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| 06:40.03 | rob_w-cgi | hey all |
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| 07:07.58 | koen | good morning all |
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| 07:53.54 | reenoo | morning |
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| 08:00.35 | reenoo | hi rob_w-cgi |
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| 08:03.00 | florian_kc | good morning |
| 08:03.48 | koen | hey reenoo & rob_w-cgi |
| 08:03.54 | koen | florian_kc: congratulations |
| 08:06.03 | florian_kc | hehe |
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| 08:11.26 | koen | reenoo: I rolled backed the kdrive stuff *cry* |
| 08:12.25 | reenoo | morning florian_kc |
| 08:12.46 | reenoo | florian_kc: married? congratulations! |
| 08:13.13 | florian_kc | reenoo: yes - thank you! |
| 08:13.17 | reenoo | koen: ah, right. well.. better than broken X I guess |
| 08:13.45 | koen | at least we know the cause of the tslib problem, the apm stuff is still inknown |
| 08:16.06 | reenoo | btw.. http://www.abisource.com/mailinglists/abiword-dev/2005/Jun/0277.html |
| 08:19.19 | florian_kc | reenoo: oh... they have Gnumeric running too... |
| 08:19.21 | koen | yeah, I just read that on pgo |
| 08:19.45 | koen | oooh, gnumeric |
| 08:20.14 | florian_kc | but someone should tell them about osso-screenshot-tool or just scap |
| 08:21.28 | koen | http://www.indt.org.br/maemo/zeroconf/index.html |
| 08:21.39 | koen | I was looking at that stuff for gpe a while ago |
| 08:22.31 | koen | together with rendezvous |
| 08:24.50 | koen | have you seen http://mobile.newsforge.com/mobility/05/06/08/1948202.shtml?tid=97&tid=2 ? |
| 08:25.20 | reenoo | yah |
| 08:27.36 | koen | florian_kc: do you have any links for the maemo gnumeric? |
| 08:28.37 | florian_kc | koen: scroll down in the blog mentioned in the abiword mail |
| 08:28.54 | koen | D'oh |
| 08:30.01 | florian_kc | koen: these Nokia guys did a large pile of stuff we thought about but never managed to do. |
| 08:31.21 | koen | indeed |
| 08:33.08 | koen | but adapting to 720x420 is a lot easier a adapting stuff to 240x320 |
| 08:33.31 | florian_kc | right... but that's the simplest part. |
| 08:34.05 | florian_kc | for me the most exiting stuff is the configuration framework - thats very close to what i had in mind for gpe-conf. |
| 08:34.18 | koen | steal it |
| 08:35.00 | florian_kc | as soon as i have some free time i investigate if it is a good idea to use it. |
| 08:39.18 | reenoo | ~lart Haskell GUI toolkits for requiring the use of an IORef |
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| 08:56.56 | florian_kc | hi mickeyl |
| 08:57.44 | florian_kc | koen: which package in oe is responsible for the initial contents of /var? |
| 08:59.50 | koen | basefiles? |
| 09:01.09 | JiniDog | Anyone know how I can compile pcmcia-cs without PCI support in the kernel? |
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| 09:01.31 | koen | diseable pci support at all? |
| 09:01.35 | koen | good morning mallum |
| 09:02.03 | mallum | hey hey |
| 09:02.06 | mickeyl | morning florian |
| 09:02.20 | JiniDog | I have the openzaurus kernel and the pcmcia-build says: |
| 09:02.20 | JiniDog | Cardbus support requires kernel PCI bus support! |
| 09:02.20 | JiniDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:02.34 | koen | so disable cardbus |
| 09:02.43 | koen | no handheld has cardbus support |
| 09:03.01 | JiniDog | hmm, that is the openzaurus poodle-config |
| 09:03.18 | koen | you'll have to talk to the OZ people for that |
| 09:03.30 | reenoo | hey mallum |
| 09:04.04 | JiniDog | I take it out of the config; if no pda has cardbus it shouldn't be in the binary kernel anyway |
| 09:04.47 | florian_kc | koen: ah... i got the point... my default fstab didn't have /var in tmpfs. |
| 09:05.14 | koen | aha |
| 09:05.50 | JiniDog | cardbus is in connection with pcmcia what is used by openzaurus |
| 09:06.08 | reenoo | JiniDog: #openzaurus |
| 09:06.12 | koen | again, talk to the openzaurus people |
| 09:18.37 | koen | sweet, gpe boots on the hx4700 |
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| 09:39.05 | florian_kc | koen: very nice! |
| 09:39.38 | florian_kc | koen: tell nelson to do his job ;-) |
| 09:40.09 | koen | florian_kc: Xfbdev swap x and y atm |
| 09:40.15 | koen | do you know a fix for that? |
| 09:40.55 | koen | it looks something like this: http://handhelds.org/scap/land.16070.png |
| 09:41.48 | florian_kc | koen: oh... iirc there is a way to fix this in ts.conf... i can remeber we had this a loong time ago somewhere else. |
| 09:42.33 | koen | not an entr in /etc/X11? |
| 09:42.38 | koen | entry* |
| 09:44.04 | koen | hmmm |
| 09:44.47 | florian_kc | "module linear xyswap" |
| 09:45.05 | koen | that swaps it for the ts |
| 09:45.14 | koen | I need to get it to display right |
| 09:46.33 | florian_kc | koen: uh... i misunderstood.... right.... /etc/X11/Xserver contains some stuff to handle orientation. |
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| 09:51.29 | florian_kc | hey pb_ |
| 09:51.40 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 09:51.45 | pb_ | are you a married man now? |
| 09:54.48 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 09:55.09 | florian_kc | pb_: yeah |
| 09:55.25 | pb_ | florian_kc: heh, congratulations |
| 09:55.30 | pb_ | hi koen |
| 09:55.47 | florian_kc | pb_: thak you! |
| 09:56.01 | florian_kc | s/thak/thank |
| 09:56.24 | florian_kc | our gpe stuff is that nice compare to their mess... |
| 10:27.39 | koen | ~dict callous |
| 10:28.00 | koen | ibot: thanks |
| 10:28.01 | ibot | gern geschehen, koen |
| 10:28.29 | koen | ibot: Sie sprechen Deutch? |
| 10:28.42 | koen | thought so |
| 10:29.18 | florian_kc | :-) |
| 10:29.48 | koen | "warziges Warzenschwein" |
| 10:30.20 | koen | "mürrische Murmeltier" |
| 10:30.30 | koen | even Ubuntu sounds better in german |
| 10:33.25 | florian_kc | koen: ehh.. do you talk about your lunch?! ;-) |
| 10:34.42 | koen | :) |
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| 10:56.19 | lardman | morning all |
| 10:56.32 | koen | hey lardman |
| 10:56.39 | lardman | hi koen |
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| 11:38.19 | lardman|work | reenoo: did you see my patches & alterations to giac? |
| 11:40.14 | florian_kc | hi lardman|work |
| 11:41.09 | lardman|work | hi florian_kc |
| 11:41.31 | koen | Arjan: congrats on the BScC |
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| 11:42.22 | koen | hey dc_ |
| 11:43.48 | reenoo | lardman|work: I've seen those, yeah. haven't had a chance to look into them in detail though. (fwiw, you could have made that task easier by attaching the patches instead of linking to them and more importantly by providing a patch against the current .bb instead of a new file) |
| 11:43.56 | florian_kc | ah, mr. tanner :-) |
| 11:44.26 | dc_ | hey |
| 11:44.31 | dc_ | I setup wifi in the cafe |
| 11:44.31 | dc_ | :) |
| 11:44.38 | dc_ | sitting here having a coffe and a bagel |
| 11:44.51 | florian_kc | hmm... i need some food too |
| 11:45.17 | dc_ | only 3 exmas left! |
| 11:46.06 | lardman|work | reenoo: sorry, I'll sort that out now if you want |
| 11:46.29 | lardman|work | reenoo: the bugtracker didn;t appear to want to let me attach any files when I submitted the 'bug', only afterwards |
| 11:46.53 | lardman|work | reenoo: Also, for such a short file (the .bb) it seemed to be overkill to produce a patch, but each to his own |
| 11:47.20 | koen | bk doesn't really allow overwriting files |
| 11:47.28 | reenoo | lardman|work: thanks |
| 11:47.30 | lardman|work | ok, point taken |
| 11:48.42 | reenoo | lardman|work: the reason is unrelated to bk btw. the idea is that you can review a (unified) patch by just looking at it. you can directly see what's been changed. |
| 11:49.10 | lardman|work | reenoo: okay |
| 11:50.08 | Arjan | koen: thanks :) |
| 11:50.15 | lardman|work | Can someone give me an url to the current giac_0.5.0.bb? |
| 11:50.35 | lardman|work | Or can bk perform a diff somehow using the data in the repository as the comparison? |
| 11:50.45 | reenoo | bk diffs -u |
| 11:51.00 | reenoo | bk diffs -u path/to/.bb |
| 11:51.03 | reenoo | rather |
| 11:51.31 | koen | bk -r diffs -u |
| 11:51.46 | koen | or was that bk -r diff -u? |
| 11:51.54 | lardman|work | -r gives broken pipe |
| 11:58.08 | lardman|work | I'm afraid I don't have the latest giac (which reenoo altered 38 hours ago), so the patch I've attached will not apply correctly |
| 11:58.15 | lardman|work | I'll fix it when I have some more time |
| 11:59.46 | reenoo | lardman|busy: don't worry about that. |
| 12:00.11 | koen | good call on the bk diffs |
| 12:00.47 | reenoo | koen: hmm? |
| 12:01.08 | koen | see #oe in a minute |
| 12:01.15 | reenoo | hehe |
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| 12:33.46 | bedboi | hi there |
| 12:33.52 | koen | hey bedboi |
| 12:33.55 | florian_kc | hi bedboi |
| 12:34.01 | bedboi | any news so far? |
| 12:34.09 | bedboi | i've been really busy these days. |
| 12:34.41 | koen | Xora and florian got married |
| 12:34.47 | koen | (not to each other) |
| 12:34.59 | bedboi | florian_kc: is it true? |
| 12:35.24 | florian_kc | bedboi: yes |
| 12:35.32 | bedboi | congratulations! |
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| 12:46.25 | mickeyl | is there something known about the wifi chipset used in the 770 ? |
| 12:47.01 | koen | yes |
| 12:47.11 | koen | mickeyl: http://www.conexant.com/products/entry.jsp?id=900 |
| 12:47.32 | mickeyl | uh oh |
| 12:47.38 | mickeyl | not sure if i like that |
| 12:47.48 | koen | same here |
| 12:48.07 | koen | I like the fact that it's ultra low power and an arm9 |
| 12:48.18 | koen | I don't like the prospect of binary drivers |
| 12:48.28 | mickeyl | let alone rfmon capable drivers |
| 12:48.31 | mickeyl | or even WE confirm |
| 12:48.34 | mickeyl | conform even |
| 12:52.38 | koen | finally a non messed up way to build and install e17 debs |
| 12:52.51 | koen | (although I could have used OE too ) |
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| 13:04.49 | florian_kc | bedboi: thanks! |
| 13:23.10 | bedboi | mallum: are you there? |
| 13:23.30 | mallum | bedboi: yep |
| 13:26.59 | bedboi | mallum: how much ram matchbox takes? |
| 13:29.17 | mallum | bedboi: depends |
| 13:29.39 | mallum | bedboi: on how you compile it, how big your display is, how many clients are running etc |
| 13:29.57 | bedboi | ok, let's say the debian one |
| 13:30.15 | bedboi | a friend of mine would use that if it's less memory hungry than wmaker |
| 13:32.13 | mallum | bedboi: well if he's running on a desktop I would stick with wmake or something like fluxbox or something |
| 13:34.57 | mallum | bedboi: matchbox is not the kind of program that you can say it uses X amount of memory |
| 13:35.14 | mallum | bedboi: too many varibles |
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| 13:49.39 | koen | florian_kc: looks like we have to patch less stuff in the next maemo releases |
| 13:52.08 | florian_kc | re |
| 13:52.23 | florian_kc | koen: i hope so |
| 13:53.23 | florian_kc | ah |
| 13:53.27 | florian_kc | koen: right :-) |
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| 15:36.30 | sage | hi |
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| 15:40.56 | lardman|work | Do iPAQs have LEDs? |
| 15:41.33 | lardman|work | If so, is there anywhere in particular they are controlled from (other than in the kernel) - e.g. do they have a mail LED which needs to be controlled from user-space? |
| 15:46.06 | koen | they have leds |
| 15:46.23 | koen | pb_ is as close as it gets to a led-master in #gpe |
| 15:47.25 | lardman|work | thanks koen |
| 15:47.35 | lardman|work | pb_: ping |
| 15:50.58 | lardman|work | I was looking through ODevice from Opie as I want to hack together a version of bl which will work for the Zaurus (to begin with), then everything else |
| 15:51.27 | lardman|work | and was wondering whether to pull out the LED control stuff and stick it somewhere |
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| 16:16.58 | pb_ | hi dc_ |
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| 17:05.06 | _law_ | the speed on application which are installed on sd is :-( |
| 17:06.50 | _law_ | why? |
| 17:08.02 | koen | crap sd drivers? |
| 17:10.01 | _law_ | is there a why to speed them up? |
| 17:12.50 | koen | on 2.4 sharp: no, on 2.6: maybe |
| 17:13.20 | _law_ | koen: but 2.6 on 5xxx :-( |
| 17:13.34 | _law_ | there is no sd driver support jet :-) |
| 17:13.39 | _law_ | yet |
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| 17:25.29 | _law_ | RP: http://pastebin.com/300992 :-( |
| 17:27.12 | koen | _law_: you need a newer xextensions if you want to use that kdrive snap |
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| 17:31.52 | sageLin | hi |
| 17:32.07 | koen | hey sageLin |
| 17:40.21 | sageLin | Why windows of dialogues are not drawn (buttons, the text)? Appear only after moving dialogue. |
| 17:40.43 | koen | composite bug |
| 17:40.56 | koen | disable "special effects" in the look and feel applet |
| 17:41.22 | sageLin | hm... bug ( |
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| 17:43.56 | sageLin | contol panel not opened (device: HP h5550) why? |
| 17:44.25 | koen | use settings -> look and feel |
| 17:45.06 | sageLin | koen: i use it, but why conrol panel not open, when i tap it |
| 17:45.43 | koen | the control panel icon shouldn't be there |
| 17:47.43 | sageLin | why wi-fi already work? |
| 17:48.00 | sageLin | how to switch off? |
| 17:48.40 | koen | rmmod the modules |
| 17:49.12 | sageLin | remove rmmod? |
| 17:49.31 | koen | no, rmmod the modules |
| 17:58.37 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:11.50 | sageLin | how to press "up" on virtual keyboard? |
| 18:12.32 | koen | you can't |
| 18:12.38 | koen | the the joypad |
| 18:17.43 | sageLin | Why lateral buttons do not adjust a sound? |
| 18:17.46 | sageLin | h5550 |
| 18:18.32 | koen | because the buttons aren't mapped yet |
| 18:20.30 | sageLin | how to mapped? |
| 18:20.55 | koen | xmodmap I guess |
| 18:21.37 | Philippe | evening guys |
| 18:21.51 | koen | he Philippe |
| 18:25.08 | sageLin | bb |
| 18:28.02 | florian_kc | hi Philippe |
| 18:28.29 | Philippe | hello florian_kc |
| 18:30.00 | Philippe | And florian_kc how do we feel today? |
| 18:32.32 | florian_kc | Philippe: well... not that different ;-) |
| 18:32.43 | Philippe | Good :-) |
| 18:33.29 | Philippe | I wondered. Is it okay to check in that gpe-edit help patch? (I need to try out my recently aquired cvs access :-) ) |
| 18:33.56 | Philippe | And it would be nice now that I almost finished porting the help-viewer to webcore. |
| 18:34.31 | florian_kc | ah okay... why not :-) |
| 18:34.34 | florian_kc | oh cool! |
| 18:34.48 | Philippe | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21800.png |
| 18:35.24 | Philippe | That is how it looked yesterday (and also today, but now the back and forward buttons work again) |
| 18:35.51 | florian_kc | Philippe: uh! using webcore?! |
| 18:36.09 | Philippe | yep! |
| 18:36.21 | Philippe | webi_go_forward and webi_go_back... |
| 18:37.01 | florian_kc | coool! |
| 18:37.58 | Philippe | Well I am planning to use this as a base for a browser. (adding a stop and reload, and a button that pops up a url dialog to save screen estate) |
| 18:39.18 | koen | florian_kc: what was the deal with gpe-calendar for maemo again? |
| 18:39.27 | koen | did nokia have a person to do it? |
| 18:40.06 | Philippe | koen, make sure they send you a N770 before you finish it :-) |
| 18:40.22 | florian_kc | Philippe: that would rock |
| 18:40.22 | koen | I did win the discount :) |
| 18:41.12 | florian_kc | koen: no... or they were not able to find the person who worked on it. but i don't think it is that hard... but i need some free time to do this. |
| 18:41.19 | Philippe | Can somebody check in the new bb file for the helpviewer for me later on? |
| 18:41.49 | koen | Philippe: attach it to oe bugzilla: bugs.openembedded.org |
| 18:41.59 | Philippe | ok koen, will do. |
| 18:42.09 | koen | florian_kc: I still have a bounty open for calendar improvements.... |
| 18:42.39 | koen | reenoo: wb |
| 18:42.50 | reenoo | re |
| 18:42.59 | reenoo | koen: bounty? |
| 18:43.08 | koen | Philippe: the movie "satan's school for girls" featuring shannon doherty...... |
| 18:43.16 | koen | need I say more about the movie? |
| 18:44.09 | koen | reenoo: yes, someone persuaded me to sponsor the gpe project |
| 18:45.04 | reenoo | koen: heh. cool. |
| 18:46.24 | Philippe | koen sound horrible... |
| 18:46.46 | Philippe | the movie I mean... |
| 18:47.00 | koen | yeah |
| 18:47.13 | koen | it's the best thing what's on tv atm |
| 18:47.26 | koen | (which says a lot on the general quality) |
| 18:47.30 | Philippe | lucky you have a laptop around... |
| 18:47.53 | koen | indeed, and a ipaqq to mess with |
| 18:48.01 | florian_kc | koen: heh right :-) |
| 18:49.09 | lardman|work | night all |
| 18:49.29 | univac | l2ping -f 00:02:C7:0D:7E:65 |
| 18:49.29 | univac | Can't connect: Permission denied |
| 18:49.33 | univac | why? |
| 18:49.43 | koen | dunno |
| 18:49.58 | koen | most likely the link key is invalid |
| 18:50.12 | univac | hmm i have bluez on my computer and pda |
| 18:50.22 | univac | and where can i pairing devices? |
| 18:50.37 | univac | i adding info in rfcomm.conf |
| 18:52.01 | univac | rfcomm connect hci0 00:02:C7:0D:7E:65 1 |
| 18:52.01 | univac | Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Permission denied |
| 18:54.13 | univac | ;[ |
| 19:10.18 | florian_kc | bbl |
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| 19:53.16 | koen | florian_: wb |
| 19:55.48 | Philippe | well florian was gone quickly again :-) |
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| 19:56.24 | koen | and he's back again |
| 19:56.34 | florian_ | :-) |
| 19:57.43 | Philippe | hey Florian, I have troubles accessing the CVS. Can you help me out? |
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| 20:01.45 | florian_ | Philippe: i can try |
| 20:02.51 | Philippe | It seems to ignore my public key. |
| 20:03.33 | Philippe | I added it to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on my machine, set CVS_RSH=ssh |
| 20:04.27 | koen | Philippe: try doing 'ssh handhelds.org' to see if the keys work |
| 20:04.47 | florian_ | hmmm you need that file at hh.org |
| 20:05.26 | Philippe | Nothing. France told me however It was added. |
| 20:06.15 | koen | ugh. any more dogs with red glowing eyes and people referring to the "dark side" and I'm going to scream |
| 20:07.45 | Philippe | florian_, with ssh -v I see that my keys are presented but no messages that it gets accepted. Should I mail France about that? |
| 20:08.18 | koen | woohoo! |
| 20:08.31 | reenoo | Philippe: why don't you just log in with your kerberos pwd and add the key by yourself? |
| 20:09.00 | koen | because kerberos isn't working and people don't get that anymore? |
| 20:09.10 | Philippe | reenoo, I have no kerberos pwd. |
| 20:09.17 | reenoo | ah, ok |
| 20:09.54 | koen | your rsa key should be in your .authorized keys on hh.org |
| 20:10.28 | koen | make sure the private key is in your ~/.ssh at home |
| 20:10.48 | florian_ | hmm wait |
| 20:11.16 | koen | Philippe: 'philippe' |
| 20:11.46 | florian_ | Does that webfrontend to change the public key work? |
| 20:12.30 | koen | admin.hh.org is down atm |
| 20:12.58 | Philippe | ok koen, brilliant... other username than my login name :-) |
| 20:13.03 | Philippe | Now I got in. |
| 20:13.12 | florian_ | heh |
| 20:23.01 | koen | Philippe: http://handhelds.org:8080/gpe/chngview?cn=218 |
| 20:31.15 | florian_ | Philippe: congratulations |
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| 20:47.49 | lardman | evening all |
| 20:48.36 | koen | hey lardman |
| 20:48.43 | lardman | Hi koen |
| 20:48.54 | lardman | I've been hacking at bl (/usr/bin/bl)... |
| 20:49.10 | lardman | unfortunately my Zaurus 2.6.x version segfaults... |
| 20:49.37 | lardman | but I was wondering if I should add functionality for all of the devices, or have a seperate version for each machine... |
| 20:49.50 | lardman | which can be chosen (somehow) by OE |
| 20:49.53 | lardman | Any ideas? |
| 20:50.09 | koen | no idea |
| 20:50.20 | koen | you could post that question on gpe@handhelds.org |
| 20:50.24 | lardman | Where all devices = everything which Odevice from Opie supports (as that's what I'm copying) |
| 20:51.08 | lardman | It's more of a philosophical question - it would probably be easier to separate the functionality for each device... |
| 20:51.23 | lardman | but it might be nice to keep it all together to cut admin, etc. |
| 20:51.44 | koen | device dependant packages are usually annoyig |
| 20:51.53 | koen | annoying even |
| 20:52.23 | lardman | yes, but at the moment the image I build for my Zaurus has no /usr/bin/bl, so it's obviously possible to add/separate them out |
| 20:52.47 | koen | it is |
| 20:53.25 | koen | but having one "works for all" magic binary is *very* nice |
| 20:53.43 | lardman | yes that's true, even if it's a bit more wasteful (overhead-wise) |
| 20:54.01 | lardman | (overhead as in having to check for the machine type everytime the binary is run) |
| 20:54.12 | koen | yeah |
| 20:54.22 | koen | but how much is that overhead? |
| 20:54.25 | koen | 5ms? |
| 20:54.37 | lardman | I don't know, also depends on how often it's run |
| 20:54.59 | lardman | so, yes I agree with you - an all-in-one would be the best plan |
| 20:55.29 | lardman | Now I need to track down my segfault - what tends to cause them (*ducks*) |
| 20:55.33 | lardman | ? |
| 20:55.45 | koen | segmentations :) |
| 20:55.50 | koen | that's all I know |
| 20:56.07 | reenoo | segmentation violations rather |
| 20:56.19 | lardman | hmm, not really any the wiser :) |
| 20:56.54 | lardman | I had high hopes too! I spent an hour trying to work out how to write c (never used it) |
| 20:57.25 | lardman | Time to bring strace & gdb to bear |
| 20:58.00 | reenoo | lardman, koen: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Segmentation_%28memory%29 |
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| 20:58.26 | lardman | reenoo: thank you |
| 20:58.55 | reenoo | long story short. you're trying to access memory that isn't yours |
| 20:58.57 | lardman | so basically it's a messed up pointer which points outside of the currently allowed area..? |
| 20:59.03 | reenoo | right |
| 20:59.54 | lardman | Okay, I'll have to do some debuggerating (I copied a load of the functions over from ODevice pretty much as were) |
| 21:00.01 | reenoo | or access to an already free()'ed pointer |
| 21:00.23 | lardman | ah, that sounds like it could well happen (in my dodgy code ;) ) |
| 21:01.28 | lardman | I missed pb_ earlier about the LED control (as it's another thing which is in ODevice) |
| 21:01.57 | lardman | I don't suppose anyone else knows off the top of their heads whether/how LEDs are controlled onn iPAQs from userspace? |
| 21:02.38 | reenoo | I think there used to be an "led" app |
| 21:03.03 | lardman | That's what I was wondering - something similar to bl |
| 21:03.09 | reenoo | yeah |
| 21:03.26 | lardman | reenoo: I'm sorry about my retort on the bug tracker - I've had a bad day |
| 21:03.56 | lardman | I agree with some of your points, but do think that getting something out is the priority |
| 21:04.06 | reenoo | lardman: heh. np |
| 21:04.59 | lardman | I guess one way to eliminate some of my patches would be to specify tex*/latex/makeinfo as required software |
| 21:05.19 | lardman | which would be less painful than having to create -native packages |
| 21:06.14 | koen | creating classpath-native + deps is painfull |
| 21:06.45 | reenoo | lardman: yeah. OE is a bit lacking in that area. the problem is that native packages (originating from your distro of choice) are often rather broken and we cannot even rely on those... |
| 21:06.56 | lardman | yeah |
| 21:07.18 | reenoo | lardman: docbook2* and friends in particular |
| 21:07.35 | lardman | regarding mpfr - I don't think there's an issue there - I couldn't (for the life of me get it to compile) |
| 21:07.56 | reenoo | built fine here >:) |
| 21:08.21 | lardman | really?!?! |
| 21:08.26 | lardman | when? |
| 21:08.58 | reenoo | yesterday I think |
| 21:09.26 | reenoo | or the day before |
| 21:09.31 | lardman | oh, well in that case add it in as a dep (I'll have another go tomorrow) |
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| 21:09.59 | lardman | (though I'm not sure I *need* exact rounding for fp numbers >64bits ;) ) |
| 21:10.29 | lardman | aaahhh |
| 21:10.38 | lardman | Of course |
| 21:10.44 | lardman | the API problem |
| 21:11.13 | lardman | I couldn't work out how/whether it's possible to grab an old snapshot from CVS - is it possible? |
| 21:11.36 | koen | yes |
| 21:11.47 | koen | see xserver_kdriver_2005* |
| 21:11.55 | koen | kdrive even |
| 21:11.55 | lardman | Because I don't really have the time atm to look at migrating giac to the latest API (and that's what the giac devs should be doing) |
| 21:12.27 | lardman | ok, I'll take a look at that and see if mpfr 2.0.1 can be pulled out and built |
| 21:13.21 | koen | 'night all |
| 21:13.28 | lardman | night koen |
| 21:13.35 | reenoo | lardman: well.. I guess we could just wrap that AC_CHECK_LIB call in an AC_ARG_ENABLE and call it a day |
| 21:14.06 | lardman | As you might have noticed, configure scripts aren't my forte |
| 21:15.08 | lardman | You seem to know what you're talking about |
| 21:15.17 | reenoo | I'll look into that when I have a few minutes to spare |
| 21:15.35 | reenoo | pretty busy with work + university stuff ATM |
| 21:15.41 | lardman | likewise :) |
| 21:16.37 | lardman | At some point I should get back 'round to adding R to OE - a painful process to say the least |
| 21:18.47 | lardman | I'm going to head off, night all |
| 21:37.15 | Philippe | for the people that want to try out the helpviewer. http://stag.mind.be/gpe-helpviewer.html |
| 21:37.59 | Philippe | The doc package is higly recommended if you want to see more than a basic page with only a title |
| 21:38.25 | Philippe | If you already have gtk-webcore installed all dependencies should be met. |
| 21:38.46 | reenoo | Philippe: best post that to the list I guess (gpe@) |
| 21:39.21 | Philippe | reenoo, indeed |
| 21:45.44 | florian_ | Philippe: very nice |
| 21:46.43 | Philippe | thanks florian :-) |
| 21:47.18 | Philippe | florian_, So I assume it works for you? |
| 21:48.20 | florian_ | Philippe: not tried so far... first i need to figgt the german tax system :-( |
| 21:48.26 | florian_ | eh fight |
| 21:48.51 | Philippe | Well my Belgian taxes are just in... I finished that fight (at least for this year) |
| 21:55.02 | florian_ | yeah... i'm a little bit late this year |
| 21:55.44 | Philippe | anybody knows how I can get a login at http://handhelds.org/~gpe/gallery/ (our gallery) So that I can add a screenshot. |
| 22:04.24 | florian_ | Philippe: of course |
| 22:06.06 | reenoo | ~lart rhythmbox/gstreamer for skipping like crazy |
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| 22:09.25 | reenoo | heh |
| 22:09.37 | reenoo | it took revenge for that at segfaulted at me |
| 22:09.58 | reenoo | s/at/and/ |
| 22:14.03 | florian_ | :-) |
| 22:17.28 | Philippe | goodnight all |
| 22:17.35 | reenoo | 'night Philippe |
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| 22:49.43 | florian_ | hi dc_ |
| 23:08.11 | reenoo | 'night all |
| 23:47.03 | florian_ | good night |
