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00:10.59reenoo'night all
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08:57.50florian_kcre
08:58.55unknown26wb florian_kc
08:59.32koengood morning all
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09:00.10koenhey p0m
09:00.14p0mHey koen.
09:00.22p0mManage to find out what the issue is with gpe-nmf?
09:00.25unknown26good morning koen
09:00.52koenhey unknown26
09:00.57ade|deskmorning all
09:01.14koenhey ade|desk
09:09.05p0m^^
09:09.32koenp0m: not yet, but there will be a new version soon
09:09.43p0mCool.
09:09.53koenas jamey added http streaming and converted the playlist to gmarkup
09:14.34florian_kchi unknown26, hi koen
09:14.47florian_kchi ade|desk
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09:47.14koenhey mallum
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09:50.05koenhey pb_
09:50.44mallumhey koen, pb_
09:53.50pb_hi all
09:57.00florian_kcpb_: hello!
09:58.03florian_kcDid i mention that i hate NAND? :-/
09:58.22pb_florian_kc: good morning!
09:58.27pb_heh, no, you didn't mention that.
10:02.14p0mkoen: Where was the CVS readme for kbdd again?
10:03.05florian_kcpb_: I'm fighting the new version of the Integral - H&W switched to a 128MB NAND chip which seems to behave different from the old 32MB one... it reports all blocks as bad.
10:03.36pb_ah, that can't be good
10:03.43p0mNevermind, found it.
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10:06.05bedboihi there
10:06.12florian_kchi bedboi
10:06.49bedboithis night i slept in my new home :)
10:07.46koenbedboi: and how did it feel?
10:08.00bedboireally good
10:08.17bedboithe house i quite perfect.
10:08.21bedboii just need adsl now
10:08.27bedboi:)
10:08.36bedboithen it will be perfect
10:08.40florian_kccool
10:15.10bedboigallery ?
10:15.37koengallery.sf.net
10:16.48bedboiah, yep i got that too
10:16.51bedboilocally
10:17.07bedboiit seems to be really cool
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10:59.23p0mI read that as "arseblocks" for some reason.
10:59.30koenheh
11:01.12florian_kcp0m: well... that's not to far from the truth ;-)
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12:03.58reenooafternoon
12:06.28florian_kchi reenoo
12:07.29reenoomoin florian_kc
12:36.35koenhey reenoo
12:37.19reenoohi koen
12:43.47koenreenoo: you said sys/types.h should contain caddr_t, right?
12:51.53koenhmm
12:57.50reenooyou shouldn't include any linux/*.h directly
12:59.20koenok
12:59.52koenmb-applet-wireless.c does have a #include <sys/types.h>, and it fails on caddr_t
13:01.51florian_kcDo we have a fix for that teleport build issue?
13:02.05koenteleport build issue?
13:03.09florian_kc| crypt.o(.text+0x3c): In function `sign_challenge':
13:03.09florian_kc| crypt.c: undefined reference to `displaymigration_crypt_create_hash'
13:03.09florian_kc| crypt.o(.text+0x4c):crypt.c: undefined reference to `displaymigration_crypt_sign_hash'
13:03.24koenah, not yet
13:03.27pb_oh, right.  it needs to include some of the code from the old libdm.
13:03.48pb_just copy crypt.c into the teleport source directory, and add it to the makefile
13:03.56florian_kcok
13:06.11reenookoen: does it work with a #define __USE_BSD before the #include ?
13:07.45koennope
13:08.24koenehm
13:08.37koen#define __USE_BSD
13:08.38koen#include <sys/types.h>
13:08.43pb_you mustn't define __USE_BSD yourself.
13:08.51pb_use -D_BSD_SOURCE, or -D_GNU_SOURCE
13:08.53koenor #define __USE_BSD #include <sys/types.h>
13:09.03pb_koen: the former
13:09.56koendoes anybody have an idea why this started happening?
13:10.03pb_nope
13:10.08pb_I don't think glibc has changed.
13:10.25pb_someone would need to figure out _when_ it started happening, and then look at the diffs.
13:11.05pb_the only library I can think of that's changed recently is libx11.
13:11.22pb_it's conceivable that libx11 used to always turn on _BSD_SOURCE and has stopped doing that, or something.
13:13.00koenbut adding the #define should have fixed it, right?
13:13.18florian_kchrm... rosetta seems to suffer from something like this too.
13:15.06pb_koen: which #define?
13:15.18koen#define __USE_BSD
13:15.22pb_no
13:15.25pb_<pb_> you mustn't define __USE_BSD yourself.
13:15.25pb_<pb_> use -D_BSD_SOURCE, or -D_GNU_SOURCE
13:15.51pb_if you try to #define __USE_BSD by hand, glibc will just #undef it again.
13:15.56pb_you must not do that.
13:17.13koenyup, that did the trick
13:17.24koen-D_BSD_SOURCE
13:17.33pb_ok, very good
13:17.47koenone down
13:18.04florian_kc-D_GNU_SOURC did the trick for rosetta...
13:18.11pb_very good
13:21.44reenoopb_: ah, ok. at least I was on the right track ;)
13:25.01koenI sent a small update email to the OE list
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13:57.57jameykoen:  any chance I can talk you into building new packages for gst-plugins and gpe-nmf?
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14:02.01TyggerBobMorning all
14:03.20koenhey jamey & TyggerBob
14:03.33koenjamey: I'm giving that a try now
14:04.08TyggerBobHey jamey, koen, pb_, florian_kc, mallum
14:04.20florian_kchi TyggerBob, hi jamey
14:09.14TyggerBobhehe
14:09.27TyggerBobI always feel like I just walked into a pub when I join this channel
14:09.39florian_kc*gg*
14:09.41reenoore
14:09.45reenoohey jamey
14:09.46TyggerBobHeya reenoo
14:09.48reenoohi TyggerBob
14:09.52koenflorian_kc: http://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=themes-and-art
14:11.24florian_kckoen: cool! that's a nice idea...
14:12.00koenI'll replace those after I uses Cwiiis's fix for the angelistic theme
14:13.19reenookoen: how did you go about installing cgi's in ~/public_html ? I tried something similar last night and couldn't get the cgi's to work...
14:14.02florian_kcreenoo: on hh.org?
14:14.04koenplain php should work
14:14.20reenooflorian_kc: yes
14:14.44mallumhey TyggerBob
14:14.52florian_kcreenoo: yes... php works fine, see last link...
14:15.26reenoofor pyblosxom it'd have to be plain old cgi support I guess
14:27.11jameyhi all
14:28.25mallumhey jamey
14:28.59koenok, gst-plugins are building
14:33.57jameydid anyone have an opinion on the playlist splicing/nesting question I posted to gpe mailing list?
14:34.26koenI couldn't figure out the difference, so I didn't reply :)
14:34.59jameyit's probably best to try it out after new gpe-nmf is built
14:35.39reenoojamey: it looks like your gmarkup changes are in cvs already. is that ready for a release? (I'd run a make release and bump the version in OE if that's the case)
14:36.20reenoojamey: otherwise we'd need a gpe-nmf_cvs in OE I guess
14:36.38florian_kcuh no ;-)
14:37.56Cwiiiskoen: ooh, nice :) They'll look a lot better with angelistic ;)
14:39.16Cwiiiskoen: I can take screencaps of MBOpus/Blondie/Default when I get into uni if you want?
14:39.25koenCwiiis: cool
14:39.29Cwiiisk
14:40.38florian_kchmm... is usb networking on h5xxx broken?
14:40.47Cwiiishmm, need to fix the MBOpus theme so that apps like gpe-nmf have a title-bar/close button
14:40.55CwiiisAnyway, I'm off - back in a bit
14:41.17Cwiiisactually, maybe I should wait a bit so I can pick up my pay... yeah... ok, not off yet
14:46.26koenjamey: how does that batch ipkg upload thing work?
14:47.52koenjamey: the new gst-plugins should be in the unstable feed now
14:48.11koen(after I update the Package files)
14:49.11jameykoen:  I'll have to read the source to see how the batch upload thing works
14:49.19jameyI think pb_ wrote that part
15:00.49jameyreenoo:  I haven't tested gpe-nmf on an ipaq yet, but it seems to work well on x86
15:01.19jameyI think it's worth releasing, though we may do another one if anyone wants playlist behavior changes
15:05.26koenwhen someone does a gpe-nmf release I can do the OE part and upload a ipkg to the unstable feed
15:08.14reenoojamey: I'll take care of the release then
15:11.34koenreenoo: 0.20?
15:12.18reenookoen: I have the changes in my local OE tree already
15:12.24koenok
15:19.15reenoojamey: does the httpsrc plugin depend on any other gst plugins?
15:22.40pb_koen: md5sum *.ipk >koen.batch; ipkg-upload koen.batch
15:23.06pb_it'd be easy enough to patch ipkg-upload to construct the batch file automatically if you pass it multiple packages on the commandline.
15:24.29pb_hm, it looks like all those mails from familiar-updates caused our mail server a bit of heartburn.  I guess upload-package.cgi should try to be a bit smarter about that.
15:24.30koenok
15:26.21reenoopb_: any particular reason why you removed the "lame-autoconf.patch" from gst-plugins_0.8.7 ?
15:27.02pb_reenoo: it didn't apply, and it didn't seem to be required anymore.
15:27.34reenoopb_: well. it is required if you have lame built...
15:27.43pb_ah.
15:27.52pb_would you like to update the patch to work with the current gst-plugins?
15:28.03jameyreenoo:  it does not depend on any other plugins
15:28.11reenoojamey: ah, cool
15:28.17reenoopb_: looking into it already
15:28.22pb_great
15:28.28jameyI just verified gst-launch httpclientsrc location=... ! filesink location=... copies file on the ipaq
15:28.51jameyI'm having trouble making it play audio, which makes me think gpe-nmf is missing dependences
15:29.09jameyand esdsink does not show up even after gst-plugin-esd is installed and gst-register is run
15:29.49reenoojamey: that should be fixed with an updated gpe-nmf package. it was lacking a bunch of dependencies
15:31.44reenoojamey: ipkg install gst-plugin-audio gst-plugin-audioconvert gst-plugin-audiofile gst-plugin-esd gst-plugin-typefindfunctions gst-plugin-volume gst-plugin-mad gst-plugin-tagedit
15:32.13reenoojamey: that's for mp3 playback only. haven't got ogg to work yet
15:40.02reenoo~lart whitespace changes that break patches
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15:51.00reenookoen: you mentioned problems with faac... does gstfaac fail to compile for you as well?
15:52.51jameykoen:  I have a script ready to go that will move packages depending on virtual-locale-xx from unstable/ to unstable/locales/xx
15:53.11jameyI would like to try it out to see what it does wrt Packages size
15:53.22koenreenoo: yes, change that in32_t to int, and it compiles
15:53.39koenjamey: go ahead
15:53.44jameycool
15:54.01koenreenoo: that will probably break faac, but at least it will compile
15:56.32koenjamey: any idea why ipkg-make-index -m breaks on h1?
15:56.54jameyI will check into that as well
15:57.09koenthanks
16:18.50pb_iirc, that's caused by an outdated version of ipkg.py
16:20.28jameyI think I just installed the latest ipkg.py
16:21.31kM0ti0nwhat can i use as a filemanager?
16:23.06jameyPackages file is still 2MB
16:23.23jamey700 perl packages, 900 kernel packages, 500 gst packages
16:26.27reenookoen, jamey: gpe-nmf_0.20 is in OE now
16:26.35jameybut splitting out locales removed 2400 packages from main feed
16:26.41jameyreenoo:  thanks!
16:26.43koenreenoo: allready building it
16:29.30TyggerBobkoen: has whatever was broken in OE for the gpe-image build been fixed? If not, what's a good CVS_DATE to use?
16:29.33koenafter a /$url/%(url)l/ ipkg-upload works with batch uploads
16:29.48TyggerBobthe last time I went to build, it done 'sploded.
16:29.57koenTyggerBob: not yet fixed, and it's not cvsdate related
16:30.16koenrolling back the OE tree would be the 'easiest' solution
16:30.26TyggerBobeek
16:30.29reenookoen: ?
16:30.51reenookoen: things are building fine with an ancient CVSDATE here
16:31.08TyggerBobreenoo: how ancient?
16:31.17reenoo_ancient_
16:31.50reenoo$ grep CVSDATE conf/local.conf
16:31.50reenooCVSDATE="20041120"
16:31.50reenooCVSDATE_xdpyinfo = "20041231"
16:32.15koenheh
16:37.10mallumkoen: I cant believe no ones patched the themes for toolbars as yet
16:37.51koenjamey: uploading gst* and gpe-nmf* to unstable right now
16:37.57koenmallum: shit happens
16:38.36mallumkoen: no need for that kind of language young man
16:44.49jameylatest ipkg-make-index is installed along with ipkg.py
16:44.56koenjamey: you should be able to ipkg-install gpe-nmf from the unstable feed now
16:48.48jameyok
16:53.24jameywell, playlist works but if you select a track it segv's
16:57.11koenConfiguring gst-plugins
16:57.11koen//usr/lib/ipkg/info/gst-plugins.postinst: 14: gconftool-2: not found
16:57.13koenhmmm
16:58.04jameyhmm, now I'm missing gst-register
16:58.06koen//usr/lib/ipkg/info/gst-plugin-volume.postinst: 4: gst-register: not found
16:58.30reenoothat's expected. pb_ disabled the registry
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16:58.50jameyit doesn't need the registry?
16:59.11reenooI don't know (TM)
17:02.49jameygst-launch cannot find elements such as filesrc, httpclientsrc, etc
17:12.04pb_ah
17:12.10pb_maybe the registry is more important than I hoped it was
17:12.28pb_it seems a bit useless to have a --disable-registry option if it renders gstreamer unusable, though
17:12.46florian_kchmmm indeed
17:15.22joshinIs there a problem with building diet-x11 6.2.1 with the stock OE config (building gpe-image for Collie/Openzaurus)?  I'm getting errors in KeyBind.c.  
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17:23.01koen18:21 < Company> the registry doesn't use libxml2
17:23.01koen18:22 < Company> it uses glib to parse xml files
17:23.11koenstraight from #gstreamer
17:24.01koen18:22 < Tonyx> I also thought it requires libxml2
17:24.01koen18:22 < Company> not really
17:24.01koen18:23 < Company> noone has attempted to remove it, though it should be pretty easy
17:24.01koen18:23 < Company> the --disable-loadsave stuff should do it
17:25.21koenpb_: so enabling the registry shouldn't pull in libxml (if it was disabled for that reason)
17:26.47reenookoen: well.. regardless.. it does pull in libxml
17:27.32reenookoen: might just be linking against it for no reason or something
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17:30.59koenhey Cwiiis[uni]
17:32.00Cwiiis[uni]hey koen - Will take those scaps
17:32.07koencool
17:36.52Cwiiis[uni]koen: http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22008.png , http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22016.png , http://handhelds.org/scap/port.22025.png
17:40.02koenCwiiis[uni]: thanks, I added those
17:40.19Cwiiis[uni]koen: Cool :) What's the address again? (different computer)
17:40.53koenhttp://handhelds.org/~florian/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=themes-and-art
17:42.23koen/usr/bin/gst-register-0.8: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstindexers.so: undefined symbol: gst_file_index_plugin_init
17:42.42koenone step closer
17:43.47Cwiiis[uni]hehe
17:44.04pb_koen: okay
17:44.20pb_would you like to patch the autostuff to remove libxml2 on just --disable-loadsave
17:44.27pb_even if the registry is still enabled?
17:44.37Cwiiis[uni]Must add 'add totem-gstreamer without Gnome deps to OE' to my todo list...
17:45.08koenpb_: I'll take a look at it
17:45.14pb_cool
17:55.13florian_kcnice
17:58.05pb_not so nice
17:58.55koenone of the gstreamers devs just discovered it works on pda's too :)
17:59.53pb_heh
18:00.04pb_most of the gstreamer developers have known that for years.
18:00.45koenD'oh
18:00.53koenroot@drone:/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8# ipkg remove libxml2
18:00.53koenPackage libxml2 is depended upon by packages:
18:00.53koen<PROTECTED>
18:00.53florian_kcheh
18:01.31mallum~hail ipkg
18:01.33ibotACTION bows down to ipkg and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!"
18:02.27mallumhas anyone tried playing video with recentish gstreamer ?
18:02.44koennot yet
18:05.59Cwiiis[uni]nope
18:12.35koennow building with libxml patched out
18:15.43koenthat blew up quite spectacular
18:24.56koenpb_: bad news: libxml2 is grafted into gstreamer
18:37.25koen|tvreenoo: gstreamer needs libxml2 for the registry, so we are back to square one....
18:43.48reenooI koen|tv: now that you mention it.. I think I come to the same conclusion last week
18:43.54reenoos/come/came/
18:43.56koen|tvheh
18:46.12jameyxmlNode, defined by libxml2, appears in 8 .c files in gstreamer
18:47.04jameymaybe a mini replacement for libxml2, implemented on top of gmarkup, would work
18:47.32Cwiiis[uni]sounds like a good idea
18:52.18mallumthere is also http://www.easysw.com/~mike/mxml/
18:52.52mallumiirc that is tiny
18:53.11mallumand you get a dom/tree like interface
18:57.59amd-rw-r--r--  1 root root 34116  9. okt   13:24 /usr/lib/libmxml.a (that's 2.0)
18:58.05amd30k
19:10.25koen|tvheh
19:10.48koen|tvthe gstreamer people are arguing about libxml2 too
19:14.09pb_koen|tv: so, was Company just mistaken about the registry using glib?
19:15.32jameythat's funny, registry uses gmarkup -- I'm looking at 0.8.9 source code
19:15.49jameyso if loadsave is disabled, then there is no real libxml2 dependence, I think
19:16.54pb_right, that seemed to be what Company was saying in the stuff that koen quoted earlier.
19:17.03pb_I wonder where this dependency is coming from, then.  sounds odd.
19:17.10jameyldd verifies gst-register has no libxml2 dependence
19:17.26jameythere is support in the elements to load or save current state of pipeline to xml
19:17.32jameythat uses libxml2
19:17.49jameyI'm building gstreamer on x86 with --disable-loadsave to see if that does the trick
19:18.05jameyit looks like it is supposed to
19:18.18pb_okay, cool
19:18.22pb_koen|tv: where did it blow up for you?
19:19.28koen|tvcompiling gst without loadsave and libxml patched out of configure.ac
19:19.44pb_right.  what was the error you experienced?
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19:20.48koen|tvthe parser failing to compile on xmlnode
19:21.02pb_which parser was that?
19:21.14koen|tvehm
19:21.17pb_hi zecke
19:21.38koen|tvI'll have an answer in about 10 minutes
19:22.28pb_oh right.  don't worry about it, I guess we can wait to see what jamey comes up with.
19:24.09pb_later all
19:26.51jameyI think a tiny patch will get gstreamer to build without libxml2 and with registry
19:30.01koen|tvjamey: BBB from #gstreamer said he would work on a patch for it, don't know when, though
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19:33.28jameykoen|tv:  saw that too.  I'll be done before he starts unless I get interrupted
19:33.42koen|tvheh
19:33.43jameygot a parse error on FILE *
19:33.53jameyguess xml header was pulling in stdio.h
19:34.37jameybuilt and installed
19:34.44koen|tvcool
19:34.48reenooexcellent
19:34.49jameyldd shows no reference to libxml2 in libgstreamer .so
19:35.43amdso it's without gstreamer?
19:36.28amdduh.. too much i18n stuff today... :P
19:40.02koen|tvreenoo: do you want to add that patch to OE?
19:41.45reenookoen|tv: no, feel free to do that yourself
19:41.50koen|tvok
19:42.00reenooI'm still busy with that gnuplot crap >:)
19:42.00koen|tvjamey: can you mail me a copy of that patch?
19:42.10jameywill do
19:42.15koen|tvthanks
19:43.23reenookoen|tv, jamey: might also send that upstream if the #gstreamer people are interested in it anyway
19:43.50reenoo(additionally to adding it to OE that is)
19:43.54koen|tvreenoo: it's n their bugzilla by now
19:43.59jameyas soon as I get my gnome bugzilla password
19:44.13jameyI'll give them the httpclientsrc patch as well
19:44.22reenooah, cool
19:45.14reenoojamey: in which package does you httpclientsrc plugin end up btw? I haven't noticed any extra package
19:45.19reenoos/you/your/
19:45.37jameyreenoo:  it's part of gsttcp, gst-plugin-tcp
19:46.17florian_kcbbl
19:46.40reenoojamey: ok, I guessed that much. I'll add that to gpe-nmf's RRECOMMENDS then
19:47.49koen|tvNOTE: Applying patch 'no-libxml2'
19:47.49koen|tvNOTE: package gstreamer-0.8.9-r1: task do_patch: completed
19:48.03reenoovery good
19:50.46reenoo~lart bk for being dead slow
19:51.31reenoo~botsnack
19:51.31ibotreenoo: aw, gee
19:57.53koen|tvjamey: the patched gstreamer and updated gpe-nmf are being uploaded
19:58.12jameywe're cookin' today
19:58.28koen|tvindeed
19:58.35reenoo:)
20:01.32reenoonote even
20:01.54reenooand sending
20:01.56reenoodoh
20:02.00koen|tvheh
20:02.05reenoo~herring reenoo
20:02.08ibotACTION whacks reenoo on the side of the head with a large red herring named alfred
20:02.19reenoo~botsnack
20:02.19ibotreenoo: :)
20:03.47reenoohmm
20:04.17reenooI wonder if I can talk france into allowing cgi scripts in ~/public_html
20:07.40koen|tvcan gpe-nmf save playlists?
20:09.43koen|tvhmmm
20:09.50koen|tvyou'll need to do rm /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstindexers.so
20:10.22reenoowhy is that?
20:10.53koen|tvgpe-nmf: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstindexers.so: undefined symbol: gst_file_index_plugin_init
20:13.16koen|tvany idea why gpe-nmf doesn't use the default gtk theme?
20:13.51Cwiiis[uni]koen|tv: It's in the code not to
20:13.59Cwiiis[uni]koen|tv: Don't really know the reason why though
20:14.13koen|tvooow
20:14.16Cwiiis[uni]To provide a unique look I s'pose
20:14.23koen|tvit's ruining my industrial experience
20:14.28Cwiiis[uni]And it couldn't save playlists last time I looked at it (0.19)
20:17.12koen|tvhttp://handhelds.org/scap/port.1488.png
20:17.22koen|tvgpe nmf playing music
20:18.45amdhrm.. I want pda too.. :D
20:19.22koen|tvmallum: what do I need to patch to support minimizing of gpe-nmf and gpe-mixer
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20:20.18koen|tvhey florian & unknown26
20:20.39unknown26hi koen|tv
20:20.57florianhi unknown26, hi koen|tv
20:21.10unknown26hi florian
20:21.24koen|tvflorian: gpe-nmf and gstreamer now work with libxml2
20:21.37koen|tvaaargh
20:21.39koen|tvwithout
20:21.44unknown26heh
20:21.49mallumkoen|tv: the theme.xml files
20:22.46reenoolater all
20:23.38floriankoen|tv: ah good :-)
20:24.01koen|tvflorian: now say thank you to jamey :)
20:24.21florian*g*
20:24.27florianjamey: many thanks! :-)
20:33.04koen|tvmallum: I pasted the utility stuff from http://projects.o-hand.com/matchbox/documentation/themes/x181.html into my theme.xml and now it uses the default theme for the titlebar again
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22:22.50mallumkoen|tv: you likely have an error on your theme.xml
22:23.07mallumkoen|tv: it falls back to the default theme if parse fails
22:30.42koen|tvmallum: the error was stuff directly pasted from o-hand.com
22:32.20mallumkoen: so ?
22:32.33mallumkoen: you pasted the whole theme ?
22:32.56koenno, just the toolbar (utility-min/max) stuff
22:33.15koendoes a parse failure include missing pixmaps?
22:33.30mallumkoen: yep, thats whats likely happerning
22:36.56koenah, ok
22:38.06koenI initially thought "parse error" was "crappy xml"
22:38.44mallumwell it means crappy xml or crappy data in xml
22:38.52mallumits not very verbose at all
22:39.07mallumif you built with expat it should at least show you what it didn't understand
22:39.31mallumits not verbose for speed/size
22:39.53koenI fured as much
22:40.02koenfigured*
22:41.30mallumthe stock themes are pretty easy to customise btw
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22:41.42koenhey p0m
22:41.45mallumits east to change the color of mbopus for example
22:41.51mallumit only uses 1 png image
22:41.54p0mHey koen.
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23:12.27Cwiiis[uni]off home, biab
23:42.06_p0mkoen: Does vlc work currently?
23:42.28koenit does for me
23:44.52_p0mWell I suppose gpe-nmf works for you too? :)
23:45.07koenit does
23:45.31koenipkg install it from the unstable feed and rm the offending gst-plugin
23:45.47_p0mAhh.
23:45.51_p0mWill in a second then.
23:45.57koen21:09 < koen|tv> you'll need to do rm /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstindexers.so
23:45.57koen21:10 < reenoo> why is that?
23:45.57koen21:10 < koen|tv> gpe-nmf: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstindexers.so: undefined symbol: gst_file_index_plugin_init
23:46.00_p0mI don't need gst-plugin now?
23:47.10_p0mAhh.
23:47.16_p0mSo rm that, and install gpe-nmf again.
23:48.34koenthe other way around
23:48.41koeninstall gpe-nmf and rm that plugin
23:48.48_p0mOhh.
23:49.41_p0mMind if I add that to the wiki somewhere?
23:50.08_p0mIe, Release notes.
23:50.20koennot at all
23:50.36koenalthough rn might not be the place for it
23:50.47koensince you'll need stuff from the unstable feed
23:51.06_p0mFair enough.
23:51.25_p0mI'll mention that it's in the world feed.
23:51.33_p0mWait, unstable feed?
23:51.44koenthe world feed has the bad version
23:51.50_p0mUgh.
23:52.09reenoobad version?
23:52.15reenooshould work fine
23:52.23reenoojust lacks a ton of deps
23:52.40koenfor most users that's a bad version
23:53.08reenoofor most users rm /foo/bar is a bad version too
23:53.13koentrue
23:53.22reenooand for me that sounds even worse
23:53.32reenoobecause something's actually broken
23:53.59koenit's quite funny
23:54.15koenaccording to the gstreamer people, that file should provide that symbol
23:55.04koeninstead of rm'ing one could run gst-register with args specifying which plugins to register
23:58.16koenbut it would still count as broken
23:59.56_p0mSo what is it from the unstable feed I'm meant to be installing?

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