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| 08:17.47 | florian | hi all |
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| 09:22.06 | Speuler | 'morning |
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| 09:43.54 | florian | hi Speuler |
| 09:44.16 | Speuler | tach flo |
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| 09:58.37 | florian | hello pb_ |
| 09:59.47 | pb_ | florian: good morning! |
| 10:13.27 | florian | brb, reboot |
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| 10:18.39 | florian | re |
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| 10:59.48 | pb_ | florian: re |
| 11:00.04 | florian | yep... some kernel tweaks... |
| 11:01.30 | pb_ | ah, this new mbdesktop is a big improvement. |
| 11:01.51 | pb_ | The text is much more legible now. |
| 11:02.12 | tigert | the bold font? |
| 11:02.40 | pb_ | well, it's gone from 5 items per line to only 4, and I think the text is at a larger size now than it used to be. |
| 11:03.03 | pb_ | I think it was already bold before, but the combination of bold and the "shadowing" that mbdesktop does didn't look too great at small sizes. |
| 11:03.19 | tigert | it didnt |
| 11:03.19 | tigert | well |
| 11:03.25 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.32 | pb_ | ah, ok |
| 11:03.35 | tigert | since the normal font wasnt thick enough, it got mixed with the shadow |
| 11:03.44 | pb_ | right, that makes sense |
| 11:04.31 | tigert | uh |
| 11:04.36 | tigert | did something change in mb? |
| 11:04.39 | tigert | mine doesnt startup now |
| 11:04.46 | tigert | mbdesktop: mbterm.desktop no good, ignoring |
| 11:04.46 | tigert | mbdesktop: miniwave.desktop no good, ignoring |
| 11:04.46 | tigert | mbdesktop_item.c:188 mbdesktop_items_append_to_folder Passed folder item is not folder |
| 11:04.46 | tigert | mbdesktop: failed to open /usr/local/share/applications |
| 11:06.17 | pb_ | http://handhelds.org/scap/port.21495.png is what I have now. The kerning on "Active" leaves a bit to be desired, and "Sketchbook" is still close to running into "Calendar", but overall it's a definite improvement. |
| 11:06.55 | pb_ | tigert: I see some of that stuff as well, but it doesn't appear to be fatal. |
| 11:06.59 | tigert | ok |
| 11:07.04 | tigert | ah, my disk was full again |
| 11:07.08 | pb_ | doh |
| 11:07.40 | tigert | 16mb is a pain :] |
| 11:07.56 | pb_ | yeah, indeed. |
| 11:08.41 | pb_ | maybe it's time we had another go at slimming down the standard distribution. I think the size of bootgpe2 has been creeping up again over the past few months. |
| 11:10.56 | pb_ | florian: hm, gpe-wlancfg is one of the largest binaries we have. Is this due to glade? |
| 11:11.08 | pb_ | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 116416 Jul 16 23:45 gpe-wlancfg |
| 11:12.43 | pb_ | oh, and gpe-conf is also massive. |
| 11:12.48 | pb_ | -rwsr-tr-x 1 root root 226896 Jul 16 23:45 gpe-conf |
| 11:13.12 | florian | pb_: i'm not sure - but it is larger than it should be. At the moment glade only creates the soure files... |
| 11:13.57 | florian | pb_: I think Ole removed some obsolete handcoded dialogs a few minutes ago... |
| 11:14.11 | pb_ | florian: aha, right |
| 11:15.12 | pb_ | There's no obvious cause I can see for gpe-conf being large. I suppose it's just a complex piece of software. |
| 11:16.51 | florian | pb_: Yes, there is lots of stuff inside... some parts are rather complex - the pcmcia applet and the networking stuff. |
| 11:17.32 | florian | I updated from unstable... gpe-dm doesn't start anymore |
| 11:19.58 | florian | And syslogd isn't started... at least not in runlevel 3 |
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| 11:23.10 | pb_ | florian: darn. |
| 11:23.22 | pb_ | did you get the new update-rc.d before the new gpe-dm? |
| 11:24.02 | pb_ | I guess you should try running gpe-dm.postinst and see what happens. |
| 11:24.13 | florian | pb_: i'm not sure... wait |
| 11:25.31 | florian | pb_: yes, i remember - it created the links - but starting manually doesn't help.... |
| 11:28.35 | pb_ | ah, do you mean gpe-dm starts but gpe-login doesn't? |
| 11:28.57 | pb_ | it looks like I broke /etc/X11/Xinit.d/30xTs_Calibrate in the last version. |
| 11:30.07 | florian | yep, this could be - i have a dark screen with X cursor |
| 11:31.07 | pb_ | okay |
| 11:31.11 | pb_ | let me upload a new version. |
| 11:31.31 | florian | gpe-dm: gpe-dm: session pid ... exited with .... |
| 11:31.40 | florian | this do i get in my log |
| 11:31.44 | pb_ | ipkg install http://handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/gpe-session-scripts_0.48_all.ipk |
| 11:31.45 | pb_ | see if that helps |
| 11:35.17 | florian | hmm, no driver for ma cf wireles an card is loaded.... and i have many of these lines in my log: |
| 11:35.39 | florian | dma period = ..., clok = ... |
| 11:35.43 | florian | eh dmasg |
| 11:35.49 | florian | eh demesg |
| 11:36.03 | pb_ | I think those "dma period" things are from the framebuffer driver. You will get one whenever X restarts. |
| 11:36.08 | florian | ahh |
| 11:36.18 | florian | ah, ok |
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| 11:40.25 | florian | hi mallum |
| 11:41.20 | florian | pb_: yeah, better :-) |
| 11:43.38 | mallum | florian: heya |
| 11:44.02 | pb_ | florian: phew! |
| 11:45.38 | florian | the new mbdesktop looks really better... |
| 11:48.00 | pb_ | yeah |
| 11:49.00 | tigert | except here the thing doesnt start again |
| 11:54.24 | mallum | thing ? |
| 11:57.35 | florian | tigert: did you do the same like me? updating from unstable? |
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| 12:08.02 | mallum | florian: the spacing working better ? |
| 12:09.43 | florian | mallum: which one? |
| 12:11.55 | mallum | florian: 4 apps per row rather than 5 on desktop |
| 12:14.12 | florian | mallum: yep, this makes it easier with the labels... |
| 12:15.44 | mallum | florian: cool |
| 12:42.51 | mallum | florian: I'll me offline for most of next week and then definetly for the next 3 after that |
| 12:55.31 | pb_ | florian: is bug 763 still a problem, or should it be closed? |
| 13:29.47 | florian | mallum: ah yes, i know - have fun! |
| 13:31.06 | florian | pb_: oh, i didn't try so far... but i could do this later |
| 13:34.12 | pb_ | florian: no rush, just looking over old bugzilla reports. |
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| 13:39.49 | jblinux | hi florian |
| 13:40.03 | jblinux | hi pb_ |
| 13:41.12 | pb_ | hi jblinux |
| 13:41.12 | florian | jblinux: hi |
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| 14:24.04 | tigert | argh |
| 14:24.09 | tigert | so the thing doesnt boot right now |
| 14:24.13 | tigert | well |
| 14:24.24 | tigert | it boots but stops before the login |
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| 14:24.39 | pb_ | do you get a black screen with the X cursor? |
| 14:24.43 | tigert | ya |
| 14:24.47 | tigert | and now |
| 14:24.48 | tigert | heh |
| 14:24.51 | tigert | ipkg upgrade |
| 14:24.54 | pb_ | sounds like you fell for my earlier joke version of gpe-session-scripts. |
| 14:25.00 | tigert | *pong* it popped up the login thing |
| 14:25.03 | tigert | yea |
| 14:25.05 | pb_ | that's the same problem florian was having |
| 14:25.09 | tigert | Downloading http://familiar.handhelds.org/feeds/unstable/gpe-session-scripts_0.48_all.ipk |
| 14:25.10 | pb_ | ah right :-) |
| 14:25.11 | tigert | :) |
| 14:25.14 | tigert | exactly |
| 14:25.30 | tigert | so it still forgets the calibration every boot |
| 14:25.41 | pb_ | oh hell, does it? I hoped that was fixed. |
| 14:51.31 | pb_ | tigert: maybe you can take a look at /etc/X11/Xinit.d/30xTs_Calibrate and try to figure out why it isn't restoring the calibration correctly. |
| 14:52.50 | tigert | well |
| 14:53.01 | tigert | what calibration tool is the one which has white bg and blue crosses? |
| 14:53.08 | tigert | xcalibrate is the other one |
| 14:53.15 | tigert | but it wouldnt work even with xcalibrate installed |
| 14:53.29 | tigert | (xcalibrate isnt installed in the familiar gpe image) |
| 14:53.40 | pb_ | tigert: xtscal is the white+blue tool |
| 14:53.48 | tigert | ok |
| 14:54.20 | pb_ | we stopped using xcalibrate because it doesn't work on newer ipaqs, and looks even uglier than xtscal does. |
| 14:54.30 | tigert | umok |
| 14:54.31 | tigert | yes |
| 14:54.45 | tigert | so the init script uses xcalibrate still |
| 14:54.49 | tigert | that would be the reason |
| 14:54.56 | pb_ | even in the latest version? |
| 14:55.10 | pb_ | it ought to support both now. |
| 14:55.41 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.42 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.42 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.42 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.42 | pb_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.44 | pb_ | that kind of thing. |
| 14:56.10 | tigert | well |
| 14:56.18 | tigert | no |
| 14:56.19 | tigert | it is not that |
| 14:56.52 | tigert | if [ -f /etc/xcalibrate.conf ]; then |
| 14:56.52 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.52 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.52 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.52 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.53 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.55 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.57 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:56.59 | tigert | else |
| 14:57.01 | tigert | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.03 | tigert | fi |
| 14:57.06 | tigert | the /usr/bin/gpe-xcalibrate.sh has stuff about the other tool |
| 14:57.12 | tigert | but it is silly to split it like that |
| 14:57.19 | tigert | and that other script never reads it |
| 14:57.20 | tigert | no wait |
| 14:57.21 | tigert | argh |
| 14:57.25 | tigert | I am blind apparently |
| 14:58.35 | tigert | it *should* work yea |
| 14:59.13 | tigert | or maybe that works now too after I updated |
| 14:59.21 | tigert | yes |
| 14:59.30 | tigert | so it was fixed today/yesterday |
| 15:00.04 | pb_ | ah right, cool |
| 15:01.28 | tigert | should aerial work? |
| 15:01.46 | pb_ | depends on your network card. |
| 15:01.58 | pb_ | I think it prefers the orinoco driver to hostap (which is the default)/ |
| 15:02.10 | tigert | wvlan_cs 33176 1 |
| 15:02.18 | pb_ | oh, right |
| 15:02.27 | tigert | hm |
| 15:02.31 | pb_ | not sure what the situation is with wvlan. Florian is the gpe-aerial dude. |
| 15:02.37 | tigert | since I know my airport card works on the laptop, but I had to patch it |
| 15:03.00 | tigert | it works with stuff like airsnort |
| 15:03.23 | pb_ | right |
| 15:05.19 | florian | wvlan_cs doesn't work... no monitor mode support. in theory hostap_cs, orinoco_cs and prism2_cs (wlan-ng) should work... |
| 15:05.38 | florian | aironet could be supported, but i have nothing to test... |
| 15:06.15 | florian | ah yes, hostap monitor mode is broken in ipaq... |
| 15:07.39 | pb_ | florian: btw, jamey checked hostap_cs 0.0.4 into cvs, and I will build new packages later today. |
| 15:10.38 | florian | pb_: good - 0.0.4 is more or less a bugfixing release... but i fear that noone of the hostap guy has an arm machine to test... they tend to ignore arm related questions in the mailinglist. |
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| 15:13.30 | pb_ | florian: maybe we should send one of them an ipaq. |
| 15:14.14 | tigert | are some of you hacking on gpe at work btw? |
| 15:14.15 | florian | pb_: yeah.... any idea where they are on this planet? |
| 15:14.22 | tigert | or are everyone just volunteer hacking for fun? |
| 15:14.55 | pb_ | tigert: yes, I get to spend some work time on gpe. |
| 15:14.59 | tigert | ok |
| 15:15.23 | pb_ | florian: nope. could try to find out though. |
| 15:15.31 | florian | :-) |
| 15:17.32 | florian | tigert: at the moment im fully volunteer... ok let's say kc itself spends free time in gpe :-) |
| 15:17.59 | tigert | :) |
| 15:25.58 | tigert | have you seen Howl btw? |
| 15:26.08 | tigert | the Rendezvous thing for linux |
| 15:26.40 | florian | not yet... have a link? |
| 15:27.09 | pb_ | tigert: oh, no, hadn't heard of that. sounds cool. |
| 15:27.19 | tigert | yea |
| 15:27.23 | tigert | it's free AFAIK |
| 15:27.27 | tigert | no idea how big it is |
| 15:27.40 | pb_ | certainly be worth a look. |
| 15:31.03 | tigert | yea |
| 15:31.23 | tigert | when apps support this, it's gonna be cool |
| 15:31.33 | tigert | like you can export your business card from the addressbook |
| 15:31.40 | tigert | or your public calendar |
| 15:31.47 | pb_ | right. |
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| 15:52.11 | pb_ | florian: it appears the hostap guy is in Finland. |
| 15:58.09 | pb_ | ah, I see hostap now includes a prism2 firmware upgrading utility as well. maybe I should package that for Familiar so we can see if newer firmware helps. |
| 15:58.45 | florian | pb_: ok... would be a good choice for holiday :-) |
| 15:59.08 | pb_ | :-) |
| 16:00.32 | florian | brb, rebooting |
| 16:02.35 | mallum | tigert: I tried out the howl but didn't get very far - did you ? |
| 16:03.19 | mallum | tigert: Id like to hack redezvous into X to make display migration easy .. maybe :-) |
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| 16:03.42 | tigert | mallum: didnt |
| 16:03.46 | tigert | I just found it |
| 16:03.46 | florian | re |
| 16:03.48 | tigert | didnt look much |
| 16:03.56 | tigert | it is more like an API than something for me as an end user |
| 16:04.00 | tigert | but I need to have a look |
| 16:04.19 | tigert | I am not a coder so APIs dont interest me much since I have no clue :) |
| 16:05.07 | mallum | tigert: it had some little demo apps, but I couldn't seem to get them to work |
| 16:06.31 | pb_ | <kergoth> pb_: hey, wonder if hostap w/ firmware download could support the symbol/spectrum cf cards.. they're prism based, but had to use those other drivers since they need the firmware download at init time.. |
| 16:06.37 | pb_ | florian: any thoughts on that remark from kergoth? |
| 16:06.50 | pb_ | you and Nils have symbol cards, right? |
| 16:07.08 | mallum | tigert: I started hacking the wider mbinputmgr stuff for the new icons |
| 16:07.16 | tigert | cool |
| 16:07.35 | mallum | tigert: its gonna be slightly harder than I though, as it will have to rotate the icons for vertical panels |
| 16:08.16 | florian | pb_: sounds interesting... |
| 16:08.40 | florian | pb_: nils has a socket card... let me ask him. |
| 16:09.08 | pb_ | florian: thanks |
| 16:13.44 | tigert | mallum: shouldnt the panel be on the bottom always? |
| 16:14.00 | tigert | I think it makes more sense there |
| 16:14.05 | tigert | it is pretty hard to use the menus on the side |
| 16:15.44 | mallum | tigert: on some screen sizes it makes more sense to have the panel vertical, so you get more screen space |
| 16:16.09 | mallum | tigert: for apps |
| 16:18.10 | tigert | maybe |
| 16:18.16 | tigert | but the panel is not that big though |
| 16:18.25 | tigert | like on the ipaq, it is just OK |
| 16:18.39 | tigert | it is just harder to use on the side |
| 16:18.44 | tigert | I'd rather have it autohide then |
| 16:27.24 | mallum | tigert:It doesn't have to flip on the ipaq after a rotation, you can turn it off |
| 16:28.44 | mallum | tigert: it just does that currently aswell to avoid the problem of what happens when you fill a large panel up, rotate it so it becomes small - what happens to the overflowing apps |
| 17:25.19 | florian | pb_: nils told me there must be some more stuff in spectrum24 driver... but it should be easy to add support for it to hostap. |
| 17:25.51 | pb_ | florian: ok. well, I'll build hostap with the downloader enabled, and we can try to figure out what else is required. |
| 17:33.08 | florian | pb_: ok |
| 17:33.12 | florian | brb, rebootinh |
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| 18:15.33 | Speuler | semtex = ipaq irc client |
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| 18:25.10 | florian | re |
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| 18:36.03 | pb_ | florian: crumbs, a simpad user! |
| 18:37.10 | florian | pb_: eh, yes?! |
| 18:38.23 | florian | pb_: The mail on gpe-ml? |
| 18:38.47 | pb_ | Yeah. |
| 18:40.31 | florian | pb_: Marcus told me the same today - there is still a problem with the kerenl of the small simpads... |
| 18:40.42 | florian | nilsf: ping |
| 18:43.59 | pb_ | florian: ah. |
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| 20:00.42 | nilsf | florian: pong :) |
| 20:05.36 | florian | nilsf: Looks like the simpad image for the CL/t-sinus still doesn't work. |
| 20:06.50 | nilsf | I know... nobody changed it so why should it suddenly work? |
| 20:32.48 | pb_ | florian: kernel hh20 is in the 2.4.19 feed now |
| 20:33.33 | florian | pb_: weeee... and i forn a bug i started searching about 48 hours ago - _now_ i'm back! |
| 20:33.42 | florian | s/forn/found |
| 20:33.47 | pb_ | florian: cool! |
| 20:38.01 | pb_ | I also uploaded hostap-utils to unstable, which includes the firmware downloader and a couple of other things. |
| 20:38.07 | florian | mallum: i managed to crash mbdesktop rotating the screen |
| 20:39.25 | florian | pb_: nice, will we be able to turn the ipaq into a full-featured accespoint? ;-) |
| 20:40.08 | pb_ | florian: ah, for that you need hostapd. I'm not sure what the packaging status of that is: let me find out. |
| 20:40.53 | pb_ | btw, if anybody else is plagued with a slow link, you might like to know that ipkg 0.99.88 can use gzipped Packages files for "ipkg update". |
| 20:42.00 | florian | mallum: changing the iconsize to 36 px, mbdesktop displays only three icons in a row... |
| 20:43.52 | florian | pb_: yep... i don't think many people will need this - but i saw this in oldenburg last year.... |
| 20:44.21 | pb_ | florian: right. |
| 20:45.00 | florian | ok, trying to update... |
| 20:45.57 | florian | now let's look what ole did today... |
| 20:50.02 | pb_ | florian: hostapd was not packaged, but is now. |
| 20:52.08 | florian | pb_: i'll try this some time... but first we have some work to do :-) |
| 20:53.45 | pb_ | florian: aha! with station firmware 1.7.4, my prism2 card seems to work with gpe-aerial using hostap_cs. |
| 20:54.16 | florian | pb_: cool! need to try this! |
| 20:54.27 | pb_ | florian: my previous firmware was much older - 1.3.6. |
| 20:55.05 | pb_ | I used the image from http://www.red-bean.com/~proski/firmware/1.7.4.tar.gz |
| 20:55.26 | pb_ | "prism2_srec -r wlan0 rf010704.hex" seems to be the command to use. |
| 20:58.19 | florian | pb_: i'll try this... i have a siemens prism2 card with really old firmware. |
| 20:59.15 | florian | pb_: there is a problem with the sshd and scp packages - they both install scp |
| 20:59.37 | pb_ | florian: yes, you should not use those two together. |
| 20:59.50 | pb_ | florian: scp is for use with dropbear. |
| 21:00.43 | pb_ | is there some dependency issue that is causing both to be installed at once? |
| 21:01.15 | florian | pb_: did you package this tool to update the prism firmware too? |
| 21:01.23 | pb_ | florian: yes, it's in hostap-utils. |
| 21:01.41 | florian | pb_: cool.... |
| 21:01.50 | florian | looks like it survived... |
| 21:02.01 | pb_ | I also included "hostap_rid" and "hostap_crypt_conf" in that package, though I have no idea what they do. |
| 21:02.37 | florian | weeeee...... mmc is back :-) |
| 21:03.00 | pb_ | :-) |
| 21:03.58 | florian | i need a better icon for aerial... :-/ |
| 21:04.18 | pb_ | maybe tigert could help with that. |
| 21:04.27 | pb_ | if you ask him nicely :-) |
| 21:04.29 | florian | yep |
| 21:06.50 | florian | tigert: still there? |
| 21:08.57 | florian | pb_: Seems to work witt my dcf-660/fw1.3.6.... now i'll try to update this siemens one |
| 21:09.10 | pb_ | florian: sounds good |
| 21:11.48 | tigert | sorta |
| 21:11.50 | tigert | what's up? |
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| 21:14.07 | florian | tigert: Would you like to look at gpe-aerial... this icon it uses in the dock is not a good solution i think. Any better idea about this? |
| 21:14.33 | tigert | the star? |
| 21:14.37 | tigert | yea, lemme think about that |
| 21:14.38 | tigert | 16x16? |
| 21:15.01 | florian | tigert: yep... |
| 21:15.04 | florian | (both) |
| 21:15.11 | florian | chrisime: hello |
| 21:15.16 | chrisime | sers |
| 21:15.23 | pb_ | hi chrisime |
| 21:15.56 | chrisime | hi pb |
| 21:17.17 | florian | tigert: I tried to create a kind of generic "antenna" symbol... without success. |
| 21:20.09 | tigert | ok |
| 21:20.13 | tigert | I can try it tomorrow |
| 21:20.51 | florian | tigert: this would be really reall nice :-) |
| 21:21.34 | florian | tigert: but no need to hurry, gpe-aerial has not that high priority... |
| 21:27.33 | florian | pb_: it doesn't lic my NICID :-/ |
| 21:28.00 | pb_ | florian: oh dear. |
| 21:28.18 | pb_ | could try some of the other files to see if any of them are better. |
| 21:28.24 | pb_ | I had to use trial and error to figure out which was right. |
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| 21:29.43 | florian | pb_: ok... |
| 21:37.09 | florian | the -i switch seems to be broken :-/ |
| 21:37.30 | pb_ | oh. |
| 21:39.44 | pb_ | mallum: h5400 vram write bandwidth from cpu seems to be about 7.5MB/s |
| 21:39.47 | florian | but upgrading my dwl-650 seems to work |
| 21:39.54 | pb_ | strange. |
| 21:40.19 | pb_ | maybe the Siemens uses a different prism chip. do you know which version it is? |
| 21:43.12 | florian | pb_: only the id and versions i get from hostap... |
| 21:45.49 | florian | Downloading to non-volatile memory (flash). |
| 21:45.49 | florian | Note! This can take about 30 seconds. Do _not_ remove card during download. |
| 21:45.49 | florian | Odd.. Download request for the kernel driver failed. |
| 21:45.49 | florian | Are you sure you have compiled (and loaded the correct version of) |
| 21:45.49 | florian | hostap.o module with PRISM2_DOWNLOAD_SUPPORT definition in |
| 21:45.49 | florian | driver/module/hostap_config.h? |
| 21:45.53 | florian | ioctl[PRISM2_IOCTL_DOWNLOAD]: Operation not supported |
| 21:46.12 | pb_ | ah, I was doing the download to ram, not flash. |
| 21:46.33 | florian | pb_: yep - ram works fine |
| 21:49.55 | pb_ | ah right |
| 22:07.11 | florian | seems to be to hot for my croyycompiler :-/ |
| 22:07.26 | florian | s/croyycompiler/crosscompiler |
| 22:08.05 | florian | ok, need some sleep - will be back sunday |
| 22:08.54 | pb_ | florian: later |
| 22:09.19 | florian | yep - night all! |
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| 22:54.18 | tigert | night |
| 22:59.22 | mallum | g'night mr tigert |
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