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03:43.21g0t_slackis USB networking different with .7? I can't seem to get it working...
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05:40.05`teleci have an linksys WPC11 v4, instant wireless-b pcmcia card, im running familiar linux v0.7 on my ipaq, when i insert the card, nothing happens..nothing at all, any suggestions? is it possible the card uses cardbus, and familiar does not support it?
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08:14.13ociocioanyone know if fam .71 on a 3955 supports external keyboards yet?
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13:34.03damian-damosoftHello! I'm just reading up on putting familiar on my 3870 and I'm asking the question opie or gpe?
13:36.13damian-damosoftI'm thinking more gpe for me
14:03.35damian-damosoftWill any of the applications be able to sync to say Evolution?
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14:16.32clemhello here
14:16.52damian-damosofthello
14:18.01clemwassup? :)
14:18.37damian-damosoftI'm just downloading 1.7.1 and about to put it on my ipaq for the first time
14:22.08clemgreat! but you are sure it's qtopia1.7 that you want to install, and not opie1.0? :)
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15:35.10DrUDgEhello
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15:37.44Pontyhi
15:37.53Pontycan someone help me with opie
15:38.46clemi can try, but i have to take my breakfast too :)
15:38.59Pontyhave u installed opie on ipaq?
15:39.48clemPonty: yes! that was an easy question :)
15:41.41Pontylol
15:41.54Pontyok, well on a website it says i should have stuff installed.. like...
15:42.12Pontymedia player
15:42.17Pontytextedit
15:42.27Pontykonqueror
15:42.29Ponty...
15:42.33Pontybut i dont have any of those
15:44.14Pontyi found mediaplayer at: http://opie.handhelds.org/wiki/index.php/MediaPlayer  but there's no d/l ?
15:44.27DrUDgEanyone know if familiar actually fully works on an IPAQ H1945?
15:46.28clemPonty: wait a minute, i fetch konqueror for you
15:46.48clemPonty: http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/unstable/
15:47.25clemPonty: konqueror exists in this feed, but as you see it means you'll have to upgrade your opie to the 'unstable' version...
15:48.42clemPonty: or if you don't want to install it through `ipkg install konqueror' (that means using the above feed in /etc/ipkg.conf or /etc/ipkg/opie.conf), you may want to download e.g. http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/unstable/konqueror_0.9.3-20030623_arm.ipk and install it via `ipkg install konqueror_0.9.3-20030623_arm.ipk'
15:49.22Pontyunstable opie?  i have version 1.0
15:50.20clemPonty: yes, but konqueror is not maintained enough to put it into opie1.0 official feed
15:50.49clemDrUDgE: if you can understand this page, maybe you'll have some answers here :) http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h1900.html
15:51.54clem(opie feed manager was explaining the konqueror stuff here: http://handhelds.org/hypermail/opie/69/6950.html)
15:52.20Pontythis is all too much
15:52.23DrUDgEclem: i say there was a 1940's page
15:52.34clemPonty: you can search packages through http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/, or do stuff like `ipkg list |grep media' when you need to find something
15:52.39DrUDgEand i couldn't understand ;)
15:52.51DrUDgEclem: http://www.handhelds.org/projects/h1940.html
15:52.54clemPonty: sorry, I tend to give too much information :)
15:52.57DrUDgEdoes this mean "yes" or?
15:53.02Pontyyour info is good
15:53.10Pontyi wish there was a guide to introduce opie
15:53.26Pontywince to linux is a huge jump
15:53.43clemDrUDgE: I think it means : not yet unless you are ready to fix a lot of stuff by yourself :)
15:54.21clemPonty: http://opie.handhelds.org/usermanual/, but I agree it's too incomplete (by the way we have updated the 'installation' page this morning :)
15:54.34Pontyi installed opie ok
15:54.39Pontywith a few minor problems
15:54.54Pontylike i took too long looking at the boot creen and then it booted back into wince
15:55.00clemPonty: and I did not have time, in particular, to explain there how to install konqueror, but googling opie konqueror should work if you are patient :)
15:55.15Pontygoogling?
15:55.27clemgoing to www.google.com :)
15:56.40DrUDgEclem: ah :( now i am sad
15:57.10Pontyim opie'ing a 3660
15:57.21Pontyi didnt want to trash a 5550 :P  besides, it doesnt work on it
15:57.49clemerf sorry
15:59.34clem(i'm trying to introduce 'erf' and 'arf' into english onomatopoeias, since I don't know other ways to express my disappointment :)
15:59.49Pontyclem what apps do u recommend for opie
16:00.12Pontywhy is the opie install so sparse on apps?
16:00.16clemPonty: appart from developing on it I don't use it a lot (!)
16:00.38clemPonty: what do you need to do with it, or the microsoft way, where do you want to go today? :)
16:01.02Pontyi want it to do as much as it can:P
16:01.07Pontybluetooth sync
16:01.10Pontywlan
16:01.24Pontyweb, mail, chat
16:02.20Pontyunless opie has a bug, i cant set it to London time zone!
16:05.47clemPonty: you can see on ipkgfind.handhelds.org that there are some bluetooth-related packages for opie (http://ipkgfind.handhelds.org/result.phtml?query=opie-blue&searchtype=package), or irc clients, etc., but i've not tested them
16:06.03DrUDgE:'(
16:06.12DrUDgElater all, thanks for the help clem
16:07.03clemno pb
16:07.28DrUDgEhopefully it will be supported in the near future
16:07.33clemgood luck with your windows pocket pc ;-]
16:07.35Pontybye drudge
16:08.23Pontythey are all unstable
16:08.25Ponty?
16:08.34Pontyso i have to wait til they are opie 1.0 compatible?
16:12.29clemPonty: no, I can see them in Opie 1.0 feed: http://opie.handhelds.org/feed/ipaq/1.0/
16:12.52clemponty : type the following commands on your ipaq, if it's connected to internet
16:12.55clemipkg update
16:13.02clemipkg list |grep bluetooth
16:13.19clemand you should see what applications are available on the feeds you have configured
16:13.23clemmust go now, sorry
16:13.32Pontyok thanks
16:13.56clemgood luck! :)
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20:26.25TheMikeMhey, anyone here?
20:26.42TheMikeMI've got a bit of a bootloader problem and need some advice
20:27.04TheMikeMtrying to reinstall my origional bootloader (wince/parrot) but no luck yet...
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