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| 01:31.00 | Deeno | Hi there |
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| 13:31.55 | sageLin | hi, guys, when ~ release of familiar 0.8.3? |
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| 15:01.46 | _stalker_ | hi there |
| 15:01.55 | _stalker_ | can anyone help with openembedded? |
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| 19:09.55 | Harvy | hi anyone here know why I get a build fail on the org.openembedded.oz354fam083 for pth-2.0.2-r0 |
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| 20:19.33 | marphy | Does anybody know how I can turn off ipv6 on familiar linux v0.8.3_RC1? |
| 20:22.58 | emte | you dont need to "turn it off" |
| 20:23.02 | emte | just dont use it |
| 20:23.41 | marphy | but my router doesn't support ipv6 |
| 20:23.51 | emte | and? |
| 20:24.01 | emte | if you dont use/assign an ipv6 address it wont use it |
| 20:24.29 | emte | you just have support for both ipv4 and ipv6 |
| 20:25.25 | marphy | but if I use konqueror I have to wait ages until it begins to load the page |
| 20:25.42 | emte | i doubt taht has anything to do with ipv6 |
| 20:26.07 | marphy | but what is the problem? |
| 20:26.24 | emte | what deveice and why type of connection/adapter? |
| 20:26.32 | emte | s/why/what |
| 20:27.43 | marphy | ipaq h5450, wireless |
| 20:28.16 | emte | you using WPA? |
| 20:28.25 | marphy | no, wep |
| 20:29.17 | emte | i cant say i get thre geratest performance on my h36 device under wireless either |
| 20:29.19 | emte | the* |
| 20:29.48 | emte | i am not sure if some libraries are missing due to licensing or not |
| 20:30.37 | marphy | it's strange: if I use GPE with the gpe-mini-browser the pages are loaded with normal speed |
| 20:33.22 | emte | knoq is quite a bit larger application |
| 20:33.28 | emte | konq* |
| 20:36.15 | marphy | yes, but it takes much too long |
| 20:37.29 | marphy | I don't think the ipaq is so extremely slow |
| 20:39.10 | emte | i dont like using konq on a full system due ot how slow it seems |
| 20:39.29 | emte | besides having your browser be your filemanager disturbs me |
| 20:39.46 | emte | seems too ie-ish |
| 20:40.26 | emte | but you could ask the konq maintainer about it ... |
| 20:41.12 | marphy | do you think opera would load the pages faster? |
| 20:41.22 | emte | lol |
| 20:41.24 | emte | def not |
| 20:41.34 | marphy | why not? |
| 20:41.34 | emte | you need a smaller browser not larger |
| 20:42.04 | emte | oper and ff would have a much larger footprint i would think |
| 20:42.09 | emte | opera* |
| 20:42.26 | marphy | yes but opera for qtopia is not large |
| 20:43.41 | emte | well opera chews up 91Mb ram on my host system ... then again i've 30 tabs open |
| 20:44.02 | emte | yeah it would probably be decent |
| 20:44.39 | emte | try it and see |
| 20:44.44 | emte | is about all i can suggest |
| 20:48.00 | marphy | I've tried to install it, but it doesn't want to start. |
| 20:48.24 | emte | probably missing a dependancy |
| 20:48.43 | emte | what does it say in your log or when you try to load it from the term? |
| 20:48.54 | marphy | no, the install works |
| 20:49.39 | marphy | but if I try to start the app it prints an error |
| 20:49.57 | emte | ipkg does not always install required runtime libraries |
| 20:50.09 | emte | what is the error? |
| 20:50.33 | marphy | opera: symbol lookup error: opera: undefined symbol: _7QString.shared_null |
| 20:50.56 | emte | :( |
| 20:53.14 | emte | you sure that opera ipkg was for your device? |
| 20:53.37 | emte | tho there are quite a few reasons you cna get that error ... |
| 20:53.46 | marphy | no, it's for qtopia (zaurus) |
| 20:53.59 | emte | and you expected it to work ? |
| 20:54.29 | emte | oz does not have the same libraries as familiar |
| 20:54.58 | marphy | yes because of these instructions: http://www.handhelds.org/hypermail/opie/96/9660.html |
| 20:56.01 | emte | that post is for OZ ... |
| 20:57.29 | marphy | so, there isn't an ipkg which works on opie? |
| 20:58.11 | emte | i am looking right now |
| 20:58.28 | marphy | thanks |
| 20:59.40 | emte | opera is not in "world" probably due to licesning restrictions |
| 20:59.51 | emte | you would have to build it |
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| 21:00.33 | marphy | but it isn't oss |
| 21:00.55 | emte | its not GPL which is why its not in familiar |
| 21:01.17 | emte | that doesnt mean you cannot build it |
| 21:01.17 | marphy | yes, I see |
| 21:01.41 | emte | it means that familiar cannot ship binaries of it without violating it's license |
| 21:03.23 | marphy | ok, but from where I should get the sources? |
| 21:03.56 | marphy | or a binary which works |
| 21:04.12 | emte | i take it you dont know how familiar is built? |
| 21:04.53 | marphy | no, not really |
| 21:05.18 | emte | http://oe.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/GettingStarted |
| 21:16.21 | marphy | in which way should this tutorial help me install opera? |
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| 21:19.58 | emte | it wont, it sets up the build system so you can build opera for your image |
| 21:21.56 | marphy | never mind |
| 21:22.03 | marphy | I have to go now |
| 21:22.09 | marphy | thanks for the help |
| 21:22.16 | emte | not sure i helped much |
| 21:22.17 | marphy | bye |
| 21:22.20 | emte | cya |
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| 22:53.18 | aharpro | i need help with a bootldr error |
| 22:58.29 | aharpro | it says "can't read control file" what should i do? |