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| 01:57.14 | enhering | hi. |
| 01:58.28 | enhering | anybody here had problems building pppd on familiar tree |
| 01:58.38 | enhering | ? |
| 02:15.53 | enhering | ... |
| 04:09.33 | Matir | is there a good howto on building a cross-compilation environment for familiar? |
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| 04:19.54 | bluelightning | Matir: well, there's some info on the wiki... but for most things Familiar-build is very good |
| 04:20.27 | bluelightning | http://familiar.handhelds.org/build-setup.html |
| 04:20.52 | Matir | thanks |
| 04:21.11 | Matir | usb networking support still seems rather flaky |
| 04:32.17 | Matir | is all of familiar-build needed just to build simple apps? |
| 05:17.46 | bluelightning | Matir: depends what you mean by simple apps |
| 05:18.00 | bluelightning | you can build simple command-line stuff with just a cross-compiler toolchain |
| 05:19.30 | bluelightning | yeah the 2.4 usb-eth driver sucks... hopefully 2.6 for h3600 and we can start to use the proper USB gadget driver |
| 05:20.01 | bluelightning | oops, I meant hopefully 2.6 for h3600 comes along soon |
| 05:21.42 | Matir | it would be nice |
| 05:21.57 | Matir | it usually takes me 2-3 tries to get the iPaq to not get an error |
| 06:02.11 | bluelightning | Matir: with usb-eth it's all about timing, making sure everything is set up at the right time |
| 06:02.34 | bluelightning | for me I have found it easier to just use PPP over serial for the time being |
| 06:04.26 | Matir | ah |
| 06:04.51 | Matir | well, on my notebook i don't have that option... nor do i like to carry a cradle around... the cheap usb cable is much nicer, IMO |
| 06:05.18 | bluelightning | OTOH I did have usb-eth working pretty well with my h3900 a while ago |
| 06:05.44 | bluelightning | I had scripts on the PC to make sure it was all set up, and if it didn't work first time I just unplugged the handheld and plugged it back in and it was usually fine |
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| 09:12.16 | NielsR | Anyone active? |
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| 09:57.04 | bluelightning | NielsR: kind of, yes :) |
| 10:01.05 | NielsR | :) |
| 10:02.18 | NielsR | I tried to install the replacement for the second bootloader (LAB) on my iPAQ H2210. When I boot I only see the LAB-logo, some text, the penguin and "start..." |
| 10:02.51 | NielsR | Nothing is moving and I can't connect using the USB-craddle on ttyUSB0 (which is the serial port that normally works in the rescue bootloader) |
| 10:03.13 | NielsR | I suppose it isn't normal that the bootloader hangs on the screen I described, not? |
| 10:04.11 | NielsR | (I'm not in a hurry to get the answer, because reflashing takes ages using a 1GB CF) |
| 10:28.54 | bluelightning | NielsR: doesn't sound normal, but then I haven't tried LAB yet |
| 10:29.22 | bluelightning | (I have an h2210 myself but I've kept it on WinCE in order to test bluetooth & IR exchange with my other Familiar-based iPAQs) |
| 10:32.03 | NielsR | I've been successful flashing back the original bootloader, so that's fine... |
| 10:32.46 | NielsR | But it takes a long time to "initialize" the CF and before the "Press Power button" message appears |
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| 11:21.27 | NielsR | Grrr... I don't seem to get LAB running properly... |
| 11:23.50 | NielsR | I can flash the LAB onto the iPAQ (H2210) but it always says "Checksum failed" |
| 11:24.16 | NielsR | And when I reset, I only get the splash screen, nothing more... |
| 11:29.12 | NielsR | Question: Is the LAB-solution the only way to fully replace PocketPC with Familiar? |
| 11:29.39 | NielsR | I would like to have an iPAQ that directly boots into Linux and reboots if I do the reboot command... |
| 11:57.43 | goxboxlive | NilesR: are you german? |
| 12:01.59 | NielsR | Nopes |
| 12:02.01 | NielsR | I'm Belgian |
| 12:02.07 | NielsR | .be :D |
| 12:02.16 | NielsR | Sorry, was on the phone |
| 12:02.55 | goxboxlive | :-) Are you able to read german? |
| 12:03.37 | NielsR | Yeah, I understand quite a lot :D |
| 12:03.51 | NielsR | And we still have Babelfish ;) |
| 12:04.01 | goxboxlive | what does this mean: optisch gibt es minimale Abnutzungserscheinungen die aber keineswegs stören. |
| 12:04.45 | NielsR | Wow, can you send me the URL? (I sometimes need to see the context) |
| 12:05.03 | goxboxlive | ok, hold on |
| 12:05.15 | goxboxlive | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Motorola-A780-GPS-Navigations-Handy-2-Akkus-A-780_W0QQitemZ150093063352QQihZ005QQcategoryZ70765QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 12:05.30 | goxboxlive | Is there something i should be aware of? |
| 12:05.54 | NielsR | Wait a sec, give me a minute, because my brother just popped in... |
| 12:06.03 | NielsR | He knows more German than I do :D |
| 12:06.57 | goxboxlive | good |
| 12:11.11 | NielsR | I'm reading now |
| 12:11.11 | goxboxlive | NIlesR: You dont have to translate for me. It has allredy gone higher than i wanted to, so just forget it. Thanks anyway :-) |
| 12:12.15 | NielsR | Ah, ok... I was just starting to translate |
| 12:12.30 | NielsR | In short it just meant that the phone is in excellent condition |
| 12:13.12 | goxboxlive | thank you |
| 12:13.21 | NielsR | goxboxlive: Is your nick related to the IM Client? |
| 12:13.58 | goxboxlive | no? Do you mean on xboxlive ? |
| 12:14.25 | NielsR | No Gox Box |
| 12:15.16 | goxboxlive | Never heard of it. |
| 12:15.24 | NielsR | Are you looking for a new cellphone? |
| 12:16.11 | goxboxlive | Yes, i want a A780 with GPS |
| 12:16.26 | goxboxlive | I have a HTC Universal today, but it is useless as a phone. |
| 12:16.41 | NielsR | Just to use it as is or to modify it with some *nix distro? |
| 12:16.45 | goxboxlive | We have made some kind a linux port to it, but we lack sound support |
| 12:16.57 | goxboxlive | To use it as a main phone |
| 12:17.17 | goxboxlive | the Universal is not relyable phone with Wince on it |
| 12:18.30 | NielsR | And where are you from? |
| 12:19.09 | goxboxlive | I am from Norway, and the A780 has never been released up here so that's why i have to buy it form ebay. |
| 12:19.48 | NielsR | Ok, I see... I'm looking if I can find one in BE/NL |
| 12:20.23 | NielsR | http://cgi.ebay.nl/Motorola-A780-met-GPS-navigatiesysteem-compleet-in-doos_W0QQitemZ130081083395QQihZ003QQcategoryZ9359QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 12:21.18 | NielsR | http://cgi.ebay.nl/Motorola-Navigation-PDA-und-HANDY-A780_W0QQitemZ110092596119QQihZ001QQcategoryZ119595QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 12:21.58 | NielsR | Oh, but I just noticed that this is a phone with Linux on it |
| 12:22.07 | NielsR | Maybe I'll have to buy it ;) |
| 12:22.27 | goxboxlive | yes it is a linux phone |
| 12:22.47 | goxboxlive | i had one a week ago, but it wasent suplied with GPS. I want the GPS version. |
| 12:23.22 | NielsR | The 2 URL's I gave are GPS-versions |
| 12:23.30 | NielsR | What's the max-price? |
| 12:23.42 | goxboxlive | yes i know. |
| 12:23.50 | goxboxlive | the max price i dont know |
| 12:23.52 | goxboxlive | i have an offer |
| 12:24.09 | NielsR | I've found one for a fix price of 150 € |
| 12:24.09 | goxboxlive | an brand new one, for £190 inc shipping |
| 12:24.24 | NielsR | Wow, that's nice |
| 12:24.34 | NielsR | 125 € |
| 12:24.43 | NielsR | But that's all without the shipping |
| 12:25.09 | goxboxlive | Have you found any "buy Now" devices? |
| 12:25.56 | NielsR | No, I'm not looking on eBay anymore... There is not much in Benelux |
| 12:26.11 | NielsR | I've found tons on a site with ads |
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| 12:30.42 | goxboxlive | i c . Well i have decided now, i am buying the new one for £190. Lets just hope i dont get scammed :-) |
| 12:36.19 | NielsR | :D |
| 12:36.31 | NielsR | That's about 280€ |
| 12:36.47 | NielsR | That's half the newprice |
| 12:37.48 | NielsR | I've to go... GF is back in town :p |
| 12:37.53 | NielsR | See you later |
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| 14:13.31 | *** topic/#familiar by reenoo -> The Familiar Project - http://familiar.handhelds.org/ | Also check #handhelds.org if this channel is idle or write to the mailing list http://www.handhelds.org/mailman/listinfo/familiar |
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| 17:34.47 | if | hi all! |
| 17:35.51 | if | can anybody point me wtf should one do with "Argh. No free space left for GC" on / ? |
| 17:36.19 | reenoo | hi if |
| 17:36.36 | reenoo | try deleting files you don't need (if that's still possible) |
| 17:37.34 | if | df -h shows that i have at least 20M of free space there |
| 17:38.07 | if | i can delete some just to free up some space for recovery process, but how do i get that corrupted blocks back? |
| 17:38.31 | if | 20M is a hell a lot to waste on embedded system ;) |
| 17:39.14 | if | an i'm afraid that this might be worse and i'll end up with unused flash ;) |
| 17:40.02 | if | is there some fsck for jffs2 or something? |
| 17:40.19 | reenoo | hmm, odd |
| 17:40.46 | reenoo | no I don't think there's anything like that (but I could be wrong) |
| 17:40.55 | reenoo | bbl (dinner) |
| 17:45.10 | if | heh, i was too optimistic. i can't delete anything -- rm: unable to remove `feed': No space left on device |
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| 18:00.05 | uimp | hi |
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| 20:46.21 | TheX1le | Any one live? I have a formatting issue |
| 20:46.39 | TheX1le | trying to mount sd card and or cf card as ext2 |
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