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07:14.34 | morsing | 'morning |
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07:27.15 | mozrat | morsing! |
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07:38.31 | mozrat | Morning Mart |
07:39.02 | SlayerXP | lo |
07:40.26 | mozrat | SlayerXP: is this article to do with your nephew? http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5376676.stm |
07:40.53 | SlayerXP | sec |
07:41.43 | SlayerXP | it looks remarkably similar |
07:42.07 | SlayerXP | I've not seen andrew yet, but I can ask him for his version of events when I do |
07:42.37 | mozrat | *nod* |
07:43.23 | SlayerXP | get the car on the 7th |
07:43.42 | SlayerXP | i'll be picking it up, and then driving directly to wherever he is |
07:45.19 | sabinef72 | morning |
07:45.45 | morsing | sabinef72! |
07:45.48 | morsing | mozrat! |
07:45.51 | morsing | SlayerXP! |
07:45.56 | mozrat | morning sabinef72 |
07:46.20 | sabinef72 | ... and SlayerXP |
07:46.39 | SlayerXP | no tongues! |
07:46.53 | sabinef72 | ... on their CHEEKS |
07:50.25 | mozrat | ooherr |
07:51.29 | SlayerXP | sabinef72: which ones? :) |
07:54.14 | sabinef72 | SlayerXP: both in france to say hello I give one kiss on each cheek |
07:54.45 | SlayerXP | that always confuses me |
07:54.55 | SlayerXP | some people go for 2, 3 or even 4 |
07:56.10 | sabinef72 | yes depends of the personn |
07:56.33 | sabinef72 | for me it's two, first on your left one, then the right |
07:56.43 | sabinef72 | but sometimes if I'm in a hurry, I'll just do one |
07:58.05 | mozrat | And if you don't like the person? |
07:58.51 | sabinef72 | ahhh if I don't like the personn... in this case, it's not my friend... so no kiss |
07:59.03 | SlayerXP | i'm mostly used to it now |
07:59.04 | sabinef72 | just "hello" |
07:59.07 | sabinef72 | and perhaps nothing |
07:59.36 | SlayerXP | i recall the icy stares from Lynda the first time i misused "salut!" as a greeting |
08:00.23 | sabinef72 | :-) |
08:01.44 | mozrat | heh |
08:01.50 | z0d | Good day. |
08:04.13 | sabinef72 | arg the come back of Z0something who makes me upset |
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08:10.56 | mozrat | Morning huw-l |
08:13.59 | Leeds | sabinef72: slap me, please |
08:14.19 | sabinef72 | in this case..... |
08:14.36 | sabinef72 | can you tell me why now ? |
08:14.52 | Leeds | thank you - that should remind me to *post your bloody card today* |
08:15.25 | Leeds | also, morning all :-) |
08:16.17 | sabinef72 | Leeds: lol |
08:17.11 | Leeds | and again - happy new year... |
08:18.05 | sabinef72 | you should write me a line for happy new year and my birthday on it ! |
08:18.18 | Leeds | ah, when is your birthday? |
08:18.32 | sabinef72 | not yet |
08:18.49 | sabinef72 | Leeds: do you receive my postcard ? |
08:19.07 | sabinef72 | all my friends in france receive it but I dunno for england |
08:19.18 | Leeds | uh, don't think so... when/where did you send it? |
08:20.16 | sabinef72 | when ? .... wenesday september 13 th |
08:20.23 | sabinef72 | where ? ... in buenos aires |
08:21.07 | Leeds | if it came after Thursday last week, I have been in Leeds at my parents' house for new year, so I wouldn't have seen it |
08:21.41 | sabinef72 | I sent it at the address you gave me |
08:22.27 | Leeds | probably my London address then - I'll be there tomorrow, I think |
08:22.51 | sabinef72 | yes it was in UK |
08:24.20 | Leeds | right, but I could have given you my parents' address, as I gave it to wethrin... but I don't think I did |
08:26.52 | sabinef72 | let me check |
08:27.27 | sabinef72 | wheatley close |
08:28.24 | Leeds | yeah, London - I'll be there tomorrow |
08:29.37 | sabinef72 | ok |
08:29.43 | sabinef72 | are you still in Spain ? |
08:30.50 | Leeds | oh, no - I'm in Leeds |
08:31.23 | sabinef72 | Leeds ? |
08:32.17 | Leeds | yes? |
08:33.25 | sabinef72 | hmmm |
08:33.33 | sabinef72 | is Leeds is near London ? |
08:33.43 | cpufreak | Leeds: new year? huh? its september |
08:33.50 | cpufreak | sabinef72: 220 milees |
08:33.52 | cpufreak | or so |
08:34.15 | sabinef72 | stupid england with miles..... |
08:34.39 | Leeds | cpufreak: yes, new year - get out of your simplistic Christian/pagan calendar :-) |
08:34.54 | cpufreak | ~350km |
08:35.10 | cpufreak | Leeds: doesn't fit with chinese enew yearr |
08:35.10 | cpufreak | and please don't |
08:35.21 | cpufreak | call me either pagan or chrisian ever again |
08:35.43 | cpufreak | meh |
08:35.54 | Leeds | didn't say you were pagan or christian - I said you were talking about the Christian/pagan calendar |
08:35.55 | sabinef72 | ahhhh it's far from London ! |
08:35.56 | cpufreak | sstupid phone, cant typ this mornng |
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08:36.19 | cpufreak | so what type of new year is it |
08:36.27 | Leeds | Jewish |
08:36.37 | Cope | Morning chims |
08:36.44 | Cope | s/im/um/ |
08:36.55 | cpufreak | oh, that'll explain why my ister and her fiance were back in the uk then |
08:37.02 | Cope | morsing!! |
08:37.07 | cpufreak | *sister |
08:37.11 | jcml__ | Shanah tovah, all. For Saturday. |
08:37.13 | Leeds | morning Cope |
08:37.19 | Leeds | thanks jcml__ :-) |
08:37.39 | jcml__ | :) |
08:37.42 | Cope | byker grove, Leeds |
08:37.57 | sabinef72 | coucou Cope |
08:38.04 | Cope | woo sabinef72! |
08:38.09 | cpufreak | jcml: is ant still in charge |
08:38.14 | cpufreak | or is pies back |
08:38.27 | jcml__ | I don't know /what/ you mean. |
08:38.42 | jcml__ | Lord'n'master is back from holeeeday, tho .. |
08:38.44 | cpufreak | at your jo |
08:38.47 | jcml__ | :) |
08:38.47 | cpufreak | b |
08:38.53 | cpufreak | ah pies is back |
08:38.59 | cpufreak | its ok, he responds to that |
08:39.09 | jcml__ | I'm not going to even /ask/ |
08:39.10 | cpufreak | its affectionate, kinda |
08:39.12 | cpufreak | :) |
08:39.12 | jcml__ | :) |
08:40.20 | jcml__ | he brought us devon rock, which is kinda nice. Although a /bad/ idea for chubby b'stards like me ... |
08:40.28 | cpufreak | lol |
08:40.41 | cpufreak | is he still buying cookies every afternoon? |
08:40.50 | morsing | cpufreak! |
08:40.55 | cpufreak | i've lost half a stone since i left clara |
08:41.07 | cpufreak | lo morsing, whats up? |
08:41.23 | jcml__ | it seems to be down to once a week. |
08:41.29 | Cope | morsing1! |
08:41.51 | cpufreak | tho i may have put some of that back on at spaffy's wedding |
08:41.51 | Cope | morsing! even |
08:41.51 | cpufreak | which was good |
08:42.56 | antiphase | cheeky vimto++ |
08:43.12 | cpufreak | :D |
08:43.24 | cpufreak | u heard from spaffers since friday? |
08:43.34 | jcml__ | how was it? Was the groom radiant? The bride slightly tipsy? |
08:43.40 | antiphase | No, I presume he was busy boning and travelling |
08:43.46 | jcml__ | :)++ |
08:44.12 | antiphase | It was pretty good, if a little odd for being a civil job |
08:44.26 | cpufreak | service was short |
08:44.31 | cpufreak | photos up at |
08:44.39 | cpufreak | http://photo.ing.me.uk |
08:46.13 | z0d | Can you recommend a nice web-hosting company? I don't need anything fancy. Just 100MB web space. No CGI/PHP/SQL. Preferable with no downtime. |
08:46.55 | jcml__ | ta |
08:47.37 | cpufreak | blackcat |
08:48.01 | SlayerXP | z0d: assuming zero dynamic content, I could offer some hosting |
08:48.59 | jcml__ | Civil? So no nice music? :-( What was the reception like? |
08:49.32 | morsing | Cope! |
08:49.39 | cpufreak | lotsa booze |
08:49.45 | cpufreak | cava :S |
08:50.18 | jcml__ | niiiice x-) |
08:50.21 | rhowe | MSS is a TCP thing, right? |
08:50.24 | cpufreak | tho not a bad one |
08:57.41 | Cope | morsing: I own a volvo :) |
08:58.50 | antiphase | jcml__: No nice music unfortunately. Most of the fogies looked like they'd croak if they had to use their breath for anything other than respiration though |
09:02.26 | morsing | Cope: Really? 240? |
09:03.44 | z0d | SlayerXP: No dynamic content. |
09:04.16 | jcml__ | antiphase: what about at the reception? Did anyone disgrace themselves? :- |
09:04.17 | jcml__ | ) |
09:04.17 | SlayerXP | z0d: what sort of site is it? commerical? personal? |
09:04.26 | cpufreak | antiphase: there was music at the 'discotheque' |
09:05.36 | z0d | SlayerXP: Personal. |
09:06.15 | SlayerXP | z0d: what sort of traffic do you estimate? |
09:07.15 | morsing | ping Cope |
09:07.50 | z0d | SlayerXP: That's a good question. Not much. I believe the number of visitors is less than 20/day. The content is mostly text, with some images. |
09:08.12 | SlayerXP | z0d: and what would you like to pay per month or per year? |
09:08.13 | z0d | SlayerXP: Do you pay for the traffic? |
09:08.19 | SlayerXP | z0d: yes |
09:08.38 | z0d | SlayerXP: Monthly. |
09:08.42 | jcml__ | "mostly text, with some images." |
09:08.50 | z0d | jcml__: <-: |
09:09.07 | SlayerXP | z0d: how much would you like to pay per month? |
09:10.22 | z0d | SlayerXP: I'm not really acquainted with the prices in England. |
09:10.49 | z0d | jcml__: I'd say that a dating site is not personal. |
09:11.13 | SlayerXP | z0d: if it really is as little traffic as you say, I could probably offer, say £75+VAT, per year. |
09:12.03 | jcml__ | ah - but it is if you're the only man/woman on the site, and the others *don't*know*that* ... |
09:14.25 | z0d | SlayerXP: Thank you. Sounds good. I'll contact you if it's imminent. |
09:14.39 | Leeds | z0d: do you actually need 100M of space if you're doing such a tiny amount of traffic? |
09:14.39 | SlayerXP | z0d: okay |
09:15.38 | z0d | Leeds: Well disk space is cheap. 100MB will be enough for a while. |
09:19.42 | Leeds | thinking that you might almost be as good with the free space from an ISP or something |
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09:23.02 | z0d | I do have one already, but I'm going to bring it to England. |
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09:36.42 | wethrin | morning |
09:57.04 | mozrat | G'Morning |
10:00.43 | Leeds | okay, any help? got a crappy little ethernet print 'server' here, got a printer plugged in, got no idea to find out what the printer queues are called on it |
10:01.23 | Leeds | it appears to talk ipp |
10:02.31 | mozrat | No web interface or telnet? |
10:03.46 | Leeds | yes, but it doesn't give queue names |
10:04.27 | mozrat | I would guess "default" then |
10:06.25 | SlayerXP | Leeds: how is the printer connected to it? |
10:06.58 | Cope | morsinG: 960 |
10:07.21 | Leeds | usb |
10:09.17 | Leeds | apparently they're called lp1, lp2 and lp3 |
10:12.31 | cpufreak | jcml__: do you have sound/video ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaasDfKC9oo |
10:13.35 | jcml__ | yep, but no flash. I do have wget, tho ... |
10:14.52 | jcml__ | is this a particularararly clara-related bus, then? :-) |
10:15.27 | jcml__ | :-( uTube-- : 51K/s |
10:16.02 | Leeds | got it working fine from cups on Linux, now need to get it working with cups on OSX - using the GUI |
10:19.36 | jcml__ | good god. 110mph. that's faster than my chiltern train manages in the morning. |
10:21.28 | JAV | hello |
10:21.31 | andrew___ | Hi - does anyone know of harware dianostic program - eg on a Live CD |
10:21.46 | phearless | good morning ! ! |
10:24.33 | mozrat | hi phearless |
10:26.06 | jcml__ | andrew___: I'm pretty sure either debian or ubuntu come with memtest86 as a boot option ... |
10:26.21 | jcml__ | Try getting the debian netinst iso (120mb?) ... |
10:31.17 | andrew___ | trying memtest in Knopix |
10:31.22 | antiphase | umbongo has that option. So does gentoo I think, which has a smaler install CD |
10:32.34 | jcml__ | tomsrtbt? |
10:32.46 | antiphase | old skool |
10:32.57 | jcml__ | f33r my age!! |
10:33.12 | wethrin | Mmm. tomsrtbt |
10:33.20 | wethrin | Damn useful bit of software |
10:33.32 | jcml__ | 'cept on a Dell or apple ... |
10:33.35 | wethrin | Rather than OMGTINYLINUX!!!!!! only 150MB!!!!1!! |
10:34.33 | wethrin | I still have hard drives smaller than that. Mutter mutter |
10:35.00 | jcml__ | ooo - want some more? I'm getting /kicked/ by the SO to get rid of some boxes'o'crap ... |
10:35.16 | wethrin | Depends.....whatchoo got? :) |
10:36.53 | jcml__ | stuff which I got second hand, put in a box, and could never bring myself to throw away. Think my old HDDs are mixed up with not-my-HDDs, so probably need to destroy them :-( Apart from that, just shedloads of pci cards, isa cards, random cables, etc ... |
10:36.55 | morsing | Cope: Cool :) |
10:38.10 | jcml__ | + a couple of old 24-port 10Mbps 1U switches and a 6 port 100(!!!1!)Mbps switch. |
10:38.26 | jcml__ | going free to a good home ... |
10:38.33 | wethrin | Ehh. |
10:39.57 | jcml__ | I know, I know. I keep /meaning/ to put the 42U rack on the Xmas list, but SWMBO has let me know it just wouldn't be a good idea :-| |
10:41.45 | wethrin | But it's space-saving! |
10:41.50 | wethrin | You can store all your stuff vertically! |
10:42.06 | jcml__ | I tried that one. |
10:42.28 | jcml__ | Apparently, I can just throw /away/ all the stuff that would otherwise need storing in the rack |
10:42.33 | wethrin | Heresy! |
10:43.02 | jcml__ | "it's all really old, isn't it. And you've not /touched/ that 486 in 3 years ..." |
10:43.27 | mozrat | jcml__: how long have you has this "wife"? How long have you had all of these computers if you total the amount of time? |
10:43.41 | mozrat | This could be a rather simple math problem |
10:43.53 | Cope | morsing: it is ace! I drove an 850 T5 too - was pretty quick :) |
10:45.25 | jcml__ | I know, I know. But the wife has certain sentimental attachments ... |
10:46.14 | Cope | morsing: why does this cron entry: 0 6,12,18,0 * * * /home/nelsonst/test_cron.sh |
10:46.20 | Cope | run twice at midnight |
10:47.43 | jcml__ | does anacron get its sweaty mitts in there, somehow? |
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10:49.21 | Cope | woo keithlard |
10:49.24 | wethrin | Keef! |
10:52.37 | Leeds | working on a mac can get very frustrating, since they are often almost, but not quite, PCs |
10:52.45 | Leeds | uh, s/PCs/Unix boxen/ |
10:53.18 | mozrat | Leeds: are you in London on October 9th? |
10:53.44 | Cope | What's personal accident cover? Is it worth adding to car insurance for 4 quid a month? |
10:54.59 | wethrin | Is that if you run yourself over? :) |
10:55.10 | wethrin | How much of a percentage increase is the £4? |
10:59.07 | Cope | 10% |
10:59.22 | Leeds | mozrat: no |
10:59.41 | mozrat | k |
11:00.05 | wethrin | Cope: Eh. If you think it's worth it |
11:00.26 | Cope | well I don't know |
11:00.29 | Cope | am asking you guys! |
11:01.06 | mozrat | Cope: really depends if taking out that extra insurance means you are over-insured. |
11:01.18 | wethrin | I don't like insurance companies generally |
11:01.24 | mozrat | if you already have personal accident cover outside of that policy you may not be bothered |
11:01.34 | mozrat | if you have none at all... £4 is probably a good idea! |
11:01.40 | mozrat | wethrin: no, me either |
11:01.57 | Cope | hrm |
11:02.02 | mozrat | They rate at the bottom of my list next to "Estate Agents" "US Presidents" and "Windows users" |
11:02.13 | wethrin | Now, now. There were some very good US presidents |
11:02.16 | wethrin | About 50 years ago |
11:02.35 | mozrat | Didn't they shoot that one? |
11:02.36 | Leeds | mozrat: ah, that's your mac user group talk? |
11:02.52 | mozrat | Leeds: yah |
11:02.57 | mozrat | it's in a nice pub |
11:03.24 | Leeds | mozrat: I suspect my standard technique of treating all computers as running Unix until proven otherwise may not always be the best way of going about things :-) |
11:03.35 | mozrat | Leeds: HA! |
11:03.37 | mozrat | ;-) |
11:03.45 | wethrin | Leeds: I think that's an entirely reasonable assumption |
11:03.54 | wethrin | After all, people wouldn't be asking you for Windows help, now, would they? :) |
11:04.16 | Leeds | wethrin: not often - but they do ask me for OSX help, which is - as I said above - almost, but not quite Unix |
11:04.22 | wethrin | True |
11:04.45 | jcml__ | Hmm. What's the right term for a "Windows support booty call"? |
11:05.13 | wethrin | Penance. |
11:10.01 | cpufreak | http://www.petitiononline.com/tg100/petition.html |
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11:20.27 | morsing | Lotto-Kim! |
11:32.28 | Leeds | got it working... ended up installing esp ghostscript, foomatic and guten-print (previously know as gimp-print) and having to edit /etc/cups/printers.conf by hand - but it's working! |
11:32.50 | mozrat | easy as that! |
11:33.54 | Leeds | any mac user would find it trivial! |
11:34.24 | Leeds | the problem comes down to the fact that the driver from HP for the printer is not what Apple call a 'modern driver' - a cups/ppd-type driver, I assume - so it can only be used for local printing, not networked |
11:34.54 | mozrat | quite. It was just click.. click... type loads.. restart daemon.. ask IRC.. Google it.. type some more |
11:34.59 | Leeds | if it was a networked HP printer, that would be a different matter, but it's a USB printer plugged into a no-name networked print server |
11:36.01 | Leeds | the solution came from solving the problem on my Linux box, then working out how to transfer the solution over :-) |
11:36.20 | morsing | Nice |
11:36.50 | Leeds | when all you've got is a hammer, problems start to look an awful lot like nuts... |
11:37.56 | Leeds | I've got a really nice hammer :-) |
11:41.45 | z0d | I'd rather have a Hummer. |
11:42.28 | morsing | Mmm... Lobster |
11:45.18 | mozrat | z0d: think of the planet dude! |
11:45.26 | mozrat | those monsters are so unnecessary |
11:47.22 | z0d | Maybe. But they're almost indestructible and look great. |
11:49.33 | mozrat | They look better in an environment where they may actually be useful (like mountains or a war zone) rather than Oxford St. where I seem to keep seeing them |
11:49.53 | wethrin | mozrat: But THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!!11!! |
11:50.01 | wethrin | How else can they be taken to school? |
11:50.03 | mozrat | wethrin: :-) |
11:50.17 | z0d | They should be fueled with water. |
11:50.28 | z0d | (I don't mean the children.) |
11:50.43 | wethrin | They should be fuelled with the wailing and gnashing of overrun pedestrians |
11:51.06 | antiphase | The restart of the school run has had a shocking effect on the length of my journey to work |
11:51.10 | antiphase | Stupid lazy children |
11:51.22 | mozrat | Mine get the bus :-) |
11:51.25 | antiphase | but OMG paedophiles! |
11:51.43 | wethrin | I got the bus to grammar school |
11:52.03 | wethrin | Got a lift to my earlier schooling, but that's because there weren't any buses, and it was in a different town |
11:52.18 | wethrin | antiphase: Oxford Street is full of paedophiles? |
11:53.49 | antiphase | Can't say I've noticed any. There aren't enough shrubs anyway |
11:57.25 | Leeds | I got the bus to school until I could drive myself... |
12:11.43 | Lotto-Kim | morsing:D |
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12:56.40 | cpufreak | jcml__: did you answer my question earlier? |
12:56.42 | cpufreak | I ran off coz of work |
12:56.47 | cpufreak | do you have working sound @ work? |
12:56.52 | cpufreak | if so, watch: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaasDfKC9oo |
13:00.16 | jcml__ | was that the bus one? |
13:00.20 | jcml__ | watched it :-) |
13:00.36 | jcml__ | without sound, tho - is it important? |
13:00.54 | cpufreak | you need sound. |
13:06.03 | Cope | "Who is the coolest guy in the hospital?" |
13:06.09 | Cope | ... |
13:06.30 | Cope | "The ultra-sound guy!" :o) |
13:08.21 | Cope | and... |
13:09.05 | Cope | A biochemist walks into a bar and says: I'd like a pint of adenosine triphosphate, please. |
13:09.22 | Cope | The barman smiles, and says: "That'll be 80p" |
13:09.26 | mozrat | he nearly loses it? |
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13:11.48 | jcml__ | cpufreak: that. is. genius. |
13:13.52 | Cope | the video thing? |
13:14.00 | jcml__ | yep |
13:14.12 | jcml__ | The voiceover is brilliant :-) |
13:14.30 | cpufreak | it works best if you know antiphase. |
13:14.31 | jcml__ | the video's not too exciting (well, unless going fast in a bus does it for you), but the VO is /class/ |
13:14.52 | jcml__ | Ah! /Thought/ I recognised it! :-) |
13:14.53 | jcml__ | hehehe |
13:15.12 | jcml__ | antiphase: WhenTF did you get your hands on one of those? |
13:22.35 | antiphase | A Volvo B10M? I used to drive buses in and around Bath |
13:23.09 | cup | How do I write an initrd file which is independant of the booting media, currently mine refers to hda but I might be booting from sda? |
13:25.28 | antiphase | Why would an initrd have anything about your exact setup in it? |
13:27.14 | cup | because I am not very good at writing them? It has mount in it which uses /dev/hda2 and then pivot_root |
13:29.16 | cup | all the initrd I googled on the web seem to do this, is that wrong? |
13:29.43 | antiphase | It seems rather peculiar. What are you trying to do? |
13:30.19 | jcml__ | antiphase: Cool :-) weekend hobby, or F/T job? |
13:30.56 | antiphase | jcml__: Started off as the former, ended up being the latter for some time after university |
13:31.18 | jcml__ | nice :-) |
13:31.27 | jcml__ | did you ever beat that top speed? |
13:33.11 | cup | just learning linux, trying my make an OS that will boot of USB of hard disk without any problems |
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13:38.10 | antiphase | Sounds like a noble cause. Can't see the point myself though, and I think you'll have problems unless you can find a bootloader that can do things that grub and lilo can't ;) |
13:39.18 | wethrin | Okay - what's the current best Linux rescue CD out there? |
13:39.41 | cup | cheers anyway |
13:39.50 | Cope | you want to rescue your machine from linux? I'd suggest a netbsd cd |
13:39.51 | z0d | Though Knoppix is not considered a rescue CD, I have had good experiences with it. |
13:40.13 | wethrin | Cope: No - need to rescue a machine *with* Linux. Hopefully |
13:40.23 | wethrin | Something that'll talk NTFS is important |
13:41.33 | Cope | STFMLA |
13:41.52 | Cope | I recommended one a while back - very good indeed - although i can't recall it's name any more. |
13:42.13 | wethrin | Okay. Thanks. Was just wondering if there was any current favourite here |
13:42.28 | Cope | yeah... erm - i just can't remember it's name! |
13:44.13 | Cope | <PROTECTED> |
13:44.25 | Cope | all the tools you need - see http://www.sysresccd.org/ |
13:44.56 | wethrin | I just found that |
13:45.04 | wethrin | Cope: *it's*?? |
13:45.06 | wethrin | shame! |
13:48.17 | wethrin | Cope: http://www.thechap.net/alumnus.html - you might find it amusing |
13:59.32 | morsing | Moo |
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14:51.46 | mozrat | ouchy |
14:51.58 | mozrat | I'm doing my expenses from Milan |
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14:59.10 | phearless | hya |
14:59.12 | phearless | heya |
14:59.17 | phearless | I got a big big problem |
15:00.10 | sabinef72 | is it a geek problem |
15:00.13 | sabinef72 | ? |
15:00.15 | phearless | yes |
15:00.17 | phearless | Fatal server error: |
15:00.18 | phearless | no screens found |
15:00.23 | phearless | fedora = not working |
15:00.28 | phearless | ubuntu = not working |
15:00.36 | phearless | windows = it works |
15:00.45 | Lotto-Kim | suse? :) |
15:01.43 | phearless | i am not in the mood to joke with suze |
15:02.13 | mozrat | phearless: knoppix? and then "borrow" the xorg.conf file |
15:02.17 | z0d | phearless: What video card do you have? |
15:02.25 | phearless | lspci |grep ATI |
15:02.25 | phearless | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B62 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)] |
15:02.25 | phearless | 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon X600(RV380) |
15:02.58 | antiphase | Install some drivers ;P |
15:03.07 | phearless | mozrat: i have not modified xorg.conf |
15:03.22 | mozrat | phearless: it just broke? |
15:03.31 | phearless | yes |
15:03.34 | phearless | i was usuing fedora |
15:03.48 | z0d | phearless: Did an upgrade break it? |
15:03.48 | phearless | and my feet hurted the cable of the graphic card this morning |
15:04.07 | phearless | and since this, xorg is dead |
15:04.25 | phearless | i remove the GC, re-plugged it, etc |
15:04.48 | phearless | antiphase what are you talking about ? |
15:05.27 | antiphase | ATI gfx cards are horrible |
15:05.51 | phearless | it is not the topic |
15:07.11 | mozrat | phearless: you think you might have physically damaged the card? |
15:07.53 | phearless | maybe ! |
15:08.00 | phearless | but on windows everything works |
15:08.20 | phearless | it was my first boot on windows with this PC |
15:08.44 | phearless | maybe the DVI cable is damaged? |
15:09.26 | z0d | But even if the cable was damaged, X wouldn't notice. |
15:10.56 | z0d | phearless: Are you sure your Xorg.conf wasn't modified? |
15:11.18 | z0d | Do you have the ATI driver loaded? |
15:13.40 | phearless | what is the name of the module ? |
15:15.27 | SlayerXP | getting 3d enabled with a 64 bit driver was a bit of a pest |
15:15.33 | SlayerXP | bloody quick when I did |
15:15.52 | phearless | agpgart 34888 1 intel_agp |
15:16.01 | phearless | intel_agp 22940 1 |
15:16.13 | phearless | video 16260 0 |
15:16.24 | phearless | i do not see any fglrx or ati modules loaded |
15:17.05 | z0d | I don't know the name of your ATI driver. |
15:17.12 | z0d | Never owned an ATI. |
15:17.49 | mozrat | free software module is "radeon", closed evil one is "ati" AFAIK |
15:18.51 | phearless | no ati or radeon |
15:18.51 | SlayerXP | no, the evil one is fglsomethingortheother |
15:19.00 | phearless | I am installing xorg-driver-fglrx |
15:19.41 | phearless | <reboot>... |
15:20.36 | antiphase | You may also find it instructive to look at the log |
15:20.46 | SlayerXP | why would you need to reboot to change an x driver? |
15:22.10 | phearless | antiphase, the first thing that I pasted was from the log |
15:22.24 | phearless | SlayerXP, to load the fglrxsomething kernel module |
15:22.38 | SlayerXP | phearless: modprobe |
15:22.49 | antiphase | Driver "fglrx" in xorg.conf works for me |
15:22.58 | SlayerXP | phearless: see also "rmmod" |
15:24.31 | phearless | i know modprobe and rmmod, but I do not know what to load |
15:24.32 | trousers | Howyd y'all |
15:24.35 | phearless | ok |
15:25.02 | phearless | it owrks |
15:25.05 | phearless | it works |
15:25.53 | Cope | rar |
15:26.05 | phearless | i come on irc back via my normal pc.... |
15:26.21 | SlayerXP | phearless: given that you've type the name of the module into the X config file..... |
15:28.41 | wethrin | Mmm...IO errors |
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15:31.45 | morsing | PussInBoots! |
15:34.39 | Cope | DickWhittington! |
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15:47.53 | morsing | :( |
15:51.40 | Leeds | ? |
16:03.23 | mozrat | Leeds, can you op me please |
16:04.09 | *** mode/#gllug [+o mozrat] by ChanServ |
16:04.34 | z0d | mozrat: Feel the power |
16:05.29 | mozrat | woo ! |
16:06.08 | *** topic/#gllug by mozrat -> Greater London Linux User Group - Next event is 30th September - Anti-DRM demonstration. Regents Street. http://gllug.org.uk http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
16:06.27 | mozrat | Not quite an Â"event" but should be worth going anyway |
16:06.34 | *** mode/#gllug [-o mozrat] by mozrat |
16:08.30 | mozrat | I wonder if I can make child sized HAZMAT suits in time? |
16:09.18 | z0d | What could be more HAZMAT than mozrat with ops? |
16:09.43 | mozrat | Indeed! |
16:12.01 | wethrin | Hm. outside the Apple Store? That'll be popular... |
16:13.17 | wethrin | Oh, mozrat - I'd really like a Hazmat suit, if you could grab one.... |
16:15.44 | mozrat | wethrin: I think they are taking them back to the US |
16:25.37 | wethrin | Oh. That's a bit rubbish of them |
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16:29.24 | Lotto-Kim | Regents Street, is that the street left for oxford circle? |
16:29.25 | mozrat | s/protest/promotion/g |
16:29.42 | mozrat | Lotto-Kim: well - depends which way you are walking :-) |
16:29.45 | mozrat | but - yes. it is |
16:30.00 | Lotto-Kim | thanks:) |
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16:54.32 | Leeds | note to self: python is not SQL - don't use 'where' in filters in list comprehensions |
17:33.00 | z0d | Anybody using darcs in his $HOME? |
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20:25.39 | andrew___ | anyone aaround ? |
20:27.14 | Leeds | nope |
20:27.31 | Leeds | well, I am pretty round, but I don't like being referred to that way |
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21:09.01 | *** topic/#gllug is Greater London Linux User Group - Next event is 30th September - Anti-DRM demonstration. Regents Street. http://gllug.org.uk http://planet.gllug.org.uk |
21:38.07 | Leeds | argh! |
21:51.10 | murb | Leeds: how? |
21:52.00 | Leeds | what do you mean? got a £20.01 bill and a £20 voucher to apply, meaning they just took 1p off my c/c |
22:07.00 | Leeds | hmm... zimki? |
22:36.21 | mozrat | Who is Diana Scott?? |
22:36.31 | mozrat | She seems determined to stick with using Linux |
22:37.13 | antiphase | Must be Henry Gilbert's alter-ego |
22:37.38 | z0d | Who is Henry Gilbert? |
22:37.57 | mozrat | So confusing |
22:38.22 | Leeds | do we have any reason to believe that Henry is Diana, or is it just a guess? |
22:38.31 | mozrat | z0d: Henry and Diana are both forever famous in GLLUG fokelore for being a little bizarre |
22:38.58 | mozrat | Leeds: just because they both started wibbling on together in the same thread at the same time having never been heard of before |
22:39.55 | antiphase | The schizo sockpuppet face of gllug |
23:09.14 | mozrat | ugh, it's tomorrow already? |
23:09.17 | mozrat | NightNight |
23:09.31 | Leeds | night |
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