| 00:05.19 | JAV | hello |
| 00:06.01 | George | wethrin: as do you, kind sir |
| 00:06.46 | wethrin | thanks |
| 00:08.27 | z00dax | the question is : who smells nice and who just 'smells' |
| 00:09.16 | wethrin | Indeed |
| 00:09.20 | wethrin | That's to answer tomorrow |
| 00:09.22 | wethrin | Night all! |
| 00:09.59 | z00dax | wethrin, night |
| 00:11.19 | mozrat | hello z00dax! |
| 00:11.36 | z00dax | hey mozrat howse the Cawfy ? |
| 00:11.55 | mozrat | good good! |
| 00:12.06 | mozrat | it's actually cheese and biscuits atm |
| 00:13.30 | George | hey mozzy |
| 00:13.57 | mozrat | hi george |
| 00:17.26 | mozrat | looking at the map here |
| 00:18.00 | mozrat | what do you suppose i would see if i walked to "Marilyn Monroes subway grating"? |
| 00:31.33 | George | hrmmph |
| 00:31.37 | George | this kernel doesn't have netfilter |
| 00:31.45 | George | so I can't use the vm for tunneling at the moment |
| 00:31.49 | George | as ip masq won't work :( |
| 00:35.43 | mozrat | how can it not have netfilter? |
| 00:35.46 | mozrat | that is pretty standard |
| 00:36.07 | mozrat | catch you all later |
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| 02:16.04 | JAV | good night all |
| 02:16.15 | Kitty | night |
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| 06:44.23 | morsing | 'morning |
| 06:46.53 | murb | urgle |
| 06:52.31 | morsing | Check it! |
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| 07:09.17 | morsing | Where does media players look for codecs, demuxers etc? |
| 07:09.45 | SlayerXP | that's usually a compile time option |
| 07:21.07 | morsing | *sigh* |
| 08:12.31 | morsing | SlayerXP: Can you give me a 'find' command that will point me in the right direction? |
| 08:13.06 | SlayerXP | errm, perhaps |
| 08:13.57 | murb | morsing: find /usr -name rv40.so |
| 08:14.02 | SlayerXP | or perhaps not. I don't have the right OS running |
| 08:14.16 | SlayerXP | strace should give you some ideas those |
| 08:14.18 | SlayerXP | though |
| 08:14.29 | murb | ptrace is easy to detect |
| 08:23.23 | morsing | -bash: ptrace: command not found |
| 08:23.52 | SlayerXP | ptrace is solaris, sin't it? |
| 08:23.55 | SlayerXP | isn't |
| 08:23.56 | murb | morsing: that is just the syscall. |
| 08:24.00 | murb | SlayerXP: truss |
| 08:24.11 | murb | strace is the command under linux. |
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| 08:32.04 | morsing | eye69! |
| 08:32.36 | eye69 | Hey morsing. |
| 08:32.52 | eye69 | I've gotten this remote reset parallel port thing working. |
| 08:34.30 | murb | eye69: how does it work? |
| 08:35.38 | eye69 | http://vserver.13thfloor.at/Remote-Reset/ |
| 08:36.18 | eye69 | I built the PC847 version (controlling 4 machines) and put the resistors and PC847 chip in the DB25 housing. |
| 08:37.10 | eye69 | I currently just have a CAT5 lead going out though...thinking of changing that. |
| 08:38.33 | eye69 | I have pin header males and females so I can keep the reset button on the machines. |
| 08:42.17 | eye69 | Will probably just hang a row of 8 pin sockets off the DB25 housing so I can run a cable to each machine. |
| 08:43.52 | eye69 | This is El Cheapo stuff, but it does the trick for me. An option is to run two cables to each machine, controlling both the reset and powerswitch headers. |
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| 10:29.06 | mozrat | morning |
| 10:32.01 | SlayerXP | it is. |
| 10:33.47 | kbsingh | hey! |
| 10:33.58 | kbsingh | mozrat, i bet its still dark out there... |
| 10:34.12 | mozrat | kbsingh: yes - but I can't sleep anymore |
| 10:34.46 | kbsingh | You are currently using 2701 MB (100%) of your 2701 MB. |
| 10:34.54 | mozrat | no way |
| 10:34.56 | kbsingh | ( so says my gmail.com account ) |
| 10:34.59 | mozrat | are you using gmailfs ? |
| 10:35.02 | kbsingh | nope |
| 10:35.06 | kbsingh | these are all emails |
| 10:35.06 | mozrat | wow |
| 10:35.36 | kbsingh | I did a complete delete of everything in that account on the ..um... 4th Jan 2006 |
| 10:36.03 | mozrat | I'm impresse |
| 10:36.10 | SlayerXP | i've been saving all my personal mail for 5 years or more, I don't have 1gb of mail saved yet |
| 10:36.11 | mozrat | s/sse/ssed/ |
| 10:36.27 | kbsingh | SlayerXP, I have emails from 1995 Dec |
| 10:36.43 | kbsingh | if you ever send me something via email - make sure you mean it and plan to stick with that policy :) |
| 10:36.51 | SlayerXP | but you deleted everything on Jan 4th |
| 10:37.03 | kbsingh | thats @gmail.com |
| 10:38.01 | kbsingh | the @karan.org email is what I've had for these years - and is also the only one that I check all the time |
| 10:38.26 | kbsingh | @gmail.com is for fun, no one emails me there, and no one even knows what the email addy there is |
| 10:39.09 | kbsingh | http://www.karan.org/blog/index.php/2005/09/27/p76 |
| 10:39.22 | kbsingh | thats the reason i get so much 'junk' at gmail |
| 10:41.56 | SlayerXP | i might hit my 1000th greylisted site today |
| 10:42.14 | SlayerXP | up to #904 |
| 10:45.08 | mozrat | kbsingh: surely some people do |
| 10:46.04 | kbsingh | mozrat, no one trying to get in touch with me :) |
| 10:46.26 | kbsingh | mozrat, want 15k CV's from .cn ? |
| 10:47.47 | mozrat | :) |
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| 10:53.02 | itsbruce | Morning |
| 10:53.58 | SlayerXP | it (still) is |
| 10:53.59 | kbsingh | itsbruce! |
| 10:55.45 | SlayerXP | gllug is the second lowest record I have right now |
| 10:55.56 | SlayerXP | records not updated for 7 days get purged |
| 11:02.30 | itsbruce | Record of what? |
| 11:03.40 | SlayerXP | greylist entries |
| 11:07.58 | itsbruce | I have a feeling that greylisting will only be effective for as long as it is not widely implemented |
| 11:08.45 | SlayerXP | greylisting at least doubles the cost of sending spam |
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| 11:09.16 | itsbruce | Which doesn't matter to a spammer who uses spambots. As soon as greylisting is common, spambots will adapt |
| 11:09.37 | SlayerXP | we'll see. |
| 11:09.43 | itsbruce | And then the spam situation will return to normal, only with more noise on the mail systems in general |
| 11:12.01 | wethrin | Morning all |
| 11:12.18 | itsbruce | Not denying that it's effective now. Not that the places I have worked since it became common have been willing to adopt it. Mostly because of the communications lag it creates. |
| 11:14.53 | kbsingh | noone i know, accepts grey listing |
| 11:14.59 | kbsingh | wethrin! |
| 11:15.50 | wethrin | w00t! |
| 11:17.12 | morsing | puckman! |
| 11:19.07 | puckman | morsing! |
| 11:19.48 | kbsingh | in soviet russia, you phuck around with SuSe |
| 11:20.04 | wethrin | Wrong way round |
| 11:20.12 | puckman | You do? Would not know, never been there. |
| 11:20.14 | kbsingh | suse is impotent |
| 11:20.39 | puckman | Suse works with my graphic chip out of the box :P |
| 11:20.48 | kbsingh | and what chip might that be |
| 11:20.58 | puckman | radeon 7000 |
| 11:21.03 | puckman | IBM Thinkpad |
| 11:22.04 | morsing | Check it! |
| 11:22.52 | morsing | Ok all, bought a payg sim card |
| 11:23.03 | wethrin | Yay! |
| 11:23.08 | morsing | This number will work for the next month or so: |
| 11:23.13 | itsbruce | SuSE is a little odd but I prefer it to RH. We use a lot of IBM kit, some of which just has to have a supported OS on it |
| 11:23.15 | wethrin | morsing: Should I delete your old number from my phonebook? |
| 11:23.26 | itsbruce | And until they added SuSE, RH was our only choice. |
| 11:23.41 | morsing | wethrin: Yes |
| 11:23.52 | puckman | I am more of a ubuntu guy but thought it would be handy to learn my way around suse |
| 11:23.53 | morsing | 07757217865 |
| 11:24.02 | morsing | wethrin: Could you text me please? |
| 11:24.21 | wethrin | Just doing so |
| 11:24.26 | wethrin | Sent.. |
| 11:24.32 | SlayerXP | yes, people mistaking email for instant messaging seems common |
| 11:25.10 | wethrin | morsing: Got a signal? |
| 11:25.14 | morsing | ReceivedNo |
| 11:25.15 | SlayerXP | "it delays mail!" "no, it delays the _first_ mail" "it might be important" "people email you when they're on fire?" |
| 11:25.35 | morsing | wethrin: Nothing yet?! |
| 11:25.59 | wethrin | morsing: No. No delivery report |
| 11:26.26 | morsing | Weird |
| 11:26.48 | wethrin | Ahha. Delivered |
| 11:26.49 | morsing | Check it! |
| 11:26.50 | morsing | :-) |
| 11:26.52 | wethrin | Yup |
| 11:26.54 | wethrin | Can you reply? |
| 11:27.25 | puckman | In japan they have never heard of im |
| 11:27.29 | puckman | they all call it email |
| 11:27.39 | morsing | Replied... |
| 11:27.43 | wethrin | Thanks |
| 11:27.57 | puckman | you can txt any phone by sending to number@phone company |
| 11:28.34 | wethrin | Right. |
| 11:28.55 | wethrin | morsing: Ahha. The other message has finally been delivered |
| 11:29.01 | wethrin | puckman: I thought that only works with Orange |
| 11:29.18 | morsing | *083?! |
| 11:29.21 | wethrin | ? |
| 11:29.21 | morsing | Who's that? |
| 11:30.00 | puckman | wethrin: no, all Japanese phone companies work that way |
| 11:30.02 | wethrin | not me |
| 11:30.04 | wethrin | Ahhh |
| 11:30.08 | morsing | Someone else just texted me "Check it!" |
| 11:30.12 | wethrin | Heh |
| 11:30.15 | morsing | Cope? |
| 11:30.22 | wethrin | *883 is me, but I presume you've got me in your phone book |
| 11:30.31 | morsing | Yes |
| 11:30.36 | wethrin | No - Cope is *010 |
| 11:30.59 | morsing | Hmm... |
| 11:51.43 | morsing | Very funny! |
| 11:55.15 | kbsingh | morsing, ? |
| 11:55.31 | SlayerXP | no, SlayerXP |
| 12:02.16 | morsing | kbsingh: Someone here sending weird anonymous texts... |
| 12:02.35 | SlayerXP | it's not me |
| 12:02.57 | kbsingh | elaborate on: anonymous |
| 12:04.13 | mozrat | morsing: how is it anonymous? |
| 12:25.56 | morsing | mozrat! It was you! |
| 12:26.06 | mozrat | not all of them |
| 12:26.15 | mozrat | I was "check it!" man |
| 12:26.16 | morsing | mozrat: Well, the first one didn't have a number |
| 12:26.20 | mozrat | oh |
| 12:26.24 | morsing | mozrat: How did you do that? |
| 12:26.40 | morsing | Are you 083? |
| 12:26.45 | mozrat | morsing: I didn't do anything really - but I am roaming in New York |
| 12:26.57 | mozrat | so maybe it got lost routing back to the UK mobile network |
| 12:27.44 | morsing | mozrat: So you're not 083? |
| 12:28.00 | morsing | The sender number was "_GaWD_" |
| 12:28.37 | mozrat | oh |
| 12:28.42 | mozrat | nothing to do with me :-) |
| 12:30.11 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 12:33.35 | wethrin | morsing: pong |
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| 12:38.31 | mozrat | hello kuesse_ |
| 12:41.19 | JAV | good afternoon |
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| 13:55.57 | mozrat | puckman!! |
| 13:56.03 | mozrat | I'm in my "cube" |
| 14:14.33 | Cope | morsing: hello |
| 14:42.35 | George | hello Copey Cope |
| 14:44.36 | mozrat | hello George |
| 14:50.44 | morsing | ping wethrin |
| 14:50.48 | morsing | Cope! |
| 14:52.33 | wethrin | morsing? |
| 14:53.39 | morsing | wethrin: Is 083 mozzie? |
| 14:55.10 | wethrin | That would be giving the game away :) |
| 14:55.17 | morsing | ibot wake wethrin |
| 14:55.18 | ibot | wethrin: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 14:55.24 | wethrin | MORNING |
| 14:55.47 | SlayerXP | $tzlocaltime $greeting $nick |
| 14:56.50 | mozrat | morsing: ?? |
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| 15:17.16 | ldnblk | afternoon all |
| 15:17.30 | morsing | ldnblk! |
| 15:19.53 | SlayerXP | vwlfr! |
| 15:21.22 | SlayerXP | that's not rot13, that's my compression system |
| 15:22.10 | itsbruce | He said "vowel free" |
| 15:22.12 | mozrat | my god - what kind of fscked up paper sizes does this country use? |
| 15:22.25 | ldnblk | morsing!!! |
| 15:22.55 | itsbruce | Although I doubt that " " is a vowel |
| 15:35.29 | wethrin | mozrat: ISO standard ones |
| 15:43.05 | mozrat | wethrin: oh |
| 15:44.25 | ldnblk | hi mozrat you on holiday now ?? |
| 15:44.39 | mozrat | ldnblk: Not holiday - working abroad for a wekk |
| 15:44.42 | mozrat | week** |
| 15:45.10 | ldnblk | where are you ? |
| 15:45.15 | mozrat | ldnblk: new york |
| 15:45.53 | ldnblk | I don't envy you being there is it cold as here ? |
| 15:46.05 | mozrat | ldnblk: just a little bit colder |
| 15:46.38 | morsing | wethrin: Ha ha - right! |
| 15:48.20 | ldnblk | mozrat:I take it you will be shopping while you are there ? |
| 15:48.55 | mozrat | ldnblk: I dunno - nothing I really need at the moment |
| 15:49.15 | mozrat | I looked at electrical items before I left and it all looked a very similar price to the UK |
| 15:49.27 | morsing | mozrat: They're big in handbags in NY! |
| 15:49.34 | mozrat | and shoes |
| 15:50.53 | ldnblk | mozrat: its a well know fact that europe has a better selection of shoes ! |
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| 16:01.20 | puckman | lol |
| 16:01.23 | puckman | you in a cube? |
| 16:01.26 | puckman | Enjoying it? |
| 16:01.31 | mozrat | no! |
| 16:01.37 | puckman | lies! |
| 16:01.45 | mozrat | no! |
| 16:02.07 | mozrat | for a start - I cannot see a window due to the stupid walls |
| 16:02.07 | puckman | Come and sit here then! Bloody rock music on my right, on my left 2 people are on the phone doing a sales pitch |
| 16:02.28 | puckman | Who wants to see a window? |
| 16:02.39 | puckman | Use a fucking webcam if you want to see whats outside |
| 16:02.51 | puckman | btw, my FON router arrived today ^_^ |
| 16:03.06 | puckman | bloody thing does not have a ADSL modem build in so now I need to get one of those, damn |
| 16:18.16 | George | MATHS IS EVIL |
| 16:23.05 | morsing | George is evil |
| 16:35.57 | kbsingh | is it worrying that when someone said shopping in NYC, morsing came up with handbags ??? |
| 16:36.04 | kbsingh | what kinda geek has first choice = handbags |
| 16:42.58 | puckman | Shoes and handbags.... |
| 16:44.24 | kbsingh | geeks wear shoes, thats awrite. |
| 16:44.31 | kbsingh | geeks do not carry handbags around |
| 16:44.35 | morsing | I do |
| 16:45.09 | Erwin | That's a valise, not a handbag :) |
| 16:47.58 | morsing | Mmm... handbag |
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| 16:54.07 | morsing | stephanb2: Do you own a handbag? |
| 16:54.27 | stephanb2 | morsing: nope |
| 16:54.42 | stephanb2 | morsing: well it depends wot your definition of "handbag" is |
| 16:55.46 | stephanb2 | but i doubt that a laptop size document bag would qualify |
| 16:55.57 | stephanb2 | anyway it's not PRADA ;-) |
| 17:04.08 | itsbruce | Maybe he means a "manbag" |
| 17:10.25 | kbsingh | and just as I am getting ready to go home - it starts raining |
| 17:48.50 | stephanb2 | ok everybody, im off |
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| 17:54.32 | cbz | Eurgh. |
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| 18:58.56 | morsing | Check it! |
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| 19:11.40 | z00-mobile | Hello |
| 19:18.08 | morsing | z00dax! |
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| 19:53.45 | IAmAI | Hello. |
| 20:28.51 | SlayerXP | $tzlocaltime $greeting |
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| 21:14.38 | ldnblk | good evening all |
| 21:26.07 | mozrat | hey IAmAI |
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| 21:43.08 | mozrat | hello angelchild stephanb2 |
| 21:43.18 | angelchild | hi mozrat :) |
| 21:43.26 | mozrat | how are you me dear? |
| 21:43.31 | stephanb2 | hi mozrat angelchild |
| 21:44.14 | stephanb2 | i think im gonna give up installing linux on a usb drive *without* bios usb boot option |
| 21:45.00 | angelchild | I'm good! our group project's going really well o// |
| 21:45.29 | stephanb2 | angelchild: the game developement ? |
| 21:45.49 | angelchild | nah, this is the engineering group project that comprises a module of this semester's work :) |
| 21:45.54 | angelchild | though the games dev is going well too |
| 21:46.03 | angelchild | I get to give a presentation on thursday week :D |
| 21:46.06 | angelchild | it's all kinda cool |
| 21:46.35 | stephanb2 | engineering? like apps for embedded stuff? |
| 21:47.06 | angelchild | nah, software engineering :) |
| 21:47.21 | angelchild | an airport runway obstacle tracker in Java... |
| 21:47.44 | angelchild | there're 6 of us, and five of us are on track for 1sts - we think they messed up their distribution of people slightly |
| 21:48.00 | angelchild | so our group is actually really motivated and good at doing the work |
| 21:48.24 | stephanb2 | what is the input device for the runway tracker? video camera? |
| 21:48.52 | angelchild | it's not anything so complex :) |
| 21:49.09 | angelchild | just display the obstacle on a view of the runway (ie schematic) and some distances |
| 21:50.00 | stephanb2 | so its the design of the gui for the pilot or the controller? |
| 21:51.00 | angelchild | sort of |
| 21:51.08 | angelchild | it's a air traffic control helper |
| 21:51.19 | angelchild | for recalculating distances that planes can take off/land for a blocked runway |
| 21:51.39 | angelchild | basically so they can work out whether or not it's safe/viable to keep the airport open for business while they clear it up |
| 21:52.25 | stephanb2 | oic |
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| 21:59.41 | stephanb2 | angelchild: so ure learning java? |
| 21:59.50 | angelchild | I know Java :) |
| 22:00.49 | stephanb2 | do u use one of them development tools like "eclipse" and stuff ? |
| 22:02.16 | angelchild | aye |
| 22:02.19 | angelchild | I like eclipse |
| 22:02.22 | angelchild | though I could work without it |
| 22:05.45 | stephanb2 | i have 2 get back to do my java tutorial. i have been distracted by this usb booting thing recently. |
| 22:06.22 | stephanb2 | which i should leave on the side for now |
| 22:06.42 | angelchild | hehe :) |
| 22:07.03 | angelchild | when i learned Java it was after hacing programmed in C++ for about 4 years, most of the concepts just transferred straight over |
| 22:16.31 | stephanb2 | ah well i only learnt pascal at uni and then some Perl |
| 22:16.50 | stephanb2 | so i still have to dig all this Oop stuff |
| 22:28.25 | stephanb2 | time to go |
| 22:28.36 | stephanb2 | cu l8r |
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| 22:49.52 | wethrin | Hello everyone! |
| 22:52.28 | angelchild | hi wethrin! :) |
| 22:54.26 | JAV | hi! |
| 22:55.07 | wethrin | People! |