irclog2html for #gllug on 20060911

`00:10.25`	`Leeds`	`rented it for a week for a couple of quid`
`00:11.35`	`Leeds`	`:-)`
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`07:05.54`	`morsing`	`'morning all`
`07:08.51`	`Leeds`	`ugh`
`07:09.24`	`morsing`	`?`
`07:09.45`	`Leeds`	`it's morning...`
`07:10.22`	`Leeds`	`and I'm awake...`
`07:10.26`	`morsing`	`You owe me a beer`
`07:10.42`	`Leeds`	`what for?`
`07:11.15`	`morsing`	`Leeds: Cambridge is not in Essex`
`07:11.15`	`LottoKim`	`morning`
`07:11.50`	`Leeds`	`uh, what?`
`07:21.48`	`morsing`	`Leeds: You know...`
`07:26.21`	`Leeds`	`morsing: are you drunk?`
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`07:38.33`	`mozrat`	`G'Morning`
`07:38.53`	`Leeds`	`hi, mozzie`
`07:39.45`	`mozrat`	`Hey Leeds`
`07:40.20`	`mozrat`	`Leeds, the meeting is "back on track" now. Two lovely volunteers have stepped forward to take it over`
`07:40.23`	`mozrat`	`phew!`
`07:42.24`	`Leeds`	`good! :-)`
`07:45.53`	`Leeds`	`hmm... I can get a return flight from Leeds to Amsterdam for 40 quid up - including fees, taxes, etc. - or 60 quid at useful times, i.e. morning out evening back`
`07:48.05`	`morsing`	`mozrat!`
`07:48.09`	`mozrat`	`morsing!`
`08:02.47`	`morsing`	`Mmm... Dual plane`
`08:04.48`	`mozrat`	`http://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/265-Dan-Kolb-is-my-hero-and-Colin-Watson-too!.html`
`08:07.16`	`Leeds`	`who is Colin Watson?`
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`08:09.35`	`mozrat`	`I think SpudULike knows him`
`08:09.35`	`morsing`	`huw-l!`
`08:09.52`	`morsing`	`I though is was SpudULike`
`08:09.56`	`morsing`	`it`
`08:10.54`	`Leeds`	`no, SpudULike is not called Watson`
`08:11.22`	`mozrat`	`BOLLOCKS`
`08:11.27`	`mozrat`	`GRNHFT`
`08:11.35`	`mozrat`	`Who is Colin Watson - i meant Colin Murphy`
`08:11.39`	`mozrat`	`Sorry SpudULike`
`08:12.00`	`mozrat`	`God, I am such a twat`
`08:12.38`	`mozrat`	`http://beerandspeech.org/index.php?/archives/265-Dan-Kolb-is-my-hero-and-Colin-Murphy-too!.html`
`08:13.09`	`mozrat`	`Colin Watson is a guy who works for Canonical`
`08:13.35`	`Leeds`	`heh`
`08:16.23`	`mozrat`	`At least it didn't make it to Planet GLLUG`
`08:17.22`	`Leeds`	`then, uh, Colin Murphy is SpudULike :-)`
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`08:17.43`	`mozrat`	`He is, and I am a twat`
`08:17.51`	`SlayerXP`	`?`
`08:18.37`	`Leeds`	`SlayerXP: sorry - we were talking about you`
`08:18.40`	`mozrat`	`SlayerXP: Me being a twat - you appear at an unfortunate moment`
`08:19.00`	`mozrat`	`I was getting my Colins mixed up in a blog post`
`08:19.02`	`Leeds`	`s/were/weren't/`
`08:19.27`	`mozrat`	`Morning Martin`
`08:19.45`	`mozrat`	`So your nephew is off the critical list? (Not life threatening?)`
`08:24.09`	`SlayerXP`	`he's fine`
`08:24.32`	`SlayerXP`	`well, fine as in he's a healthy as can be expected after having his leg blown off by a landmine`
`08:28.17`	`mozrat`	`Good to hear (kind of)`
`08:28.41`	`mozrat`	`Do you know if he lost his leg above or below the knee?`
`08:29.06`	`mozrat`	`They can do amazing work if it's lower limb loss - a pal of mine in the Army lost his leg in a bike crash below the knww`
`08:29.09`	`mozrat`	`knee`
`08:29.28`	`mozrat`	`You can walk unaided with a bit of training`
`08:38.50`	`morsing`	`Gggnnfnff! A chassis number is irrelevant...`
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`08:45.12`	`Leeds`	`morning phearless`
`08:45.35`	`phearless`	`good morning everybody !`
`08:48.48`	`mozrat`	`Hello phearless`
`08:49.19`	`z00dax`	`mornings!`
`08:49.24`	`phearless`	`another monday morning`
`08:49.30`	`phearless`	`...`
`08:49.30`	`z00dax`	`yay!`
`09:09.58`	`mozrat`	`z00dax: did you ever get that SIP wireless phone working?`
`09:20.13`	`z00dax`	`mozrat: I did, eventually! it does work ok`
`09:20.53`	`z00dax`	`the wifi performance isnt the best though - need to stay relatively close to the base AP`
`09:59.02`	`mozrat`	`z00dax: what is the voice quality like?`
`09:59.13`	`mozrat`	`I might beg it back from you soon :(`
`10:06.02`	`z00dax`	`sure, its yours!`
`10:06.26`	`z00dax`	`voice is ok, I am using it with a remote voip setup in singapore - so i presume some of the issues are latency related.`
`10:06.35`	`z00dax`	`but its all 4bit'ish type of voice`
`10:09.47`	`wethrin`	`rarr`
`10:12.32`	`mozrat`	`Hello hero`
`10:16.31`	`morsing`	`wethrin!`
`10:16.53`	`Leeds`	`time to take the hot shower, cold shower lottery for the day!`
`10:17.18`	`wethrin`	`people!`
`10:17.39`	`morsing`	`Mmm... lottery`
`10:30.12`	`Leeds`	`not that sort of lottery...`
`10:31.07`	`mozrat`	`If it's a very cold shower what happens to the bonus balls?`
`10:46.57`	`Leeds`	`sort of the opposite to them dropping...`
`10:47.21`	`rhowe`	`/dev/mapper/vgOS-lvTmp 1014M 1014M 108K 100% /tmp`
`10:47.24`	`rhowe`	`hmmm`
`10:47.33`	`rhowe`	`Thankyou eclipse, for saving a gig of .so's in /tmp`
`10:47.42`	`rhowe`	`It seems to require this in order to run`
`10:48.50`	`rhowe`	`/dev/mapper/vgOS-lvTmp 1.5G 1014M 501M 67% /tmp`
`10:48.56`	`rhowe`	`ah, online XFS resize works a treat :)`
`10:58.49`	`phearless`	`<mozrat> z00dax: did you ever get that SIP wireless phone working?`
`10:58.51`	`phearless`	`which one ?`
`10:58.58`	`z00dax`	`that one`
`11:07.13`	`morsing`	`:(`
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`11:19.28`	`mozrat`	`wethrin: ping`
`11:19.39`	`mozrat`	`phearless: it is a Zyxel wireless SIP phone`
`11:19.47`	`mozrat`	`fairly cheap but it works`
`11:20.10`	`phearless`	`Zyxel voip phones got a bad quality of sound, as I heard`
`11:20.34`	`mozrat`	`phearless: yeah, cheap and cheerful`
`11:20.39`	`phearless`	`I am currently trying the linksys/sipura SPA-942`
`11:20.40`	`mozrat`	`a Cisco one would be nice`
`11:20.53`	`phearless`	`cisco wireless are too expensive`
`11:20.54`	`mozrat`	`especially seeing as they are moving their VoIP line over to SIP`
`11:21.04`	`mozrat`	`their VoIP product line I should say`
`11:21.32`	`phearless`	`http://www.cordless-phones.uk.com/skype-phones/cordless-skype-phones/siemens-gigaset-c460-ip this one looks interesting`
`11:21.39`	`phearless`	`it is a DECT SIP phone`
`11:21.47`	`phearless`	`so you got SIP, and the good quality of voice`
`11:22.06`	`mozrat`	`Hmm, cheap as well`
`11:23.41`	`phearless`	`yes but still not available :-(`
`11:23.51`	`mozrat`	`oh`
`11:24.16`	`murb`	`phearless: there is an older model avalible`
`11:24.20`	`murb`	`i've seen it in the shops`
`11:24.23`	`murb`	`that has dect and ethernet`
`11:24.26`	`murb`	`but it isn't isdn`
`11:24.30`	`murb`	`so not very useful.`
`11:24.48`	`phearless`	`ah do you know the model name ?`
`11:24.56`	`murb`	`c450 i guess.`
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`11:51.22`	`wethrin`	`mozrat: pong`
`11:55.26`	`mozrat`	`wethrin: read your email yet? Do you think I should present on Sat or is 3 presentations enough?`
`11:56.23`	`wethrin`	`That really depends on how long the other presentations last, and how confident you are on getting there on time :)`
`11:57.00`	`mozrat`	`I'm confident I'll be on time to present last`
`11:57.09`	`wethrin`	`mozrat: Which email address did you send it to?`
`11:57.20`	`mozrat`	`gllug at eco.li`
`11:57.37`	`wethrin`	`Ahh`
`11:59.20`	`mozrat`	`wethrin: true. But also I wanted to involve a few people that may not want to be on that list`
`12:00.27`	`wethrin`	`Fair enough`
`12:01.37`	`wethrin`	`Hm. Introducing Software Freedom Day...`
`12:32.15`	`morsing`	`:)`
`12:34.36`	`SlayerXP`	`i'll bite, what the hell is an "advocacy walk"? and why do we imagine anyone will care?`
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`12:46.56`	`Cope`	`walk?`
`12:47.04`	`mozrat`	`ibot moonslap SlayerXP`
`12:47.17`	`ibot`	`ACTION nabs the moon and broadsides SlayerXP with the sea of tranquility`
`12:47.39`	`mozrat`	`I needed constructive comments a month ago when I asked for them!!`
`12:47.51`	`mozrat`	`Not 5 days before the event when the final reminder is going out`
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`13:02.36`	`rhowe`	`There's a GLLUG meet this month? :)`
`13:03.59`	`SlayerXP`	`it's not too late to fix, get xinit to foot the bill for some eyecandy to do the handing out`
`13:04.40`	`SlayerXP`	`you want people with social skills approaching people on the street, not debian developers.`
`13:07.58`	`mozrat`	`SlayerXP: I'm all admin'd out at the moment. I'm off to Milan on Thursday so I can't really chase them. If they are fairly generous I might tap them for some stuff for the expo though`
`13:08.06`	`mozrat`	`do you have a contact there?`
`13:08.35`	`SlayerXP`	`mozrat: not recently.`
`13:08.49`	`SlayerXP`	`but there's at least one xinit guy on the list`
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`13:22.40`	`popey`	`yo`
`13:22.44`	`popey`	`mozrat: you about?`
`13:23.18`	`SlayerXP`	`# Watch out! Mozrat's about!`
`13:23.32`	`popey`	`heh`
`13:23.46`	`popey`	`was talking about the Humphrey campaign in the pub the other night`
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`13:29.01`	`mozrat`	`popey: yep`
`13:34.44`	`mozrat`	`ibot wake popey`
`13:34.52`	`ibot`	`ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on popey and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!"`
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`13:39.17`	`popey`	`heh`
`13:39.28`	`popey`	`mozrat: mind if i copy and paste your mail to our wiki for reference?`
`13:39.32`	`mozrat`	`hey Popey - how is SMP getting on?`
`13:39.37`	`popey`	`very well thanks`
`13:39.42`	`popey`	`he's sleeping lots :)`
`13:39.43`	`popey`	`in fact`
`13:39.57`	`mozrat`	`popey: Well - I have to consider that it's my copyrighted material and what if a future employer... oh what the hell. Go nuts`
`13:39.57`	`popey`	`sleeping - eating - pooping - sleeping - eating - pooping etc`
`13:40.03`	`popey`	`:)`
`13:40.15`	`mozrat`	`ibot SMP is popey version 3`
`13:40.19`	`ibot`	`...but smp is already something else...`
`13:40.22`	`mozrat`	`ah, true`
`13:40.25`	`mozrat`	`ibot smp`
`13:40.26`	`ibot`	`it has been said that smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing.. A feature of an SMP system is that it uses shared memory between all the processors, rather than each processor having ...`
`13:41.04`	`popey`	`er`
`13:41.07`	`popey`	`popey version 2.5`
`13:41.17`	`popey`	`their children will be version 3 +`
`13:41.24`	`popey`	`I am hoping they will fork`
`13:42.36`	`mozrat`	`ah yes. I didn't see the picture before. Just clicked onto your blog`
`13:42.39`	`mozrat`	`very nice :-)`
`13:42.43`	`popey`	`ta :)`
`13:42.44`	`mozrat`	`My boy started school today`
`13:42.47`	`popey`	`\o/`
`13:43.11`	`mozrat`	`popey: think of yourself as a supervisory/consultancy role in the proceedings :-)`
`13:43.19`	`mozrat`	`middle-management sort of thing`
`13:43.33`	`mozrat`	`"Are you sure you shouldn't be pushing a bit harder dear"..`
`13:44.36`	`popey`	`hehe`
`13:44.41`	`popey`	`it's not pleasant is it?`
`13:44.48`	`mozrat`	`No, it's bloody horrible`
`13:44.55`	`popey`	`especially pushing a 10lb baby out of a small frame`
`13:45.13`	`mozrat`	`9lb is big`
`13:45.37`	`popey`	`he looks 3 months old already :)`
`13:47.03`	`boudiccas`	`mozrat; hint - don't let your partner hold your hand during birth, =you= hold her hand, the back of it! this obviates her crushing your hand/fingers during contractions`
`13:47.54`	`mozrat`	`boudiccas: It's sound advice but I hope to not have to use it`
`13:48.22`	`boudiccas`	`learnt it during my maternity placement :)`
`13:52.30`	`mozrat`	`boudiccas: how many did you "despatch" during your placement?`
`14:02.52`	`boudiccas`	`mozrat; assisted in 2.5 births, from memory`
`14:02.52`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: why are you wondering about me?`
`14:03.40`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: what do I have to do with birthing?`
`14:03.41`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: Your StuddToDisposeOf`
`14:03.49`	`wethrin`	`*Stuff`
`14:03.53`	`boudiccas`	`.5 of a birth becuase my shift ended before the baby was produced but during labour, so as I was supernumerary I was able to go home`
`14:03.59`	`wethrin`	`When I said 'this', I just referred to the line I wrote :)`
`14:04.51`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: what on earth are you talking about?`
`14:05.08`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: http://bigboy.vmlinuz.org/moin/StuffToDisposeOf`
`14:05.35`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: yes, I know of that page... I still don't know what you're talking about! I`
`14:05.38`	`LeedsHK`	`I'm confused`
`14:05.55`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: I was wondering if you were around`
`14:06.00`	`wethrin`	`That's all`
`14:06.19`	`wethrin`	`I merely used a phrase different to '/me wonders if LeedsHK is around'`
`14:06.54`	`mozrat`	`boudiccas: someone had half a child?`
`14:07.04`	`mozrat`	`oh, sorry. I read your next bit`
`14:07.14`	`boudiccas`	`mozrat; :)`
`14:07.22`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: why did you bring up my name???`
`14:08.45`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: I was wondering if I could get some of the bits off you in exchange for beer at the Gllug meeting`
`14:10.26`	`LeedsHK`	`ah! so what you mean to say was "LeedsHK: ping?"`
`14:10.34`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: Yes`
`14:10.47`	`LeedsHK`	`in that case: pong :-)`
`14:10.48`	`wethrin`	`basically`
`14:11.25`	`wethrin`	`The iPod car charger - is that to fit an iPod with dock connector?`
`14:11.43`	`LeedsHK`	`yes`
`14:12.14`	`wethrin`	`Excellent. So it should work with my 4Gen iPod`
`14:12.41`	`LeedsHK`	`certainly shou;d`
`14:13.31`	`wethrin`	`Is the xbox likely to be fast enough to play videos (DivX)?`
`14:14.19`	`LeedsHK`	`yes - that's what I had it for, mainly, a media player`
`14:14.58`	`wethrin`	`Hurrah! I've been looking for something that's not my laptop, that's living-room friendly :)`
`14:15.10`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Are you coming tomorrow?`
`14:15.23`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Tomorrow?`
`14:15.44`	`LeedsHK`	`I won't swear that it'll play all xviden...`
`14:15.54`	`LeedsHK`	`note that I don't know where the remote is...`
`14:16.15`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Gllug-social`
`14:16.28`	`wethrin`	`morsing: No, anyway`
`14:16.36`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: Can it take a keyboard?`
`14:18.00`	`mozrat`	`popey: Are you bringing the CD's along on Saturday?`
`14:18.07`	`LeedsHK`	`yes, with an adapter - which I think there is one of... once it's working, you can use the native controller to control the media player stuff, although it's not the most obvious combination of controller and interface`
`14:18.30`	`wethrin`	`morsing: I'll be around on Saturday, though`
`14:18.42`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Will you? Near Aylesbury?`
`14:19.13`	`wethrin`	`London`
`14:19.16`	`morsing`	`:(`
`14:19.20`	`wethrin`	`Will be coming from Beaconsfield, though`
`14:19.23`	`mozrat`	`There's a GLLUG social tomorrow? I thought it was next week`
`14:19.46`	`wethrin`	`So if you get on a train via HW, I could meet you on the train`
`14:19.53`	`z00dax`	`yeah, i thought it was next week as well`
`14:20.06`	`LeedsHK`	`if you're talking about my drinks, I thought it was next week...`
`14:20.20`	`mozrat`	`morsing: which GLLUG Social? You've confused us all`
`14:20.43`	`wethrin`	`I won't be able to come on either Tuesday, unfortunately`
`14:20.50`	`morsing`	`This one:`
`14:20.51`	`morsing`	`social@gllug.org.uk`
`14:20.52`	`wethrin`	`morsing: It's Tuesday 19th.`
`14:21.00`	`morsing`	`wethrin: Is it?`
`14:21.11`	`morsing`	`s`
`14:21.28`	`mozrat`	`wethrin: we can have an attempt at being social on Saturday in any case`
`14:21.53`	`wethrin`	`mozrat: Of course`
`14:21.59`	`wethrin`	`morsing: Check it`
`14:23.08`	`Leeds`	`morsing: given that nobody except z00dax had a preference, it's the 19th`
`14:23.25`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: I also had a preference for next week`
`14:23.33`	`mozrat`	`I would like it to be officially noted!`
`14:24.40`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: did you express that preference in the appropriate place at the appropriate time?`
`14:25.01`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: no`
`14:25.10`	`morsing`	`Leeds: yes`
`14:26.27`	`popey`	`mozrat: yes`
`14:26.40`	`popey`	`big bag of cds`
`14:27.17`	`mozrat`	`popey: lovely`
`14:33.35`	`popey`	`now, leaflets`
`14:33.41`	`popey`	`I can churn some out here if you want`
`14:33.56`	`popey`	`Was thinking about that idea of stapling some or slipping some into the cd cases`
`14:34.08`	`popey`	`as a kind of description of the group of people who gave them the cd`
`14:34.21`	`mozrat`	`excuse my flood`
`14:34.22`	`mozrat`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:34.22`	`mozrat`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:34.22`	`mozrat`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:34.22`	`mozrat`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:34.24`	`mozrat`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:34.29`	`mozrat`	`_EOF_`
`14:34.32`	`popey`	`so that people who are in a rush or don't think they're interested can read the leaflet - say 3 bullets`
`14:34.40`	`mozrat`	`the A5freedom one is a bit cluttered`
`14:35.13`	`popey`	`would be nice to have them in an open format :S`
`14:35.23`	`mozrat`	`:-)`
`14:35.53`	`popey`	`seriously`
`14:35.55`	`popey`	`so we could edit them`
`14:36.03`	`mozrat`	`the SVGs are there`
`14:36.23`	`popey`	`you're not wrong`
`14:39.56`	`mozrat`	`one sec - brb`
`14:55.02`	`SlayerXP`	`mozrat: you might want to correct the spelling and grammar on those flyers`
`14:56.28`	`mozrat`	`SlayerXP: They aren't mine - I was posting from the SFD mailing list`
`14:56.35`	`mozrat`	`I think they are a bit too cluttered to give out`
`14:57.21`	`SlayerXP`	`5 glaring mistakes on the first`
`14:58.54`	`SlayerXP`	`1 major, 2 minor mistakes on the second`
`15:00.01`	`antiphase`	`There's a little bit of a knowledge gap too. They've been written by someone who already understand the subject but isn't able to abstract it suitably for a less technical audience`
`15:01.44`	`mozrat`	`I wrote a horrifically long PDF advertising this event - luckily someone corrected me before I sent it out :-)`
`15:01.53`	`morsing`	`How do I teach SpamAssasin?`
`15:01.58`	`Leeds`	`mozrat: you do know that lucychili is an ex-glugger?`
`15:02.03`	`popey`	`sa-learn?`
`15:02.05`	`Leeds`	`morsing: sa-learn`
`15:02.26`	`popey`	`mozrat: would you be interested in a gobby session to make a document/leaflet?`
`15:02.34`	`mozrat`	`Leeds: I do - I've been talking to her on #sfd`
`15:02.40`	`mozrat`	`popey: I would indeed`
`15:02.51`	`popey`	`i am running gobby 0.4.1`
`15:02.52`	`mozrat`	`popey: I have a obby server`
`15:02.58`	`popey`	`ahh, what version`
`15:03.02`	`mozrat`	`one sec`
`15:03.53`	`morsing`	`Leeds: But on what and do I need to move emails around?`
`15:04.02`	`morsing`	`And is it global or local learning?`
`15:04.08`	`popey`	`can't you orun it against your bad mail?`
`15:04.34`	`morsing`	`Well, how? Do I need to move mail to a folder first?`
`15:05.18`	`mozrat`	`0.3.0-3`
`15:05.23`	`popey`	`mozrat: should be okay`
`15:05.32`	`popey`	`morsing: http://www.faisal.com/docs/salearn.html`
`15:05.53`	`popey`	`#3 hit on google for sa-learn`
`15:06.07`	`mozrat`	`popey: server: beerandspeech.org`
`15:06.10`	`popey`	`mozrat: is it available now? can I join and brain dump through the day`
`15:06.11`	`popey`	`ahh`
`15:06.13`	`mozrat`	`password: gllug-sfd`
`15:06.27`	`mozrat`	`Yep - running now`
`15:06.36`	`popey`	`:( protocol version mismatch`
`15:06.53`	`popey`	`I'll see if I can downgrade`
`15:07.54`	`popey`	`aha!`
`15:07.54`	`mozrat`	`nuts`
`15:08.07`	`popey`	`i probably can`
`15:08.13`	`mozrat`	`I can connect with 0.3.0 client`
`15:08.30`	`popey`	`it's because I have phil kerns sources entry`
`15:08.42`	`Leeds`	`morsing: spam in one folder, ham in another: "sa-learn -mbox -spam spam-folder ; sa-learn -mbox -ham ma-folder"`
`15:09.06`	`Leeds`	`sorry, they should be -- not -`
`15:09.15`	`mozrat`	`popey: I can upgrade if you like`
`15:09.26`	`popey`	`heh`
`15:09.31`	`popey`	`let me see if i can downgrade first`
`15:09.32`	`popey`	`one mo`
`15:09.53`	`popey`	`installing 0.3.0 now`
`15:10.01`	`Leeds`	`morsing: note that if you're doing it properly, you do need to train on both spam and ham`
`15:10.33`	`mozrat`	`popey, before you get started I'm going to kill the server and start it again inside screen`
`15:10.36`	`mozrat`	`one sec`
`15:10.37`	`popey`	`mozrat: what port number?`
`15:10.38`	`popey`	`ok`
`15:11.07`	`mozrat`	`6522`
`15:11.10`	`popey`	`k`
`15:11.53`	`mozrat`	`ok - it's up`
`15:12.04`	`mozrat`	`if anyone else wants to join - feel free`
`15:12.47`	`popey`	`I'm in`
`15:19.11`	`morsing`	`Is there any way I can follow progress?`
`15:19.31`	`morsing`	`I'm leaving in 5 min. What happens if I ctrl-C it?`
`15:19.52`	`popey`	`run it in a screen?`
`15:20.35`	`morsing`	`popey: OH it is actually :) Thanks`
`15:20.42`	`popey`	`:)`
`15:20.49`	`z00dax`	`strace the process, that will give you a very good idea of whats going on`
`15:20.50`	`z00dax`	`:)`
`15:21.18`	`morsing`	`z00dax: And make it quicker?`
`15:22.43`	`z00dax`	`on a half decent machine sa-learn is io bound, stop other io tasks, should / might help`
`15:22.45`	`morsing`	`On mine it's 100% CPU bound...`
`15:23.01`	`morsing`	`I/O wait is a constant 0 and CPU a constant 100`
`15:23.11`	`z00dax`	`pentium-2 ?`
`15:23.58`	`morsing`	`III`
`15:24.07`	`morsing`	`1.1GHz`
`15:24.45`	`z00dax`	`p-3 should churn fairly quick... wont take too long, imho`
`15:24.57`	`Leeds`	`morsing: did you actually read the man page?`
`15:25.29`	`Leeds`	`there are at least two different ways to get it to show progress`
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`15:27.56`	`mozrat`	`gobby++`
`15:29.01`	`popey`	`:)`
`15:35.42`	`boudiccas`	`Well, well, well! Using kontact you can drag emails to either the calendar or the to do list to make dated events connected to that email!`
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`15:36.34`	`rhowe`	`boudiccas: hurrah, Outlook's only had that for about 6+ years :P`
`15:37.01`	`boudiccas`	`rhowe; maybe, but i don't use MS stuff :)`
`15:38.30`	`keithlard`	`whoo`
`15:38.37`	`CliveHills`	`I try and avoid MS`
`15:39.01`	`boudiccas`	`I don't try, I succeed. :)`
`15:39.31`	`CliveHills`	`Work forces me to use XP`
`15:39.40`	`boudiccas`	`Seriously, after having a year of dual boot to w2k, and not booting into it, i just wiped its partition and became completely linux based`
`15:40.28`	`CliveHills`	`I only use linux at home`
`15:40.38`	`CliveHills`	`(well and Solaris and OS X)`
`15:41.15`	`z00dax`	`can you not run linux on that hardware ? where you run Solaris and osx`
`15:41.26`	`CliveHills`	`You could yes`
`15:41.46`	`CliveHills`	`However OS X and Solaris are also unixes`
`15:41.54`	`z00dax`	`but not linux`
`15:42.28`	`CliveHills`	`I'm a unix person as such`
`15:42.38`	`CliveHills`	`Not specifically a linux one`
`15:42.44`	`z00dax`	`tragic!`
`15:42.48`	`z00dax`	`:D`
`15:43.06`	`CliveHills`	`mostly I run linux on stuff`
`15:43.11`	`cpufreak`	`CliveHills: when you were at Demon, did you know a George Daflidis Kotis?`
`15:43.20`	`CliveHills`	`cpufreak: indeed`
`15:43.27`	`keithlard`	`he has not been 'upgraded'! take him to the processing station!`
`15:43.27`	`CliveHills`	`Sat next to him`
`15:43.59`	`CliveHills`	`he had a prodigious capacity for kebabs`
`15:45.32`	`CliveHills`	`I started with SysV 2.1`
`15:46.16`	`cpufreak`	`CliveHills: see pm.`
`15:46.35`	`CliveHills`	`Cpu: I replied`
`15:49.33`	`cpufreak`	`not in the pm window :o`
`15:49.36`	`cpufreak`	`could you resend it?`
`15:51.03`	`wethrin`	`Leeds: ping?`
`15:52.33`	`Leeds`	`wethrin: pong`
`15:53.45`	`wethrin`	`May I request some stuff from your Disposal List?`
`15:53.55`	`mozrat`	`wethrin: you already did!`
`15:54.03`	`Leeds`	`for delivery, I assume?`
`15:54.26`	`wethrin`	`If possible; if it's not convenient, I could try and come up to Hendon pre-Gllug`
`15:56.50`	`wethrin`	`Leeds: xbox, blank tapes, phone extension (I presume it's just cable+socket?), ipod car charger, WAP ?`
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`16:00.03`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: last thing I saw was "<mozrat> wethrin: you already did!'`
`16:03.05`	`wethrin`	`Okay`
`16:03.07`	`wethrin`	`If possible; if it's not convenient, I could try and come up to Hendon pre-Gllug`
`16:03.11`	`wethrin`	`Leeds: xbox, blank tapes, phone extension (I presume it's just cable+socket?), ipod car charger, WAP`
`16:04.42`	`wethrin`	`http://bigboy.vmlinuz.org/moin/StuffToDisposeOf`
`16:05.04`	`z00dax`	`CliveHills: you need to register with NickServ in order to get pm's working`
`16:05.18`	`CliveHills`	`I've done so now`
`16:05.22`	`mozrat`	`Oooh, I'd like the linksys WAP`
`16:05.33`	`CliveHills`	`what linksys is it?`
`16:06.11`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: do you not read the list?`
`16:06.20`	`CliveHills`	`I've a WRT54GS v1.0 running openwrt`
`16:06.25`	`z00dax`	`LeedsHK: is that G450 a pci interface ?`
`16:06.31`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: I think my stupid employer drops some GLLUG email`
`16:07.02`	`mozrat`	`and I haven't been reading gmail that much`
`16:09.31`	`LeedsHK`	`okay, two points: firstly, I'm not bringing the lot with me to gllug - particularly, I'd prefer not to schlep the xbox, since it weighs a ton`
`16:10.06`	`mozrat`	`heh`
`16:10.11`	`LeedsHK`	`secondly, uh, nobody seems to have paid any attention to the "some of this stuff may actually be worth something - if so, please make me an offer" bit`
`16:10.12`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: hire a van for the day`
`16:11.32`	`z00dax`	`LeedsHK: £20 for the G450 ( as long as its a PCI card )`
`16:11.53`	`z00dax`	`I have my charity side of things sorted, so this would be to you`
`16:12.24`	`z00dax`	`would £20 be reasonable ?`
`16:12.52`	`LeedsHK`	`z00dax: just out of interest, why would you think it's PCI?`
`16:13.03`	`LeedsHK`	`since it says AGP on the list...`
`16:13.16`	`LeedsHK`	`:-)`
`16:13.26`	`z00dax`	`doh! it also says 400`
`16:13.46`	`LeedsHK`	`as it happens, I do have a PCI Matrox card around here somewhere...`
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`16:14.10`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: �50 + beer for the lot? I'm passing through London on Friday, so could nip up to Hendon and pick it up. Or pre-Gllug, if it'd be more convenient`
`16:14.23`	`z00dax`	`with some luck, it might even be a 400 series!`
`16:14.44`	`rhowe`	`z00dax: I might have an AGP G450 becoming surplus to requirements in a month or two`
`16:14.50`	`rhowe`	`z00dax: G450 dualhead 32M DDR`
`16:15.42`	`cpufreak`	`I have a 4MB S3 Virge DX going spare :p`
`16:15.47`	`z00dax`	`rhowe: cool, I might get that off you as well then. a PCI, however, would be excellent`
`16:16.14`	`LeedsHK`	`particularly, I'm thinking things like the WAP or the xbox are worth a little bit...`
`16:16.30`	`z00dax`	`LeedsHK: got a model number on that WAP?`
`16:17.31`	`z00dax`	`I am loosing track of the million rsync's I've got going at the moment, need to concentrate a bit. be back shortly..`
`16:18.26`	`LeedsHK`	`it's the bog standard 54G WPA`
`16:18.28`	`LeedsHK`	`WAP`
`16:19.50`	`LeedsHK`	`no, you can't run Linux on it`
`16:21.39`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: Or is �50+beer too low?`
`16:21.56`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: for what?`
`16:22.56`	`wethrin`	`xbox, blank tapes, phone extension (I presume it's just cable+socket?), ipod car charger, WAP`
`16:24.16`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: ping?`
`16:26.16`	`Leeds`	`wethrin: the phone extension has a plug on one end and a socket on both, I think`
`16:26.42`	`wethrin`	`Right.`
`16:26.59`	`wethrin`	`It'd be useful for me`
`16:27.27`	`Leeds`	`yeah, that's what it is...`
`16:27.51`	`Leeds`	`would still prefer if you could pickup the xbox - and I suppose the rest, if you could come here`
`16:29.54`	`wethrin`	`How close are you to the nearest tube station?`
`16:30.24`	`Leeds`	`about 25 minutes on foot - not close at all`
`16:30.47`	`wethrin`	`Oh.....ADSL->ethernet modem could be useful - is it just a one-ethernet thing, or a built-in switch?`
`16:30.52`	`wethrin`	`Leeds: bus?`
`16:31.11`	`Leeds`	`1->1`
`16:31.44`	`Leeds`	`there are busses, but they're not that frequent`
`16:31.56`	`Leeds`	`I suppose for 50+beer I could schlep the xbox :-)`
`16:32.00`	`wethrin`	`Hm....could I put that on the list too?`
`16:32.05`	`wethrin`	`hurrah :)`
`16:32.07`	`Leeds`	`email me...`
`16:32.23`	`wethrin`	`richard - at - vmlinuz ?`
`16:32.34`	`Leeds`	`yup`
`16:32.45`	`Leeds`	`well, almost anything at that domain will get to me`
`16:33.11`	`wethrin`	`Eeexcelllent`
`16:33.33`	`wethrin`	`BTW, there's a not-quite-mini-LBW at the Cittie of York in Holborn on Friday, if you're up for it`
`16:41.03`	`cbz`	`LBW?`
`16:41.12`	`wethrin`	`Linux Bier Wanderung`
`16:41.24`	`wethrin`	`Right. Hometime!`
`16:41.33`	`CliveHills`	`without mountains I assume`
`16:42.07`	`wethrin`	`In this case`
`16:42.22`	`CliveHills`	`There being few near the Citte`
`16:42.53`	`wethrin`	`indeed. This centres on the second word :)`
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`16:59.52`	`JohnDoe666`	`wethrin: already had enough of that middle word yesterday with GeekLawyer and DrHyde..`
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`17:28.36`	`cbz`	`gah`
`17:35.40`	`cbz`	`In ruby a method can't access a variable defined in the enclosing scope?`
`17:52.33`	`keithlard`	`i don't think so, unless it's global`
`17:54.11`	`keithlard`	`variables are local by default`
`17:57.51`	`mozrat`	`keef!`
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`18:01.59`	`murb`	`JohnDoe666: lots of cidar?`
`18:02.53`	`JohnDoe666`	`not for me..`
`18:03.57`	`JohnDoe666`	`but with the first beer for lunch and the nice sun afterwards..`
`18:08.40`	`cbz`	`ta keith`
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`19:53.28`	`wethrin`	`hello`
`19:59.39`	`mozrat`	`Hello`
`19:59.49`	`mozrat`	`wethrin: sanity check me please...`
`19:59.59`	`wethrin`	`You're insane`
`20:00.02`	`mozrat`	`Section "Device" BoardName "Radeon LW" BusID "1:0:0" Driver "radeon" Identifier "Device[0]" Screen 0 VendorName "ATI"`
`20:00.05`	`mozrat`	`EndSection`
`20:00.16`	`mozrat`	`thats the open source module correct?`
`20:03.28`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: Yeah, I think fglrx or something is the non-free one`
`20:04.24`	`mozrat`	`rhowe: thanks`
`20:04.59`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: It's the one I run at work, although I'm not quite sure whether or not it supports much in the way of acceleration on the chip in my desktop`
`20:05.18`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: I suspect not, but I haven't even worked out what name it knows my chipset by :P`
`20:06.40`	`mozrat`	`rhowe: fsfe is asking someon based in London to go to a parliamentary consulation.`
`20:06.46`	`mozrat`	`MS will be demoing Vista`
`20:07.04`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: Hm.. seems fun`
`20:07.11`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: Gonna go along with xgl? :)`
`20:07.30`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: That's the kind of thing that some decent GNOME or KDE hacker should go ot`
`20:07.40`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: Maybe we could invite ac down?`
`20:08.05`	`mozrat`	`Could do indeed`
`20:08.16`	`rhowe`	`Although his schedule might be busy. When is it?`
`20:08.26`	`mozrat`	`mid-October`
`20:08.49`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: Hmm.. I wonder if I can find the IRC channel he hangs around on again... :)`
`20:09.12`	`rhowe`	`What's the consultation about?`
`20:10.08`	`mozrat`	`one sec`
`20:10.49`	`mozrat`	`http://beerandspeech.org/tmp/fsfe.txt`
`20:12.21`	`mozrat`	`ooh`
`20:12.25`	`wethrin`	`Mmm....books`
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`20:13.27`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: is "Vim improved" any good?`
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`20:14.40`	`LeedsHK`	`yes, except that there's a decent-length errata list somewhere, and it covers, I think, vim5`
`20:15.14`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: how much do you want for that?`
`20:16.59`	`LeedsHK`	`a donation, at your discretion, to the Uganda project would do fine :-) also - books probably aren't deliverable, unless someone can get me a parking space for Saturday and, possibly, a way to get home after a beer or 3`
`20:17.20`	`cbz`	`Indeed.`
`20:17.51`	`mozrat`	`LeedsHK: No problem with the donation - I can provide parking on the day in Paddington for free`
`20:17.53`	`cbz`	`There is an article somewhere about how much money they raised. I am pretty sure published in Linux Journal`
`20:18.17`	`LeedsHK`	`I am pretty much up to my limit on things I'm willing to carry on public transport apart from small light things`
`20:18.33`	`cbz`	`wut?`
`20:18.37`	`LeedsHK`	`I should clarify: parking space at the meeting`
`20:18.42`	`cbz`	`Whats happening? Whats going on? What are you carrying?`
`20:19.06`	`LeedsHK`	`oh, do keep up, cbz :-) http://bigboy.vmlinuz.org/moin/StuffToDisposeOf`
`20:19.23`	`cbz`	`bigboy = leeds?`
`20:19.35`	`LeedsHK`	`well, yes, but... :-)`
`20:19.41`	`cbz`	`urm`
`20:19.52`	`cbz`	`I might possibly be there.`
`20:20.00`	`LeedsHK`	`be where?`
`20:20.02`	`cbz`	`(at gllug)`
`20:20.07`	`LeedsHK`	`um, okay, great`
`20:20.49`	`cbz`	`Though I can't offer assistance with carrying stuff ;)`
`20:20.57`	`LeedsHK`	`cbz: vmlinuz.org is my domain. bigboy is my server`
`20:21.24`	`cbz`	`Most people would settle for an unimaginative 'www'`
`20:21.33`	`LeedsHK`	`littleboy is my (offline) mac mini server in HK, and midiboy is my (offline) fileserver in HK`
`20:22.41`	`LeedsHK`	`oh, no... I haven't used www.vmlinuz.org for many years - I tend to use (www.)wanderingjew.co.uk for public stuff, but there's a wiki on bigboy.vmlinuz.org and there isn't one on wanderingjew - which is, of course, just a virtual server on bigboy, which is, of course, just a virtual server :-)`
`20:24.34`	`LeedsHK`	`cbz: anyway, if you want any of my junk, just mail me`
`20:25.00`	`cbz`	`You are a Mizarhim ? (brain working slowly)`
`20:25.22`	`LeedsHK`	`uh, what?`
`20:25.52`	`cbz`	`wanderingjew/Arabic Jew reference earlier`
`20:27.05`	`LeedsHK`	`nah... I'm 3/4 Ashkenazi, 1/4 Sephardi`
`20:27.08`	`LeedsHK`	`are you Jewish?`
`20:27.25`	`cbz`	`Only very slightly.`
`20:27.51`	`LeedsHK`	`what, only on Purim?`
`20:28.08`	`cbz`	`Heh no, 1/8.`
`20:28.54`	`LeedsHK`	`well, fyi - I think you meant to say Mizrachi, which means Eastern, and means the same as Sephardi, which means Spanish, and is pluralised as Mizrachim`
`20:29.52`	`cbz`	`I thought it generally had a more 'of immediate middle eastern origin' connotation.`
`20:30.50`	`LeedsHK`	`it refers to the same people, in general, but there is a feeling that since their families left Spain in 1492, it might be time to stop calling them Spanish :-)`
`20:31.04`	`cbz`	`Heh`
`20:31.44`	`LeedsHK`	`the point is that most of the Jews who left Spain went to Arab lands, so they became the 'Arab Jews' - and of course until 1492, Spain was at least partly an Arab (well, Moorish) country anyway`
`20:32.21`	`LeedsHK`	`so those who went north - which wasn't huge numbers - still feel a lot more Arabic than their northern european cousins`
`20:32.23`	`cbz`	`Well, i guess some of them would claim to have been in the Mahgreb/Middle-East before that.`
`20:32.30`	`cbz`	`Still, i guess everyone is touchy about their origins`
`20:33.00`	`LeedsHK`	`anyway - pick stuff off my list, come collect it, reduce my pile of crap which I don't want to throw away`
`20:33.16`	`cbz`	`We all have piles of crap i suspect ;)`
`20:33.28`	`cbz`	`If i asked for anything it would just add to my own pile of crap`
`20:34.06`	`LeedsHK`	`the point is that some of it might be stuff people could use, and being largely obselete crap, might find hard to get through conventional routes`
`20:34.15`	`cbz`	`At least books I have no use for can be given to the charity shop, computer crap otoh`
`20:34.31`	`cbz`	`I take it by the presence of the cuecat on the list that you now use some other form of barcode reader?`
`20:35.16`	`LeedsHK`	`I never used any barcode reader - I picked them up because they were free and I was in the US on business :-)`
`20:37.47`	`cbz`	`oh okay :) i was thinking the other day that one might be useful to categorise books`
`20:37.48`	`murb`	`i rember giving away a laser barcode scanner`
`20:37.56`	`murb`	`but i think i got it back...`
`20:38.04`	`murb`	`i gave it to a small bookshop..`
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`20:38.39`	`cbz`	`Heh`
`20:39.12`	`cbz`	`I think you promised mozrat your laptop`
`20:39.17`	`cbz`	`I distinctly remember it`
`20:39.17`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: if you want the vim book, you're welcome to it as long as a) you give something to the Ugandans, and b) you collect it`
`20:39.26`	`LeedsHK`	`nah, that's already promised to my dad`
`20:39.30`	`JAV`	`hello`
`20:39.34`	`LeedsHK`	`evening JAV`
`20:39.53`	`cbz`	`TBH the best VI tutorial are those two text files from nvi`
`20:40.02`	`cbz`	`Written by whatsisface`
`20:42.28`	`LeedsHK`	`ibot remind me to take my food out of the oven in 23 minutes`
`20:57.19`	`cbz`	`heh`
`20:59.03`	`mozrat`	`Yay - Diana is back!`
`20:59.21`	`cpufreak`	`Diana who?`
`20:59.24`	`cpufreak`	`Ross?`
`20:59.26`	`cpufreak`	`Spencer?`
`20:59.41`	`mozrat`	`Diana Scott`
`21:00.12`	`mozrat`	`You may not recognise the name straight away but she had a spot of fame on the GLLUG mailing list last year`
`21:00.36`	`cbz`	`A claire squires-esque sort of fame?`
`21:00.42`	`mozrat`	`I think so`
`21:00.46`	`mozrat`	`(who is she?)`
`21:04.35`	`rhowe`	`hm, on those 'anti-terror raids', one person was taken from "a Chinese restaurant in the Borough area of south London"`
`21:04.38`	`rhowe`	`I wonder which one`
`21:05.03`	`rhowe`	`mozrat: Henry's fan :)`
`21:05.45`	`mozrat`	`rhowe: that's her`
`21:11.21`	`rhowe`	`Jeeeeezuss.... What is it with the people who live here and Gnarls Barkley?!`
`21:11.30`	`rhowe`	`The pub must plat it at least once every hour`
`21:11.39`	`rhowe`	`It's like the guy upstairs who plays Sultans of Swing nonstop for hours on end`
`21:11.56`	`wethrin`	`Nothing wrong with the Sultans of Swing`
`21:12.13`	`rhowe`	`wethrin: There is when it's played for 5 hours nonstop`
`21:12.35`	`LeedsHK`	`rhowe: I did see the name of the Chinese place at one point`
`21:12.44`	`rhowe`	`LeedsHK: Loon Fung?`
`21:13.03`	`LeedsHK`	`dunno`
`21:13.52`	`mozrat`	`Looks like our October meeting might be the first night of the Expo`
`21:13.58`	`mozrat`	`Novell might do a Xen talk`
`21:14.26`	`rhowe`	`"Twelve of the suspects were arrested at The Bridge to China Town, a halal eatery in Borough"`
`21:14.33`	`cbz`	`Heh`
`21:14.40`	`cbz`	`Yes, a halal chinese restaurant`
`21:14.56`	`rhowe`	`grr`
`21:15.03`	`rhowe`	`google maps just crashed Firefox`
`21:15.29`	`rhowe`	`hm.. every time`
`21:16.54`	`wethrin`	`rhowe: Point, I suppose`
`21:19.22`	`rhowe`	`streetmap :)`
`21:19.28`	`rhowe`	`simplicity = win :)`
`21:19.45`	`rhowe`	`OK, so the restaurant was at least 10 minutes walk away from here`
`21:25.28`	`LeedsHK`	`don't suppose there are any particularly German-speaking people around?`
`21:25.56`	`antiphase`	`Scheiße`
`21:27.06`	`LeedsHK`	`antiphase: what does that mean? :-)`
`21:27.28`	`antiphase`	`Shit`
`21:28.12`	`LeedsHK`	`is that a no then? :-)`
`21:29.05`	`antiphase`	`I did GCSE German 12 years ago`
`21:29.20`	`LeedsHK`	`yeah, probably not what he's after :-)`
`21:29.22`	`wethrin`	`you want something translated?`
`21:29.25`	`LeedsHK`	`yeah`
`21:29.47`	`wethrin`	`Which way?`
`21:29.53`	`LeedsHK`	`http://www.computerbase.de/forum/showthread.php?t=221603 - info on a beta BIOS for an ASUS board`
`21:29.55`	`LeedsHK`	`German->English`
`21:30.46`	`wethrin`	`LeedsHK: Nip on over to #lbw - there's some native German speakers over there`
`21:30.58`	`wethrin`	`Some may wake up on prodding`
`21:31.38`	`LeedsHK`	`wethrin: want to do me a favour and introduce me?`
`21:31.51`	`LeedsHK`	`while I part from #lwb :-)`
`21:32.06`	`wethrin`	`:)`
`21:34.07`	`LeedsHK`	`mozrat: BTW, you never answered my question above`
`21:35.28`	`mozrat`	`a question?`
`21:36.13`	`mozrat`	`Oh the book? Yes please - unsure how I can get it from you though`
`21:37.15`	`LeedsHK`	`well, that was sort of the question - can you collect it?`
`21:37.55`	`mozrat`	`to be honest. I doubt it. I'm manically busy at work at the moment.`
`21:38.03`	`mozrat`	`how much would postage be?`
`21:38.11`	`mozrat`	`not more than a few shillings right?`
`21:38.54`	`LeedsHK`	`sorry - no posting`
`21:39.09`	`mozrat`	`k, I leave it unfortunatelt`
`21:39.12`	`mozrat`	`y`
`21:39.32`	`mozrat`	`I won't have time to trek up to you in the next few weeks`
`21:39.44`	`LeedsHK`	`sorry - if I start posting I'll end up having to package stuff, buy stamps, get money back, etc. etc. and it's quite a long list...`
`21:39.47`	`mozrat`	`thanks though`
`21:39.55`	`mozrat`	`yeah, I understand`
`21:41.46`	`LeedsHK`	`probably end up storing the books, or giving them to a charity shop or something - I can't bring myself to throw a book in the bin`
`21:41.59`	`mozrat`	`:)`
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`21:45.15`	`Leeds`	`okay, this connection is nice and fast, but has regular dropouts`
`21:45.25`	`wethrin`	`Hmmm`
`22:05.40`	`rhowe`	`on bbc4 atm - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0328258/`
`22:09.36`	`Leeds`	`no bbc4 here :-(`
`22:12.53`	`iTron`	`rhowe: I just put the TV on now. ;)`
`22:14.02`	`rhowe`	`iTron: Not sure I can stick it through for the full 1h55m, but we'll see`
`22:16.58`	`iTron`	`rhowe: Good luck ;)`
`22:17.13`	`rhowe`	`"Our snack food industry is all messed up" - you got that right!`
`22:18.00`	`rhowe`	`pdr: Any chance you can ask Martina if she's heard of Poprad? That's where my friends are planning to go`
`22:21.04`	`mozrat`	`nn all`
`22:22.37`	`iTron`	`mozrat: nnight`
`22:23.18`	`Leeds`	`night`
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`22:59.55`	`Leeds`	`toy story++`
`23:03.35`	`Leeds`	`although slightly odd to see "Screenplay by Joss Whedon" at the start :-)`
`23:22.18`	`z00dax`	`I havent yet found a decent'ish pci vga for my Alpha Workstation/axp`
`23:25.46`	`z00dax`	`or maybe i have`
`23:45.41`	`pdr`	`rhowe: I've been there. Nice place.`
`23:46.19`	`pdr`	`Near to the High Tatras, so I guess they're flying to Poprad and heaing up hill from there?`
`23:51.11`	`pdr`	`Me and Martina watched "The Path to 9/11" tonight, and at the end she asks where the plane that crashed in the field was supposed to target. So I said that I don't think they know or will ever know. So she says "Did they ask Saddam when they caught him?" sigh`
`23:52.04`	`pdr`	`of course when I said that he wasn't even religious she was like "but I saw him on TV when they caught him for terrorism!"`
`23:52.55`	`Leeds`	`ugh`
`23:54.24`	`rhowe`	`pdr: How far from the nearest slopes is it?`
`23:54.51`	`rhowe`	`pdr: I think they're planning to be based in Poprad and head up each day`

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