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00:30.02uriahheepwhen is a final release for debrix hoped to be ready for?
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00:41.27krhjg?
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00:48.54benhMrCooper: hey !
00:49.11MrCooperhey Ben
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00:53.44jgevening krh.
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00:53.47jgyou are up late.
00:53.54jgmorning jamesh.
00:53.55krhjg, yeah
00:54.49krhjg, I read your reply... do you suggest exposing InitButtonClassDeviceStruct and the like to the hotplug daemon?
00:55.07jgsomething like that.
00:55.25jgthen we don't have to teach X about each and every different device that comes along.
00:55.40krhmy idea was that the driver/filter would probe the fd (ioctls) and figure it out itself
00:55.45jgor at least that's the idea (not all good ideas work).
00:56.20krhwith linux input devices, you can use ioctl()'s to find out what kind of events the device support
00:56.27jgSo a new device type might be completely implemented outside of the X server.
00:57.00krhbut you still need the driver in the X server that can convert the events from that device to X events
00:57.19krhor do you see that outside the server as well?
00:58.00jgyeah, that can be outside the X server, in the filter, or in fact, in a different process altogether maybe.  XTest could be used to inject the input events themselves....
00:58.24jg(for example).
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00:59.02krhwouldn't that give latency problems?
00:59.07jgWeather this all hangs together or not, I'm not entirely sure.
00:59.19jgkrh: machines are pretty fast these days.
00:59.38jgif I'm coming over the net, I already have other latency issues I have to deal with.
01:00.03jgin the local case, I'd probably keep it in an evdev filter and avoid the extra process.
01:00.31krhI just don't like the idea of exposing much of the XInput API
01:00.49jgI'll go back and re-read the porting document.
01:01.09jgBTW, I'll be out of the office tomorrow, so don't expect to hear from me again before Thursday.
01:01.15jgbbiab.
01:01.19krhok
01:01.56jameshhi jg
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01:12.53benhFatal server error:
01:12.53benhCannot run in framebuffer mode. Please specify busIDs        for all framebuffer devices
01:13.02benhMrCooper: what changed ?
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01:14.45benhMrCooper: ok, it's trying to use the built-in config (I suppose XF86Config-4 isn't a good name for it :) and that fails
01:22.04benhMrCooper: hrm.... config file generated by Xorg -configure on the r9600 of the g5 using DVI out -> blank screen
01:23.38benhMrCooper: outputs mapping seem correct and DDC did probe the proper monitor and got the right mode though
01:24.11jgjamesh: back from the wilds of au, I gather....
01:24.30benhMrCooper: works with UseFBDev though, may be clock probing shit
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02:45.46Magnus-sweMake install: firefox-0.9.2-source .. neat, its finally installing
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03:13.33malaquiasHi.
03:15.02malaquiasI am looking for help on how desktop-menu-tool from desktop-file-utils can be used to generate a menu from a description file ~/.config/menus/applications.menu.
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