00:23.54 | JAV | think of it as the first part of going bed :) |
00:31.48 | Leeds | gonna be a long day, and gonna end in a different country |
00:32.15 | JAV | colombo, isn't it? |
00:38.05 | JAV | work or pleasure? |
00:39.34 | Leeds | both |
00:40.38 | Leeds | work, but going to a Linux/free/open source software conference this week |
00:41.42 | Leeds | and now I can't unmount a filesystem I want to take with me |
00:42.11 | JAV | try with "exit" |
00:42.33 | JAV | on all open consoles |
00:44.02 | Leeds | managed it by hitting nfsd over the head with a sudo-ed vim :-) |
00:45.07 | JAV | heh |
00:45.51 | Leeds | there are at least two reasons to use an external drive to store one's 'backups' - one reason is that it's by far the easiest way to add storage to a Mac mini, another is so you can just unplug it and take it with when you go abroad :-) |
01:25.32 | JAV | good flight Leeds |
01:25.37 | JAV | bedtime for me |
01:25.43 | JAV | bye! |
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05:42.53 | gregj | to SriLanka ? |
05:49.41 | Leeds | yup |
06:00.50 | new2unix | moin all |
06:30.40 | Leeds | afternoon |
06:33.15 | Leeds | wow, turns out I have a 16.6 bogomip linux-capable thing in my carry-on bag... didn't know you could run Linux on the Apple Airport APs :-) |
07:07.16 | mozrat | zzzZZZzzz |
07:07.20 | mozrat | I am so tired |
07:07.51 | mozrat | I rather suspect I resembled a extra from "Shaun of the Dead" on the tube this morning |
07:08.49 | ufo | morning :) |
07:08.55 | mozrat | hey Marcib |
07:08.59 | mozrat | Marcin** |
07:09.48 | ufo | hey hey |
07:10.07 | ufo | I'm trying to catch you on priv, are you ignoring me ?; ] |
07:10.16 | mozrat | Nope |
07:10.26 | mozrat | :) |
07:10.50 | mozrat | I wonder if you are going to my Bytemark screen session somehow |
07:10.50 | Leeds | mmm... Spaced of the Dead |
07:11.54 | mozrat | I can't see any messages from you ufo |
07:13.50 | mozrat | I went to see "The Bigger Picture" with Graham Norton last night |
07:14.00 | Leeds | any good? |
07:14.05 | mozrat | Ruby Wax is a rude obnoxious lady |
07:14.10 | mozrat | it was quite funny |
07:14.21 | mozrat | but I wasn't a fan of her before and less so now |
07:14.29 | mozrat | they cut her most offensive bits |
07:14.47 | Leeds | her mouth? |
07:15.06 | mozrat | I wish |
07:15.29 | mozrat | she used the "n" word pretty much out of context and people audibly gasped in the audience |
07:16.34 | Leeds | nice |
07:17.01 | mozrat | Jerry Hall and Shane Warne were the other guests |
07:18.00 | Leeds | what is this Bigger Picture... a talk show? |
07:18.16 | mozrat | yes, current affairs |
07:18.25 | mozrat | Apparently is has bad ratings |
07:18.29 | mozrat | s/is/it |
07:22.31 | Leeds | hmm... forecast for tonight: thunderstorms |
07:22.44 | mozrat | ibot seen wh00dini |
07:22.47 | ibot | wh00dini is currently on #gllug (22h 15m 7s). Has said a total of 19 messages. Is idling for 16h 43m 42s |
07:23.19 | mozrat | wh00dini (who is a colleague of mine) lives in Greenwich and had a thunderstorm directly overhead a few nights ago |
07:23.32 | mozrat | he said people were out in the street at 0230 see what the hell was going on |
07:23.42 | mozrat | police racing up and down etc |
07:23.45 | mozrat | it was that loud |
07:24.31 | Leeds | cool |
07:24.43 | Leeds | had a couple of really big storms over Hong Kong this summer |
07:25.31 | mozrat | Is nix from the mailing list also a nick on this channel? |
07:26.25 | Leeds | not that I've ever been aware of |
07:26.51 | mozrat | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_ordered_by_uses_of_the_word_%22fuck%22 |
07:28.58 | mozrat | Hmm, most of my favourite films are on that list |
07:36.35 | Leeds | that's the sort of thing which wins you a Rory |
07:37.24 | mozrat | a rory? |
07:37.42 | Leeds | I bet the south park movie would win the most fucks per minute if you just took the one song :-) |
07:37.44 | Leeds | Rory |
07:40.38 | Leeds | the award for the most gratuitous use of the word fuck in a serious screenplay |
07:41.11 | mozrat | ahh |
07:41.42 | Leeds | which, I now discover, was edited to say Belgium instead of fuck in the American edition! |
07:43.03 | Leeds | during the meanwhilst, apparently petrol prices of 1 pound per litre have been sighted |
07:43.31 | mozrat | not just sighted |
07:43.42 | mozrat | quite a few places are at £1 |
07:43.56 | mozrat | £1.19 around Chelsea |
07:44.08 | mozrat | if you are mad or rich enough to fill your 4x4 there |
07:45.01 | Leeds | 1.19 for unleaded??? |
07:45.08 | mozrat | yes |
07:45.16 | Leeds | fuck |
07:45.16 | mozrat | that was in the Times - I haven't been around there |
07:45.17 | Leeds | :-) |
07:45.19 | mozrat | yes |
07:47.43 | mozrat | I think I filled my rental car up in Dubai for about 400 dirams |
07:47.53 | mozrat | which is about 4-5 quid |
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07:49.35 | Leeds | coals from Newcastle, surely? |
07:51.32 | mozrat | true |
08:13.12 | Cope | morning |
08:13.35 | mozrat | Morning Copester |
08:15.07 | Leeds | afternoon copey |
08:16.24 | Leeds | well, as the well-know saying (almost) goes: screw you guys, I'm going to Sri Lanka |
08:16.51 | Leeds | have a nice Tuesday :-) |
08:20.27 | mozrat | God, Internet Explorer is plain nonsense |
08:20.34 | mozrat | "Trusted Sites" |
08:20.44 | mozrat | Security level for this zone is Medium |
08:20.53 | mozrat | which is second from highest and breaks stuff |
08:21.01 | mozrat | so you set it lower - you trust these sites right |
08:21.15 | mozrat | and it automagically warns you, you can't set it lower |
08:21.26 | mozrat | and sets it back to "medium" which breaks things |
08:24.59 | wethrin | :-) |
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08:27.27 | mozrat | I was trying to get http://www.pocketmod.com/app/index.html working in Firefox with the non-free flash plugin but it seems to be broken |
08:32.52 | eye69 | mozrat: Working here. |
08:33.31 | mozrat | eye69: when I run the flash I think I'm missing blocks of text somehow |
08:33.43 | mozrat | there are drop down lists in a tree but no captions |
08:37.07 | eye69 | I'm using Flash 7.0 r25 plugin |
08:37.17 | eye69 | Firefox 1.0.6 |
08:37.43 | mozrat | I'll try the official Flash plugin instead |
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09:08.15 | formi | hello |
09:08.26 | formi | still some diehards remaining here |
09:08.29 | eye69 | Hi formi |
09:08.50 | George | hi. |
09:09.27 | formi | I have a very newbie question to ask |
09:10.12 | formi | are there public Suse 9.2 RPM repositories? |
09:16.26 | mozrat | hey formi |
09:16.38 | mozrat | formi: yes there are |
09:17.49 | mozrat | ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/9.2/suse |
09:19.01 | mozrat | hmm, can't see many RPM files there though |
09:21.05 | formi | i am just after one package |
09:21.17 | formi | the maradns server |
09:22.26 | formi | I have the first 5 cds, not sure if there is a 6th and it is not there |
09:24.37 | wethrin | formi: rpmfind.net may be of use |
09:27.25 | formi | it wasn't |
09:27.45 | formi | i think i wil have to bite the bullet and compile it |
09:28.21 | wethrin | mm |
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09:30.44 | formi | Leeds: hey long time |
09:31.26 | Leeds | I have never before in my life been required to sign an indemnity form before getting on a plane - because the airline policy is to send tickets only to country of departure, but require a return ticket to be in hand |
09:31.30 | Leeds | formi: hey... how's things? |
09:32.46 | eye69 | Leeds: Having to sign that seems terribly weird. |
09:34.04 | formi | quite boring, funny marketing dept wants to put my pic on the website, I am going to ask for per click royalties |
09:36.06 | Leeds | eye69: Sri Lankan policy is that you must either hold a visa which lets you stay indefinitely, or a return ticket. I have booked a return ticket, but Cathay's site only allows you to provide an address in Sri Lanka for a flight originating in Sri Lanka. Last time I did this, they never even bothered sending the ticket, and I just picked it up at the airport on the way out |
09:37.36 | wethrin | woot. Another week and I can pay off all my debts |
09:37.46 | Leeds | and the woman could not explain to me in any significant way how a confirmed booking actually differed from a piece of paper saying "ticket" |
09:39.27 | Leeds | anyway, I am travelling armed with Slackware CDs and a serious intention of using them :-) |
09:39.46 | wethrin | "Install Slackware on this plane or else..." |
09:40.35 | Leeds | more for use at the factory |
09:40.53 | wethrin | mm |
09:41.01 | eye69 | Slackware? You terrorist! |
09:41.39 | Leeds | it did just strike me that using "armed with and intention of using them" on a public wifi at the airport might not go down well :-) |
09:41.43 | wethrin | :-) |
09:42.00 | eye69 | Leeds: Look behind you! |
09:42.55 | Leeds | eh... Cathay deserve what's coming to them |
09:46.58 | wethrin | Leeds: You? :) |
09:47.24 | Leeds | indeed |
09:48.05 | wethrin | heh |
09:50.20 | Leeds | ibot change 14760 hkd to gbp |
09:50.38 | Leeds | ibot change 106354 lkr to gbp |
09:51.15 | Leeds | and that's why I'm having this trouble - a return from Hong Kong to Sri Lanka costs almost twice as much as one going the other way, for the same dates |
09:58.46 | mozrat | at last! |
10:00.00 | George | hey mozrat |
10:00.21 | mozrat | hey George |
10:02.23 | Leeds | ah well, time to go |
10:08.29 | George | btw, anyone going to be at LWCE next month? |
10:09.22 | mozrat | George: very likely |
10:09.26 | mozrat | infamous George |
10:09.31 | George | likely? |
10:09.34 | George | yay |
10:09.47 | mozrat | George: I may be abroad but if not I'll be there with knobs on |
10:10.03 | George | heh |
10:10.16 | George | I'm just sending an email to the KDE treasurer to get some shirts for aKademy |
10:10.17 | George | er. |
10:10.19 | George | LWCE |
10:13.17 | mozrat | I might even take a day off for it |
10:13.26 | mozrat | rather than just pop down like I normally do |
10:13.30 | wethrin | LWCE sucks, though |
10:13.38 | wethrin | Nothing interesting there any more |
10:14.14 | mozrat | I met mad dog hall there last time - that was interesting |
10:18.02 | wethrin | other than that, though |
10:18.50 | mozrat | Umm - I met George |
10:18.56 | mozrat | that was.... "interesting" |
10:18.58 | wethrin | That's not a good thing :) |
10:19.09 | wethrin | He comes to Gllug very occasionally. But not to the important that |
10:20.41 | George | moo |
10:21.02 | George | I'm universally loved. |
10:22.49 | wethrin | in your own universe? :) |
10:25.51 | mozrat | Gah - I'm doing expenses and missing some receipts |
11:17.41 | mozrat | Stupid gnome |
11:17.52 | mozrat | I can see a file on the desktop I deleted this morning |
11:17.59 | mozrat | and ls ~/Desktop confirms its gone |
11:18.08 | mozrat | but the GUI hasn't picked that up |
11:19.02 | wethrin | Oops |
11:19.04 | wethrin | Is it in the trash? |
11:26.01 | mozrat | Nope |
11:26.12 | mozrat | I'm sure if I log off and back on it will go |
11:29.37 | wethrin | Mm |
12:07.30 | eye69 | http://www.dilbert.com/comics/dilbert/archive/images/dilbert2040697050906.gif |
12:16.25 | George | FOOOD |
12:16.40 | wethrin | FAT |
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13:14.23 | JAV | good afternoon |
13:14.32 | Cope | indeed |
13:15.32 | mozrat | not a good afternoon for one of my IT guys who hasn't backed Exchange up for about a month and he is now sitting on the server room floor with it broken into 2 pieces |
13:16.21 | JAV | ooops |
13:17.01 | mozrat | He's Italian - I can imagine him say "mumma mia" |
13:18.14 | wethrin | oops |
13:30.23 | ufo | nice one, he better than me :] |
13:30.35 | mozrat | heh |
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15:34.36 | mozrat | very quiet in here today |
15:34.41 | wethrin | it is |
15:34.47 | wethrin | George should be back at school, so... |
15:35.02 | mozrat | ahhh, first day of school |
15:35.12 | wethrin | oh yes |
15:35.18 | mozrat | </nostalgia> |
15:35.28 | mozrat | the toilets should be fairly clean when they flush his head then |
15:35.30 | mozrat | good good |
15:36.08 | mozrat | ffs "President Bush says he will personally lead the investigation into "what went wrong" with the Hurricane Katrina relief operation." |
15:36.17 | wethrin | ~change 1 EUR to USD |
15:36.20 | mozrat | well there's an impartial investigation if ever I saw one |
15:36.25 | wethrin | mozrat: His buddies fucked up |
15:37.28 | mozrat | wethrin: I went to the TV show with the tickets from SRO last night |
15:37.33 | mozrat | twas fun |
15:37.50 | wethrin | woohoo! Did you phone them up, or did you order online? |
15:38.58 | mozrat | online |
15:39.18 | wethrin | Hrm. I did, and they didn't send me tickets. And BBC haven't done so the last few times I ordered from them. |
15:39.22 | wethrin | So next time I shall be phoning up |
15:39.48 | George | wethrin: no, I'm at home |
15:39.51 | George | wethrin: fool |
15:40.17 | wethrin | Lazy bastard |
15:47.57 | George | no |
15:48.03 | George | school doesn't start till 9pm |
15:48.04 | wethrin | you are |
15:48.04 | George | fool. |
15:48.06 | wethrin | pff |
15:56.18 | rhowe | haha |
15:56.19 | rhowe | 16:55 < schitzo> so Sarah-- ..... whatcha wearing? |
15:56.19 | rhowe | 16:55 < Sarah--> my last victim |
15:56.24 | wethrin | hehe |
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16:41.52 | mozrat | evening all - I'm off |
16:42.01 | wethrin | bye! |
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18:28.03 | JAV | hello! |
18:37.43 | gregj | anyone knows how can I convince find to print all names escaped, so for instance instead of "[ ]" I will get \"\[\ \]\" |
18:40.12 | Cope | gregj: is that a for instance, or a real example? |
18:41.03 | Cope | what you actually want to do is to escape all escapable characters? yes? |
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18:49.50 | gregj | Cope: for instance |
18:50.01 | gregj | Cope: I have files with spaces in em and brackets |
18:50.05 | gregj | Cope: they need to be escaped |
18:50.35 | Cope | gregj: why - waht are you doing withthem? |
18:53.02 | gregj | I have to give names to command, but command doesn't take --recursive argument |
18:53.05 | gregj | so... |
18:53.31 | gregj | bash escapes automagicaly, but in this case it won,t cos * doesn't work recurseive |
18:53.36 | gregj | at least up to me knowledge |
18:54.37 | Cope | well |
18:54.45 | Cope | the simple answer is: find ... -exec command {} \; |
18:55.48 | Cope | or you could just change all the spaces, etc to underscores with a bash one liner |
18:57.30 | Cope | can you give me a specific example of the command you want to pass the filename to? |
18:57.36 | gregj | this won't do either |
18:57.38 | gregj | but I'll try |
18:58.15 | Cope | gregj: what's the pipeline? ie what do you want to do to the filenames after find produces them? |
18:59.43 | gregj | anyway, -exec will do |
18:59.45 | gregj | but takes ages |
19:00.14 | Cope | you may also hit buffer limits |
19:00.24 | gregj | sure |
19:00.35 | gregj | it's a perl app, so running it on -exec is expensive runtime wise |
19:00.45 | Cope | for sure |
19:00.46 | gregj | just as any interpreted lang, python would be even worse |
19:02.42 | Cope | I was reading about feeding filenames recursively into an array, and using bash's -s option to read, together with the NUL byte to allow for spaces and newlines etc; |
19:02.51 | Cope | sorry -d option |
19:03.02 | gregj | yes, I remember somehing about it |
19:03.07 | gregj | but don't remember how to do it |
19:03.18 | Cope | unset a i |
19:03.41 | Cope | while read -d $'\0' filename; do |
19:03.52 | Cope | something to filename |
19:04.27 | Cope | done <<(find /somewhere -type f -print0) |
19:04.58 | gregj | :] |
19:05.08 | gregj | yeah, -print0, it is gnu extension |
19:05.20 | Cope | not sure if that would be more efficient than -xec |
19:05.29 | Cope | gregj: are you not using a gnu find |
19:08.03 | gregj | I am |
19:08.19 | gregj | but sometimes I use other finds, and I am not so familliar with gnu exts ;) |
19:08.35 | Cope | mmhmm |
19:33.57 | gregj | what is unset a i doing ? |
19:37.13 | gregj | |while read -d $'\0' filename; do gnupod_addsong -m /mnt/other/ done <<(find /home/gj/Music/ -type f -print0) |
19:37.16 | gregj | |-su: syntax error near unexpected token `(' |
19:41.06 | Cope | gregj: unneeded in this case |
19:42.20 | Cope | gregj: the space between the < < is significant |
19:43.38 | Cope | I missed it out in my example |
19:43.49 | Cope | so: |
19:44.02 | Cope | while read -d $'\0' filename; do gnupod_addsong -m /mnt/other/ done < <(find /home/gj/Music/ -type f -print0) |
19:46.33 | gregj | I get > prompt (line has not being ended) |
19:47.50 | gregj | I know nothing about bash scripting.. |
19:50.00 | gregj | while read -d $'\0' filename; do gnupod_addsong -m /mnt/other/ < <(find /home/gj/Music/ -type f -print0) ; done |
19:50.03 | gregj | <PROTECTED> |
20:00.55 | Cope | aren't you missing the actuall filename? |
20:01.33 | Cope | you've fed every filename into an array |
20:01.52 | Cope | then said for every entry in this array... do |
20:02.01 | Cope | do gnupod_addsong -m /mnt/other/ |
20:02.15 | Cope | but not actually supplied the filename |
20:02.54 | Cope | that's a bit like saying for i in `1 seq 9`; do echo; done |
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22:05.27 | Thanatos[1] | anybody here? |
22:06.27 | new2unix | sure. |
22:06.34 | Thanatos[1] | ah! |
22:06.38 | Thanatos[1] | are you in the UK? |
22:06.41 | new2unix | hi. |
22:07.28 | Thanatos[1] | This is an oddball request, but i need the phone number of any autoparts store in the UK. |
22:07.59 | new2unix | none would be open at this hour (23:07hrs) |
22:08.04 | Thanatos[1] | doesnt matter |
22:08.12 | Thanatos[1] | i will call tommorrow |
22:08.39 | Thanatos[1] | during normal business hours, for the timezone of course |
22:11.02 | new2unix | Thanatos: http://directory.google.com/Top/Regional/Europe/United_Kingdom/Business_and_Economy/Motoring/Repair_and_Service/Parts/ |
22:11.28 | Thanatos[1] | thank you. |
22:11.37 | new2unix | There should be a cntact number amongst that list. Havent got any to hand. I do not drive. |
22:11.48 | Thanatos[1] | thanks again |
22:11.59 | Thanatos[1] | i didnt know how to scope the search on google. |
22:13.03 | new2unix | no problem. |
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