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| 04:29.38 | floele | judas_iscariote? |
| 04:29.50 | judas_iscariote | floele: huh ? |
| 04:29.54 | judas_iscariote | hi ;-) |
| 04:30.11 | floele | hi ;) |
| 04:30.11 | floele | what do you think about the ajax user list dropown? was it useful for you? |
| 04:31.34 | judas_iscariote | I like it.however some people find it annoying.. |
| 04:31.58 | floele | did someone complain? |
| 04:32.02 | judas_iscariote | some prefere a plain old drop and down menu to find users quickly.. |
| 04:33.29 | judas_iscariote | floele: I like the way it is, but may take some time to load with a large userlist... |
| 04:33.49 | judas_iscariote | I think the "user managment" in the control panel do require improvements tough. |
| 04:33.54 | floele | well, that's out of question, we will never have a select with all users in it ;) |
| 04:34.08 | floele | which improvements do you think? |
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| 04:34.25 | floele | I'm primarily interested in the assigned-to stuff, see http://groups.google.com/group/flyspray/browse_thread/thread/dc3e7fe93ef225db?hl=en |
| 04:34.46 | floele | people didn't like the new method that much, neither did I |
| 04:35.29 | floele | so I'm working on user selection now |
| 04:35.32 | floele | brb |
| 04:57.03 | floele | judas_iscariote: so what do you think? |
| 04:58.32 | judas_iscariote | floele: I dont like the popup, unfortunately Im really bad with user interfaces and Cant propose a better way.. |
| 04:58.45 | judas_iscariote | I guess the ajax menu is fine for certain number of users... |
| 04:59.37 | judas_iscariote | after certain number of users the popup may help though. |
| 05:00.48 | floele | this may be, but unfortunately some don't like the current way a lot and I can understand them. I' not really fond of a popup either, but it should weok quite well. what are your objections against a popup? maybe it's behaviour can stll be tweaked with javascript |
| 05:19.18 | floele | I think that if we ever want to provide a good user selection, ajax is just not enough. sometimes you need more than just a more or less arbitrary list of users |
| 05:19.18 | judas_iscariote | browsers has popup blockers.. does it interfers with it ? |
| 05:19.18 | floele | didn't have any problems yet |
| 05:19.19 | judas_iscariote | in genral I disalike popups always.. btw.. how Jira does this ? Mantis ? |
| 05:19.19 | judas_iscariote | maybe use previous research on the area ? |
| 05:19.19 | floele | jira has a user selector (quite like the one I did), mantis has an ajax select |
| 05:19.19 | floele | an ajax select in this case is a select box with a *full* list of users |
| 05:19.19 | floele | but to get this list, you first have to "load" the dropdown |
| 05:19.19 | judas_iscariote | floele: the user selector of jira is with a popup too ? |
| 05:19.20 | floele | yep |
| 05:19.20 | floele | even IE likes the popup ^^ |
| 05:19.20 | judas_iscariote | ;) |
| 05:19.20 | judas_iscariote | well. jira is overfeatured but all the other enterprise BTS are not even near to it, hands down. |
| 05:19.20 | judas_iscariote | it is good for the segment it is targetted. |
| 05:19.20 | floele | we should probably decide on one method of user selection, I hope to get a little more feedback on this |
| 05:19.21 | floele | I don't want people to complain after 1.0 release ;) |
| 05:19.21 | judas_iscariote | yes, maybe alex_c has a better idea ? |
| 05:19.22 | judas_iscariote | we require urgently someone experienced with User interfaces... |
| 05:19.22 | floele | sure, not only that... |
| 05:19.22 | floele | so let's make flyspray better until we get attention ^^ |
| 05:19.22 | judas_iscariote | ok..if someone has other different idea We can discuss it too.. |
| 05:19.22 | judas_iscariote | ;) |
| 05:19.22 | floele | I'm off for now, cul |
| 05:19.22 | judas_iscariote | cya |
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| 06:07.15 | hamZta | 1judas_iscariote: Hi |
| 06:27.21 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: hi |
| 06:27.44 | hamZta | 1judas_iscariote: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1 ;) |
| 06:37.26 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: hheheh |
| 06:37.40 | judas_iscariote | el bug 1 es conocido |
| 06:38.34 | hamZta | 1judas_iscariote: What? :) |
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| 06:52.57 | hamZta | 1judas_iscariote: http://blog.php-security.org/archives/78-Ed-Finkler-discusses-Month-Of-PHP-Bugs.html <--- Shows exactly what you told me some time ago |
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| 08:00.45 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: yup |
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| 09:24.40 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: 09-f9-11-02-9d-74-e3-5b-d8-41-56-c5-63-56-88-c the code to decrypt HD-DVD |
| 09:24.50 | hamZta | 1:D |
| 09:25.01 | judas_iscariote | This "experts" gets their money so easy.. |
| 09:25.06 | hamZta | 1Definitely |
| 09:25.45 | hamZta | 1The same thing happend to the x-box, didn't it? |
| 09:25.53 | judas_iscariote | I wonder if they dont feel embarrassed.. |
| 09:26.06 | hamZta | 1I think they are jobless now ;) |
| 09:26.16 | judas_iscariote | a kid decoded their stuff with one hand... |
| 09:26.25 | hamZta | 1:D |
| 09:28.32 | judas_iscariote | and is a damn stupid hex number.. |
| 09:28.47 | judas_iscariote | "really powerful" and "secure" eh ? |
| 09:28.59 | judas_iscariote | ;) |
| 09:29.20 | hamZta | 1A big hooray for today's security experts! :) |
| 09:31.04 | hamZta | 1My boss is so stupid :/ |
| 09:31.48 | hamZta | He created a requirements specification for the application I'm developing and then puts stuff in there that doesn't even belong to the app |
| 09:32.16 | judas_iscariote | ;( |
| 09:32.59 | hamZta | 1And he awards stuff I developed to the person that worked on that app before! |
| 09:33.25 | hamZta | 1Someone should tell him how to use that grey stuff up in his head. |
| 09:35.06 | hamZta | 1I even wrote my name under the documentation of this thing |
| 09:38.35 | hamZta | 1Oh my god. He calls Zend Studio a source control system. |
| 09:42.16 | judas_iscariote | oO |
| 09:42.17 | judas_iscariote | oO |
| 09:42.18 | judas_iscariote | o |
| 09:42.23 | judas_iscariote | wtf !! |
| 09:42.48 | hamZta | 1He. Is. So. God. Damn. Stupid! |
| 09:43.08 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: heh. the HD:DVD guys will tell "hrmm.. lets' generate a new DVD code..with my super secret script... echo chunk_split(md5(uniqid(mt_rand(), true)), 2, '-'); |
| 09:43.15 | judas_iscariote | :-) |
| 09:43.34 | hamZta | 1I dunno how often I told him that the stuff is called phpdoc :/ |
| 09:43.44 | hamZta | 1Hahaha :D |
| 09:44.45 | judas_iscariote | lol |
| 09:45.33 | judas_iscariote | is so pathetic... |
| 09:45.47 | judas_iscariote | it is a 32 bit hash separated by - |
| 09:45.53 | hamZta | 1:D |
| 09:46.20 | judas_iscariote | and 32 bit hashes has collisions that can be found with fast hardware in a few days bruning CPU cycles.. |
| 09:47.53 | hamZta | 1I don't complain ... I'm glad that someone decoded these DVDs so I can watch them :D |
| 09:48.15 | hamZta | 1I think we should donate the security-guys something ... just to say "thank you" |
| 09:49.18 | judas_iscariote | ;) |
| 09:54.25 | judas_iscariote | echo rtrim(chunk_split(md5(uniqid(mt_rand(), true)), 2, '-'), '-'); exaclty ;-P |
| 09:54.30 | hamZta | 1:D |
| 09:55.17 | judas_iscariote | they have the secret md5 algortihm combined with the ultra secrete mercene twistter random generator.. LOL |
| 09:55.29 | hamZta | Rofl :D |
| 09:56.10 | judas_iscariote | this made my day LOL |
| 09:56.29 | judas_iscariote | the funny thing is the fact they dont learn |
| 09:56.30 | hamZta | 1Haha :D |
| 09:56.52 | judas_iscariote | they spend millions of dollars of crap "secret" keys.. |
| 09:57.14 | hamZta | 1Well, if you sell them, you're my hero :D |
| 09:57.28 | hamZta | 1I wouldn't even know how to crack HD-DVDs to get the key |
| 09:57.47 | judas_iscariote | I wonder if no one advised them about that there is no such thing as 32 bit hex "secret key" |
| 09:58.35 | judas_iscariote | even more when it will be distributed in zilions of discs and eletronical equiment.. |
| 09:58.51 | hamZta | 1They can't stop it anymore |
| 09:58.55 | judas_iscariote | they dont learn, they got CSS cracked in the past |
| 09:59.03 | hamZta | 1Yep :) |
| 09:59.22 | judas_iscariote | someday they will learn they can stop electronic copies, |
| 09:59.52 | judas_iscariote | they will need to move their asses and add more value to their CDs or DVD and people will buy them. |
| 10:00.01 | judas_iscariote | s/can/can't/ |
| 10:00.29 | judas_iscariote | or stop playing the cat and mouse game and join aboard. |
| 10:00.37 | hamZta | 1:D |
| 10:00.38 | hamZta | 1Yes |
| 10:00.40 | hamZta | 1Would be the best |
| 10:00.47 | hamZta | 1They'll always loose |
| 10:00.51 | judas_iscariote | yup |
| 10:00.54 | hamZta | 1Gotta go now ... eat sth |
| 10:00.55 | hamZta | 1Bye! |
| 10:01.08 | judas_iscariote | cya |
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| 10:37.31 | hamZta | 1re |
| 10:38.03 | AlexC_ | ek black text black text |
| 10:38.08 | judas_iscariote | ;) |
| 10:38.23 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: I blogged about it for fun see http://blog.flyspray.org/ |
| 10:38.25 | judas_iscariote | lol |
| 10:38.32 | hamZta | 1;d |
| 10:39.02 | hamZta | 1Haha! |
| 10:39.19 | hamZta | 1That's "owned", I'd say :) |
| 10:39.19 | AlexC_ | hamZta: your text is black again, |
| 10:39.26 | hamZta | Damit. Better? |
| 10:39.30 | AlexC_ | much =D |
| 10:39.32 | hamZta | k. |
| 10:39.40 | Caarrie | hamZta: get a better irc client :P |
| 10:39.45 | AlexC_ | yeah that stuff is front page on Digg |
| 10:39.46 | hamZta | :D |
| 10:39.51 | AlexC_ | well, it's on Digg for the first 4 pages! |
| 10:39.56 | judas_iscariote | yup |
| 10:40.31 | judas_iscariote | lots of noise needed and distribute the code even via DNS queries help |
| 10:40.38 | judas_iscariote | (DNS is distributed ;P ) |
| 10:43.58 | hamZta | http://blog.digg.com/?p=74 <--- Did they put digg down? |
| 10:44.09 | judas_iscariote | this blog software is a fine piece of code, zero trouble.. |
| 10:44.39 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: nope. |
| 10:45.11 | judas_iscariote | but they do send DMCA notices to digg |
| 10:45.20 | judas_iscariote | as dig is based in the USA IIRC |
| 10:45.29 | hamZta | DMCA? |
| 10:46.09 | judas_iscariote | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMCA |
| 10:46.49 | judas_iscariote | a copyright law in the US that forbids publishing information about ways to bypass this protections |
| 11:09.06 | AlexC_ | the "protection" shouldn't exist in the first place |
| 11:09.16 | judas_iscariote | yup |
| 11:15.30 | judas_iscariote | n8 folks |
| 11:15.56 | Caarrie | morning :P |
| 11:16.12 | AlexC_ | gooooooooood morning |
| 11:18.16 | hamZta | morning Caarrie |
| 11:18.20 | hamZta | n8 judas_iscariote |
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| 19:17.39 | Max_Overdrive | OK, i got it back, severely mangled, but ouch |
| 19:18.56 | floele_ | Hi |
| 19:19.02 | Max_Overdrive | hi |
| 19:19.09 | floele_ | Max_Overdrive: what about your problem now? |
| 19:19.16 | floele_ | AlexC_: got my email? |
| 19:19.20 | Max_Overdrive | heh i upgraded to 1.0.0 without backuping |
| 19:19.24 | AlexC_ | good morning, |
| 19:20.00 | Max_Overdrive | so i had to un-upgrade by hand |
| 19:20.00 | AlexC_ | floele_: yes I did thanks, |
| 19:20.00 | AlexC_ | however |
| 19:20.00 | AlexC_ | the templates do not work, |
| 19:20.01 | AlexC_ | www.tangocms.co.uk/bugs |
| 19:20.01 | Caarrie | AlexC_: afternoon :P |
| 19:20.01 | floele_ | AlexC_: they have to be in a different folder now |
| 19:20.10 | AlexC_ | floele_: I have put them in the /themes/earth/template |
| 19:20.22 | floele_ | template+*s* |
| 19:20.37 | AlexC_ | yeah it is, |
| 19:20.42 | floele_ | Max_Overdrive: so all problems are solved? |
| 19:21.06 | Max_Overdrive | well i ended up stripping the product_category,product_version os task_priority fields :( |
| 19:21.14 | Max_Overdrive | but it works now, yes |
| 19:21.17 | floele_ | AlexC_: maybe the theme is not selected in admin toolbox + project manager |
| 19:21.33 | floele_ | Max_Overdrive: stripping? |
| 19:21.42 | AlexC_ | floele_: I've just changed it now (it wasnt right just then) but look at it now, refresh |
| 19:21.46 | AlexC_ | the theme...does sort of work, |
| 19:21.56 | AlexC_ | eg: look at the background and some styled elements |
| 19:22.03 | Max_Overdrive | they all got set to 1 because i couldn't figure out the 1.0.0 re-organization scheme |
| 19:22.48 | floele_ | Max_Overdrive: you#d probably have been better of with finishing the conversion to 1.0 |
| 19:22.49 | Max_Overdrive | i think i can rebuild it using the history task by task |
| 19:23.09 | floele_ | AlexC_: I still see bluey |
| 19:23.21 | Max_Overdrive | only if i knew how to do that and what was misssing |
| 19:23.26 | Max_Overdrive | did i miss a readme? |
| 19:23.39 | Max_Overdrive | I kept all the 1.0.0.0 tables |
| 19:24.09 | floele_ | Max_Overdrive: that's what the upgrader is for. if upgrade does not complete for whatever reason, we have to find out why, fix the problem and complete the upgrade |
| 19:24.52 | Max_Overdrive | do you want a copy of my aborted upgrade database? (i backed THAT up ;) |
| 19:25.16 | floele_ | wouldn't hurt |
| 19:27.02 | floele_ | AlexC_: what was the login data for the BTS? |
| 19:27.08 | Max_Overdrive | dcc or open a bug? |
| 19:27.35 | floele_ | team@flyspray.org |
| 19:28.23 | AlexC_ | floele ah, hold on - doing like 10,000 things at once - I reinstalled the BTS the other night and so the account has gone |
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| 19:35.33 | floele | Max_Overdrive: ok, that's pretty much f****d up |
| 19:35.53 | floele | and since we don't have the original database, I can't tell what has gone wrong |
| 19:36.25 | Max_Overdrive | ya, sorry |
| 19:36.41 | floele | and yes, your data is gone for good ;) |
| 19:37.11 | Max_Overdrive | it was the stupidest reason too, i didn't log in as -uroot and couldn't see the database, so i thought 'well i must be in a different mysql server on the same box' but i couldn't find a different one so i gave up on backing up |
| 19:37.53 | Max_Overdrive | <- usually not that stupid |
| 19:37.54 | floele | well, in most cases it's not neccessary... |
| 19:38.08 | Max_Overdrive | except when upgrading to beta code |
| 19:38.13 | floele | can you remember any error message? |
| 19:38.25 | Max_Overdrive | not during the upgrade |
| 19:38.42 | floele | there should have been one |
| 19:38.51 | floele | and no, it's still alpha code ;) |
| 19:39.00 | Max_Overdrive | even better :) |
| 19:39.32 | Max_Overdrive | it's all installed on an imac using darwin ports so i'm not super familiar with the layout |
| 19:40.32 | Max_Overdrive | anyways i got it working again in 0.9.9.1 and that's good enough for me, i'll just rebuild the tasks from their history when I process each one |
| 19:41.05 | Max_Overdrive | hmm invalid PMarea |
| 19:44.23 | floele | a little more information wouldn't hurt if you want me to help ;) |
| 19:44.45 | Max_Overdrive | i have no idea why it came up so i don't think you can :) |
| 19:44.58 | Max_Overdrive | i'm just going to consider this install a frankenstein and not bother you any more |
| 19:45.49 | floele | make you should make the 0.9.9 upgrader "upgrade" your database to make sure that the DB is complete |
| 19:46.12 | Max_Overdrive | set the version to 0.9.8? |
| 19:46.18 | floele | noo ;) |
| 19:46.26 | floele | change fs_ver in flyspray_prefs to "0.9.9 dev" |
| 19:46.30 | Max_Overdrive | ok |
| 19:46.59 | floele | 0.9.8 would be a more extensive upgrade...probably failing or messing more stuff up |
| 19:47.29 | Max_Overdrive | i figured |
| 19:47.43 | Max_Overdrive | er ya .98 was WRONG |
| 19:50.12 | floele | btw, AlexC_ |
| 19:50.30 | floele | about forms: please do not convert all our <label>s into <h5>s |
| 19:50.45 | floele | labels better suited for forms |
| 19:51.15 | Max_Overdrive | then run /setup/upgrade.php right? |
| 19:51.29 | AlexC_ | hum ok I'll change them |
| 19:52.01 | floele | yes |
| 19:52.34 | Max_Overdrive | ok thanks for all the help |
| 19:52.56 | floele | np |
| 20:01.24 | floele | AlexC_: I guess I kno why the templates don't work ;) |
| 20:01.35 | AlexC_ | floele: whys that? |
| 20:01.53 | floele | the fix for the template path was still lying in my local copy, didn't commit it yet |
| 20:02.03 | floele | should work with 1184 |
| 20:02.22 | AlexC_ | oh right ok, I'll get that when I have moved host ... hopefully soon |
| 20:02.24 | AlexC_ | setting it up now |
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| 21:29.16 | judas_iscariote | ~hi hamZta |
| 21:29.18 | jbot | Many greetings, hamZta, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 21:29.25 | hamZta | Hehe. Hi judas_iscariote |
| 21:31.10 | judas_iscariote | ;-P |
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| 21:31.56 | hamZta | Holy shit, I'm downloading with 300 KB / Sec. Did they finally upgrade my connection? |
| 21:37.40 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: jbot has a good FM https://jbot.dev.java.net/ :-) |
| 21:38.30 | hamZta | :D |
| 21:38.50 | judas_iscariote | jbot: status |
| 21:38.55 | jbot | Since Sat Apr 28 23:50:33 2007, there have been 22 modifications, 373 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 300 commands. I have been awake for 3d 21h 48m 17s this session, and currently reference 112919 factoids. I'm using about 18908 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 12619.67/924.8 child 0.02/0.04 |
| 21:39.04 | hamZta | morons? :D |
| 21:39.23 | judas_iscariote | lol |
| 21:39.25 | hamZta | I don't like java |
| 21:40.05 | judas_iscariote | jbot: ebonify I'm going to the store to buy some cigarettes |
| 21:40.56 | judas_iscariote | hamZta: java is good, however sometimes can be too complex.. I have mixed feelisng about it. |
| 21:41.42 | hamZta | I like the language but not the whole vm-stuff around it |
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