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08:08.58 | bedboi | hi all |
08:10.56 | bedboi | re |
08:14.25 | bedboi | i can access ssh to handhelds.org btw i can't write to cvs |
08:14.31 | bedboi | it seems i don't have permissions |
08:14.44 | hrw|work | you checkouted anoncvs? |
08:15.01 | bedboi | ah, yep |
08:15.03 | bedboi | stupid me |
08:18.35 | bedboi | cvs checkout: failed to create lock directory for `/cvs/gpe/base/build/tp' (/var/lock/cvs/gpe/base/build/tp/#cvs.lock): Permission denied |
08:18.35 | bedboi | cvs checkout: failed to obtain dir lock in repository `/cvs/gpe/base/build/tp' |
08:18.37 | bedboi | cvs [checkout aborted]: read lock failed - giving up |
08:23.51 | rob_w-cgi | hi all |
08:26.07 | bedboi | hi rob |
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08:39.03 | rob_w-cgi | hey bedboi ,, ,fighting cvs ?! |
08:39.49 | bedboi | yep |
08:39.57 | bedboi | any clue? |
08:41.40 | JiniDog | eh? suddenly most applications do not open over their matchbox icons anymore, although they do when I call them via the commandline |
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08:47.39 | rob_w-cgi | bedboi : -> " Permission denied" |
08:48.40 | bedboi | i know...so it's something wrong on cvs server? |
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09:00.51 | JiniDog | damn it, what is that? |
09:03.36 | rob_w-cgi | JiniDog : that is strange .. so when the app starts it doesnt show his icon , only via command line ? |
09:05.14 | JiniDog | startup-notification shows up, but the app doesn't start |
09:05.23 | JiniDog | gpe-tetris or gpe-info for example |
09:05.33 | JiniDog | most gpe-conf apps start, but no others |
09:07.17 | JiniDog | before that I added two .desktop files to activate and deactivate swap; but the problem does not disappear even when I move the files away |
09:09.57 | JiniDog | hmm, perhaps it has to do witah |
09:10.01 | JiniDog | emm |
09:10.12 | JiniDog | suddenly they don't open anymore from the commandline |
09:11.27 | JiniDog | Gtk-WARNING **: This process is currently running setuid or setgid. |
09:15.07 | JiniDog | as root it works again |
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09:17.41 | lardman | morning |
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09:26.07 | eJumbo | does touching my machine conf file do a full build. just changed my machine conf file and it is doing that!!! |
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09:51.30 | bedboi | hi pb_ |
09:52.38 | bedboi | pb_: france gave me access. unfortunately there's still some problem |
09:52.44 | bedboi | cvs checkout: failed to create lock directory for `/cvs/gpe/base/build/tp' (/var/lock/cvs/gpe/base/build/tp/#cvs.lock): Permission denied |
09:52.56 | rob_w-cgi | is it true that i need to delete or erase the buffer of a prevoius command/action on a serial connetoin when flow/controll is on hardwre ? |
09:53.13 | JiniDog | eJumbo, perhaps you changed your working direcotry= |
09:56.40 | eJumbo | no i changed eJumbo IMAGE_FSTYE="jffs2" |
10:01.24 | JiniDog | wow, playing mp3s and watching a goom visiluation is cool (on poodle) |
10:03.36 | hrw|work | JiniDog: could you join OE team as poodle maintainer then? :) we will drop poodle support in next OZ release as noone have it |
10:04.52 | JiniDog | I can |
10:05.35 | JiniDog | however, it's unlikely that I will flash my poodle again with a kernel (despite there comes the 2.6 one) or an image |
10:05.55 | mickeyl | why's that? |
10:06.01 | JiniDog | It's taking me hours to restore everything |
10:06.31 | JiniDog | And when I flash a new kernel, it boots again only if I flash the image too |
10:07.16 | mickeyl | crazy poodle |
10:07.28 | mickeyl | well, then you probably can't act as maintainer. |
10:07.55 | pb_ | hi bedboi |
10:08.08 | JiniDog | okay, maybe I will flash sometime in the future, in the moment I'm tired of. It's not good for my internal flash; I'm doing it to often and I don't know how often the previous owner did it |
10:08.11 | pb_ | hm, I wonder what is wrong there. Are you in the proj_gpe group? |
10:08.33 | JiniDog | perhaps when I find a good way to backup my data and installation of the zaurus |
10:09.17 | JiniDog | but there is no problem for me testing the apps that are in OE |
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10:12.12 | bedboi | wait, i log in |
10:13.03 | bedboi | pb_: [ldecicco@h1 ldecicco]$ groups |
10:13.03 | bedboi | ldecicco cvswrite proj_gpe |
10:13.09 | bedboi | weird |
10:15.49 | pb_ | that does seem weird |
10:15.55 | pb_ | what are the ownerships on the directory it says it can't write to? |
10:26.12 | bedboi | [ldecicco@h1 build]$ ls -l |
10:26.12 | bedboi | total 8 |
10:26.12 | bedboi | drwxrwxr-t 2 luc cvswrite 4096 Jul 6 04:21 familiar/ |
10:26.12 | bedboi | drwxrwxr-t 2 pb users 4096 Jul 5 14:51 tp/ |
10:29.26 | bedboi | i'm not in that group |
10:29.38 | bedboi | i'm not in users |
10:39.25 | bedboi | re |
10:47.36 | rob_w-cgi | there must be a way to tell a rs232 to dump a read out buffer after i read it , right ? |
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10:48.21 | reenoo | morning |
10:49.27 | pb_ | bedboi: ah, right, whoops |
10:49.40 | pigeon | hmm... how's the EU patent vote going? |
10:50.17 | bedboi | pigeon: they will vote no |
10:50.49 | pigeon | it's voting right now... watching the media stream, but it doesn't mean too much for me as it keeps going thru all those amendment numbers... :\ |
10:50.57 | pigeon | (i.e. i have no idea what's going on :) |
10:51.17 | pb_ | bedboi: which file is that exactly? |
10:51.31 | pb_ | I can't find anything in /cvs/gpe/base that's owned by users. |
10:51.45 | bedboi | drwxrwxr-t 2 pb users 4096 Jul 5 14:51 tp/ |
10:51.59 | bedboi | <PROTECTED> |
11:01.08 | JiniDog | anyone knows how I can rescale a mpeg video to 312x188? |
11:02.42 | reenoo | JiniDog: mencoder |
11:03.06 | JiniDog | I tried, but it didn't react to -vf size=312x188 |
11:03.12 | JiniDog | same as ffmpeg |
11:03.35 | hrw|work | JiniDog: then you do something wrong |
11:04.43 | JiniDog | hmm |
11:05.26 | JiniDog | maybe because they are not multipliers of 16 |
11:05.34 | XorA | scale=312:188 |
11:07.27 | JiniDog | yes, I did that, just wrote it wrong down here |
11:07.53 | JiniDog | hmm, the original is 624x376, 376 is no multiplier of 16 either |
11:14.30 | JiniDog | it works with mencoder and converting to mpeg1 |
11:15.51 | JiniDog | can you suggest video format that decodes fast other than mpeg2 org mpeg1? |
11:17.59 | hrw|work | IFF-ANIM5 |
11:18.34 | XorA | hrw|work: :-D |
11:22.35 | JiniDog | When we are at suggestions, can someone recommend a file manager for the pda? |
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11:31.54 | rob_w-cgi | gpe-filemanager ? |
11:32.13 | hrw|work | mc? |
11:38.26 | __law__ | NOTE: package gaim-1.3.1: completed |
11:38.27 | __law__ | :-) |
11:38.45 | __law__ | where should i copy the *.bb and the patch? |
11:42.09 | hrw|work | into OE bugtracker |
11:42.53 | hrw|work | h3600, h3900, simpad, jornada56x and generic "devices" script does not check for udev - rest fixed |
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11:47.05 | hrw|work | http://pastebin.ca/17030 - objections from machine maintainers? |
12:00.20 | JiniDog | how can I call gpe-filemanager? ipkg lists it as installed, but I find no atching birary |
12:03.47 | __law__ | http://bugs.openembedded.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134 :-) |
12:04.48 | lardman|work | JiniDog: have you ipkg-link'd it? |
12:04.59 | lardman|work | JiniDog: if you needed to of course |
12:19.47 | JiniDog | i did that; but it must have come with openzaurus because I didn't install it |
12:19.59 | JiniDog | Suddenly rotating the screen does not work anymore |
12:20.06 | JiniDog | root@poodle:~# DISPLAY=:0 xrandr-panelapp.sh |
12:20.06 | JiniDog | xmodmap: unable to open file '/etc/X11/xmodmap-right' for reading |
12:20.06 | JiniDog | xmodmap: 1 error encountered, aborting. |
12:20.08 | JiniDog | funny |
12:20.24 | pigeon | that file has been missing in familiar for a while... |
12:20.48 | pigeon | and also a few other xmodmap i think. |
12:20.54 | pigeon | but xrandr should still work. |
12:23.55 | JiniDog | what would be the right xrandr command? |
12:24.14 | pigeon | xrandr -o left |
12:24.15 | pigeon | xrandr -o normal |
12:24.27 | pigeon | xrandr -o right, xrandr -o inverted |
12:25.02 | JiniDog | all that doesn't change anything |
12:25.11 | pigeon | hmm... |
12:25.19 | JiniDog | It's quite funny what all doesn't work after restarts |
12:25.36 | JiniDog | At the moment rebooting hangs, ntpdate sets the time, but not the date and now this |
12:42.12 | kcallis | I have been trying to install gpe-mail, but have been unsuccessful... WHen I do a ipkg install gpe-mail, it tell me no such file. When I try to do ipkg install http://familiar.handhelds.org/packages/gpe-mail/blah.ipk. it still won't come down... What am I going wrong? |
12:42.24 | kcallis | I meant what am I doing wrong? |
12:56.58 | JiniDog | perhaps you are missing a feed which provides it? |
13:00.15 | JiniDog | solution for playing videos smoothly on poodle is to use uncompressed audio |
13:01.06 | JiniDog | but this xrandr is strange |
13:02.22 | pigeon | poodle? |
13:03.04 | JiniDog | yes |
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13:07.47 | JiniDog | after login in again it works |
13:08.05 | JiniDog | slowly I start to think there is some kind of ghost in my zaurus |
13:08.07 | florian | hi all |
13:08.12 | JiniDog | hi florian |
13:08.14 | __law__ | pb_, have you seen my new gaim version? are you the "maintainer" of gaim? |
13:08.17 | JiniDog | gpe-ghost? |
13:08.24 | __law__ | hi florian |
13:09.47 | JiniDog | software patents? |
13:13.16 | florian | yeah... or better - no software patents! |
13:13.26 | pigeon | london olympics? |
13:13.34 | JiniDog | yeah! |
13:14.16 | JiniDog | okay, mpeg4 with 150bps and uncompressed sound runs smoothly on poodle |
13:14.35 | pigeon | what's a poodle, btw? |
13:14.54 | JiniDog | SL-5600 |
13:15.14 | pigeon | hmm... |
13:15.45 | pigeon | what player is this? |
13:15.47 | JiniDog | sad thing is that the file is 500 MB big |
13:15.49 | JiniDog | gxine |
13:16.02 | pigeon | strongarm? mhz? |
13:16.24 | JiniDog | XSCALE PXA-250 with 400 MHz and a damned memory bug |
13:16.29 | pigeon | hmm... |
13:16.58 | pigeon | i was reasonably sure that any arm > 200mhz can do mp3 decoding very well with an integer only decoder like libmad... |
13:17.14 | JiniDog | it is possible to play mp3 and watching a goom visuliation |
13:17.29 | JiniDog | a small goom and only some fps but better than nothing |
13:17.34 | pigeon | hmm |
13:17.49 | JiniDog | of course it can play mp3, but the video is the problem |
13:17.55 | pigeon | my 3870 does mp3 + mp4 reasonbly well, probably not something like 30fps though. |
13:18.36 | pigeon | i was dealing with some slow arm9 board which i needed to fall back to use uncompressed audio and that wasn't fun :( |
13:21.19 | JiniDog | mpeg4 runs better than mpeg2 |
13:22.00 | JiniDog | xvid I mean |
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13:24.02 | JiniDog | I try xvid with mp3-audio, both with low bitrates |
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13:52.41 | rob_w-cgi | pigeon : what player do you use to get 30fps ?? |
13:54.04 | JiniDog | hey, that works :) |
13:54.23 | JiniDog | 60 MB big video files, I can put a bunch of them on my SD |
13:56.28 | rob_w-cgi | hmm so likely my videos arent 320x240 scaled or i use the wrong player ( gxine ) == ? |
13:57.03 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: mplayer will output to fbdev fast enough to play 320x240x30fps with only a couple of frames dropped here and there |
13:57.11 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: on 400Mhz arm |
13:59.54 | rob_w-cgi | hmm so a 3970 with a pxa 250 wil ldo the same ? |
14:01.11 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: I dont have an Ipaq, but I assume its not much different in fbdev speed from the zaurus |
14:02.22 | hrw|work | anyway pxa250 is slower then pxa255 |
14:02.45 | rob_w-cgi | right ,, so i also would need to check the scale of the video .. |
14:03.14 | JiniDog | rob_w-cgi, you need to make your video fitting |
14:03.41 | JiniDog | I need to rescale the videos, encode them in mpeg4 and use mp3-audio, both at low bitrates |
14:04.01 | JiniDog | You won't have much fun with unprepared videos |
14:04.38 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: http://openzaurus.org/wordpress/howto/encoding-and-playing-video-for-c7x0-devices/ |
14:04.47 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: thats my page about encoding videos for Z |
14:05.05 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: obviously the decoding on Ipaq is different as Im using a w100 chip |
14:05.28 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: and your fbdev might be the other orientation |
14:06.22 | JiniDog | divx is doing good too |
14:06.50 | ||cw | divx is mpeg4 |
14:07.51 | JiniDog | there are different codecs |
14:08.38 | JiniDog | okay, xvid is working and mpeg4/divx is working |
14:11.09 | JiniDog | divx seems to create less cpu-consumption |
14:11.17 | ||cw | xvid is nice |
14:11.52 | ||cw | different codecs? no, xvid IS a codec, an mpeg4 implementation to be specific, divx is another mpeg4 implementation |
14:12.17 | JiniDog | I meant that |
14:13.12 | ||cw | mplayer's mencoder is good for re-encoding xvid too |
14:13.35 | JiniDog | divx uses 10-20% less CPU than xvid, both from mencoder |
14:13.58 | ||cw | divx requires a non-"free" binary codec though |
14:14.55 | hrw|work | ||cw: since when? ffmpeg decode divx |
14:15.42 | ||cw | hrw|work: that's because its all mpeg4 |
14:15.53 | ||cw | ffmepg also does mpeg4 |
14:16.18 | XorA | xvid uses a more complex profile than divx |
14:16.27 | ||cw | all mpeg4 codec's are generaly compatable |
14:16.50 | XorA | ||cw: as long as they encode the same profile they should be 100% compatible |
14:17.22 | ||cw | right, that's up to the person doing the encoding though |
14:17.40 | JiniDog | hmm, this time the xvid is faster |
14:18.10 | JiniDog | and i would say it looks better at the same bitrate |
14:18.45 | XorA | xvid does better tricks, but uses more cpu to decode its streams in my experience |
14:18.45 | JiniDog | hmm, no not really |
14:19.15 | JiniDog | as long at it is fluid, it is okay |
14:24.05 | rob_w-cgi | XorA : thanks for the link ! |
14:34.31 | rob_w-cgi | XorA: does this method apply also to mpeg video`s? |
14:35.07 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: it will do anything mplayer can play |
14:35.45 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: you can feed it dvd:// to do dvds |
14:36.01 | rob_w-cgi | i see , cool |
14:36.32 | XorA | rob_w-cgi: my script powers are lacking to I might have screwed up the escapes, but the method is sound |
14:37.01 | ||cw | you can feed it any type of input that your mplayer install supports, including things that use the win32 codecs if you have them installed |
14:42.29 | rob_w-cgi | hmm i get File not found: 'frameno.avi'Failed to open frameno.aviNo file given |
14:43.56 | JiniDog | you call mencoder wrong |
14:44.53 | JiniDog | konvert is nice frontend; I won't run it because it is not complete and locks the xv-extension, but it builds the right commandline |
14:50.47 | rob_w-cgi | i dont find even that konvert |
14:50.49 | rob_w-cgi | tsts |
14:51.16 | JiniDog | under gentoo "emerge konvert" :) |
14:51.42 | JiniDog | ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge konvert |
14:51.46 | JiniDog | to be exactly |
14:52.19 | JiniDog | hmm, again; I want to list how much money I get in and how much I spend and I want to note what for |
14:52.40 | JiniDog | can anyone recommend a app with which I can do that good on the zaurus? |
14:52.47 | JiniDog | despite from a text-editor |
14:53.09 | JiniDog | a table-calculation maybe, but I think the only from OE is abiword |
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14:59.34 | pb_ | gnumeric? |
15:00.23 | XorA | pb_: when someone gets it to compile |
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15:00.52 | hrw|work | JiniDog: I prefer "apt-get install konvert" - it is faster |
15:01.37 | XorA | hrw|work: I prefer to avoid words beginning with K |
15:02.25 | hrw|work | XorA: I do the same with "g" |
15:02.54 | florian | XorA: :-) |
15:03.18 | XorA | hrw|work: luckilly gnome and nome are pronoucned the same |
15:03.46 | pb_ | XorA: what's wrong with it? It used to build fine. |
15:04.16 | XorA | pb_: cant remeber exacly, koen was trying to make it compile, I havent managed to for months, but my build machine is turned off so I cant run up the errors |
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15:12.15 | rob_w-cgi | duh a ext2 on a 1GB disk ends up in 760 MB usable .. thats hard |
15:20.25 | gdsx | rob_w-cgi: is that with or without the 5%-for-root restriction? |
15:23.02 | rob_w-cgi | ?? |
15:23.12 | rob_w-cgi | what is that ? |
15:23.35 | hrw|work | rob_w-cgi: 5% for superuser |
15:24.00 | rob_w-cgi | hmm how can i check this and get rid of it ?? |
15:26.34 | florian | tune2fs does this... |
15:41.07 | rob_w-cgi | ok tuned it but still the same .. |
15:44.49 | JiniDog | hrw|gone, I really don't want to discuss which distribution is better, for me everyone who uses linux is a good guy and what distribution he uses is a matter of taste (or knowledge) |
15:49.29 | rob_w-cgi | ~hail JiniDog |
15:49.29 | ibot | ACTION bows down to JiniDog and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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16:06.17 | JiniDog | ? |
16:13.35 | florian | bbl |
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17:21.11 | JiniDog | anyone knows, does gcc-4.0 promise performance improvments on arm? |
17:21.30 | JiniDog | or do we have to wait until gcc-4.1 |
17:24.17 | JiniDog | I was so free to correct the link for the gpe-sources in the wiki |
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17:34.12 | JiniDog | Can someone give me a hint why perl-5.8.4 out of OE fails because of a missing file named miniperl? |
17:38.09 | mickeyl | because the perl.bb is broken in OE |
17:38.38 | mickeyl | there doesn't seem to be much interest in perl, so no one fixed it yet |
17:41.26 | JiniDog | I need it for abiword |
17:45.43 | XorA | mickeyl: JiniDog its a works for me problem |
17:50.45 | mickeyl | sounds like you should build it on a system where perl is not installed to debug that problem :) |
18:19.31 | JiniDog | hmm, gpe-filemanager says everytime "invalid url" |
18:19.38 | JiniDog | I must have some problems with dbus |
18:23.32 | JiniDog | or message-bus? |
18:27.52 | JiniDog | ah, gnome-vfs-plugin-file was missing |
18:28.03 | JiniDog | Should be a full dependencie |
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19:10.05 | mimecar | hi peopple |
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19:18.15 | mimecar | hi reenoo_ |
19:19.19 | reenoo | hi mimecar |
19:19.21 | reenoo | evening all |
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19:50.10 | JiniDog | is it correct that gpe-login still is using memory after having started matchbox completly? |
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19:53.15 | reenoo | hey pb_ |
19:53.24 | pb_ | reenoo: good evening |
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20:29.48 | mimecar | hi |
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22:23.26 | reenoo | 'night all |
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22:34.44 | dballester | hi to all |
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