| 00:08.11 | Stephmw | hey z00dax |
| 00:08.20 | Stephmw | kicks SDM in the ball |
| 00:09.51 | kjs | sdm is teh suck |
| 00:11.10 | Stephmw | seems to work 1 time out of 25 |
| 00:11.44 | kjs | iv only used it to move acl's up in the list above deny any |
| 00:12.42 | z00dax | speaking of Cisco, I've been wanting to look at vyatta |
| 00:17.36 | kjs | z00dax: looks intersting. |
| 00:17.46 | kjs | (just googled it). |
| 00:34.20 | kjs | Which vendor sells a single-port Fast Ethernet NIC for $639? |
| 00:34.23 | kjs | Cisco |
| 00:50.03 | z00dax | i need to investigate this system noise thing in my machine room |
| 00:50.13 | z00dax | i think the amd64x2 is on its way out |
| 01:41.39 | morsing | Beer |
| 01:42.27 | z00dax | too late for that |
| 01:42.33 | z00dax | also my feet are cold |
| 01:43.11 | morsing | sucks on z00dax' feet |
| 01:44.17 | z00dax | aaaaaaaaaag! |
| 01:44.21 | z00dax | hides feed |
| 01:44.23 | z00dax | feet! |
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| 02:47.41 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 02:49.56 | *** join/#gllug Leeds (n=richardc@awork150006.netvigator.com) |
| 02:51.33 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 02:51.48 | Leeds | morsing: fuck off |
| 02:52.43 | catalyst | O_o |
| 02:52.45 | catalyst | hi Leeds |
| 02:52.58 | Leeds | morning catalyst |
| 02:53.01 | catalyst | morning :) |
| 02:53.09 | catalyst | can't sleep |
| 02:55.06 | Leeds | 11am here :-) |
| 02:55.16 | Leeds | I would be sleeping if not for this annoying work thing |
| 02:55.39 | catalyst | heh =) |
| 02:55.41 | catalyst | crazy times |
| 02:56.50 | morsing | Sushi |
| 02:56.56 | morsing | has just been shopping |
| 02:57.00 | Leeds | no, I had sushi last night |
| 02:57.12 | catalyst | ooh |
| 02:57.15 | catalyst | I could go shopping |
| 02:57.21 | catalyst | but I might get mugged on the way |
| 03:00.37 | morsing | managed not to |
| 03:02.02 | Leeds | not a problem around here, thankfully |
| 03:07.12 | morsing | WOW!! Wasabi rush!!! |
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| 07:56.59 | j0nr | morning! |
| 07:57.34 | j0nr | there was something up with my computer at home yesterday so i couldnt log in from work... i felt empty :| |
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| 08:14.50 | Leeds | sabinef72: good morning |
| 08:33.11 | *** join/#gllug ChoHag (i=mking@87.127.170.250) |
| 08:43.31 | ChoHag | Oh no wonder a load of useless crap's installed. I'm not on the box I thought I was. |
| 08:43.37 | ChoHag | Now I have to reconfigure samba... |
| 09:01.24 | kjs | Morning |
| 09:01.53 | kjs | ChoHag: "Doh" |
| 09:02.16 | kjs | wonders if sabinef72 ever speaks? |
| 09:21.10 | wethrin | rarely, but sometimes |
| 09:40.04 | ChoHag | I am waiting for my 'team leader', who sits behind me, to send me an email asking me to go to our DR site today. |
| 09:40.42 | ChoHag | Then I can read it and tell him why it's not a good idea but I wouldn't particularly mind effectively having the day off. |
| 09:41.13 | wethrin | Why is it not a good idea? |
| 09:41.45 | ChoHag | Because I only have access to public transport and it's a long way away. |
| 09:42.57 | wethrin | Ah |
| 09:48.42 | morsing | sabinef72! |
| 09:48.44 | morsing | ChoHag! |
| 09:48.46 | morsing | jpds! |
| 09:56.14 | ChoHag | Maybe I'll stop off at home and grab my laptop. |
| 09:56.20 | ChoHag | Shame it's got Windows on it. |
| 10:05.36 | kjs | fucking freezing in here |
| 10:06.58 | morsing | Beer |
| 10:10.07 | kjs | how do you guys go about backing up your subversion ? |
| 10:10.09 | Nafallo | freezing beer |
| 10:14.24 | kjs | ill stick to my cup of tea |
| 10:14.35 | morsing | Yuck |
| 10:20.55 | hali | kjs: svnadmin dump is handy |
| 10:21.59 | kjs | hali: yeah, can i dump the repo whil it's online? |
| 10:22.05 | hali | yes |
| 10:22.16 | Nafallo | bzr ftmfw |
| 10:22.30 | Nafallo | just branch it of somewhere else and you're done :-P |
| 10:22.31 | kjs | sweet, i was thinking about doing that once a night and svnsync as well possibly. |
| 10:22.59 | kjs | Nafallo: what the does bzr ftmfw mean? |
| 10:23.22 | hali | well if we're going to have a version control systems i have to say i favour perforce |
| 10:23.32 | Nafallo | bazaar for the mother fucking win :-) |
| 10:30.04 | hali | p4 is way more productive |
| 10:30.14 | hali | but not floss so i guess the fanboys will diss it :) |
| 10:30.24 | hali | it is free actually |
| 10:30.29 | hali | but not open source |
| 10:30.33 | hali | and only free up to two user :P |
| 10:32.25 | z00dax | git, if you can get your head around it, is where the action is at |
| 10:32.32 | z00dax | bzr is a waste of time |
| 10:33.06 | z00dax | talkto the mysql guys about it if you want a real opinion. After canonical spent 8 months trying to get it working the way mysql wanted, the mysql guys are all mostly now using git internally. |
| 10:36.03 | Nafallo | I haven't got the needs mysql does. I want something easy and working. bzr does that for me. |
| 10:37.03 | kjs | bzr is not foss? |
| 10:43.02 | Nafallo | kjs: yes it is. |
| 10:43.13 | Nafallo | http://bazaar-vcs.org/ |
| 10:44.22 | antiphase | SVN's fine if you don't have too many people pounding at it. The Joost one seems to be fine at 180k commit |
| 10:45.31 | Nafallo | on the other hand, I use bzr-svn for svn archives ;-) |
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| 11:10.49 | morsing | Leeds! |
| 11:10.57 | Leeds | fuck off and die |
| 11:23.14 | z00dax | svn is also cool, there are plenty of tools around it now, and most people have got their heads around it well. |
| 11:23.30 | z00dax | also, unlike the classic open source dev model, most people dont code in islands |
| 12:05.47 | gregj | Leeds: ;> |
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| 12:32.32 | wethrin | hey dick_turpin |
| 12:32.55 | dick_turpin | wethrin: nope not yet :-( |
| 12:33.44 | wethrin | booo |
| 12:33.50 | wethrin | At this rate, I'm going to have to go and *buy* one |
| 12:35.11 | z00dax | whatcha looking for |
| 12:35.28 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Um, depends, we get the odd one given to us now and again if you hang on I can look into it |
| 12:36.07 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Actualy I think I'm due a Chamber of commerce one (West Mids) |
| 12:43.56 | wethrin | z00dax: A diary |
| 12:44.02 | wethrin | Preferably pocket sized |
| 12:45.04 | dick_turpin | wethrin: Any particular colour, covering, layout .... bloody picky freebie hunters ;-) |
| 12:45.55 | wethrin | Well, one week spread across two pages would be nice |
| 12:46.33 | wethrin | Colour - not pink |
| 12:46.38 | dick_turpin | wethrin: I used to buy these http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/quovadis/?gclid=CIW7u7HIs5cCFU4g3godxyK-jA |
| 12:46.41 | wethrin | Covering - not hardback |
| 12:47.01 | dick_turpin | In fact this one http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=2113 |
| 12:48.06 | dick_turpin | Just buy the refill any old plastic folder cover should fit it |
| 12:48.31 | dick_turpin | Oh hang on its not pocket size |
| 12:48.38 | wethrin | yeah |
| 12:49.32 | dick_turpin | Ooh there's a University one: http://www.bureaudirect.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=2084 |
| 12:49.50 | wethrin | You don't have any spare, then, dick_turpin? :) |
| 12:50.22 | dick_turpin | Not yet, like all the punters everyone is waiting for the last minute :-( |
| 12:55.48 | wethrin | boo |
| 12:55.52 | dick_turpin | Just heard something outrageous, given the VAT cut company's such as HP have put their prices up for suppliers! |
| 12:59.52 | *** part/#gllug Mohan (i=roughele@the-master.org) |
| 13:01.29 | wethrin | yeah |
| 13:02.58 | dick_turpin | Mind you its an 'ill wind' the refurbished market is flooded with kit at the moment |
| 13:07.35 | wethrin | http://www.euroffice.co.uk/i/cbf/5-Star-Office-2009-Pocket-Diary-Slim-Week-to-View-Portrait-70gsm-160x80mm-Black |
| 13:07.40 | wethrin | Hm, £2. Not too bad, I suppose |
| 13:08.22 | dick_turpin | You cheap skate ;-) |
| 13:09.22 | dick_turpin | Next you'll be getting a pen, ruler and a stapler and making your own :-D |
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| 13:10.24 | wethrin | Bangin'! ebay comes up trumps, again |
| 13:10.34 | wethrin | Correct size, and all |
| 13:10.48 | dick_turpin | 50p ? |
| 13:10.57 | wethrin | 99p + 55p postage |
| 13:11.04 | dick_turpin | rotflmao |
| 13:13.04 | wethrin | but it's properly pocket sized |
| 13:13.10 | wethrin | Which means it won't stick out of my pocket |
| 13:13.46 | wethrin | http://ebay.celestrion.net/250338358057 # see? |
| 13:15.51 | morsing | Mohan! |
| 13:15.51 | kjs | I just use iCal, save the trees |
| 13:16.56 | dick_turpin | A bit hard to fit that in your pocket |
| 13:21.06 | z00dax | unless your mobile supports it |
| 13:21.43 | kjs | which it does |
| 13:21.50 | Mohan | morsing: ? |
| 13:21.57 | kjs | + it syncs to google calendar |
| 13:22.16 | dick_turpin | good point |
| 13:22.35 | kjs | which syncs to thunderbird |
| 13:32.32 | wethrin | That's fine. If you have mobile signal |
| 13:32.42 | wethrin | But I like the instantaneousness of dead tree |
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| 13:35.28 | Stephmw | starts hunting around for the netgear WGR614L-100UKS |
| 13:42.01 | z00dax | wethrin: you dont need a mobile signal to handle calendar app on the mobile |
| 13:42.10 | z00dax | you only need the network to sync up stuff to other places |
| 13:44.38 | morsing | Beer |
| 13:45.58 | wethrin | Still. I prefer dead tree |
| 13:46.02 | wethrin | It's always there |
| 13:48.41 | Stephmw | wonders if the -100EUS is just a EU plug on the -100UKS version... |
| 14:20.27 | dick_turpin | ibot: slap bilarh |
| 14:20.28 | ibot | ACTION slaps bilarh, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 14:20.35 | morsing | Beer |
| 14:22.06 | z00dax | wethrin: how is the n810 doing ? got andriod on there as yet ? |
| 14:22.22 | z00dax | I am still trying to think up a good reason to try android |
| 14:22.24 | wethrin | Um. I'm hardly using it |
| 14:22.37 | dick_turpin | wethrin: snap |
| 14:22.38 | wethrin | I really should do something with it. Even if it's just set it up to use as a Satnav |
| 14:23.30 | dick_turpin | Mine sits in the cupboard I only take it out to charge up :-( |
| 14:23.41 | wethrin | ebay it! |
| 14:24.42 | dick_turpin | No account and don't trust ebay either |
| 14:25.30 | z00dax | I seem to be using mine all the time, satnav sometimes, media player all the time, even wrote a small search engine on the tube/train rides into and from work |
| 14:25.41 | z00dax | places where getting the laptop out is just way too much hassle |
| 14:25.50 | morsing | http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp?prod=IN-3801 |
| 14:25.51 | z00dax | you can even code, standing up, in the stuffed tube!! |
| 14:26.08 | sabinef72 | hiya |
| 14:26.43 | z00dax | sabinef72: hey. howse it going |
| 14:26.59 | z00dax | btw, i think it was mozrat's bithday yesterday. or maybe day before yesterday |
| 14:27.21 | sabinef72 | mozzie : where is he ? |
| 14:27.26 | z00dax | I dont know |
| 14:27.29 | morsing | sabinef72: He's gone |
| 14:27.32 | sabinef72 | z00dax: fine except a big cold and you ? |
| 14:27.33 | z00dax | he's been offline for a year+ now |
| 14:27.41 | morsing | ~seen mozrat |
| 14:27.43 | ibot | mozrat <i=mozrat@outbound.silenceisdefeat.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #gllug, 364d 21h 31m 4s ago, saying: 'morsing: cheers'. |
| 14:27.47 | z00dax | I have a cold as well, not too bad, but coughing and thats irritating... |
| 14:27.51 | morsing | z00dax: You're wrong!! |
| 14:27.52 | z00dax | sabinef72: how is the child ? |
| 14:28.01 | Nafallo | lol |
| 14:28.04 | z00dax | morsing: ok, so not quite a year + then |
| 14:28.06 | sabinef72 | fine too. She is walking now |
| 14:28.11 | z00dax | really ? |
| 14:28.12 | z00dax | wow |
| 14:28.19 | sabinef72 | 13 months now |
| 14:28.26 | sabinef72 | time is going so fast |
| 14:28.37 | morsing | sabinef72: When's the next one coming? |
| 14:28.45 | z00dax | the question is ofcourse, is she using Linux yet ? |
| 14:29.25 | sabinef72 | morsing: I dunno, remember I need injections and so |
| 14:30.11 | sabinef72 | http://sabinef72.thepink.fr/upload/images/photos_perso/demon/img_2647_500x375.jpg |
| 14:31.18 | morsing | sabinef72: Oh yes, sorry |
| 14:31.25 | Leeds | sabinef72: cute pic :-) |
| 14:31.39 | sabinef72 | you can see that she already likes computer |
| 14:33.08 | Leeds | z00dax: by the way... reading a little scrollback - I got a G1 |
| 14:33.32 | sabinef72 | Do you have snow in England ? |
| 14:34.08 | z00dax | Leeds: ah, nice.. |
| 14:34.30 | z00dax | I've been keeping my eyes open for that, just to see what all the hype is about |
| 14:34.48 | z00dax | sabinef72: not in this part of England, no. But I hear its been white up north. |
| 14:35.03 | sabinef72 | http://sabinef72.thepink.fr/upload/images/photos_perso/demon/img_2635_500x375.jpg |
| 14:35.08 | Leeds | yeah, there's been lots in Leeds |
| 14:35.13 | sabinef72 | my baby is gone... |
| 14:35.34 | sabinef72 | we had a bit of snow this morning |
| 14:39.21 | Leeds | must avoid accidentally squirting tea on keyboard |
| 14:47.41 | wethrin | z00dax: We had a few days of snow up here |
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| 15:10.39 | ChoHag | I have the opportunity to get a box-load of IBM clicky keyboards. Not PS/2 or AT connector but I'm sure adapters can be built. |
| 15:10.42 | ChoHag | Anybody want some? |
| 15:11.26 | ChoHag | I'm going to get a few regardless but orders are accepted. |
| 15:11.40 | wethrin | Which connector, then? |
| 15:11.44 | wethrin | USB? |
| 15:11.54 | ChoHag | Something proprietary. |
| 15:11.59 | wethrin | ew |
| 15:12.10 | ChoHag | Like an RJ with two clips. |
| 15:12.27 | ChoHag | Two rows of F-keys, diamond-shaped arrows. |
| 15:12.32 | ChoHag | I can get a model no. hold on. |
| 15:13.08 | wethrin | It's okay |
| 15:13.16 | wethrin | I'm not bothered about it |
| 15:13.33 | ChoHag | I tell a lie. The connector is an actual RJ45. |
| 15:13.39 | ChoHag | Not seen that on a keyboard before. |
| 15:13.53 | wethrin | Used on some HP kit |
| 15:13.58 | wethrin | And I assume IBM kit too |
| 15:14.43 | ChoHag | I thought HP used the not-RJ45 I described above. |
| 15:14.53 | ChoHag | My (admittedly ancient) HP does, at least. |
| 15:17.15 | ChoHag | Well if no-one says anything between now and the time I get a call saying everything's find (or I get bored) I'll just take a few. |
| 15:19.05 | morsing | Beer |
| 15:19.49 | ChoHag | Yes, morsing. |
| 15:21.30 | ChoHag | Sod this. They've had half an hour to confirm that, yes, more memory hasn't broken anything. |
| 15:21.33 | ChoHag | I'm going home. |
| 15:28.39 | kjs | grrr i know this is a windows question but... have you ever logged a machine onto the domain removed the computer reinstalled the OS readded it with the same name, do i need to delete the computer account in AD before readding it? |
| 15:30.57 | Mohan | kjs: windows has this unique sid's stuff which cant be recreated, but you can try adding it to the domain, if it doesnt work you can delete and try it. |
| 15:31.25 | kjs | Shall i just delete the computer account from AD |
| 15:31.29 | kjs | its SBS2003. |
| 15:31.46 | kjs | it will just readd the computer account ? |
| 15:32.08 | Mohan | just add the client computer to the domain |
| 15:32.23 | Mohan | but you should be doing it from the client machine |
| 15:33.29 | kjs | Mohan: I am doing this |
| 15:33.32 | kjs | but its erroring |
| 15:33.36 | Mohan | i suppose it should work. |
| 15:33.43 | kjs | if i remove the client computer account from AD |
| 15:33.49 | Mohan | whats the error between ? |
| 15:33.50 | kjs | it will just recreate the account? |
| 15:34.01 | Mohan | its should |
| 15:34.17 | kjs | well when i add the computer with the sbs2003 wizard it says available computer names " " |
| 15:34.24 | kjs | in the space there should be the computer name |
| 15:34.28 | kjs | but it doesnt dispolay |
| 15:34.30 | kjs | so no error |
| 15:34.41 | Mohan | but try to add the machine from the client end |
| 15:35.01 | Mohan | mycomputer-> properties-> join domain |
| 15:35.11 | Mohan | and see how it goes |
| 15:36.23 | kjs | Mohan: yu dont add them like that with SBS2003 |
| 15:36.23 | kjs | you need to use this stupid wizard. |
| 15:36.23 | kjs | it does a bunch of things. |
| 15:36.27 | kjs | it wont add like that either for the records |
| 15:36.30 | kjs | record* |
| 15:38.23 | Mohan | okay, i am not sure with sbs |
| 15:39.28 | Mohan | but you can add clients in win2003 ent edition from clients end |
| 15:39.52 | kjs | yeah |
| 15:40.14 | kjs | sbs is a bit different, it will still work that way but it slightly breaks things |
| 15:41.16 | kjs | wonder how long this will take for it to realise there is no computer account. |
| 15:41.49 | Mohan | sbs is the allinone integerated package right with builtin mail server and 50 user accounts |
| 15:46.59 | kjs | yeah |
| 15:47.01 | kjs | its a sack of shit |
| 15:47.07 | kjs | but it works ok for small places |
| 15:51.33 | kjs | fuck this, ill rename the machine |
| 15:51.40 | kjs | fucking windows |
| 15:54.33 | kjs | FUCKING HELL |
| 15:54.38 | kjs | STILL IT FAILS ME |
| 15:55.28 | boudiccas | language Timothy! |
| 15:56.22 | Mohan | kjs: http://techsoeasy.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!AB2725BC5698FCB8!278.entry |
| 15:56.32 | Mohan | may be that link can help you |
| 16:00.05 | *** part/#gllug dick_turpin (n=dick_tur@host217-34-163-30.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 16:04.10 | Discordian | Lol |
| 16:04.15 | Discordian | Hi boudiccas |
| 16:09.19 | kjs | Iv sorted it now |
| 16:09.27 | kjs | hard to recreate the computer account. |
| 16:09.31 | kjs | had* |
| 16:10.01 | boudiccas | hiyas Discordian |
| 16:10.11 | kjs | I need to get away from working with windows, or ill die from stress. |
| 16:12.21 | Discordian | I hate windows did my head in admininng it |
| 16:18.16 | morsing | Beer |
| 16:31.16 | kjs | for sure |
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| 16:52.08 | kjs | USB to serial adapters work ok in linux? |
| 16:58.42 | antiphase | Yes, based on a sample of 2 that I've tried |
| 16:59.57 | kjs | kool |
| 17:00.01 | kjs | antiphase: what make? |
| 17:00.13 | morsing | Beer |
| 17:05.39 | antiphase | [558911.829589] usb 1-4.1.3: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0 |
| 17:05.52 | antiphase | Branded SiteCom. Some cheap piece of shit, but works fine |
| 18:01.06 | *** join/#gllug catalyst (n=catalyst@allegro/user/angelchild) |
| 18:02.06 | morsing | catalyst! |
| 18:08.14 | z00dax | hides in here for a bit |
| 18:09.11 | DiscordianUK | heh tis mad over there |
| 18:09.53 | z00dax | I think people who have only been using linux for a few months / a year - are the most dangerious of them all |
| 18:10.05 | z00dax | specially when they get their hands on someone with lesser experience |
| 18:10.08 | DiscordianUK | yeah |
| 18:10.27 | DiscordianUK | it's a feeding frenzy |
| 18:12.24 | z00dax | anyone with a webcam around ? |
| 18:13.38 | Nafallo | ehrm |
| 18:14.12 | z00dax | if so, can you do a quick test for me |
| 18:14.27 | z00dax | vlc v4l:/dev/video0:size=320x240 --sout "#transcode{vcodec=WMV1,vb=180,scale=1}:duplicate{dst=display, dst=std{access=mmsh,mux=asfh,dst=:12345}}" -v --noaudio |
| 18:14.35 | z00dax | I need to work out if that works |
| 18:15.50 | Nafallo | shrugs. webcam home, and I dont use the two programs mentioned. |
| 18:34.05 | kjs | goes it see if he can find his webcam |
| 18:46.38 | kjs | it would seem this is the worst webcam ever for linux |
| 18:51.38 | z00dax | nice |
| 18:52.05 | z00dax | btw, I found using mp4v via an ogg transport works fine |
| 18:52.16 | z00dax | no more messing about with mms:// - it just works with http:// urls |
| 18:52.34 | z00dax | also, Audio started working too, which I had to disable with the mms transport |
| 18:53.16 | kjs | you have tested it works z00dax ? |
| 18:53.31 | kjs | battles to get his webcam working for the hell of it... |
| 18:56.23 | kjs | having problems with |
| 18:56.25 | kjs | open /dev/video0: Permission denied |
| 18:56.29 | kjs | on fedora10 |
| 18:58.13 | kjs | maybe it's just broken ill chuck it out |
| 19:00.17 | morsing | Beer |
| 19:01.51 | z00dax | kjs: camera worked for me out of the box, this is a philips spc 900nc |
| 19:01.57 | z00dax | uses the pwc driver |
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| 19:02.15 | z00dax | what camera do you have ? might be worth looking up support status |
| 19:02.19 | kjs | z00dax: CPiA thing |
| 19:02.33 | z00dax | I dont know what that is, but then I dont know much about webcams either |
| 19:02.48 | DiscordianUK | good evening |
| 19:05.24 | Nafallo | sounded more like a permission problem to me. |
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| 19:05.33 | Nafallo | ls -l /dev/video0 ; groups |
| 19:05.33 | Nafallo | ? |
| 19:05.34 | kjs | claims it's supported, lsmod even shows the module is loaded yet i get perms denied, I know FA about webcams also, I only dragged it down from the loft to test that thing you pasted... ill put it in the dust bin other wise ill spend hours making it work. |
| 19:05.35 | morsing | Beer |
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| 19:06.08 | z00dax | if its showing up as loaded, then yea - its mostly a perms issue then |
| 19:06.14 | z00dax | so what Nafallo said. |
| 19:06.14 | z00dax | dinner! |
| 19:06.14 | Nafallo | ey! I didn't talk about food damnit ;-) |
| 19:06.14 | Nafallo | made me hongry now... |
| 19:07.15 | kjs | Im not sure the perms checked out, had problems with the cam in the past plus its so old. |
| 19:07.15 | Nafallo | 18:56 < kjs> open /dev/video0: Permission denied |
| 19:07.15 | Nafallo | isn't that clear enough about the reason? :-) |
| 19:07.28 | kjs | Nafallo: yes i fixed that problem |
| 19:07.28 | Nafallo | ls -l /dev/video0 ; groups <-- that will show :-) |
| 19:07.29 | Nafallo | ah |
| 19:07.42 | kjs | then I got unsported pallete |
| 19:07.42 | kjs | unsupported. |
| 19:07.43 | Nafallo | \o/ |
| 19:07.59 | kjs | No supported palette found, please report your device to the author |
| 19:08.27 | Nafallo | that was a pretty straight forward message as well though :-P |
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| 19:13.51 | kjs | yeah well, it's in the bin now :) |
| 19:14.07 | morsing | lol :) |
| 19:14.39 | boudiccas | kjs; maybe you could sell it on ebay? |
| 19:15.17 | kjs | it probablt does about fps |
| 19:15.19 | kjs | 1 fps |
| 19:16.39 | kjs | it was left at my house when XP was released. |
| 19:16.50 | kjs | to give you some idea of the age of the pos. |
| 19:17.03 | boudiccas | but xp has been put back into its cage now |
| 19:17.15 | kjs | downloads vmware 2 |
| 19:17.26 | kjs | anyone after a 1U server? |
| 19:17.34 | kjs | PowerEdge SC1425 |
| 19:20.36 | AndyMillar | how much power does it use? |
| 19:22.11 | kjs | uhm i can tell you tomorrow, iirc less than 0.5 amps |
| 19:23.04 | AndyMillar | lshw ? |
| 19:23.08 | AndyMillar | +cost? |
| 19:23.17 | kjs | lshw ? |
| 19:23.27 | DiscordianUK | list hardware |
| 19:23.41 | kjs | ohhh lshw i get it. |
| 19:23.43 | AndyMillar | (but it's an app that lists *everything*) |
| 19:24.00 | AndyMillar | http://linux.die.net/man/1/lshw |
| 19:24.31 | kjs | yum install lshw |
| 19:24.47 | hali | ah, the memories, my previous company built it's success on 1425's ... decent box for the price back then |
| 19:24.56 | AndyMillar | i'll stick with cpu/ram/disks :) |
| 19:25.26 | kjs | i wil get spec tomorrow AndyMillar |
| 19:25.30 | kjs | hali: agreed |
| 19:25.47 | AndyMillar | how much (roughly) do you want for it? :) |
| 19:26.35 | kjs | that will depend how much ram is in it, can I let you know tomorrow? |
| 19:26.43 | AndyMillar | sure :) |
| 19:27.05 | morsing | Beer |
| 19:27.30 | hali | can't think of a config worth more than 200 or 250 max |
| 19:28.02 | kjs | lshw is elite |
| 19:28.32 | kjs | those things can take a'lot of ram iirc hali |
| 19:29.20 | hali | 16gb |
| 19:29.38 | kjs | iirc it has 2X 250G WD drives |
| 19:29.47 | hali | worth 10 each :) |
| 19:30.57 | kjs | finds a rope to hang hali with... |
| 19:31.03 | AndyMillar | heh |
| 19:31.26 | hali | did i mention the power hungry cpus :P |
| 19:31.32 | hali | netburst |
| 19:31.43 | hali | you are stealing it from work so any profitis profit :) |
| 19:32.01 | kjs | screws on a silencer |
| 19:32.01 | AndyMillar | hali: all i care about is idle power usage ;) |
| 19:32.24 | hali | in that case you can always yank out the second cpu if it's got one to save 40watts |
| 19:32.38 | kjs | hali: yeah shame it doesnt work like that when the company is yours. |
| 19:32.50 | kjs | 1 cpu iirc. |
| 19:35.04 | AndyMillar | 1/2/4/8 cores? :) |
| 19:35.09 | kjs | I wonder how i can get rid of it from a tax prospective on things like this. |
| 19:35.24 | AndyMillar | $company or $personal? |
| 19:35.35 | kjs | just say i scrapped it? person pays me cash? |
| 19:35.45 | hali | most likely single |
| 19:37.24 | DiscordianUK | cash seems like the best plan |
| 19:37.24 | kjs | AndyMillar: not sure, ill get a hardware spec for you tomorrow |
| 19:37.25 | AndyMillar | i'm with the cash ides |
| 19:37.25 | AndyMillar | idea* |
| 19:37.25 | kjs | cash then right it off as KIA |
| 19:37.25 | AndyMillar | yeah - sent for distruction |
| 19:37.25 | boudiccas | KIA? killed in action? |
| 19:37.26 | kjs | correct |
| 19:57.35 | hali | actually i think it companies can write off hardware as "research" right away |
| 19:57.40 | hali | there is some exception like that |
| 19:57.41 | morsing | Beer |
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| 20:09.39 | morsing | j0nr! |
| 20:13.10 | j0nr | hello! |
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| 20:16.42 | morsing | highbury! |
| 20:17.18 | highbury | hi Morsing! |
| 21:01.51 | j0nr | any ideas why new user accounts don't work? i.e. i log in and things stop working to the point where mouse clicks do nothing, keyboard inputs mostly don't work...still manage to ctrl alt backspace out...but it starts off ok....just deteriorates after a few mins. My own main account is fine... just newly created user accounts have this problem |
| 21:03.17 | DiscordianUK | on what? |
| 21:03.28 | j0nr | ubuntu |
| 21:03.45 | DiscordianUK | no idea |
| 21:04.01 | j0nr | it doesn't lock up, just input seems to stop working |
| 21:04.20 | j0nr | What do you use DiscordianUK |
| 21:04.21 | j0nr | ? |
| 21:04.51 | DiscordianUK | fedora for home, centos for servers, opensolaris etc |
| 21:06.03 | DiscordianUK | gui stuff tends to be fairly distro specific |
| 21:06.59 | j0nr | i feel inclined to stay with ubuntu as it is the only one i have used... |
| 21:07.09 | j0nr | has a lot of support |
| 21:07.14 | j0nr | for people like me :) |
| 21:07.36 | j0nr | the day i decided to try linux, i very nearly went for suse |
| 21:07.53 | ChoHag | How fortunate that you didn't. |
| 21:07.58 | j0nr | yeah? |
| 21:07.59 | DiscordianUK | so what's different about the new users as opposed to the old? |
| 21:08.15 | j0nr | nothing apart from that behaviour |
| 21:08.39 | j0nr | i add a user, even give them same priviledges as me... |
| 21:08.59 | j0nr | log in... all seems fine for a few mins, then it just breaks |
| 21:08.59 | ChoHag | j0nr: Cannot access the video card, therefore no dri. |
| 21:09.17 | DiscordianUK | when you say same as you? |
| 21:09.27 | DiscordianUK | what do you mean? |
| 21:09.33 | j0nr | just another administrative account |
| 21:09.54 | DiscordianUK | err |
| 21:09.59 | DiscordianUK | what? |
| 21:10.17 | j0nr | as opposed to a user who couldnt perform sudo commands |
| 21:10.37 | DiscordianUK | so they're in /etc/sudoers? |
| 21:10.49 | j0nr | er not any more...deleted them... |
| 21:10.53 | j0nr | well i think i did |
| 21:10.59 | j0nr | i did from the gui, |
| 21:11.32 | j0nr | but if i also try a deluser it tells me they are still logged in! |
| 21:11.56 | DiscordianUK | are they? |
| 21:12.04 | j0nr | no |
| 21:12.51 | j0nr | i wish i had discovered linus a lot longer ago |
| 21:12.54 | j0nr | linux! |
| 21:13.10 | j0nr | hmmm ill be back |
| 21:13.28 | DiscordianUK | have you asked for help on #ubuntu |
| 21:13.34 | DiscordianUK | oh well |
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| 21:16.46 | j0nr | hullo |
| 21:16.46 | DiscordianUK | have you asked for help on #ubuntu |
| 21:16.46 | j0nr | yeah... |
| 21:17.02 | DiscordianUK | and ? |
| 21:17.43 | j0nr | i knew i should have stuck with the working version... i am always a bit hesitant to upgrade as soon as a distro upgrade becomes available |
| 21:17.43 | ChoHag | I reckon your new user just doesn't have the rights to run compiz. |
| 21:17.43 | ChoHag | Make sure it's in the video group and that you're not already logged in. |
| 21:18.04 | j0nr | ok just rebooted... there are no extra user accounts |
| 21:19.04 | j0nr | hmm i just tried 'switch user' and i get "The X server failed. Perhaps it is not configured well." |
| 21:19.14 | j0nr | :| |
| 21:20.22 | DiscordianUK | so what does id say about your account and the other one? |
| 21:21.33 | kjs | i see packagekit is still screwed up fedora |
| 21:21.37 | morsing | j0nr! |
| 21:22.04 | DiscordianUK | in f10? |
| 21:22.09 | kjs | yeah |
| 21:22.44 | DiscordianUK | i'm holding off on f10 |
| 21:22.56 | j0nr | DiscordianUK: no idea... dont worry, i give up for now |
| 21:23.03 | kjs | why |
| 21:23.55 | kjs | its just my laptop, i use it for vmware, tbird ff and irc. |
| 21:23.55 | DiscordianUK | why not |
| 21:23.55 | DiscordianUK | f9 works fine |
| 21:24.02 | kjs | true |
| 21:24.13 | kjs | f10 has been fine apart from this break |
| 21:24.39 | kjs | iv noticed no real reason to upgrade so far though |
| 21:24.45 | DiscordianUK | and i have around 15 apps that aren't free to reinstall |
| 21:24.55 | DiscordianUK | when i do |
| 21:25.14 | kjs | arnt free to reinstall ? |
| 21:25.42 | DiscordianUK | non-open source |
| 21:25.54 | kjs | oh? |
| 21:25.57 | DiscordianUK | like oracleXE |
| 21:26.19 | kjs | oh you mean you will have to reinstal them manualy? |
| 21:26.32 | kjs | I get you now. |
| 21:27.02 | DiscordianUK | yeah |
| 21:27.26 | DiscordianUK | and in some cases have to rebuild em |
| 21:27.38 | kjs | i really should stop using my external hard drive as a tea coaster |
| 21:29.30 | kjs | grrr this energy saving light bulb has started making a noise the sort of noise a fucked capacitor makes |
| 21:33.11 | morsing | Beer |
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| 21:55.13 | morsing | gw280! |
| 21:55.15 | gw280 | throws a bomb at catalyst |
| 21:55.32 | catalyst | catches it and has a blast |
| 21:55.44 | gw280 | wonders whether catalyst is dead yet, and hopes the answer is yes |
| 21:55.53 | catalyst | newp |
| 21:55.58 | gw280 | damn. |
| 21:56.07 | morsing | Beer |
| 21:56.35 | gw280 | beats catalyst with a blunt hammer |
| 21:58.30 | gw280 | I'm bored |
| 21:58.32 | gw280 | why do I always beat catalyst |
| 21:58.42 | Nafallo | maybe you hate cisco |
| 21:58.52 | gw280 | I don't even remember who catalyst is! :P |
| 21:59.07 | Nafallo | a switch I'd guess :-P |
| 21:59.14 | gw280 | annnnnnnnnyway |
| 21:59.25 | gw280 | anyone want to help me take over the world? |
| 21:59.38 | Nafallo | nope. I'm not American. |
| 21:59.54 | gw280 | neither am I |
| 21:59.56 | gw280 | I'm just a lunatic |
| 22:01.21 | catalyst | you... don't remember? |
| 22:01.23 | catalyst | seriously? |
| 22:04.20 | gw280 | catalyst: all I remember is that you're called catalyst and you were a student at soton (?) |
| 22:05.23 | catalyst | that's something I suppose |
| 22:05.44 | gw280 | oh, and you were called angelchild |
| 22:06.18 | gw280 | that's approximately all I remember |
| 22:06.22 | gw280 | or perhaps that's all I knew in the first place |
| 22:06.29 | gw280 | beats catalyst with a different hammer |
| 22:06.42 | catalyst | maybe so |
| 22:06.52 | gw280 | moooooo |
| 22:06.59 | catalyst | cow |
| 22:07.07 | gw280 | damn right |
| 22:07.09 | gw280 | cows are AMAZING |
| 22:07.17 | gw280 | and anyone who says they aren't are silly. like catalyst. |
| 22:07.42 | catalyst | wears a silly hat |
| 22:07.57 | gw280 | catalyst: photos or it never happened |
| 22:08.11 | gw280 | http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v371/154/55/36918580/n36918580_38451550_6127.jpg |
| 22:08.15 | gw280 | there's me wearing a silly hat |
| 22:10.11 | gw280 | naps on catalyst |
| 22:12.13 | gw280 | wheee |
| 22:12.22 | gw280 | I think I may actually be insane |
| 22:12.42 | morsing | gw280: We knew all along... |
| 22:26.29 | kjs | i shattered |
| 22:26.34 | kjs | i'm |
| 22:26.56 | kjs | its only 22:26 |
| 22:27.22 | kjs | getting up at 7am every day is killing me |
| 22:28.04 | morsing | ermm... |
| 22:29.30 | gw280 | catalyst: so do you know what happened to mozrat? |
| 22:30.16 | morsing | gw280: He got a job |
| 22:31.13 | Nafallo | haha |
| 22:31.45 | gw280 | Nafallo: ? |
| 22:32.22 | Nafallo | a job that makes you disappear from the known universe cant be good :-P |
| 22:32.48 | gw280 | well, yes |
| 22:32.52 | gw280 | what's happened to him?? |
| 22:38.41 | hali | the two main job sites in the uk are jobsearch.co.uk and monster.co.uk right? |
| 22:38.52 | hali | friend of mine from the US is recruiting for a unix admin/dba |
| 22:39.03 | morsing | planetrecruit, totaljobs, jobsite, all good |
| 22:39.10 | morsing | hali: Barbara? |
| 22:39.19 | hali | barbara? |
| 22:39.29 | morsing | hali: She just contacted me |
| 22:39.35 | hali | nope |
| 22:39.45 | morsing | From NY, looking for someone at their London office |
| 22:40.17 | kjs | bcs has a recruitment site also |
| 22:41.06 | kjs | if for example i wanted to leave this country and work in the states for a bit, is that possible? |
| 22:42.13 | gw280 | lalala |
| 22:50.55 | hali | morsing: from linkedin? |
| 22:51.04 | hali | morsing: i just got that one too now :) |
| 22:51.30 | morsing | hali: Yes |
| 22:51.32 | morsing | :) |
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