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| 02:23.21 | ReleaseX | hello |
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| 07:00.47 | rob_w-cgi | hi all |
| 07:05.44 | _law_ | hi R6s_Poor |
| 07:05.48 | _law_ | hi rob_w-cgi :-) |
| 07:06.09 | _law_ | the hand is quicker as the eye |
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| 07:10.19 | rob_w-cgi | am i the only one suffering from a "alignment problem " from gxine ? |
| 07:10.38 | rob_w-cgi | also my sound supppor tseems to be gone |
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| 08:04.08 | florian_kc | hi all |
| 08:07.14 | rob_w-cgi | guys i am suffering of 2 things ( or its related to each other ) gxine causes alignment traps and therefore doesnt play sound anymore ? what do i need to do? |
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| 08:12.41 | basiliscus | good morning to all |
| 08:19.18 | florian_kc | hi basiliscus |
| 08:19.31 | basiliscus | hi florian_kc |
| 08:19.42 | florian_kc | Cwiiis is the gxine guru... |
| 08:20.14 | _law_ | xserver-kdrive whats that? xorg alternative? |
| 08:22.23 | florian_kc | _law_: no... its a part of it. |
| 08:28.31 | _law_ | if my xorg server compiles kdrive is next? :-) |
| 08:30.40 | florian_kc | maybe :-) |
| 08:31.10 | _law_ | have you compiled xorg server with oe? |
| 08:32.09 | florian_kc | last time i tried it was broken, but kdrive seems to be ok |
| 08:34.15 | _law_ | if have tryed 6.8, 6.8.99 and 6.8.1cvs nothing works ;-) |
| 08:34.30 | _law_ | perhabs there is an error in the bb file |
| 08:34.44 | florian_kc | yes... mayb |
| 08:34.45 | florian_kc | e |
| 08:40.08 | koen | good morning all |
| 08:41.03 | florian_kc | hi koen |
| 08:41.07 | koen | hey florian_kc |
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| 09:13.15 | florian_kc | hi pb_, hi mickeyl |
| 09:13.43 | pb_ | florian_kc: good morning! |
| 09:14.13 | mickeyl | good morning florian |
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| 09:19.52 | florian_kc | hi dc_ |
| 09:19.56 | florian_kc | uh |
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| 10:49.07 | koen | florian: you seem to have lost your usual suffix |
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| 11:02.27 | florian | koen: yes... i switched my workstation off to put in another disk |
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| 12:10.03 | florian_kc | mallum: is there a way to make the font of matchbox-desktop normal instead of bold? |
| 12:10.22 | mallum | florian_kc: yeah |
| 12:10.31 | mallum | florian_kc: check the themeing manual |
| 12:25.48 | jserv2 | Recently, I am playing GPE on Intel PXA270 (mainstorm2). |
| 12:25.58 | jserv2 | Everything works well. :) |
| 12:26.32 | koen | cool |
| 12:26.47 | jserv2 | However, I noticed that the expose theme in matchbox-theme-extra is a bit slow than I expected. |
| 12:27.08 | koen | you can use rob_w-cgi's expose-light |
| 12:27.37 | jserv2 | Is that the reason why the theme didn't get shipped with official GPE repository? |
| 12:27.48 | rob_w-cgi | i didnt pack a ipk yet .. |
| 12:27.58 | jserv2 | rob_w-cgi: hi |
| 12:28.04 | jserv2 | rob_w-cgi: where can I find it? |
| 12:29.48 | rob_w-cgi | hmm .. what i did was very simple ( dispite some icon changes ) get into the /usr/share/themes/expose/gtk-2.0/ config file and delete the bg[XXX] calls with calls to xpm images .. these cost you the most time and cpu |
| 12:30.17 | rob_w-cgi | seems the xpms which are used are either too big or too slow in using in a mb-theme |
| 12:30.36 | rob_w-cgi | it still will be some kinda slow but much better then before |
| 12:31.08 | jserv2 | rob_w-cgi: okay, thanks for the hints. :) |
| 12:31.18 | rob_w-cgi | ur welcom |
| 12:31.59 | jserv2 | also kudo to o-hand.com :) |
| 12:32.59 | jserv2 | After I modified only one line of touchscreen driver, GPE works. |
| 12:33.36 | jserv2 | I like it, and I felt GPE works faster than Qtopia. |
| 12:33.37 | koen | oooh, http://www.cookingforengineers.com/ |
| 12:33.39 | jserv2 | awesome. |
| 12:34.12 | rob_w-cgi | koen : hehehe |
| 12:35.36 | florian_kc | cool |
| 12:48.57 | koen | s/is/if/ |
| 12:49.27 | koen | grrr, it doesn't |
| 12:50.10 | florian_kc | uh! i see tuxes... on a sgi 540 |
| 12:53.15 | ade|desk | florian_kc: ooooo nice, what config 540 ? |
| 13:03.55 | pb_ | florian_kc: heh, very good |
| 13:25.23 | florian_kc | ade|desk: almost full... 4x550MHz Xeon, 2gb ram |
| 13:25.53 | florian_kc | we have a customer here wo owns that machine and wants to run linux on it :-) |
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| 13:48.26 | florian_kc | ade|desk: indeed.... i'd like to have one, but they are rare and if one shows up on ebay they get really expensive. |
| 14:00.35 | rob_w-cgi | huuraay ,, xtops.de sends me a borrow of a CF GSM card .. that will push my development |
| 14:01.07 | koen | rob_w-cgi: cool |
| 14:04.12 | florian_kc | rob_w-cgi: Werner? |
| 14:04.16 | rob_w-cgi | yup |
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| 15:17.11 | koen | florian_kc: did you manage to solve the site problems with sapwood? |
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| 15:34.35 | florian_kc | koen: i'm just workin on it... |
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| 15:43.20 | JiniDog | I made sure to have cairo-0.4 but I still get this: |
| 15:43.21 | JiniDog | configure:2445: checking for C compiler default output file name |
| 15:43.21 | JiniDog | configure:2448: armv5tel-pc-linux-uclibc-gcc -Os -march=armv5te -mtune=xscale -fomit-frame-pointer -Wl,-O1 -lgpewidget conftest.c >&5 |
| 15:43.21 | JiniDog | /usr/lib/gcc/armv5tel-pc-linux-uclibc/3.4.3/../../../libgpewidget.so: undefined reference to `cairo_set_source_rgba' |
| 15:43.21 | JiniDog | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 15:43.33 | JiniDog | btw, florian_kc , your changes are working for me |
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| 15:45.00 | pb_ | you need to get a consistent set of libraries, either all built with the new cairo, or all built with the old cairo. you can't mix and match. |
| 15:46.33 | JiniDog | I should get glitz working? |
| 15:48.55 | JiniDog | I really have just 0.4 installed |
| 15:51.30 | pb_ | right, but your /usr/lib/gcc/armv5tel-pc-linux-uclibc/3.4.3/../../../libgpewidget.so was apparently built against 0.5. |
| 15:53.05 | JiniDog | no, I recompiled |
| 15:53.31 | pb_ | using what sources |
| 15:53.32 | pb_ | ? |
| 15:53.42 | JiniDog | 0.4 |
| 15:54.13 | JiniDog | and libgpewidget-0.100 with the latest updates for nls-less systems |
| 15:54.26 | JiniDog | perhaps it has something to do with the missing nls |
| 15:54.39 | pb_ | I think libgpewidget 0.100 expects cairo 0.5. |
| 15:54.50 | pb_ | iirc, gpeclockface was updated somewhere around libgpewidget 0.97. |
| 15:55.22 | pb_ | if you want to use 0.4, you'll have to back down to a slightly older libgpewidget. |
| 15:57.23 | JiniDog | but I installed 0.5 recently and it didn't compile |
| 15:58.36 | pb_ | ah. maybe it hasn't been completely updated to work with 0.5 yet. |
| 15:58.43 | pb_ | I'm pretty sure that 0.100 will not work with 0.4, though. |
| 15:59.22 | JiniDog | btw, do I need cairo support? |
| 16:00.18 | JiniDog | what do I loose when I deactivate it? |
| 16:04.42 | pb_ | no, you can safely turn it off. |
| 16:04.54 | pb_ | I don't remember exactly what you lose. you'd have to grep for CAIRO in the sources. |
| 16:05.12 | pb_ | you wouldn't lose any functionality, though, it just won't look quite as pretty. |
| 16:09.55 | koen | pb_: only the fancy clock |
| 16:10.25 | pb_ | ah, right |
| 16:10.43 | pb_ | and gpe-appmgr won't work at all without cairo, I guess, but you probably don't care about that. |
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| 16:48.53 | reenoo | evening |
| 16:49.04 | koen | hey reenoo |
| 16:49.57 | reenoo | hey koen |
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| 16:55.39 | florian_kc | hi reenoo |
| 16:58.16 | Philippe | hello people |
| 16:58.23 | koen | hey Philippe |
| 17:00.07 | florian_kc | hello Philippe |
| 17:00.30 | mickeyl | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.1829.png |
| 17:00.49 | mickeyl | some scripts still seem to provide -oknodo which busybox doesn't understand |
| 17:00.55 | Philippe | pff, I managed to make a new image yesterday, with help support! Unfortunately the helpviewer does not build because of gal failing... and I have no place to make the image available... |
| 17:01.17 | mickeyl | koen: i downloaded a snap and apm -s seems to be broken. instead of going to sleep it just logs me out |
| 17:01.43 | mickeyl | (h3600, ipaq 3650 here) |
| 17:01.52 | koen | crap |
| 17:02.11 | koen | you did do that as root, right? |
| 17:02.18 | mickeyl | ya |
| 17:02.38 | koen | ok |
| 17:02.44 | koen | can you bugzilla that? |
| 17:02.50 | koen | there should be a 0.8.3 master bug |
| 17:03.03 | mickeyl | will do |
| 17:03.11 | koen | in hh.org bugzilla that is |
| 17:03.19 | koen | (confusing, I know) |
| 17:03.33 | mickeyl | heh, np |
| 17:03.52 | mickeyl | things will get better once we merged |
| 17:03.56 | mickeyl | bug tracking especially |
| 17:04.00 | florian_kc | is there a working driver for the ratoc usb cf card? |
| 17:04.18 | koen | florian_kc: yes, for 2.4 it's in hh.org cvs |
| 17:04.26 | koen | the 2.6 version is in OE |
| 17:05.02 | pb_ | florian_kc: yah, the ratoc card is compatible with the interpocket one. |
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| 17:07.19 | koen | pb_: are there any pressing reasons to keep keylaunch? |
| 17:07.41 | pb_ | it's required to support the power button and keylock functionality. |
| 17:08.08 | koen | you mean the hold functionality fo rthe powerbutton |
| 17:08.19 | pb_ | correct. |
| 17:08.24 | koen | ok |
| 17:08.33 | koen | in that case we're thinking the same :) |
| 17:10.21 | pb_ | later all |
| 17:25.04 | Philippe | later (until after the debian release party in Leuven (Belgium)) |
| 17:25.38 | mickeyl | drink a Leffe Brune for me |
| 17:25.40 | mickeyl | :D |
| 17:25.47 | florian_kc | Philippe: enjoy |
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| 17:52.23 | flo_540 | hehe |
| 17:52.55 | koen | (just being jealous) |
| 17:53.02 | flo_540 | that reminds me to take some healthcare stuff for my ill o2 with me# |
| 17:53.37 | koen | some disks and ram? |
| 17:53.48 | koen | does your o2 have the av board? |
| 17:56.11 | flo_540 | no... a cpu and irix |
| 17:56.27 | flo_540 | yep... but only a r5000 |
| 17:58.43 | koen | "GNOME News Needs You! If you have an RSS feed of announcements and news about your GNOME-related project, let Jeff know, so he can put it on the newly revitalised GNOME News page. It helps if you have a cool icon for your project, too." |
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| 18:03.50 | florian_kc | pb_: wb |
| 18:06.24 | florian_kc | uh? |
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| 18:20.02 | florian_kc | brb |
| 18:23.21 | koen | ibot: botmail for florian: http://www.volkswagen.de/vwcms_publish/vwcms/master_public/brand_portal/de30/models/fox.html |
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| 18:23.32 | mimecar | hi, good evening |
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| 18:26.17 | koen | hey mimecar |
| 18:34.26 | mimecar | hi koen |
| 18:34.34 | mimecar | i didn't see you |
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| 18:34.55 | mimecar | koen, do you know if gpe can run on pc ? |
| 18:35.26 | koen | it ran on my powerbook |
| 18:35.40 | koen | and I know florian runs it on his workstation |
| 18:36.12 | mimecar | with some emulator ? |
| 18:36.24 | koen | no |
| 18:36.35 | koen | just compile it on your PC |
| 18:36.44 | koen | or apt-get install it if you have debian |
| 18:36.50 | koen | ~hail moray |
| 18:36.51 | ibot | ACTION bows down to moray and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 18:36.54 | mimecar | I have suse currently |
| 18:37.48 | mimecar | but I will change to debian if I can run gpe on my laptop |
| 18:38.40 | koen|tv | it should run on suse too |
| 18:38.47 | mimecar | interesting |
| 18:38.50 | koen|tv | you'll just need to compile it |
| 18:39.08 | mimecar | I think is faster develop with "pc version" |
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| 18:57.57 | koen|tv | Donwulff: nice work on the mmc |
| 18:58.41 | Donwulff | Now if it only worked... |
| 18:58.44 | Donwulff | Heh :) |
| 18:59.49 | Donwulff | Hard to debug since it seems to work when I have debug output on, just need to toggle it on selectively I guess. Some sort of timing problem; although it's hard to see where the patch goes wrong. Any ideas? |
| 19:00.05 | koen|tv | no idea, sorry |
| 19:00.19 | koen|tv | c code is like finnish to me |
| 19:00.41 | Donwulff | Actually, I should limit the timeout retry only to read cases, at least that's what the datasheet suggests.. I doubt that will affect it though. |
| 19:01.20 | Donwulff | Just annoying that the WLAN interface fails to come up most of the time when I reboot the device; any idea on that? |
| 19:02.22 | Donwulff | *usually* doing manually "ifup wlan0" works, but it's real annoyance having to type in password and that after almost every reboot. |
| 19:03.41 | koen|tv | it has something todo with the device needing 3 seconds to associate and udhcpc only waiting 3 secs too |
| 19:05.10 | Donwulff | I was going to mention that sometimes ifup wlan0 fails as well, dhcp doesn't get response - not sure why, but usually only taking battery out for a few minutes helps. |
| 19:05.41 | koen|tv | the battery tricks fixes 99% of h5xxx problems |
| 19:05.46 | Donwulff | And ofcourse, after taking the battery otu the device will fail to reboot once or twice, have let it sit for hours but it just gets stuck, need to reset it again :) |
| 19:06.08 | koen|tv | first boot get's stuck on modprbong h5400_asic |
| 19:06.16 | koen|tv | modprobing even |
| 19:07.15 | Donwulff | All in all makes for REALLY slow hacking on h5550. Any idea on fixes for those issues? |
| 19:07.28 | Donwulff | I think I should've started with the reboot problems to make things faster :)= |
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| 19:34.34 | Donwulff | Any idea where I can find specs for MMC cards, programmign specs that is? |
| 19:34.49 | koen|tv | no idea, sorry |
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| 21:17.56 | florian_ | re |
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