hrm nasty... can you send me such a database?
21:33.13mimecarI can create a new database tomorrow
21:33.26Skyhuskerand finally i found the free version doesn't support TLS :-/
21:33.37florianmimecar: that would be nice, that can't bee too complicated to debug.
21:34.07mimecaris not complicate
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21:35.02mimecardo exist some cash manager on gpe ?
21:37.08mimecarflorian: can mailing liste admit files ?
21:40.12florianmimecar: Not yet... i remember we had several people planning or coding such an application but no results so far.
21:40.39mimecarok
21:40.42florianmimecar: text attachments maybe, but i'm convinced there is a size limit.
21:40.55mimecarsqlite is text more or less
21:41.30mimecarI think open embedded forum can use attachments
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21:44.38florianmimecar: not really... maybe send it to me directly.
21:45.18mimecarif I have some free time, I can create the test file tomorrow
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22:05.16philippeoef, finally got that gtk_ctree working again for gpe-timesheet. Next thing is move to gtk_tree
22:22.59florianphilippe: hmm okay.. now replace it with a GtkTreeView ;-)
22:26.18philippeflorian, true. That is on the planning...
22:28.20florianphilippe: :-)
22:30.26philippeflorian, FYI http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/chngview?cn=753
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23:06.18koen|tv'night all
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23:19.49reenooevening
23:25.57florianhi reenoo
23:26.28florianphilippe: ah pretty good... sounds like you did quite some necessary stuff.
23:26.59reenoohey florian
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23:58.50florianphilippe: good night
23:59.38reenoo'night philippe

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