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| 09:14.58 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 09:14.58 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 09:16.38 | koen | hey florian_kc |
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| 09:22.19 | lolita__ | morning florian_kc |
| 09:31.57 | koen | lolita__: congrats on the first commits |
| 09:32.06 | lolita__ | thx ... |
| 09:32.32 | lolita__ | it would have taken much more time without koen and florian_kc |
| 09:32.47 | florian_kc | uh |
| 09:33.48 | koen | florian_kc: do you have a html version of the devmanual online? |
| 09:34.11 | koen | have fun |
| 09:35.11 | lolita__ | thx |
| 09:35.39 | florian_kc | hm... that's something missing in my collection :-) |
| 09:38.42 | lolita__ | should i take one for you too? |
| 09:40.28 | florian_kc | heh |
| 09:40.36 | florian_kc | what's the price? |
| 09:41.51 | koen | heh |
| 09:41.56 | koen | that sounds so familiar |
| 09:42.07 | koen | (except the wife part) |
| 09:42.56 | florian_kc | koen: We talk again about this in 5 years ;-) |
| 09:43.11 | koen | :) |
| 09:46.07 | XorA | we need to set up a wife training school, teach them geekdom |
| 09:46.23 | florian_kc | heh yeah... |
| 09:46.42 | XorA | though mine is a genetics geek anyway |
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| 09:53.31 | florian_kc | hi Philippe_work |
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| 09:56.43 | Philippe_work | hello florian_kc |
| 09:58.29 | koen | hey Philippe_work |
| 10:00.14 | Philippe_work | hey koen |
| 10:01.21 | koen | florian_kc: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.30739.png <- the clock is working again |
| 10:02.10 | koen | XorA: JustinP made this scap on his Spitz: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.26129.png |
| 10:03.47 | florian_kc | koen: cool! that's good news... |
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| 10:09.00 | koen | JustinP: how's the speed of E? |
| 10:09.58 | XorA | koen: heh heh |
| 10:10.30 | koen | mickeyl is going to push his E makeover tonight |
| 10:13.40 | koen | Philippe_work: minimo is still loading the page |
| 10:14.11 | koen | 12 hours to load a single page on a pxa270....... |
| 10:15.01 | XorA | koen: stop flogging the dead horse and improve mini-browser :-) |
| 10:17.30 | koen | XorA: I'm debating which browser to ship with GPE |
| 10:17.36 | koen | minimo has a fair chance |
| 10:17.51 | koen | had* |
| 10:18.00 | XorA | koen: so far I have yet to see minimo render anything more complex than google.com |
| 10:18.12 | XorA | koen: even the example pda sites it boots with dont work |
| 10:18.54 | koen | and the 'back' button doesn't work |
| 10:20.18 | Philippe_work | ok koen. I'll try to get the bookmarks in as fast as possible |
| 10:28.27 | XorA | IMHO as a gpe user, if I picked up a PDA with gpe-mini-browser on it Id be 90% happy in its current state its more usable than Opera or Konq-e and as fast as dillo/dillo2 |
| 10:28.55 | pH5 | Philippe_work: gpe-mini-browser can't display www.google.co.jp. is that a webcore problem? |
| 10:30.48 | Philippe_work | pH5, I should try. I never went to a Japanese website. |
| 10:31.11 | Philippe_work | but if it doesn't it would be webcore related |
| 10:31.40 | Philippe_work | Oh yes, I testes gtk-webcore intensively this weekend for threading problems etc, but I couldn't find any. |
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| 10:50.14 | XorA | ~lart splits |
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| 11:26.32 | reenoo | afternoon |
| 11:29.47 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 11:29.52 | reenoo | hi koen |
| 11:38.26 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 11:38.40 | reenoo | moin florian_kc |
| 11:47.03 | reenoo | hrm, the "run script" thing in nautilus has vanished with current nautilus :/ |
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| 12:53.26 | koen | hey jamey |
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| 13:18.49 | XorA | ok, who broke gpe-dm? |
| 13:19.55 | koen | evil gnomes |
| 13:20.13 | koen | or evil trolls |
| 13:21.49 | Philippe_work | ~lart elves for breaking gpe-dm :-) |
| 13:22.03 | XorA | for some reason my gpe-login doesnt depend on libcairo :-( |
| 13:22.48 | XorA | ah nope I am stupid |
| 13:22.50 | XorA | ~lart me |
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| 14:00.16 | koen | hey tigrux |
| 14:00.26 | tigrux | Hello koen |
| 14:31.04 | koen | hey CoreDump|home |
| 14:33.30 | CoreDump|home | hey koen |
| 15:17.18 | koen | hey mickeyl |
| 15:17.35 | mickeyl | hi |
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| 15:21.44 | pb_ | good morning mickeyl |
| 15:21.55 | mickeyl | morning pb_ |
| 15:26.28 | reenoo | moin mickeyl |
| 15:26.31 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
| 15:27.55 | pb_ | hi reenoo |
| 15:28.12 | mickeyl | hi reenoo |
| 15:33.47 | reenoo | pb_: looks like I'll implement my own function instead of ftw. I need to be able to exclude directories from the traversing based on what I get from stat() (mtime basically). |
| 15:41.51 | pb_ | ah right |
| 15:44.06 | koen | hmmmm |
| 15:44.06 | koen | glibmm-2.6.1/glib/glibmm/.libs/libglibmm-2.4.so.1.0.13 |
| 15:44.48 | reenoo | why not? |
| 15:45.13 | reenoo | (yes, the -2.4 is probably ok) |
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| 15:46.16 | koen | ok |
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| 16:01.35 | lolita__ | florian_kc ... the NeXT-Stations were for free ;) |
| 16:04.12 | florian_kc | lolita__: wow! that nice things don't happen really frequently... |
| 16:07.14 | koen | florian_kc: did you get my mail about the vcard import strangeness? |
| 16:11.04 | lolita__ | ahm ... btw. gpe-cal hangs on importing ical in scratchbox ... have to try this again this evening |
| 16:11.24 | koen | ical isn't supported yet |
| 16:11.29 | koen | although it shouldn't hang |
| 16:11.43 | lolita__ | ... jes ... it should give an error msg ;) |
| 16:12.09 | pb_ | that is rather strange. |
| 16:12.16 | lolita__ | but ical was just a synonym ... i tried to open an empty text file i think ... i've to check ... |
| 16:12.18 | pb_ | I guess you will have to use gdb to find out where it is stuck. |
| 16:12.28 | lolita__ | jep ... ill do that |
| 16:12.38 | pb_ | oh, I see, you were importing an invalid file? I guess that might be a problem. |
| 16:13.05 | pb_ | it still shouldn't hang, of course, but that might explain why nobody has reported the problem before. |
| 16:14.04 | lolita__ | ... as said i'll have a look but ... if the gpe suite is the first pim suite on nokia 770 ... then it should work for the average user as good as possible ;) |
| 16:14.22 | florian_kc | koen: hm... i don't think so, when did you send this? |
| 16:14.34 | koen | 2 days ago |
| 16:14.45 | koen | ehm |
| 16:14.48 | koen | 1 day ago |
| 16:15.16 | lolita__ | ahm florian_kc did you get my diff with the gtk-doc.make files? |
| 16:15.44 | florian_kc | koen: i can't find it... |
| 16:15.58 | florian_kc | lolita__: yes, this one i got :-) many thanks! |
| 16:16.21 | koen | florian_kc: resending it |
| 16:16.30 | florian_kc | koen: thanks |
| 16:16.47 | lolita__ | i'm afraid there are some more missing ... there were also some mkinstalldir scripts missing ... but i didn't find time to try to compile everything from the gpe tree ;) |
| 16:16.49 | koen | florian_kc: it did have 2 attachments, so a spamfilter along the way might have swallowed it |
| 16:17.02 | koen | and the uni mailserver isn't exactly reliable |
| 16:19.17 | koen | florian_kc: and I forwarded fnd_sma's mail about opensync to you and nils this afternoon |
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| 16:22.57 | florian_kc | lolita__: I guess that's some autofoo incompatibiliy, that script should be automatically generated if necessary. |
| 16:23.35 | florian_kc | koen: yeah... that one i got too, this all sounds promising. |
| 16:24.02 | florian_kc | koen: now the mail arrived :-) |
| 16:27.12 | koen | I've been getting 'next weekend: downtime due to mailserver replacement' for over two years now |
| 16:27.23 | florian_kc | koen: I know about this "NULL" issue and think i can fix this easily, but i really wonder why the toolbar spacing is that wide. |
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| 16:27.35 | koen | hey Cwiiis |
| 16:27.40 | florian_kc | koen: heh |
| 16:27.43 | florian_kc | hi Cwiiis |
| 16:27.58 | Cwiiis | Hey koen, florian_kc, all |
| 16:28.17 | koen | florian_kc: no idea, but I can miss the 'quit' button ;) |
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| 16:29.23 | koen | bonjour molivier |
| 16:29.30 | florian_kc | koen: right... but it doesn't look good in that way and it prevents us from running it undecorated (which i'd really like to see in some near future. |
| 16:29.35 | florian_kc | hi molivier |
| 16:29.58 | koen | florian_kc: you'll also notice that I started it in a different rotation |
| 16:30.06 | koen | I really like the details view :) |
| 16:30.12 | molivier | koen, bonjour |
| 16:30.18 | molivier | florian_kc, hi |
| 16:30.50 | florian_kc | koen: yes right... we should add a switch to force it to turn it on. |
| 16:31.22 | koen | ~seen bedboi |
| 16:31.26 | ibot | bedboi <[U2FsdGVkX@signserv.Signal.Uu.Se> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 2d 5h 18m 22s ago, saying: 'from poland'. |
| 16:32.21 | koen | ~seen tyggerbob |
| 16:32.21 | ibot | tyggerbob <~bdavies@neptune.cinnabar.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 63d 3h 27m 49s ago, saying: 'lots of --with-libnet=/etc/etc/etc/...'. |
| 16:32.30 | koen | ~seen tygger-bob |
| 16:32.31 | ibot | tygger-bob <~myname@CPE00045a265f64-CM000f9f7c58fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #gpe, 164d 20h 11m 21s ago, saying: 'brb'. |
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| 17:09.41 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 17:15.23 | molivier | is there someone here who wrote his own application for gpe ? |
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| 17:38.37 | reenoo | molivier: depends on the question I guess |
| 17:44.30 | molivier | reenoo, i mean people whose wrote apps not in the official gpe distrib |
| 17:45.26 | reenoo | molivier: just ask your question |
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| 18:29.04 | florian | re |
| 18:32.02 | koen | hey florian |
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| 18:50.36 | buk | Good evening. :) |
| 18:51.16 | buk | anyone awake who can tell if I need to recover with the gzipped wince image or the unpacked? |
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| 18:53.56 | buk | florian: can you tell me if I'm able to recover from my gzipped wince backup I created before flashing GPE? |
| 18:54.11 | Kompo | Hey, does anybody know whether "stock" gpe has glib and gtk c++ wrappers, like glib-mm or similar? |
| 18:54.32 | buk | did you apt-cache search em? |
| 18:55.29 | Kompo | No, I actually don't have any gpe environment available currently.. |
| 18:55.47 | Kompo | I'm just developing an application and wondering about introducing |
| 18:55.59 | Kompo | introducing a (unneeded) dependency.. |
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| 19:00.43 | pH5 | Kompo: the only app I know of that depends on glademm/gtkmm/glibmm is minisip. |
| 19:02.57 | Kompo | pH5: ok, so maybe I'll not use it then.. |
| 19:12.57 | florian | koen: No wrappers so far... you can use the C headers from C++ as well, but a native C++ interface is missing. |
| 19:13.08 | florian | s/koen/Kompo |
| 19:15.06 | Kompo | florian: yeps. I was just looking for convinience :) |
| 19:15.35 | florian | Kompo: Hey plain C is fine for mobile devices :-) |
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| 19:37.24 | florian | hi lolita__ |
| 19:37.43 | lolita__ | hi ... whats up ? |
| 19:39.46 | koen | florian: gpe-contacts is 'cute' according to my girlfriend |
| 19:39.58 | koen | florian: because it can display pictures of people :) |
| 19:40.48 | florian | koen: :-) |
| 19:45.18 | lolita__ | hm ... |
| 19:46.55 | florian | First the new kernel binary for sgivws i promised on the mailinglist. |
| 20:10.31 | Philippe | evening |
| 20:10.44 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 20:10.56 | Philippe | hey koen. |
| 20:11.17 | Philippe | Finally net access again. It was cut of at work (proxy down) |
| 20:14.30 | Philippe | hmmm free lifetime pizza spam. That is new... |
| 20:14.46 | lolita__ | plz forward that1 |
| 20:14.48 | lolita__ | ;) |
| 20:15.01 | Philippe | lolita__, sorry junked it already... |
| 20:20.13 | Philippe | anybody knows which size icon pngs must have to use them as a button? |
| 20:20.36 | Philippe | I need to make bookmark icons as the current GTK stock icons are not sufficient |
| 20:20.36 | koen | 16x16 up to 64x64 iirc |
| 20:22.21 | Philippe | koen, any clue where they should end up? |
| 20:22.41 | koen | /usr/share/pixmaps |
| 20:23.32 | koen | I have both a /usr/share/icons and /usr/share/pixmaps on the ipaq |
| 20:25.58 | koen | probably some fuzzy standard |
| 20:29.25 | Philippe | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22205.png Me likes the icon second from the bottom at the right hand side of the screen :-) |
| 20:29.51 | koen | :) |
| 20:30.38 | Philippe | What hardware is that spitz thing? |
| 20:30.45 | koen | ~spitz |
| 20:30.46 | ibot | well, spitz is the Sharp SL-C3000, or a dog |
| 20:31.00 | koen | clamshell with 4GB microdrive |
| 20:31.04 | Philippe | I want such a dog :-) |
| 20:31.18 | koen | no wifi or bluetooth though |
| 20:31.34 | koen | but it does have SD + CF slots |
| 20:36.58 | florian | brb |
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| 20:43.37 | lolita__ | n8 |
| 20:43.44 | koen | 'night lolita__ |
| 20:45.44 | koen | RP: do you know how well x86 mmx maps to iwmmx? |
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| 21:02.58 | JustinP | koen: speed is just fine. |
| 21:03.16 | JustinP | koen: what do you mean by mickeyl's E makeover? |
| 21:03.59 | koen | JustinP: http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.message/6299508 http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/openembedded/.message/6300481 |
| 21:05.23 | JustinP | koen: ..... |
| 21:05.32 | JustinP | koen: how new are those versions? |
| 21:05.41 | koen | a few hours |
| 21:05.53 | JustinP | I mean the versions of the E libs |
| 21:06.01 | koen | no idea on that |
| 21:06.32 | koen | they still have some mistakes, but it's definately progress |
| 21:07.11 | JustinP | god damn it |
| 21:08.59 | JustinP | oh fsck yes |
| 21:09.07 | JustinP | not only that....what the hell am I wasting my time on? |
| 21:09.38 | JustinP | I've spent days getting these damn e libs to compile from CVS and such |
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| 21:12.13 | koen | attach the cvs versions to bugzilla and we'll sort them out |
| 21:12.15 | koen | hey fng_sma |
| 21:12.16 | fng_sma | hello |
| 21:12.41 | fng_sma | wow, there are many people in this channel! |
| 21:12.51 | JustinP | yeah...going to be all sorts of fun getting all these things merged right.... |
| 21:13.49 | JustinP | bitbake is also bugging out on me |
| 21:13.56 | JustinP | says there's a parsing error |
| 21:14.05 | JustinP | then next time it does it all just fine |
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| 21:14.40 | koen | I remove the cache pretty often |
| 21:16.35 | JustinP | I have no idea how to fix all of these build problems....native builds wanting to link to cross-libs and cross builds wanting to link to native-libs |
| 21:16.53 | koen | yep |
| 21:16.55 | koen | same here |
| 21:17.02 | koen | I sent mickeyl a mail about that |
| 21:17.46 | JustinP | I'm only really having the problem with these E libs...are you having it with others? |
| 21:17.58 | koen | e-libs |
| 21:18.02 | JustinP | ok |
| 21:18.06 | JustinP | ::sigh:: |
| 21:18.13 | koen | yep |
| 21:18.21 | koen | I remember my fight with it a few weeks ago |
| 21:18.50 | JustinP | how can I reliably get the host and target arches? I can add a hack to the do_compile's to fix this I think. I definately need them to be right, though |
| 21:19.28 | JustinP | re-asking in #oe |
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| 21:35.55 | koen | hey florian_ |
| 21:36.25 | philippe_netbook | evening florian |
| 21:37.06 | florian_ | hi |
| 21:37.22 | florian_ | what is going on at hh.org? |
| 21:38.01 | koen | moving servers to a different location |
| 21:38.27 | florian_ | ah cool |
| 21:38.56 | florian_ | Didn't france_ talk about an official announcement who will host it? |
| 21:39.13 | koen | not yet |
| 21:39.20 | koen | he'll do that after the move is complete |
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| 21:39.49 | florian_ | ah okay |
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| 21:55.22 | koen | tubbie|atlantis: 'duet' ? |
| 21:55.43 | tubbie|atlantis | well, 2x04 koen |
| 21:55.50 | koen | yep, duet |
| 21:56.14 | koen | cheesy episode, but nice |
| 21:57.02 | tubbie|atlantis | I am going into, well for me BSG was nice, so the minimum level on SciFi needed Scifi is reached :) |
| 21:57.15 | koen | :) |
| 22:05.00 | _law_ | any ideas? http://pastebin.com/332361 |
| 22:05.35 | mickeyl | this is just a grep, look for the complete error in the log |
| 22:05.54 | koen | looks like the old regexp problem |
| 22:06.04 | koen | libgpg-error |
| 22:06.40 | _law_ | is libgpg in the standard gpe-image? |
| 22:07.22 | koen | I think sylpheed needs it |
| 22:08.18 | _law_ | it depends on gnutls or? |
| 22:08.26 | _law_ | DEPENDS = "gtk+ gpgme gnutls" |
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| 22:46.48 | Philippe | night all |
| 22:47.44 | florian_ | Philippe: good night |
| 22:47.51 | fng_sma | good night |
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| 23:09.04 | Kompo | Philippe: I committed support for libsoup in gtk-webcore.. I think now I'll work on integrating apples new code, and see if that will take away some crashes.. |
| 23:11.38 | florian_ | Kompo: That sounds pretty good! |
| 23:12.26 | florian_ | Kompo: Do you guys have plans to introduce a rendering mode for these small portrait displays? |
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| 23:34.48 | florian_ | good night |
