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| 09:42.47 | koen | good morning all |
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| 09:51.16 | dc_ | morning |
| 09:51.20 | dc_ | morning koen |
| 09:51.23 | koen | hey dc_ |
| 09:51.46 | dc_ | I got my 120gb seagate hdd yesterday :) |
| 09:51.57 | dc_ | now I can actually record a normal amount of programs |
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| 09:52.22 | koen | moin zecke_ |
| 09:52.31 | koen | dc_: and have even less spare time :) |
| 09:52.38 | dc_ | yep! |
| 09:53.06 | koen | dc_: do you know when SG atlantis season2 will hit the net? |
| 09:53.32 | dc_ | not sure. I'd love to know though |
| 09:53.34 | dc_ | has it aired yet? |
| 09:54.17 | koen | not that I know off |
| 09:54.27 | dc_ | ah god though. I miss sg-1. that geeky guy in atlantis can really get on my nerves |
| 09:54.38 | koen | rodney? |
| 09:54.43 | dc_ | yah |
| 09:54.51 | koen | he was in sg1 too :) |
| 09:55.03 | dc_ | yeah I noticed. episode 8x19? |
| 09:55.24 | dc_ | oh right. was he in earlier episodes as well? |
| 09:55.50 | koen | yes |
| 09:56.11 | koen | I should finish watching season 8 of SG1 |
| 09:56.46 | dc_ | yeah the last two episodes are pretty cool |
| 09:57.20 | dc_ | except carter looks silly when she's acting out her alterative self. |
| 10:04.49 | koen | dc_: what's that link for the osx mythtv again? |
| 10:06.14 | koen | ah, found it |
| 10:06.33 | dc_ | :) |
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| 10:11.17 | bedboi | hi there |
| 10:11.33 | koen | hey bedboi |
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| 10:13.07 | bedboi | hi there. |
| 10:13.29 | niklash | Is gpe-nmf supposed to be working in 0.8.1? |
| 10:13.47 | niklash | If so, what gstreamer packages do I need? |
| 10:14.05 | niklash | I get "Element creation failed". |
| 10:14.20 | niklash | hi bedboi. |
| 10:15.59 | pigeon | hi all |
| 10:19.23 | dc_ | hye pigeon! |
| 10:20.04 | pigeon | dc_ kun! |
| 10:20.45 | dc_ | :) |
| 10:22.11 | pigeon | how's it going? |
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| 10:47.48 | dc_ | pigeon: good! |
| 10:47.56 | pigeon | dc_: ! |
| 10:48.08 | dc_ | I got a new 120gb drive yesterday |
| 10:48.15 | dc_ | so I can mythtv it to the max now |
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| 11:27.18 | pigeon | dc_: ahahaha |
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| 11:29.55 | pigeon | i still feel "exciting" when i find no timezone in the list in gpe that is correct for my location... :\ |
| 11:41.50 | dc_ | pigeon: still living on the moon? |
| 11:42.11 | pigeon | yeah :( |
| 11:43.33 | pigeon | 1 root 520 S ini |
| 11:43.46 | pigeon | that's odd |
| 11:50.15 | pigeon | and i have a feeling sound is broken here |
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| 11:56.16 | pigeon | hmm and it doesn't seem to be auto mounting my cf card properly. |
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| 12:01.07 | reenoo | morning |
| 12:07.57 | mallum | hey pigeon |
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| 12:15.14 | pigeon | hey mallum! |
| 12:21.05 | mallum | hey, hows it going ? |
| 12:22.28 | pigeon | just came back from hk + tw last week. |
| 12:22.44 | pigeon | now just flashed my 3870 with familiar 0.8.1 |
| 12:23.21 | pigeon | maybe i'll then switch to unstable feed. |
| 12:27.24 | pigeon | ipkg seems to be a lot better now, but also a lot slower. |
| 12:32.42 | reenoo | there are also a lot more packages in the feeds... |
| 12:37.19 | pigeon | one thing i don't under stand is why it running gpe-appmgr for me even I have a ~/.matchbox/session file |
| 12:38.12 | pigeon | s/running/runs/ |
| 12:40.48 | mallum | pigeon: who knows :/ |
| 12:41.07 | mallum | pigeon: I thought gpe-appmgr only got installed on 640x480 machines |
| 12:46.45 | pigeon | mallum: hmm well this is 0.8.1 flash |
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| 12:47.28 | florian | good morning |
| 12:47.57 | reenoo | morning florian |
| 12:48.11 | pigeon | morning reenoo florian |
| 12:48.19 | pigeon | well, i removed gpe-appmgr |
| 12:49.31 | pigeon | and it's kind of annoying seeing only half of the clock on the panel |
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| 12:55.42 | pigeon | funny, by default I think the theme is Angelistic in the look and feel settings, but after changing it, the Angelistic disappears from the list and can never be selected again. |
| 13:06.00 | arturaz | hehge |
| 13:06.01 | florian | pigeon: the clock issue is a panel bug iirc, change its settings to make it work properly. |
| 13:07.06 | florian | pigeon: ah right, because it is a gtk theme only and gpe-conf only offers matchbox themes. |
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| 13:49.20 | koen | heh |
| 13:49.38 | koen | why does GPE wants to run 'bl' and 'ipaq-sleep' on a *zaurus* ? |
| 13:58.06 | mallum | koen: urg |
| 14:02.16 | florian | koen: ipaq-sleep is a little bit misnamed... bl is a good idea, but it does not know to turn backlight off on a zaurus. |
| 14:03.34 | koen | with the nice unified backlight class of course |
| 14:04.16 | florian | koen: right - it would be really easy to replace bl using this. |
| 14:05.03 | koen | I still need to finish 2.6 support for minilite |
| 14:05.39 | koen | It's a matter of reading max_bightness and scaling the slider to that value |
| 14:10.59 | koen | florian: the point is that both (bl & ipaq-sleep) are missing |
| 14:11.07 | koen | from a Z image |
| 14:12.06 | florian | koen: that would be cool... is there a special switch to turn light off (without turning the display off and setting brighthness to 0)? |
| 14:12.27 | florian | koen: that's bad - ipaq-sleep should be there and work properly. |
| 14:12.47 | koen | the display should only go off when 'power' is 4 |
| 14:13.08 | koen | fiddling with the brightness shouldn't interfere with the lcd |
| 14:22.49 | koen | they non-working powerbutton on ipaqs is a showstopper :( |
| 14:28.29 | florian | right... is there anyone working on this? |
| 14:35.06 | koen | I gave up when remote X broke |
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| 14:36.20 | koen | It's kind of hard to check keys when you can't use xev |
| 14:37.47 | florian | hmm right... that's nasty. |
| 14:37.50 | florian | Philippe: wb |
| 14:38.38 | koen | too bad the X people don't have a "code in CVS must always work" attitude |
| 14:39.10 | florian | mallum: do you have write access to X cvs? you could add this definition (or something like this with a different name)? |
| 14:39.31 | florian | koen: what they need is a release... |
| 14:39.59 | koen | florian: which is hard when cvs is broken in many ways |
| 14:41.51 | florian | koen: right... |
| 14:42.07 | koen | XFNOT86PowerDown instead of XF86PowerDown |
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| 14:43.18 | florian | heh... maybe simply XPowerDown :-) |
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| 14:59.31 | Nosklo_ | how does one play mp3/ogg on gpe? What package are you using? |
| 14:59.47 | Nosklo_ | s/what/which |
| 15:00.02 | koen | gpe-nmf mplayer or vlc-gpe |
| 15:00.42 | Nosklo_ | hmm vlc-gpe not on default feed? |
| 15:00.56 | Nosklo_ | will try gpe-nmf tho |
| 15:02.28 | Nosklo_ | just one more question, how do i translate gpe into my language? information on GPENewbie on wiki doesnt work, ipkgFind doesnt know about any virtual-locale-* packages.. |
| 15:07.52 | Nosklo_ | is this translation feature broken now? |
| 15:17.53 | florian | ah, i think it is locale-base now |
| 15:22.13 | reenoo | actually locale-base-* appear to provide virtual-locale-* |
| 15:22.56 | florian | right... that's why you can't install these virtual packages. |
| 15:25.56 | reenoo | oh. ipkg doesn't pick a provider? |
| 15:26.19 | florian | i don't think so.. |
| 15:26.37 | Nosklo_ | i think the GPENewbie should be edited then...may I? |
| 15:26.46 | koen | sure |
| 15:26.49 | koen | it's a wiki after all |
| 15:27.06 | Nosklo_ | well.. gpe-nmf crashes on play button |
| 15:29.11 | Nosklo_ | it says "No default scheduler name - do you have a registry? |
| 15:29.41 | Nosklo_ | how do i create such a registry? |
| 15:30.35 | koen | run gst-register |
| 15:33.01 | florian | hrm... isn't gstreamer postinst supposed to do this? |
| 15:34.54 | Nosklo_ | i guess so |
| 15:35.25 | Nosklo_ | should i add this to my "bug-reports-to-file" list? |
| 15:35.35 | florian | yes |
| 15:36.15 | Nosklo_ | hmm... gst-register created the register. but no sound output. console message: Element creation failed |
| 15:36.33 | Nosklo_ | then lots of gst_element_query errors |
| 15:36.45 | koen | would it be an idea to move gpe to berlios or something, since hh.org doesnn't have a real admin? |
| 15:37.11 | reenoo | berlios is down more often than hh.org |
| 15:37.15 | reenoo | heh |
| 15:37.16 | florian | koen: to be honest... i thought about this too. |
| 15:37.21 | florian | reenoo: oh |
| 15:37.53 | reenoo | but yeah, maybe not a bad idea as such |
| 15:37.57 | koen | fdo or gnome? |
| 15:38.30 | reenoo | gnome provides the best infrastructure I'd say |
| 15:38.35 | Nosklo_ | i touched the volume and the "Segmentation fault" shows up. |
| 15:38.39 | florian | I sent a couple of mails about various issues to hh.org admin but never received an answer. |
| 15:39.05 | florian | our gallery... cvs logs... and so on. |
| 15:39.31 | reenoo | Nosklo_: sounds like you're running an old version of gpe-nmf which doesn't have the right deps etc. |
| 15:40.27 | reenoo | Nosklo_: which version have you installed and from which feed? |
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| 15:41.55 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: i have installed gpe-nmf_0.19-r2_arm.ipk from the http://familiar.handhelds.org/releases/v0.8.1/feed/x11 feed |
| 15:41.59 | Cwiiis | Can anyone think of any common thing that would stop the touchscreen working in X? I've checked the device and environment variables and they all seem to be right - cat'd the device and the touchscreen is working |
| 15:42.29 | florian | Cwiiis: the touchscreen interface in X :-/ |
| 15:42.46 | Cwiiis | florian: Has something changed? :/ |
| 15:42.50 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: should i use 0.8.0? which feed are you using? |
| 15:43.11 | florian | Cwiiis: i heared some rumors... |
| 15:43.53 | Cwiiis | great... |
| 15:44.52 | reenoo | Nosklo_: that package probably doesn't have the right dependencies yet. and I'm not using any official feed |
| 15:47.02 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: hmm, so where should i get packages that have right dependencies? i have installed gpe from scratch and got 2 nights up to upgrade it using this feed dealing with 'out of space' problems and such. |
| 15:47.10 | florian | koen: hrm... i see |
| 15:47.51 | koen | I think 80% off all scripts broke on hh.org after the reinstall |
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| 15:49.35 | koen | heh |
| 15:49.36 | florian | Looks like they don't have any resources at all... |
| 15:49.48 | koen | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.06 | florian | *g* |
| 15:50.54 | koen | ok |
| 15:51.07 | koen | the unstable feed should contain gpe-nmf, vlc-gpe and mplayer now |
| 15:51.28 | reenoo | koen: ah. excellent |
| 15:51.58 | Nosklo_ | cool, is the unstable feed http://handhelds.org/distributions/familiar/feeds/unstable/packages/ ? |
| 15:52.09 | koen | almost |
| 15:52.23 | koen | handhelds.org/feeds/unstable is shorter :) |
| 15:52.43 | koen | It's generating the package list now |
| 15:52.47 | Nosklo_ | koen: ;) ok |
| 15:53.11 | koen | (in python of course, so it's taking ages) |
| 15:53.42 | Nosklo_ | i had a problem that i solved with a LOT of work.. after installing gpe image, i got no space left (i have a h3670) so if i 'ipkg update'd my list i would run out of space |
| 15:54.17 | reenoo | ah, right |
| 15:54.17 | Nosklo_ | so to upgrade everything i had to link the list to cf and upgrade the packages one by one so i wouldnt get an "out of space" message |
| 15:54.44 | reenoo | koen: I think we should move the ipkg list stuff to /tmp |
| 15:54.55 | koen | indeed |
| 15:55.04 | koen | there is no compelling reason to keep it in flash |
| 15:56.00 | Nosklo_ | now i have to install everything on cf and ipkg-link it to try out. almost no space left on root fs |
| 15:56.52 | Nosklo_ | upgrades on packages must be done one by one. if i try to upgrade everything at once the ipaq becomes unusable |
| 15:56.58 | Nosklo_ | and i need to reflash it |
| 15:58.09 | Nosklo_ | so i am working on a small script to fetch all packages that need upgrading and call ipkg install on them one by one |
| 15:58.52 | Nosklo_ | do you think this is the right approach? |
| 15:59.46 | koen | that could come in handy |
| 15:59.47 | Cwiiis | The right approach is to patch ipkg :) |
| 16:02.29 | Nosklo_ | another problem i ran into was the cf being vfat, since i dont have a cf reader on my desktop, i had to deal with it. i had no space to install mkfs.ext2 so i used loopback to mount an ext2 filesystem. |
| 16:03.16 | Nosklo_ | then i had to patch ipkg-link to deal with packages installed on /mnt/loop (which is where i mounted the loopback fs) |
| 16:05.09 | koen | florian: do you have some time to release the new gpe-conf this weekend? |
| 16:07.10 | Nosklo_ | since i was already messing with ipkg-link i made a few changes to save the list of linked packages outside the cf, so i can ipkg-link remove and ipkg-link umount stuff even if the cf card is removed |
| 16:07.37 | Nosklo_ | i ask again your opnion of this mess :) |
| 16:08.01 | florian | koen: it think so... |
| 16:17.02 | koen | nice |
| 16:19.12 | Nosklo_ | as you can see, a lot of work to put gpe upgraded and running on a h3600 with 16MB rom :-P at least to me |
| 16:20.21 | koen | indeed |
| 16:20.30 | koen | we are trying to inprove that |
| 16:20.33 | koen | improve* |
| 16:24.24 | Nosklo_ | i want to help as much as i can |
| 16:24.32 | Nosklo_ | i am documenting everything i try |
| 16:25.23 | Nosklo_ | and will send it to... mailing list? |
| 16:27.00 | florian | yes that would be the best |
| 16:27.12 | Nosklo_ | should I *replace* the feeds i have with the unstable feed, or should i *add* it to a new file on /etc/ipkg? |
| 16:29.46 | reenoo | koen: have you heard back from Kero btw? |
| 16:29.56 | reenoo | Nosklo_: just add the unstable feed |
| 16:30.30 | reenoo | Nosklo_: and maybe disable it again once you've got what you want |
| 16:31.06 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: thanks for telling me that, i was almost upgrading everything :) |
| 16:32.23 | reenoo | Nosklo_: yeah, I'm not sure if an "ipkg upgrade" from the unstable feed is a good idea. personally, I'd just pull stuff selectively from there |
| 16:33.11 | reenoo | hmm |
| 16:33.17 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: it would be a nice test for my ipkg-step-upgrade script :) |
| 16:35.05 | reenoo | writing this with just sqlite is a pain |
| 16:37.52 | florian | reenoo: what are you doing? |
| 16:38.38 | koen | reenoo: I haven't heard back from Kero |
| 16:39.51 | reenoo | florian: I'm adding preferences infrastructure code to an app I'm writing atm |
| 16:40.37 | reenoo | koen: hmm. too bad. would've been nice to have another maintainer back on board :/ |
| 16:41.51 | koen | indeed |
| 16:44.18 | florian | reenoo: use g_keyfile |
| 16:46.36 | koen | a some progress at least |
| 16:46.49 | koen | X doesn't crash after a 'xhost +' |
| 16:46.56 | koen | still no working remote X |
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| 16:48.20 | jsmanrique | hi |
| 16:49.06 | florian | hi jserv0 |
| 16:49.31 | jsmanrique | how goes everything? |
| 16:49.36 | Nosklo_ | du -hcs /usr/lib/ipkg/lists returns 8.1MB now |
| 16:49.43 | Nosklo_ | half my rom :) |
| 16:49.54 | Nosklo_ | jsmanrique: hi! |
| 16:50.24 | jsmanrique | any news? |
| 16:51.33 | koen | Nosklo_: lists can be safely removed |
| 16:51.42 | Nosklo_ | jsmanrique: you now have a newbie spamming the channel |
| 16:52.01 | florian | heh... for this keeping the lists in ram is a good idea... |
| 16:52.09 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 16:52.13 | Nosklo_ | they are in ram now |
| 16:52.15 | koen | hey jsmanrique |
| 16:53.19 | reenoo | florian: good idea, thanks. but what I'm missing are utility functions like gconf_string_to_enum actually |
| 16:53.58 | jsmanrique | hi koen, reenoo, florian.... |
| 16:54.03 | jsmanrique | and all |
| 16:55.10 | florian | reenoo: right... the code for this wastes some space here too, but basically it is really really useful. |
| 16:55.42 | Nosklo_ | jsmanrique: let me introduce myself. i am a newbie that just got an ipaq h3670 and installed gpe. i am trying to learn everything and report my failures to help improve the stuff. thats why i am spamming the channel :-P :) |
| 16:56.05 | jsmanrique | nosklo_: cool |
| 16:56.37 | jsmanrique | I am testing Opie in my h3870 now (opie-irc) |
| 16:57.02 | jsmanrique | fonts look better in GPE |
| 16:57.04 | Nosklo_ | jsmanrique: i have installed opie.. i did not like it |
| 16:57.16 | jsmanrique | :D |
| 16:57.41 | jsmanrique | I have GPE in my h5450 |
| 16:57.52 | florian | hmm... waht do i need to add to a bash script to make it print out all commands it runs to cpnsole? |
| 16:58.11 | koen | I'll be making an opie-based distro for work the next few months |
| 16:58.20 | jsmanrique | but wifi doesn't go as expected |
| 16:58.34 | koen | florian: in DOS you could do "echo on" :) |
| 16:59.31 | jsmanrique | koen: for work? |
| 16:59.50 | Nosklo_ | i wish i had those new ipaqs. the small rom is painful |
| 17:00.23 | koen | jsmanrique: yes, I was hired to neatly package all the stuff the university wrote |
| 17:01.02 | jsmanrique | koen: the university? in opie? |
| 17:01.05 | koen | they were using repackaged OZ apps and more stuff that just has to break at some point |
| 17:01.16 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 17:01.33 | koen | the middleware is java, but the gui's are all QT |
| 17:01.50 | jsmanrique | arg, java.. |
| 17:02.11 | Nosklo_ | koen: reenoo: to install gpe-nmf i must upgrade gtk+ and libx11-6 on root. is this a good idea? |
| 17:02.39 | koen | as long as those apps aren't running, it should be safe |
| 17:03.09 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 17:03.39 | Nosklo_ | hmm what about libgcc1? |
| 17:03.45 | florian | :-) |
| 17:03.48 | jsmanrique | I hope there would be a h4700 like linux pda soon |
| 17:04.21 | florian | koen: uh.... many bad words in one sentence. |
| 17:04.39 | jsmanrique | available in Spain |
| 17:05.27 | jsmanrique | :) |
| 17:05.41 | koen | a zaurus clamshell *with* wifi and bluetooth.... |
| 17:05.48 | mallum | hey jsmanrique |
| 17:06.04 | jsmanrique | hey mallum |
| 17:06.35 | florian | koen: heh... i just tried to convince someone to port linux to the Communicators ;-) |
| 17:06.43 | jsmanrique | keyboards are bad idea |
| 17:07.04 | koen | jsmanrique: have you used a clamshell? |
| 17:07.10 | jsmanrique | with Japanese symbols |
| 17:07.41 | koen | only ctrl and alt have japanese symbols |
| 17:07.52 | koen | the rest uses normal latin characters |
| 17:08.16 | jsmanrique | koen: I'd love to do it.. but it isn't a Spanish keyboard :D |
| 17:08.43 | jsmanrique | koen: and it isn't available in Spain |
| 17:09.11 | jsmanrique | cl850 or cl1000 look great |
| 17:09.11 | florian | jsmanrique: yes i think so... or lets say i hope - ask me again in two months. |
| 17:09.48 | jsmanrique | florian: why? tell me more, tell me more... |
| 17:09.58 | jsmanrique | XD |
| 17:10.52 | jsmanrique | are you buying a cl1000? |
| 17:12.09 | florian | jsmanrique: i don't know more, i just hope currently. i still think there are companies out there working with linux on mobile devices... as we did at kc. in fact we tried to find out what the price for a oem pda in lower quantities might be... |
| 17:12.48 | jsmanrique | florian: contacted Hydrix? |
| 17:12.56 | florian | jsmanrique: it is not that much... but selling consumer hardware is a nasty business and thinking about gpe we still have some work to do. |
| 17:13.21 | jsmanrique | yes, true |
| 17:13.37 | jsmanrique | any oem interested? |
| 17:13.43 | florian | jsmanrique: hmm... i don't think so, i don't remember the name of that company, need to check that tuesday. |
| 17:13.45 | jsmanrique | any choice? |
| 17:14.34 | jsmanrique | IA? |
| 17:14.34 | florian | jsmanrique: yes... it's cheaper than expected, but you still need a lot of money. |
| 17:14.44 | jsmanrique | XD |
| 17:16.00 | florian | but in fact there is more and more powerful and cheap hardware around. |
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| 17:16.57 | koen | "I've been using Opie for a couple of days now, and it seems buggy... I can live with bugs in exchange for coolness, but I absolutely do need networking -- and thats the most buggy part of all." |
| 17:17.02 | koen | nice quote |
| 17:17.40 | Nosklo_ | hmmm.. the post-inst from all the gst-plugin-* packages tried to use gst-register before gstreamer got configured |
| 17:18.03 | florian | heh... |
| 17:18.17 | reenoo | florian: hmm.. how do you save a GKeyFile? |
| 17:18.18 | florian | well... we have some other lacks. |
| 17:19.29 | florian | reenoo: heh... make it a string and save this one. i think they forgot this single method :-) |
| 17:19.53 | Nosklo_ | i had strange behavior using opie .. whenever my pda made an read/write access to the cf, the opie would throw a space caracter on whichever application i was running |
| 17:20.06 | reenoo | florian: right. just trying to make sure I'm not missing something :) |
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| 17:20.56 | jsmanrique | hi again |
| 17:21.09 | jsmanrique | sorry, battery drains too fast using wifi in an ipaq :-D |
| 17:21.21 | jsmanrique | florian: any manufacturer name? |
| 17:22.10 | mallum | jsmanrique: are hydrix still doing anything ? |
| 17:22.30 | jsmanrique | mallum: collecting money |
| 17:22.47 | jsmanrique | mallum: they need $1M for first 5000 Qonos units |
| 17:22.57 | florian | Nosklo_: uh! |
| 17:23.19 | Nosklo_ | florian: and it didnt happen on gpe |
| 17:23.26 | reenoo | Nosklo_: that sounds like a bug in ipkg or something. all gst plugins depend on gstreamer. |
| 17:23.30 | koen | ~hail gpe |
| 17:23.33 | ibot | ACTION bows down to gpe and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 17:23.36 | jsmanrique | mallum: so, as florian has said, "you need a lot of money" |
| 17:24.14 | jsmanrique | mallum: any matchbox based project? how goes openhand enterprise? |
| 17:24.15 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: i found out what happened. since i am not installing to root (i dont have the space!) the gst-register never got installed, so postinst cant find it |
| 17:24.18 | florian | right |
| 17:24.23 | Nosklo_ | reenoo: we need to integrate ipkg-link into ipkg |
| 17:24.27 | florian | jsmanrique: not offhand... |
| 17:24.48 | florian | or use unionfs |
| 17:24.48 | reenoo | Nosklo_: ah, ok. that would explain it |
| 17:25.42 | jsmanrique | mallum: o-hand? |
| 17:25.43 | reenoo | koen: nothing spectacular. just a little... app :) |
| 17:26.17 | jsmanrique | mallum: how goes everything? |
| 17:26.57 | jsmanrique | linux for NintendoDS ? :-) |
| 17:29.31 | Nosklo_ | okay. got gpe-nfm to work. 2.5mb of plugins and apps to get it to play. |
| 17:30.58 | mallum | jsmanrique: yeah going well |
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| 17:33.20 | mallum | jsmanrique: $M seems a lot of money for 5000 units |
| 17:46.24 | Cwiiis | mallum: I don't have wifi handy here at the moment - what information does the wireless applet show/not show at the moment? |
| 17:47.06 | Nosklo_ | almost no games found for gpe. most games i could find need libqt to work. am i missing anything? |
| 17:47.11 | mallum | Cwiiis: the quality on the msg bubble |
| 17:47.34 | mallum | Cwiiis: the Mwd struct needs refactoring , if kind of left over from the old way |
| 17:48.02 | Cwiiis | Right, ok... I need to get wireless going on my laptop to do this properly methinks... |
| 17:48.15 | mallum | Cwiiis: A wireless connection would be handy as libiw is wierd and poorly documented |
| 17:48.28 | Cwiiis | mm, I'm just using the .h file at the moment :p hehe |
| 17:48.32 | mallum | Cwiiis: it takes a bit of experimentation to figure it out |
| 17:48.43 | mallum | Cwiiis: yeah thats all there is :/ |
| 17:54.36 | Cwiiis | Nosklo_: Games needing libqt are for opie - gpe games are gpe-tetris, gpe-othello (which accepts illegal moves :p), gpe-go, gpe-lights, gsoko and xdemineur - Then any SDL games (not sure how many there are and which work on small screens) |
| 17:56.13 | Cwiiis | hah, hurray for insecure wireless networks :) |
| 17:56.17 | Nosklo_ | Cwiiis: glines seems like a good candidate to porting to gpe |
| 17:57.14 | Cwiiis | Nosklo_: Pretty much all the gnome games could be ported to gpe with little effort - it's low priority on my todo list, but I doubt I'll get round to it anytime soon... |
| 17:57.35 | Cwiiis | Just a case of taking out all the gnome deps (generally just the high scores stuff) |
| 17:58.24 | Cwiiis | heh, this wireless network near me is twice as fast as my connection at home :) |
| 18:06.36 | Cwiiis | damnit, need to have a working gpe-image first... |
| 18:08.13 | Nosklo_ | Cwiiis: as soon as i get to know how to make a building environment for gpe working, i will try to port these |
| 18:08.25 | Cwiiis | Nosklo_: Cool :) |
| 18:08.36 | Nosklo_ | Cwiiis: trying to put gpe usable first |
| 18:08.45 | Nosklo_ | Cwiiis: on my 3670 |
| 18:09.45 | Cwiiis | Nosklo_: Using OE? |
| 18:10.10 | Nosklo_ | Nosklo_: not yet. got an ipaq few days ago. just installed the gpe image for now |
| 18:10.21 | Cwiiis | ah |
| 18:11.02 | Cwiiis | OE's pretty handy for developing apps for pdas, unsurprisingly :) |
| 18:11.03 | Nosklo_ | Cwiiis: should i use OE? |
| 18:11.29 | Cwiiis | Nosklo_: I'd recommend it |
| 18:11.29 | Nosklo_ | Cwiiis: cool, will try it out soon |
| 18:23.52 | koen | why is the background image option removed from gpe-login? |
| 18:40.06 | Cwiiis | koen: You know what sol is? Some kinda of gtk solitaire game, or a gnome one? |
| 18:42.41 | Cwiiis | http://shh.thathost.com/pub-unix/html/sol.html - ah, that I take it... I'm guessing not good on small screens... |
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| 18:52.11 | pb_ | hi all |
| 18:52.21 | koen | hey pb_ |
| 18:53.29 | pb_ | florian: it seems the treke.net snapshots are still out of order. I can't update the cvs tree until they are working again. |
| 18:56.33 | reenoo | evening pb_ |
| 19:03.46 | florian | pb_: hey |
| 19:03.57 | florian | pb_: not that urgent :-) |
| 19:04.20 | pb_ | florian: okay :-) |
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| 20:13.38 | luc | hi |
| 20:13.51 | koen | hey luc |
| 20:14.14 | luc | hi koen |
| 20:16.06 | luc | koen: what are the r0 in package names in unstable feed? |
| 20:16.41 | koen | the revision of the .bb |
| 20:17.23 | luc | hmm are they updated automatically from OE? |
| 20:17.38 | koen | not really |
| 20:18.21 | koen | everytime we update the .bb (new patches, packaging differences) we bump up the PR |
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| 23:23.52 | pigeon | oh ah |
| 23:37.17 | pigeon | hmm, i really hope /etc/hostname should be a conffile |
| 23:44.46 | pigeon | err... there's no fileutils package in 0.8? |
| 23:46.32 | reenoo | no |
| 23:46.53 | reenoo | you're probably looking for coreutils |
| 23:48.51 | reenoo | it's been renamed upstream |
| 23:50.19 | pigeon | oh, thanks, that's what I need :) |