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09:10.57 | secretlondon | morning |
09:11.22 | secretlondon | off to see a recruitment pimp to whore myself |
09:11.29 | secretlondon | gizza job! |
09:12.08 | secretlondon | etorix: it built okay in pbuilder overnight. I'll give you the logs as it complained about some packaging |
09:13.14 | etorix | some lintians |
09:13.27 | etorix | and a gazillion copyrights |
09:14.36 | secretlondon | something to do with docs |
09:14.50 | etorix | manpages |
09:15.02 | etorix | manpages are fine |
09:15.30 | secretlondon | cd: 17: can't cd to debian/cinepaint/usr/share/doc/cinepaint |
09:15.30 | secretlondon | /bin/zdiff: line 68: /tmp/buildd/cinepaint-0.22/debian/cinepaint/usr/share/doc/cinepaint/./README: No such file or directory |
09:15.52 | secretlondon | dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: debian/libcinepaint0/usr/lib/libcinepaint_fl_i18n.so.0.0.22 shouldn't be linked with libgcc_s.so.1 (it uses none of its symbols). |
09:17.48 | secretlondon | loads of shlibs unhappiness |
09:17.52 | secretlondon | too much to paste |
09:17.56 | etorix | the rpath one is possibly seriouser |
09:18.08 | etorix | im not seeing shlibs errors |
09:18.38 | etorix | <PROTECTED> |
09:19.00 | etorix | http://wiki.debian.org/RpathIssue |
09:19.09 | secretlondon | i'll email you them - however i've lost a lot of the logs cos it scrolled |
09:27.19 | etorix | u got licensecheck? |
09:27.53 | etorix | thats the fun one |
09:28.20 | etorix | licensecheck -r --copyright |
09:31.27 | etorix | $ licensecheck -r --copyright /home/etorix/cinepaint/cinepaint-0.22-1/cinepaint-0.22-1 > lic.txt |
09:31.43 | etorix | 2760 lines |
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11:26.35 | secretlondon | bah they want me to get a reference from wikipedia ha ha ha |
11:31.44 | etorix | gawd this bit is hair-tearing |
11:43.04 | secretlondon | got someone to give me a wikipedia reference wtf |
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12:57.07 | dick_turpin | Bye |
12:57.13 | dick_turpin | Welcome back :-) |
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13:48.50 | Ch0Hag | Mmm I do like itwhen X dies. |
13:49.10 | Ch0Hag | This time I made the fatal mistake of clicking on the 'File' menu in open office. |
13:49.18 | Ch0Hag | I should have known better really. |
13:49.55 | secretlondon | calendar`can kill gnome panel on the current alpha |
13:52.47 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: You awake yet? |
13:56.43 | antiphase | Is it usually difficult to move around? |
13:56.58 | secretlondon | irssi on wheels |
13:57.17 | dick_turpin | USB :-P |
14:04.14 | secretlondon | 129 updates.. |
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14:26.00 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, yes, just putting the slap on before i go out! whats on your mind? |
14:29.01 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Was just gonna tell you about irssi portable but apparently its not that interesting |
14:29.25 | boudiccas | i've used 'links' with very good effect |
14:29.51 | boudiccas | i've gone off irssi because i wasnt able to control my eggdrop bot when using it |
14:30.23 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Ooh I'm sure I read they are evil somewhere |
14:30.34 | boudiccas | but why not blog your portable version of irssi, maybe someone who reads your blog will find it useful |
14:31.12 | boudiccas | eggdrop bots have an undeserved bad reaction, but i've been running it now for over 7 years with no problems |
14:31.16 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: May do later, my site is picked up by a fare few 'Planets' |
14:31.57 | boudiccas | it'll all help drive people to your blog if they can learn something useful to them |
14:32.13 | boudiccas | useful as well as interesting |
14:32.25 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Yeah then I can start charging them :-D |
14:32.31 | boudiccas | plus that way i can read it later :) |
14:33.10 | boudiccas | you'd have to get several hundred other blogs syndicated to yours to make any money you made out of your blog worthwhile :) |
14:33.54 | boudiccas | i'm not convicned that you could charge Joe Puiblic :) and i know you were only joking :) |
14:34.00 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I'm getting a bit sick of blogs just lately, the shit people post is amazing |
14:34.22 | boudiccas | some people post good shit, others crap shit, some just shit shit |
14:34.45 | boudiccas | you pick and choose what you read and whose you believe |
14:36.04 | boudiccas | me i post any old shit, when i can get on. still got to recover my old home partition using ddrecover |
14:36.14 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I have most of the 'Planets' in my reader so I don't get much choice |
14:36.55 | boudiccas | and thats one reason why i've got to go into town, to pick up my new 250gig ide drive for £59 to recover a drive to |
14:37.18 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: But when people post just two words to their blog so that I suppose they keep their ratings up well I dispair |
14:37.19 | boudiccas | i use akregator as my reader and i pick and choose what nad whose i put in |
14:37.35 | boudiccas | so just ignore theirs and move on |
14:37.40 | boudiccas | *and |
14:39.32 | boudiccas | you can choose to ignore one feed, or one planet or one post within that planet ... its all your choice |
14:40.03 | secretlondon | boudiccas: where are you getting the drive from? |
14:40.08 | boudiccas | i tend to ignore some people because they're posts are worthless and dont teach or tell me anything |
14:40.10 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Cant I just nip round and shoot them then? |
14:40.18 | boudiccas | my local computer shop |
14:40.37 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, if you want to :) |
14:40.39 | secretlondon | My blog does get comments either from people I know (social networking style) or from google |
14:40.42 | secretlondon | I am on a plnet |
14:40.45 | secretlondon | planet I admit |
14:41.20 | dick_turpin | I turned my comments section off. You can get enough abuse here :-D |
14:41.31 | boudiccas | i used to be on the gllug planet until they discovered that it couldnt cope with my blog postings |
14:41.53 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Yeah them pictures....... |
14:41.57 | boudiccas | i use nanoblogger, a cli blogger which is nice and simple and easy to use |
14:42.04 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, :)))) |
14:42.11 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: :-) |
14:43.30 | boudiccas | secretlondon, don't add yourself! add your blog!!! :)))) |
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14:43.44 | dick_turpin | Did you see in the paper Facebook accounts are staring to be used in divorce cases |
14:43.46 | secretlondon | ;) |
14:44.01 | dick_turpin | starting |
14:44.13 | popey | i missed your feed when you removed it from ubuntu-uk secretlondon |
14:44.15 | ElPenguin | are there really no limits to what it can do? ;) |
14:44.17 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, i dont read a paper cos i cant read! i have to rely on the pictures |
14:44.29 | secretlondon | popey: it's still on ubuntu women |
14:44.36 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Rotfl |
14:44.40 | popey | didn't know there was an ubuntu-women planet |
14:44.52 | boudiccas | i havent bought a paper for years, i tend to read them online |
14:45.10 | ElPenguin | secretlondon: nice to meet you the other day, btw |
14:45.21 | boudiccas | the grundian and the scotsman are my favourites |
14:45.37 | secretlondon | ElPenguin: when was that? diva's drunkne birthday thing? |
14:45.43 | ElPenguin | yes |
14:45.59 | secretlondon | ah - that may have been why I couldn't remember.. |
14:46.00 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Gaurdian? |
14:46.03 | ElPenguin | haha |
14:46.06 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, yes |
14:46.31 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: I'm a Telegraph man |
14:46.45 | boudiccas | i believe they have a feed too |
14:47.06 | secretlondon | the guardian does, the independent doesn't |
14:47.20 | boudiccas | certainly they have an online prescence because i can remember reading an article from it online |
14:47.39 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Theres a breakdown out there of paper readers Telegraph ones are people who still think we have an Empire apparently |
14:47.41 | secretlondon | there has been a "electronic torygraph" for years |
14:48.16 | boudiccas | dick_turpin, what!!! you mean we haven't??? /me shakes head in despair!!! |
14:48.19 | secretlondon | independent readers are scared of mobile phones (cos they have nothing else to worry about) |
14:48.28 | boudiccas | secretlondon, :) |
14:48.29 | dick_turpin | Nope the Sun is the main Tory newspaper |
14:49.29 | boudiccas | but! the Sun isn't a newspaper! its just a rag writen byt he gutter press |
14:49.36 | boudiccas | *by the |
14:50.03 | boudiccas | only suitable for wrapping fish and chips in |
14:50.08 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: True I've not read it for, god, 20 years? |
14:50.20 | boudiccas | you havent missed much dick_turpin |
14:50.42 | boudiccas | right, i have to go. chat later |
14:51.06 | dick_turpin | boudiccas: Bye bye baby baby goodbye (Bay city rollers) |
14:51.25 | boudiccas | you're showing your age there dick_turpin :))))) byeee |
14:51.32 | dick_turpin | :-) |
14:52.12 | secretlondon | bye boudiccas |
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14:53.50 | LeedsHK | do not like when pidgin hangs up |
14:56.31 | sabinef72 | hi there |
14:56.40 | sabinef72 | Hi LeedsHK ! How's life in China ? |
14:57.42 | LeedsHK | sabinef72: cold! |
14:58.32 | tripitaka | linux install question: I've got a new PC here with two disks, and it's been a long time since I installed dual boot. What's the best approach? (XP and fedora) |
14:58.48 | hali | install XP first, then fedora |
14:58.53 | secretlondon | yep |
14:58.59 | tripitaka | install grub to MBR? |
14:59.03 | hali | yes |
14:59.09 | tripitaka | swish, cheers |
14:59.58 | LeedsHK | sabinef72: how about France? |
15:02.18 | sabinef72 | rain today |
15:02.33 | sabinef72 | and not so cold |
15:02.39 | sabinef72 | around 10°C |
15:03.52 | LeedsHK | here is 13C, at 11pm, and we have the official government 'cold weather' warning :-D |
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15:08.30 | secretlondon | bbl |
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17:26.17 | secretlondon | hi |
17:27.40 | hali | hai |
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17:57.43 | Ch0Hag | "Success is the happy feeling you get between the time you do something and the time you tell a woman what you did." |
17:57.58 | Ch0Hag | -- Dilbert |
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18:40.16 | formi | allo! |
18:40.59 | secretlondon | 'lo |
18:41.23 | formi | quite a lot of nicks sleeping here |
18:41.49 | Discordian | zzz |
18:42.36 | formi | i logged in here searching for somebody |
18:42.44 | formi | can't remenber his name now |
18:42.44 | wethrin | hi formi |
18:42.57 | formi | at least somebody i know |
18:43.33 | formi | i've just remenbered, i was after Jason |
18:44.14 | formi | wethrin: what is going on with the gllug meetings? |
18:45.56 | secretlondon | there is one on the 12th march |
18:46.02 | wethrin | formi: There's one on the 12th and 15th of March |
18:46.29 | formi | ill be out of the country those days |
18:47.37 | formi | there's no mention on the gllug site |
18:48.21 | wethrin | No, no-one's updated it |
18:48.26 | wethrin | I don't have a password to do so |
18:49.33 | formi | well i need to leave the office |
18:49.42 | formi | the cleaners are looking at me |
18:50.03 | formi | ill see you later |
18:50.11 | secretlondon | who has the password? |
18:50.38 | wethrin | z00dax and agk |
18:51.30 | wethrin | I entirely failed to get it off agk on Saturday |
18:51.34 | wethrin | Or Sunday |
19:03.48 | secretlondon | etorix: my Ubuntu build of cinepaint doesn't do the weird scrollbar stuff yours did :) |
19:04.12 | secretlondon | etorix: it was obviously just not building on a *buntu |
19:04.19 | etorix | sure |
19:04.52 | etorix | im nearly finished the debian/copyright |
19:04.56 | secretlondon | woo |
19:05.06 | etorix | gah |
19:05.21 | etorix | im sure i missed a bunch |
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19:05.50 | secretlondon | still doesn't do the color management stuff. assumed image profile all [none] and can't be altered# |
19:06.03 | z00dax_train | Woot! |
19:06.10 | secretlondon | hi Z00dax |
19:06.20 | z00dax_train | Hey, wuzup ? |
19:06.35 | secretlondon | Z00dax: wethrin needs to extract the website password from you so he can update it |
19:07.09 | z00dax_train | Ooh ok, that can be arranged |
19:07.47 | z00dax_train | Although I thought he had some info.. |
19:08.04 | z00dax_train | If not, who is the sekret ghost who updated it last time |
19:08.25 | wethrin | z00dax_train: If you're going to send me a password, my GPG keyID is 0x9422CCBC |
19:08.26 | secretlondon | dunno - he says only you and agk have the password |
19:08.28 | wethrin | It's on the key servers |
19:08.35 | wethrin | There may be other people who have it |
19:08.55 | z00dax_train | Awkay |
19:09.29 | z00dax_train | There are sooooooo many people on the platform!! Get out of my way |
19:11.55 | z00dax_train | Phew |
19:12.01 | z00dax_train | Got onto the train |
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19:29.43 | Discordian | re |
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20:25.12 | mb^2 | good evening |
20:25.27 | mb^2 | recovered from the hangovers yet? |
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20:38.29 | resuDaed | evening |
20:38.37 | Discordian | evening |
20:42.57 | wethrin | hey resuDaed |
20:43.14 | secretlondon | evening |
20:43.50 | Discordian | lo |
20:44.58 | resuDaed | wethrin : hows life |
20:45.18 | wethrin | It's going okay. Got job, need to write a th*s*s still |
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20:50.13 | resuDaed | wethrin : do you know how to change the order of scsi adapters? |
20:50.46 | etorix | the black art of scsi |
20:51.49 | resuDaed | yeah, the adapter that controls the external devices is being discovered first, so when I reboot, sda will become sde |
20:53.12 | resuDaed | and as the machine is powered up only at certain times by the bios, I won't always be there to control the order the disks come up |
20:53.53 | Discordian | Alas |
20:54.11 | Discordian | that's one of the stupider bits of linux |
20:54.36 | Discordian | made worse now that libata treats IDE disks as scsi too |
20:54.45 | resuDaed | mmm, and all I want is a backup server while watching power consumption |
20:55.06 | Discordian | The solaris way c0t0d0s0 is saner |
20:55.41 | Discordian | controller number, target number, disk number, slice number |
20:56.19 | Discordian | however you can access stuff under /proc |
20:56.33 | Discordian | qnd use that in /etc/fstab |
20:56.33 | Discordian | and |
20:56.42 | Discordian | and that's invarient |
20:56.43 | resuDaed | I have found a method for controlling the order with devfs, but that's obselete |
20:57.13 | wethrin | You have two SCSI adapters? |
20:57.22 | wethrin | Change the order of module loading? |
20:57.36 | Discordian | equally you could use disk labels |
20:57.59 | resuDaed | wethrin : wouldn't they be hardwired in to the kernel? |
20:58.48 | resuDaed | Disk labels would be a possiblility |
20:59.15 | wethrin | not necessarily |
20:59.42 | Discordian | or UUIDS |
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21:14.27 | resuDaed | playing with the UUID idea, but my swap partition on sda doesn't have a UUID link |
21:15.07 | Discordian | well swap won't I thinjk |
21:15.18 | Discordian | as it's not a file system |
21:16.09 | resuDaed | I know, but it still needs mounting and I have no idea where it will be (sda4 or sde4), and although I could put both in the fstab, it's a bit ugly |
21:17.26 | resuDaed | having said that, it's only smallish, I could always put it on the / fs |
21:18.56 | Discordian | as a swapfile? |
21:19.23 | resuDaed | Discordian : yes |
21:19.34 | resuDaed | only need ~512MB |
21:19.42 | Discordian | It should work |
21:20.09 | Discordian | there's an overhead mediating swap via disk I/O |
21:21.23 | resuDaed | shouldn't be a problem, swap isn't really needed on the box anyway |
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22:31.30 | Discordian | wb boudiccas |
22:31.56 | secretlondon | wb |
22:32.52 | Discordian | Ahhh SDL is interesting stuff |
22:33.01 | secretlondon | sdl = bling |
22:33.04 | secretlondon | nice stuff |
22:33.11 | Discordian | There's an X display thingy runs in SDL |
22:33.17 | Discordian | athene |
22:34.57 | etorix | can be flaky, sdl |
22:35.24 | Discordian | sure |
22:35.51 | Nafallo | hmm. anyone played with IOS, IPv6 and RA? |
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22:56.55 | Discordian | Re |
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23:33.45 | secretlondon | night |
23:34.13 | Nafallo | apparently not ;-) |
23:37.21 | secretlondon | zzz |
23:37.34 | Discordian | zzz |
23:37.42 | Discordian | indeed |
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23:49.55 | Discordian | Bleagh |