| 00:00.01 | rhowe | Yep |
| 00:00.32 | wethrin | Excellent |
| 00:00.32 | wethrin | I'm going to be in Telehouse Monday afternoon |
| 00:00.33 | rhowe | George: Does 'nums' mean anything to you? |
| 00:00.52 | George | I believe that's her name |
| 00:00.57 | rhowe | hmm |
| 00:01.12 | wethrin | So I can probably pass by your work afterwards |
| 00:01.20 | rhowe | That would make it a relatively sane answer to the question 'So who are you?' then :P |
| 00:01.24 | George | rhowe: what's happening? |
| 00:01.26 | rhowe | wethrin: OK |
| 00:01.30 | wethrin | Eeexcelllent |
| 00:01.35 | rhowe | George: It signed out |
| 00:01.51 | wethrin | You're a scary person, rhowe :) |
| 00:01.56 | George | rhowe: hah |
| 00:01.58 | rhowe | I know =) |
| 00:02.29 | wethrin | rhowe: Have you ever racked a Sun Netra server? |
| 00:02.42 | rhowe | wethrin: Never even seen one |
| 00:02.53 | wethrin | Bah |
| 00:02.56 | Leeds | zzzzz.... |
| 00:03.01 | George | nite Leeds |
| 00:03.01 | wethrin | Leeds: Have you? :) |
| 00:03.04 | wethrin | nn Leeds |
| 00:03.07 | Leeds | wethrin: yes |
| 00:03.07 | rhowe | 'night Leeds |
| 00:03.09 | wethrin | Excellent |
| 00:03.18 | wethrin | Could I ask a quick question before you sleep? :) |
| 00:03.21 | Leeds | uh... no |
| 00:03.23 | wethrin | Damn |
| 00:03.25 | George | rhowe: so she just left? how rude of her. :P |
| 00:03.30 | Leeds | seen one, not racked one |
| 00:03.36 | wethrin | Ahh right |
| 00:03.45 | wethrin | Was wondering if just using the ears would be sufficient |
| 00:03.49 | rhowe | George: Yeah |
| 00:03.51 | Leeds | no idea |
| 00:03.55 | wethrin | Fair enough |
| 00:03.57 | George | rhowe: what did you say? :P |
| 00:04.08 | rhowe | George: I'll take her to task on it if I ever see her online again |
| 00:04.25 | George | parse error |
| 00:04.25 | George | WTF |
| 00:04.27 | wethrin | rhowe: We demand a transcript! |
| 00:04.40 | rhowe | wethrin: Effort :P |
| 00:04.52 | rhowe | George: I'll bitch at her about it tomorrow |
| 00:04.55 | George | do you want the msn of a sex-obsessed boy who was with her in the groupchat when I spammed with C++? |
| 00:04.59 | wethrin | Copy+paste |
| 00:05.53 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:05.54 | George | hrmm. |
| 00:05.58 | wethrin | Heheheheh |
| 00:05.58 | Leeds | night all... |
| 00:06.02 | wethrin | nn |
| 00:06.05 | George | nite Leeds |
| 00:06.08 | George | don't break the bed |
| 00:06.23 | George | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.27 | George | I'd just turned 14 :D |
| 00:06.36 | wethrin | Young'un |
| 00:06.45 | George | heh |
| 00:06.56 | George | well, I'd turned 14 about 4 months before hand |
| 00:07.06 | George | and as that's less than half a year, that's "just" |
| 00:07.12 | wethrin | mm |
| 00:07.30 | wethrin | Well, it's a short time compared to compiling a Gentoo system |
| 00:07.35 | George | hrmm |
| 00:08.25 | George | I ought to read this book on symbolics |
| 00:08.31 | George | last time I tried I hit the second page and gave up |
| 00:11.37 | George | Hostname: carbon - OS: Linux 2.6.11.5/x86_64 - CPU: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3500+ (2202.833 MHz) - Processes: 97 - Uptime: 5h 22m - Load Average: 0.72 - Memory Usage: 169.61mb/1001.22mb (16.94%) - Disk Usage: 516.47gb/2000.28gb (25.82%) |
| 00:11.41 | George | :D |
| 00:11.54 | wethrin | 2000GB? |
| 00:12.00 | George | yeah |
| 00:12.07 | wethrin | 2TB? |
| 00:12.11 | George | yeah |
| 00:12.12 | wethrin | That's excessive |
| 00:12.14 | George | nah |
| 00:12.23 | wethrin | Spread across how many disks, and what configuration? |
| 00:12.29 | George | 11 disks |
| 00:12.34 | George | a 120GB boot disk |
| 00:12.35 | wethrin | That's excessive :) |
| 00:12.38 | George | a 200GB scratch disk |
| 00:12.43 | George | 4x200GB RAID5 |
| 00:12.47 | George | 5x300GB RAID5 |
| 00:12.59 | George | and an external 80GB 2.5" disk |
| 00:13.29 | wethrin | Fair enough |
| 00:13.29 | George | it's a cute little system |
| 00:13.35 | wethrin | You have too much money |
| 00:13.42 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/pictures/Desktop/pict0801.jpg |
| 00:13.43 | George | lol |
| 00:13.45 | George | I do? |
| 00:14.10 | George | I thought I had too little |
| 00:14.18 | wethrin | Maybe you do now :) |
| 00:14.30 | George | :P |
| 00:14.53 | George | well, disk space is one of those things you can never have too much of |
| 00:15.04 | George | the next step is to get a dual opteron 252 |
| 00:15.26 | edward | why " an external 80GB 2.5" disk"? |
| 00:15.44 | George | edward: because that got the output to break 2000GB. |
| 00:16.07 | wethrin | You should be breaking 2048, really |
| 00:16.12 | George | hrmmph |
| 00:16.28 | wethrin | I can dig out a 100MB drive for you if you want :) |
| 00:16.35 | George | blah |
| 00:16.40 | George | I have a 200GB sitting somewhere |
| 00:16.45 | George | but I've run out of IDE controllers |
| 00:16.49 | George | and molex power connectors |
| 00:17.03 | wethrin | That's easy - you can get splitters |
| 00:17.09 | George | http://www.gwright.org.uk/images/pictures/Desktop/pict0802.jpg |
| 00:17.13 | George | as you can see in that picture |
| 00:17.19 | George | wethrin: not at 1:12am you bloody can't. |
| 00:17.22 | wethrin | Head down to the computer fairs on Saturday - I picked up a 4-extension |
| 00:17.34 | George | heh |
| 00:17.43 | George | the ones in TCR? |
| 00:17.47 | wethrin | yeah |
| 00:17.55 | George | heh |
| 00:18.03 | George | well, I don't need one |
| 00:18.06 | George | I have enough disk space for now |
| 00:18.09 | George | 1.5TB is just about enough |
| 00:18.20 | edward | what date? |
| 00:18.27 | edward | s/date/data/ ? |
| 00:18.34 | George | not saying |
| 00:18.36 | wethrin | KDE compile temp files |
| 00:18.36 | George | :P |
| 00:18.38 | wethrin | Or porn |
| 00:18.39 | edward | photoshop files? |
| 00:18.39 | rhowe | randy rammers is back online |
| 00:18.41 | George | this channel is logged |
| 00:18.50 | wethrin | No-one ever reads the logs |
| 00:18.53 | George | hah |
| 00:19.01 | George | well, I should think it's pretty obvious |
| 00:19.04 | George | rhowe: oooh |
| 00:19.08 | George | rhowe: annoy annoy annoy |
| 00:19.20 | rhowe | ahahaha |
| 00:19.24 | rhowe | 'asl?' |
| 00:19.38 | edward | you need that much space to store #gllug logs? :-) |
| 00:20.01 | George | rhowe: did you write that or did she? |
| 00:20.05 | George | edward: yeah :P |
| 00:20.15 | rhowe | 'old enough/wtf do you think? I'm called Russell FFS/London' |
| 00:20.22 | rhowe | me :P |
| 00:20.25 | George | ROFL |
| 00:20.39 | wethrin | edward: We're a chatty bunch |
| 00:20.46 | rhowe | hahahaha she said 'me and olly are lesbien(sic) lovers who have run away from china' |
| 00:20.51 | rhowe | So I replied in Cantonese :P |
| 00:20.51 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:21.05 | rhowe | (she started an MSN chat with me, her and someone called 'olly_keal' |
| 00:21.05 | George | oddness. |
| 00:21.19 | George | rhowe: yeah, olly_keal is the gay one |
| 00:21.26 | rhowe | I basically said 'are you dirty-minded?' in Cantonese |
| 00:21.34 | George | hrmm. my right hand monitor isn't working. |
| 00:21.36 | George | rhowe: heh |
| 00:21.40 | George | rhowe: I only understand mandarin |
| 00:21.41 | wethrin | George: Turn it on |
| 00:21.46 | George | wethrin: oh shut up |
| 00:21.56 | wethrin | Well, don't, then, but it'll be your funeral |
| 00:22.16 | George | heh |
| 00:22.22 | George | rhowe: she could well think you're me |
| 00:22.34 | wethrin | George: Is your name Russell? :) |
| 00:22.34 | rhowe | George: ahaha |
| 00:22.39 | rhowe | George: We'll see if I get blocked |
| 00:22.41 | George | rhowe: when I brought on a KDE hacker into the group chat they seemed convinced he was me spawning on another account |
| 00:22.57 | George | well, I use the word "hacker" in the loosest possible sense |
| 00:23.02 | George | he's done less work than me |
| 00:23.05 | George | and that's saying something |
| 00:23.06 | George | :D |
| 00:23.06 | rhowe | George: My MSN nick is 'Russell'. My MSN id is rghowe@hotmail.com and if you search for 'Russell Howe' on Google, you get results |
| 00:23.08 | wethrin | Hum. My phone battery capacity isn't what it used to be |
| 00:23.14 | rhowe | George: Of course, that would require some intelligence... |
| 00:23.17 | George | rhowe: hehe |
| 00:23.28 | wethrin | rhowe: I'm apparently a famous baseball player |
| 00:23.37 | rhowe | wethrin: Cool :) |
| 00:23.56 | wethrin | Yes. Apparently I've been living a lie for the past few years |
| 00:24.03 | George | wethrin: erm, so am I |
| 00:24.04 | rhowe | hmmm |
| 00:24.08 | George | wethrin: from the 19th century |
| 00:24.08 | rhowe | 'Unable to send message' |
| 00:24.12 | rhowe | I wonder if I got blocked :P |
| 00:24.13 | wethrin | heh |
| 00:25.08 | George | ok |
| 00:25.10 | George | on my desktop now |
| 00:25.59 | George | rhowe: any developments? |
| 00:26.24 | rhowe | George: Yeah, silence |
| 00:26.30 | George | haha |
| 00:26.41 | George | transcript! |
| 00:26.50 | George | god we must be REALLY bored |
| 00:26.51 | George | :) |
| 00:27.12 | wethrin | Gah. Dear $openBSD portsmeister, please to be keeping ClamAV up-to-date. Love, Dan |
| 00:27.40 | George | awww, wethrin fancies the OpenBSD ClamAV maintainer |
| 00:27.54 | wethrin | ... |
| 00:28.31 | George | rhowe: so she blocked you? |
| 00:28.38 | rhowe | Nope |
| 00:28.50 | George | she's probably masturbating then |
| 00:28.58 | George | I think that's what she does instead of breathing |
| 00:29.07 | rhowe | She said she wants to know who told me about her, then we can chat |
| 00:29.12 | rhowe | So I said 'I don't know him' |
| 00:29.22 | George | haha, subtlety |
| 00:29.28 | rhowe | So she asked me what your MSN ID was. I said 'I don't know him from MSN, so I don't know' |
| 00:29.31 | rhowe | hehe |
| 00:29.33 | rhowe | She's getting nowhere :P |
| 00:30.10 | wethrin | wouldn't George be something like 'studlykdemonkey@hotmail.com' ? |
| 00:30.33 | rhowe | And she keeps signing out, which doesn't help the conversation flow |
| 00:31.33 | wethrin | Mmm. So quiet in here now |
| 00:32.53 | George | wethrin: I don't have @hotmail.com |
| 00:33.01 | George | rhowe: haha |
| 00:33.15 | George | rhowe: I'm demanding a full transcript :) |
| 00:33.25 | George | wethrin: it's actually msn@gwright.org.uk |
| 00:33.29 | wethrin | How boring :) |
| 00:33.33 | George | yeah :P |
| 00:34.37 | George | wethrin: stop eating them |
| 00:34.59 | wethrin | This one I haven't |
| 00:35.43 | George | rhowe: so, is she pissed off yet? |
| 00:38.46 | rhowe | George: She disconnected again |
| 00:38.59 | rhowe | George: And hasn't signed back on yet |
| 00:39.05 | George | haha |
| 00:39.09 | George | she might have blocked you |
| 00:39.10 | rhowe | George: I can keep a woman intersted, don't you worry :P |
| 00:39.22 | George | not if the woman thinks you're me |
| 00:39.23 | George | :P |
| 00:39.27 | rhowe | Although keeping and underage girl interested is something I don't care so much for :P |
| 00:39.39 | George | I think she might be around 18 |
| 00:39.48 | rhowe | I'll find out |
| 00:39.56 | George | haha |
| 00:39.59 | George | nutter :) |
| 00:40.08 | wethrin | rhowe: Underage is < 16, so you're probably going to be alright |
| 00:40.15 | George | rofl |
| 00:40.29 | George | wethrin has an intimate knowledge of the teenage sex laws. |
| 00:40.53 | wethrin | Um. That 16 is the legal age is common knowledge, not intimate knowledge |
| 00:41.11 | wethrin | Aha. Found my Allen key |
| 00:41.17 | wethrin | It was hiding on a book |
| 00:41.53 | George | hardly hiding :) |
| 00:41.53 | wethrin | Anyway. I sleep now. Night all |
| 00:42.03 | wethrin | You've not seen my room/desk |
| 00:42.04 | wethrin | :) |
| 00:42.29 | George | heh, cya |
| 00:42.39 | wethrin | nn |
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| 07:43.03 | mozrat | Morning |
| 08:10.31 | mozrat | What a wet day outside! Should late July be like this? |
| 08:10.50 | mozrat | I remember school summer holidays being nice and sunny nearly everyday |
| 08:49.31 | Leeds | morning |
| 08:51.34 | mozrat | hey Leeds |
| 09:17.59 | *** join/#gllug Gonzo (~Gonzo@82-45-233-86.cable.ubr03.hari.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 10:13.31 | Leeds | bah, dvla |
| 10:35.39 | Leeds | hmm... http://www.shakykaiser.com/blog/archives/2005/07/27/must-be-fake/ |
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| 10:42.25 | mozrat | the shoe lacing page looks interesting http://www.fieggen.com/shoelace/lacingmethods.htm |
| 10:42.25 | jason_ukfsn | afternoon all |
| 10:42.31 | mozrat | hello jason_ukfsn |
| 10:43.45 | wethrin | hi jason |
| 10:49.43 | eye69 | Three days ago somebody broke into my car and took the stereo. |
| 10:50.16 | eye69 | Last night they were probably thinking "we need a car to go with that stereo", so they took the car too. |
| 10:50.25 | mozrat | shit |
| 10:50.28 | gregj | booo |
| 10:50.29 | gregj | bad |
| 10:50.50 | wethrin | Shit :( |
| 10:51.52 | eye69 | wethrin: Yeah, that's a good word for it. |
| 10:52.12 | wethrin | Mm |
| 10:53.33 | highbury | my girl-friend (at the time) got her car broken into 3 times outside my flat, but they refused to steal the car :-( |
| 10:54.30 | highbury | we were told our bit of London had higher rates than anywhere else in the UK |
| 10:54.37 | eye69 | highbury: Where I live I park at a great big well lit parking lot. At my gf's on the other hand I have no choice but to park in a badly lit, quite small street. |
| 10:55.40 | highbury | sometimes steering locks provide a modicum of dis-incentive |
| 10:59.56 | mozrat | http://www.iamfuckingterrified.com is quite amusing |
| 11:08.14 | highbury | f***ing spam! |
| 11:12.03 | Leeds | eye69: sympathy :-( |
| 11:13.15 | eye69 | Leeds: Thank you. :/ |
| 11:13.32 | Leeds | I've never had a car nicked but I've had a couple of break-ins |
| 11:13.47 | eye69 | nagual had a good idea of what to tell my gf... |
| 11:13.48 | eye69 | 11:03:15 <@nagual> 'honey, my car just got stolen, dont you think its time we did <insertperveersefantasyhere> now, to comfort me?' |
| 11:13.59 | Leeds | heh |
| 11:15.30 | Leeds | I drove a car for months with effectively no lock on the passenger door - someone had tried to get in, failed, but loosened the lock enough that it later fell out... no-one tried to nick it, but I did find friends had invited themselves for a lift by just getting in before I got there |
| 11:16.18 | gregj | :] |
| 11:16.36 | wethrin | heh |
| 11:16.43 | eye69 | Mine had a broken driver door lock. You just had to turn the covering slot to open it. |
| 11:17.11 | eye69 | That's a bit ironic considering they ruined the passenger door lock with a screw driver to nick the stereo. |
| 11:17.12 | Leeds | oops |
| 11:23.22 | gregj | don't they just usually break side window for that ? |
| 11:23.42 | eye69 | They can apparently use a varied approach. |
| 11:25.51 | Leeds | spice of life and all that |
| 11:29.50 | mozrat | Is there no Win32 equivilent of rm -rf foldername/* |
| 11:30.06 | eye69 | deltree ? |
| 11:30.12 | mozrat | which leaves foldername where it is but deletes all subfiles and folders |
| 11:30.22 | mozrat | eye69, I was going to say that , but not on XP apparently |
| 11:30.23 | eye69 | Ahhh. Not that I know of. |
| 11:30.51 | eye69 | Write a jscript for it or something. |
| 11:31.03 | mozrat | thats what someone is asking me to do |
| 11:31.08 | mozrat | write VB code to do it |
| 11:31.12 | eye69 | Ok. |
| 11:31.25 | mozrat | but I'm surprised there is no builtin command |
| 11:31.35 | eye69 | Are you really? |
| 11:31.40 | mozrat | yes |
| 11:31.54 | mozrat | I wonder if the W32 port of rm would do it |
| 11:31.55 | mozrat | :) |
| 11:34.37 | mozrat | yep - rm from UnxUtils works as expected |
| 11:34.38 | mozrat | nice |
| 11:34.43 | eye69 | Neat. |
| 11:44.22 | Leeds | well, looks like Time/Tiny are about to go under... I got my first real PC from Time almost exactly 10 years ago... |
| 11:44.42 | wethrin | I thought Tiny almost went under a few years back anyway |
| 11:45.27 | jason_ukfsn | wethrin: yes but they got bought. Now the new company has died as well. |
| 11:45.37 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 11:45.41 | wethrin | Can't compete with Hell? |
| 11:45.54 | jason_ukfsn | They've laid off almost all staff, shut all shops, all non-execs have resigned the board. |
| 11:46.03 | wethrin | That sucks |
| 11:46.20 | Leeds | and had administrators appointed AFAIK... |
| 11:46.32 | jason_ukfsn | hadn't heard that yet Leeds |
| 11:46.34 | wethrin | Mm |
| 11:47.02 | jason_ukfsn | My local tesco seems to have switched brands for their cheap PCs last year. |
| 11:47.23 | Leeds | hmm... maybe it was "will be appointed" |
| 11:47.32 | jason_ukfsn | They treat them like shit though - I actually photographed a member of staff stading on a box containing a TFT in order to put up a display! |
| 11:54.44 | jason_ukfsn | for those going into london today: http://www.ozzy.co.uk/fun/nottinghill.jpg |
| 11:55.03 | gregj | fuck it's fucking hot in Cracow |
| 11:55.47 | jason_ukfsn | then come back to London |
| 11:56.02 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: I posted that 80 minutes ago! |
| 11:56.10 | Leeds | gregj: not so hot in London... |
| 11:56.27 | jason_ukfsn | that's a long delay for the next one Leeds ! |
| 11:59.01 | gregj | at least it appeared so to me at first glance |
| 11:59.24 | gregj | "or look bit foregin..." that's funny, can only happend in UK |
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| 12:15.47 | jason_ukfsn | hi zachary |
| 12:16.00 | Leeds | afternoon zachary |
| 12:18.02 | zachary | moin/afternoon Jason, Leeds. |
| 12:20.37 | Leeds | oh, way to confuse a mail filter |
| 12:21.10 | Leeds | get useful, commercially-relevent mail from someone whose address is lolita@<domain> - it is her name, but even so |
| 12:21.12 | zachary | jason_ukfsn How's life treating you? |
| 12:25.21 | jason_ukfsn | well enough zachary - and you? |
| 12:25.28 | zachary | she should just go by Lita, and be done with it. |
| 12:26.05 | jason_ukfsn | Leeds: I'd have thought you would have had to abandon most filters now |
| 12:26.26 | jason_ukfsn | either that or start training them again |
| 12:27.45 | zachary | Stuck in conservative hell. People are bitching about belly-dancers here. |
| 12:29.23 | Leeds | jason_ukfsn: got a brand-new set of filters for work mail |
| 12:30.08 | Leeds | to be fair, she is Sri Lankan - it's quite possible she doesn't know the connotations in the western world |
| 12:31.59 | zachary | If my name translated to something that could have a negative connotation, I would go by something else. |
| 12:32.01 | jason_ukfsn | zachary: well you shouldn't be dancing in front of them then |
| 12:32.48 | eye69 | zachary: Hi |
| 12:32.51 | zachary | After I made that post, how did I know you were going to make that response. |
| 12:33.22 | jason_ukfsn | some things just cannot be avoided |
| 12:33.23 | zachary | hey eye69 |
| 12:33.49 | zachary | What's up with your finance page on UKFSN? |
| 12:34.49 | jason_ukfsn | I've restructured things a bit and UKFSN is now a separate company. While I have all the up to date info for the current period I am still trying to get the DSL bills sorted out for the previous company. |
| 12:35.13 | jason_ukfsn | I am thinking of restarting the finance page for the new company and just having a link to the old data. |
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| 13:03.57 | morsing | ibot morsingh |
| 13:04.01 | morsing | ibot morsing |
| 13:04.01 | ibot | it has been said that morsing is a nice and very knowledgeable guy who often buys rounds of beer, or mozrat, or living in a virtual universe where AIX resembles Unix. |
| 13:05.44 | mozrat | mozrat != morsing :) |
| 13:17.37 | George | rhowe: any updates? |
| 13:19.53 | Leeds | ibot mozrat |
| 13:19.53 | ibot | i heard mozrat is a geek, or pissed, or not morsing |
| 13:21.15 | George | ibot george |
| 13:21.15 | ibot | you are, like, gwright@kde.org, a kde lover/developer and a freak/geek |
| 13:21.20 | George | hrmm. |
| 13:22.00 | George | ibot: no, george is gwright@kde.org and a KDE devel |
| 13:22.00 | ibot | George: okay |
| 13:22.05 | George | ibot lock george |
| 13:22.05 | ibot | locking factoid george, George |
| 13:22.10 | George | good. |
| 13:25.45 | mozrat | George: which bits of KDE do you work on? |
| 13:26.01 | George | none |
| 13:26.01 | George | :P |
| 13:26.08 | mozrat | oh |
| 13:26.10 | George | but but but, I have an SVN account |
| 13:26.16 | mozrat | I thought some Latin thing |
| 13:26.19 | George | yeah |
| 13:26.23 | George | I maintain that, and I'm the author |
| 13:26.28 | George | but I tend not to talk about that :D |
| 13:26.34 | mozrat | why? |
| 13:26.40 | George | because it's crap |
| 13:26.54 | mozrat | or in Latin.. crapius |
| 13:26.59 | George | erm |
| 13:27.24 | mozrat | I wasn't mocking! |
| 13:27.34 | mozrat | I was just asking what bits you develop on |
| 13:27.35 | George | that word doesn't exist |
| 13:27.36 | George | fool |
| 13:27.37 | George | :P |
| 13:50.20 | Leeds | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4719833.stm - " Tiny PCs goes into administration" |
| 13:52.27 | jason_ukfsn | yep, it's official and looks like the directors all jumped ship weeks ago which may indicate illegal trading |
| 13:52.41 | jason_ukfsn | Certainly the company knew it was going down and continues to trade. |
| 13:53.22 | jason_ukfsn | Does anyone here have the misfortune to run WinXP? |
| 13:56.24 | JAV | afternoon |
| 13:59.03 | zachary | murble, fess up! We know you are secret MS closet freak! |
| 14:00.34 | zachary | jason_ukfsn what do you need with WinXP? |
| 14:01.15 | murble | jason_ukfsn: trading whilst insolvent? |
| 14:05.33 | morsing | zachary! |
| 14:05.49 | morsing | jason_ukfsn: Did you get my email? |
| 14:06.49 | zachary | Hey morsing! How are things? |
| 14:07.44 | JAV | 34ºC here :P |
| 14:08.01 | murble | 35 here. |
| 14:08.25 | JAV | ouch |
| 14:11.12 | morsing | zachary: Good sort of |
| 14:11.22 | morsing | 19 here |
| 14:11.39 | zachary | murble we're supose to get about the same temp, but a heat index of around 46. |
| 14:11.52 | morsing | Mmm... heat index |
| 14:14.19 | zachary | Could have a bbq just by throwing the meat on the sidewalk. |
| 14:16.53 | gregj | it's 26 here, but nearly no wind, so you could probably do the same thing |
| 14:29.44 | morsing | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:38.06 | murble | zachary: is that like windchill factor? is it lack of wind factor? |
| 14:39.07 | Leeds | someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the Porterhouse is north of the river, right? |
| 14:39.57 | Leeds | making Google Maps rather wrong on the question "how do I get there?" |
| 14:42.47 | morsing | Leeds: Yes it is |
| 14:51.24 | pdr | Leeds: it's on maiden lane, near bedford st, covent garden |
| 14:51.33 | pdr | anyway, had enough of work for today, laterz |
| 14:51.42 | Leeds | pdr: coming this evening? |
| 14:51.52 | Leeds | maybe not... |
| 14:52.10 | morsing | Leeds: Am I not invited? |
| 14:52.21 | Leeds | morsing: are you not on gllug-social? |
| 14:52.25 | wethrin | morsing: You're on the Gllug Social list, are you not? |
| 14:52.42 | morsing | wetrin: Haven't got Internet at the moment |
| 14:52.49 | morsing | Leeds: Same |
| 14:52.56 | wethrin | morsing: But you're online now |
| 14:53.06 | morsing | Not from my own line though |
| 14:53.13 | morsing | Can't read my emails then |
| 14:53.19 | Leeds | wahay! |
| 14:53.23 | morsing | What? |
| 14:53.23 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 14:53.27 | morsing | Leeds? |
| 14:53.33 | morsing | Mmm... Bulldog |
| 14:53.33 | wethrin | morsing: You going to be around on Friday? |
| 14:53.48 | morsing | wethrin: I'm not on my way out |
| 14:54.25 | Leeds | spoke to their sales people instead of customer service, because no-one else will answer the phone - she sent me a cancellation form (just a simple word doc) and put me through to finance... which rang for a couple of minutes, then timed-out |
| 14:54.31 | wethrin | morsing: Excellent. Pub, then! |
| 14:54.37 | Leeds | morsing: 1800-2000 or so at the Porterhouse |
| 14:54.46 | morsing | wethrin: In Aylesbury? |
| 14:54.52 | morsing | Ok |
| 14:55.10 | rhowe | Leeds: I'll be travelling from the City, but shouldn't be too late I guess |
| 14:55.13 | wethrin | morsing: No, London |
| 14:55.41 | morsing | Mmm... London |
| 14:55.42 | Leeds | rhowe: thing is that I've had lots of late nights this week, and I've got lots of stuff to do in the next 28 hours or so before I leave... one of them may well *not* be sleeping... |
| 14:55.54 | murble | Leeds: can you fax them? |
| 14:55.54 | rhowe | Leeds: Same here. I'm pretty shattered |
| 14:56.01 | rhowe | Leeds: Won't be out long. I also have a lack of cash :P |
| 14:56.35 | Leeds | murble: cancelling isn't a problem - the problem is that I changed my cc number in January and they've not taken any payments from me since then - I would have thought they'd be happy to discuss at least that with me... |
| 14:56.39 | mozrat | rhowe, Payday in 48 hours and counting :) |
| 14:56.56 | wethrin | mozrat: Excellent. That means you'll have money to spend on booze! |
| 14:56.59 | rhowe | mozrat: Indeed. Birthday in 8 hours and counting :/ |
| 14:57.17 | wethrin | rhowe: You were born at 3 minutes to midnight? |
| 14:57.17 | Leeds | my birthday next week... |
| 14:57.25 | rhowe | wethrin: No idea :) |
| 14:57.59 | mozrat | wethrin: not so much tonight though |
| 14:58.04 | mozrat | rhowe: congrats :) |
| 14:58.20 | wethrin | mozrat: I'm back in London on Friday. So I'll send a message to the Social list |
| 14:58.40 | mozrat | wethrin: how long for? |
| 14:59.03 | wethrin | An entire week |
| 15:01.45 | rhowe | mozrat: The disparity between birthday and payday is annoying :P |
| 15:03.34 | mozrat | rhowe: I can imagine |
| 15:04.03 | morsing | Is it? |
| 15:04.38 | zachary | murble humidity factor. |
| 15:12.28 | morsing | zachary: Is that how drunk murble is? |
| 15:20.31 | zachary | mosring, I think it would be how annoyed you could make him by disagreement. |
| 15:29.06 | Leeds | fucking arsing bulldog! |
| 15:29.41 | iTron | You're upset. I can tell. |
| 15:34.15 | Leeds | iTron: I owe them money! I want to pay them money! they won't answer the phone, except on their sales line! |
| 15:35.03 | Leeds | so I spoke to a salesman and gave him an ultimatum: I have tried harder than should be necessary to pay them. If they want the money, they should call me in the next 24 hours, or email after that - I will no longer chase them to pay them |
| 15:40.19 | George | hrmm |
| 15:44.45 | Leeds | is it fair to put the following in the "why are you cancelling" part of the form? |
| 15:44.48 | Leeds | "I have no complaints whatsoever about the technical quality of your service, but trying to contact you over the past few days to discuss paying my outstanding bill and then cancelling my service has been such a frustrating experience that I no have no qualms in recommending that my friends/family/colleagues/customers avoid touching you with a very long barge pole." |
| 15:46.00 | Leeds | s/no/now/ where appropriate |
| 15:51.57 | iTron | I see no problem with that. :) |
| 16:07.23 | Leeds | right, that's my ADSL cancelled |
| 16:07.37 | morsing | CONGRATULATIONS! |
| 16:08.22 | George | Leeds: you mean bulldog actually replied? :P |
| 16:09.21 | Leeds | George: nope |
| 16:09.57 | Leeds | I gave up trying to contact their financial or customer service side and just 'got assertive' with sales people instead, on the basis that they actually answer the phone |
| 16:10.48 | Leeds | one of them sent me their cancellation form, another promised to forward a message to the finance people explaining that if they wanted their money, they'd have to call me because I'd had enough of calling them |
| 16:14.27 | Leeds | and now... to the pub |
| 16:14.49 | George | Leeds: best thing to do is to stop paying them |
| 16:15.34 | Leeds | that's the whole point! I've not paid them since last year! |
| 16:16.00 | wethrin | Leeds: Who should I tell that I plan to take hades out of Mailbox next week sometime? |
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| 17:36.31 | Catalyst | so fscking frustrating being able to sort out other people's relationships yet never find one for myself |
| 17:37.45 | George | :( |
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| 17:41.12 | Catalyst | not in the mood |
| 17:41.18 | George | bah |
| 17:41.23 | George | what's wrong? |
| 17:49.12 | Catalyst | me, i think |
| 17:49.29 | George | hrmm |
| 17:49.34 | George | go to sleep then |
| 17:57.45 | George | I'm so bored I'm ordering a million university prospectuses |
| 17:57.47 | wethrin | I have hard drives! |
| 17:57.55 | George | wooyay |
| 17:58.01 | George | a 300GB one arrived here today |
| 18:00.10 | wethrin | :) |
| 18:00.28 | George | but it was for my father, not me |
| 18:07.17 | George | rhowe: 19:07 <kissesplease> you = block and delete |
| 18:07.22 | George | :D |
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| 20:30.20 | rhowe | George: you being George ? |
| 20:30.32 | George | hrmm? |
| 20:30.38 | rhowe | 19:07 < George> rhowe: 19:07 <kissesplease> you = block and delete |
| 20:30.42 | George | yeah |
| 20:30.45 | George | that was randy rammer |
| 20:31.07 | rhowe | I know |
| 20:31.18 | rhowe | So she was blocking and deleting you? Again? |
| 20:31.19 | George | lol |
| 20:31.23 | George | yes |
| 20:31.29 | rhowe | Well done |
| 20:31.36 | rhowe | Seems you have a way with the ladies |
| 20:31.39 | George | I was just saying "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" over and over again to her :D |
| 20:31.48 | rhowe | Ah, she changed her MSN nick |
| 20:32.05 | rhowe | 'Nummage' |
| 20:32.13 | George | rofl |
| 20:32.18 | George | annoy annoy annoy :D |
| 20:33.21 | rhowe | Nummage says: |
| 20:33.22 | rhowe | tel lme who gave u my addy then we can talk |
| 20:33.40 | George | say Reuben |
| 20:34.25 | rhowe | Too late, you are implicated :P |
| 20:34.32 | George | ROFL |
| 20:35.26 | rhowe | Well, less implicated, more told :P |
| 20:35.30 | George | heh |
| 20:35.32 | George | any reply? |
| 20:35.51 | rhowe | Yeah |
| 20:35.59 | rhowe | She said 'well I'm 15. bye' |
| 20:36.03 | George | ROFL |
| 20:37.51 | rhowe | She's gone |
| 20:38.04 | George | hahahaha |
| 20:38.07 | George | she's an idiot :D |
| 20:41.16 | wethrin | Heh |
| 20:44.26 | rhowe | Yeah, only an idiot would give up talking to me :P |
| 20:44.39 | rhowe | mmm, mien |
| 20:44.44 | rhowe | hm, mein |
| 20:44.47 | George | it was only a matter of time... |
| 20:45.01 | rhowe | It seemed to coincide with my mentioning your name |
| 20:45.06 | rhowe | Funny, that |
| 20:45.13 | wethrin | George is always bad news |
| 20:45.19 | rhowe | Yeah |
| 20:45.26 | wethrin | A friend in Edinburgh has even heard about George by reputation |
| 20:45.51 | George | really? |
| 20:45.54 | rhowe | haha |
| 20:45.58 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 20:46.08 | George | who is he? |
| 20:46.16 | George | or she? |
| 20:46.19 | wethrin | He's a CompSci at Durham |
| 20:46.26 | George | name? |
| 20:46.32 | wethrin | Pete Nuttall |
| 20:46.37 | George | never heard of him |
| 20:46.41 | George | how does he know of me? |
| 20:46.47 | wethrin | KDE-related stuff |
| 20:47.04 | George | oh HIM |
| 20:47.12 | George | I think I recognise the name |
| 20:47.38 | George | does he think I'm nuts? |
| 20:47.53 | wethrin | Yes |
| 20:48.03 | George | haha |
| 20:48.10 | George | this amuses me |
| 20:48.48 | wethrin | That he's heard of you? |
| 20:48.52 | George | yeah |
| 20:49.04 | wethrin | Heh |
| 20:52.53 | George | :D |
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| 21:53.55 | wethrin | Leeds! |
| 21:54.00 | wethrin | Leeds: Who should I tell that I plan to take hades out of Mailbox next week sometime? |
| 21:57.47 | Leeds | wethrin: admin@, and mailbox |
| 21:58.14 | Leeds | you do know that admin@ is the official 'support' channel for j-colo, not chatting to me here, right? :-) |
| 21:58.19 | wethrin | admin@j-colo.net? |
| 21:58.21 | wethrin | No, I didn't :) |
| 21:58.31 | wethrin | Well, I know you weren't the official 'support' channel |
| 21:59.02 | Leeds | @lists.j-colo.net |
| 21:59.28 | wethrin | Ahh |
| 21:59.45 | Leeds | it's a mailman thing :-( |
| 22:00.40 | wethrin | Ugh |
| 22:01.23 | Leeds | much caffienated beverage has been purchased |
| 22:02.03 | wethrin | :-) |
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| 22:22.46 | George | income tax of 40% is ridiculous |
| 22:23.10 | wethrin | It should be twice as high! |
| 22:23.42 | murble | George: why? |
| 22:23.52 | George | murble: ...you need to ask??? |
| 22:24.16 | wethrin | murble: I think he has some fantasty of earning that much money |
| 22:24.17 | murble | I used to pay the higher rate, and i didn't think it was unreasonable. |
| 22:24.35 | George | er, ok |
| 22:24.37 | George | you're odd. |
| 22:24.38 | murble | wethrin: which isn't very much. |
| 22:25.06 | murble | George: how else could we afford the NHS and nukes and things? |
| 22:25.19 | George | I don't care for the NHS |
| 22:25.21 | George | I've never used the NHS |
| 22:25.31 | wethrin | mm |
| 22:25.34 | wethrin | You will do |
| 22:25.41 | George | I've never used a hospital. |
| 22:26.57 | murble | then charges George for the market rate for the amulance and emergency treatment. |
| 22:27.02 | wethrin | George: Carry on with the attitude you've got, and you will do |
| 22:27.23 | George | wethrin: erm, ok. |
| 22:27.52 | George | personally, I'd rather earn the extra money and then use that extra money to pay for my own healthcare, but hey, that's just me |
| 22:28.14 | murble | George: so move to a country where you can opt out of the public health care system. |
| 22:28.23 | murble | s/public/state insurance/ |
| 22:28.39 | George | murble: I will :P |
| 22:29.50 | murble | wethrin: see that was easy ;-) |
| 22:29.59 | murble | a George free uk |
| 22:30.17 | wethrin | mm :) |
| 22:30.51 | George | yyeah, but not a george-free world |
| 22:30.52 | George | mwahahahahaha |
| 22:31.12 | wethrin | damn |
| 22:31.18 | rhowe | Can't have everything |
| 22:32.30 | Leeds | if he keeps going the way he is, it'll be a george-free world soon enough |
| 22:33.41 | wethrin | :) |
| 22:34.31 | George | hrmm |
| 22:34.32 | George | thanks. |
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| 22:35.41 | Catalyst | w00t |
| 22:35.43 | Catalyst | my ADSL works again |
| 22:35.51 | wethrin | Yay |
| 22:35.54 | George | oh noes |
| 22:35.57 | George | go away |
| 22:35.58 | Catalyst | dodgy wiring in the house so it's just connected directly into the master socket in the hall |
| 22:36.16 | Catalyst | ..|., George :) |
| 22:36.22 | George | ..|.? |
| 22:36.36 | Leeds | Catalyst: woo |
| 22:36.46 | Catalyst | visualise some knuckles and a finger :P |
| 22:36.55 | George | Catalyst: go away |
| 22:37.24 | Catalyst | trent reznor is such a happy man |
| 22:48.01 | George | hrmm |
| 22:48.03 | George | wooble |
| 22:48.06 | George | DO THE WOOBLE |
| 22:48.08 | George | wooble wooble wooble |
| 22:53.06 | wethrin | Mm. 15MB/sec data transfers aren't too shabby |
| 22:57.07 | George | gige? |
| 22:57.37 | wethrin | Yeah |
| 22:57.46 | George | that sucks |
| 22:58.06 | wethrin | Not really. It's going over firewire in a PC card slot |
| 22:58.21 | George | riighthhhhtttttt.t... |
| 22:58.52 | wethrin | It is |
| 22:59.00 | wethrin | And RAID5 writing isn't so fast |
| 23:01.15 | George | heh |
| 23:01.17 | George | yeah |
| 23:01.23 | George | mine fluctuates between 30 and 60MB/s |
| 23:01.30 | wethrin | Mm |
| 23:01.39 | George | I need to get a PCI-X motherboard |
| 23:01.45 | wethrin | The Powerbook doesn't support jumbo frames |
| 23:01.57 | George | having 5 SATA disks in a RAID-5 on the same PCI controller is nuts |
| 23:02.04 | George | I only get 100MB/s from the RAID |
| 23:02.14 | wethrin | And lots of things contribute to slowdowns |
| 23:02.18 | George | well |
| 23:02.20 | wethrin | Mmm. |
| 23:02.23 | George | my other RAID-5 gets 150MB/s |
| 23:04.46 | wethrin | How does it smell? |
| 23:04.51 | George | lovely |
| 23:04.55 | George | I perfume it every day |
| 23:05.28 | wethrin | Good! |
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| 23:05.51 | George | then I cover it in whipped cream and lick it all off. |
| 23:06.15 | wethrin | Server porn! |
| 23:06.20 | George | no |
| 23:06.22 | George | RAID-5 porn |
| 23:06.24 | George | you weirdo |
| 23:06.25 | wethrin | Mmmm |
| 23:06.29 | George | who the fuck would want server porn? |
| 23:06.31 | George | that's for sick fucks |
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| 23:06.44 | wethrin | www.unixporn.com |
| 23:06.51 | George | wethrin: you scared zachary away |
| 23:07.06 | wethrin | yup |
| 23:08.14 | George | OMG YOU KILLED ZACHARY |
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| 23:08.27 | resudaed | evening all |
| 23:08.43 | wethrin | hi to |
| 23:08.45 | wethrin | +m |
| 23:08.52 | George | resudaed: do you like server porn? |
| 23:09.40 | George | resudaed: or rather, would you prefer to lick whipped cream off a RAID-5 array or look at server porn? |
| 23:11.10 | Leeds | evening resudaed |
| 23:11.19 | George | how about you Leeds? |
| 23:11.31 | George | how the FUCK did we get onto this topic? |
| 23:11.53 | Leeds | prefer porn any day |
| 23:11.53 | wethrin | You started it |
| 23:12.01 | George | hrmm |
| 23:12.04 | George | damn I must be bored. |
| 23:12.17 | wethrin | Yes |
| 23:12.25 | Leeds | George: must be past your bedtime, surely? |
| 23:12.29 | George | shut up |
| 23:12.30 | George | :P |
| 23:12.34 | resudaed | George : why such a question about my private life? |
| 23:12.45 | wethrin | Leeds: It is. But he's irresponsible |
| 23:12.49 | George | resudaed: dude, don't you lick whipped cream off raid-5s in public? |
| 23:13.08 | George | I wish random girls would stop stalking me on MSN |
| 23:13.11 | George | I swear they're freaking me out |
| 23:13.50 | wethrin | They're wasted on you |
| 23:14.16 | George | they're freaky. |
| 23:16.17 | wethrin | As I said, wasted on you |
| 23:16.45 | George | define "wasted" |
| 23:16.54 | George | if they're looking to be insulted, then they've come to the right place. |
| 23:17.52 | wethrin | Wasted. You have willing girls coming at you, and you just go and insult them |
| 23:18.07 | George | ah |
| 23:18.15 | George | THEY'RE FOURTEEN FOR CRYING OUT LOUD |
| 23:18.20 | wethrin | eh |
| 23:18.43 | George | it's freaking me out |
| 23:18.55 | George | and they aren't geeks |
| 23:18.57 | George | which makes things worse |
| 23:19.10 | wethrin | Are you? :) |
| 23:19.16 | George | damn right I am |
| 23:19.16 | Leeds | how do you know they're either 14 or girls? |
| 23:19.21 | George | I have 2620GB of disk space |
| 23:19.30 | George | Leeds: well, I don't. But I'm going by all the leads I have. |
| 23:19.39 | George | Leeds: for all I know they could *gasp* look like you. |
| 23:19.39 | wethrin | That doesn't make you a geek |
| 23:19.43 | George | wethrin: yes it does. Liar. |
| 23:19.47 | wethrin | Doesn't |
| 23:19.52 | wethrin | Do you have a VAX? |
| 23:19.52 | George | wethrin: ok, fine, I have a job as a sysadmin dude |
| 23:20.02 | wethrin | Again, doesn't mean much |
| 23:20.07 | George | I can code. |
| 23:20.10 | Leeds | George: it just makes you someone whose parents give him too much money for tech |
| 23:20.15 | George | if you say debateable I will KILL you |
| 23:20.25 | wethrin | debateable |
| 23:20.30 | George | Leeds: actually, the money I spent on disks was earnt by writing articles. |
| 23:20.46 | Leeds | and the rest of the machine? |
| 23:20.46 | wethrin | You "code" C++. It's a hateful languag |
| 23:20.47 | wethrin | +e |
| 23:20.53 | George | I can code in C |
| 23:20.58 | George | anyway |
| 23:20.59 | wethrin | haha |
| 23:21.01 | George | erm |
| 23:21.08 | George | I have @kde.org |
| 23:21.12 | George | I have a server |
| 23:21.12 | wethrin | So? |
| 23:21.19 | George | I have a KDE SVN account |
| 23:21.20 | wethrin | I have lots of servers |
| 23:21.34 | George | I first compiled a kernel when I was 9 |
| 23:21.34 | George | :D |
| 23:21.40 | wethrin | That doesn't make you a geek. It's the entire mindset, not just having an @kde.org email address |
| 23:21.44 | George | and first edited kernel code when I was 10 |
| 23:22.16 | George | and I don't leave my room |
| 23:22.21 | wethrin | nerd |
| 23:22.22 | George | and I don't take my hands off my keyboard. |
| 23:22.28 | wethrin | geeks go to the pub |
| 23:22.28 | George | and I can type at 120wpm |
| 23:22.33 | wethrin | Secretary! |
| 23:22.37 | George | I DON'T LIKE C2H5OH |
| 23:22.49 | wethrin | Then you're not a geek |
| 23:23.15 | George | remind me to KILL YOU when I next see you |
| 23:23.24 | wethrin | CH3(CHOH)CH3 is useful too |
| 23:23.39 | wethrin | You're just a slashdot-weenie |
| 23:23.45 | George | OH MY GOD |
| 23:23.47 | George | TAKE THAT BACK |
| 23:23.48 | George | NOW |
| 23:23.54 | wethrin | You want hot grits |
| 23:23.58 | George | TAKE THAT BACK |
| 23:24.31 | George | lol |
| 23:24.39 | George | why do all these random freaky stalkers ask me if I'm gay? :) |
| 23:24.51 | wethrin | Because you don't want women |
| 23:24.57 | George | so? |
| 23:25.00 | George | does that mean I'm gay?!?!? |
| 23:25.02 | George | NO! |
| 23:25.04 | George | IT DOESN'T |
| 23:25.20 | wethrin | It could do |
| 23:25.21 | iTron | Yes, it does. :P |
| 23:25.25 | George | No, it doesn't |
| 23:25.29 | George | I'm a freaking machine |
| 23:25.54 | wethrin | a freakshow? |
| 23:25.57 | George | yes |
| 23:25.58 | George | that too |
| 23:28.03 | wethrin | mm |
| 23:28.37 | George | right |
| 23:28.38 | George | there we go |
| 23:28.42 | wethrin | you go? |
| 23:28.45 | George | fontsize changed to 22 and now lying in bed across the room |
| 23:29.58 | wethrin | oh |
| 23:29.59 | wethrin | lazy |
| 23:31.03 | George | :D |
| 23:43.34 | Leeds | um... that's confusing |
| 23:43.57 | Leeds | looking at my online back statement - and the wad of cash I took out today is on there 6 times - 3 as a debit, 3 as a credit |
| 23:44.16 | Leeds | meaning, of course, that it comes out as 0 |
| 23:45.45 | wethrin | Odd |
| 23:48.07 | Leeds | mmm... online service is showing lots of space in upper class on my flight :-) |
| 23:48.56 | wethrin | heh |
| 23:49.58 | Leeds | "The US space agency Nasa has said it is grounding the space shuttle fleet while engineers investigate debris which fell from Discovery during its launch." |
