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12:35.49phiniteI've got a 3650 ipaq and I would love to put linux on it... where do I start (and yes, I'm already at the website)
12:38.01phiniteto start with, what hardware do I need to get the software TO the ipaq for installation?
12:38.18PaperCutwhat os on your desktop? windows or linux?
12:38.43phiniteeither, have both here, whatever's easiest to do the rest from
12:39.01PaperCutI havent tried to do it from linux, but from w2k it was a walk in the park
12:39.17PaperCutjust make sure you have the unit in the cradle on power
12:39.19phiniteok, well I have xp on this system I'm on now
12:39.36phiniteok, so far so good
12:39.37PaperCutthe only critical part is where you load the new bootloader'
12:40.03PaperCutif you can do that without pulling power, resetting or anything... (took me 15-20 seconds I think) - you can do whatever
12:40.23PaperCutjust make sure you backup your ppc os.. IF you ever want to go back
12:40.38PaperCutthe guide on the site is very thorough and tell you everything to do
12:41.51phiniteahh, I need the serial cable connection eh?
12:42.26phinitereading the install guide now
12:43.34phinitewill have to see if I can find one at work... otherwise they can't be that expensive to buy can they?
12:50.43PaperCutdefinately not
12:50.50PaperCutyou don't have the serial cradle?
12:51.00PaperCutI thought that came standard with the 36xx series
12:52.01phinitethis was given to me to play with from work.  they said if I can get linux on it and use it, have it.
12:52.51phiniteour company was given a bunch of them for testing purposes a while ago and they are just collecting dust for the most part.. so what the heck.  the cradle I have is usb
12:53.08PaperCutI see
12:53.31PaperCutyou will need the serial cradle I'm quite certain. At least for installation
12:53.36phinitepurely just a hobby idea from my pov.
12:54.01phinitehow are the apps for familiar anyway?  
12:54.10PaperCutweel.. I'm not really into the apps
12:54.20PaperCutI'm using my 3630 for wardriving with kismet
12:54.34PaperCutand it's a bit cool to carry your own server around with ya :))
12:55.49phinitewhat is wardriving (and kismet for that matter?)
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13:01.23PaperCut"WarDriving is a collection of information and resources pertaining to the activity of driving around in a car searching and pinpointing the location of wireless networks in metropolitian areas"
13:01.51PaperCutderived from the older wardialling concept (ever seen WarGames from the early 80's?)
13:02.06phiniteyeah, just watched it again last week
13:02.34PaperCutso instead of mapping modems, we are mapping wlans :)
13:02.55phiniteok, so with a wireless card (it has an aircard 300 with it) I can do this also after it's up?
13:05.07PaperCutthe software is somewhat dependent on the chip on the wlan card
13:05.27PaperCutso perhaps yes
13:07.30phinitecool... start by finding a serial cable connection see where it goes from there.  thanks for the info
13:07.43PaperCutnp, good luck!
13:08.02PaperCutjust be cautious when you load the new bootloader
13:08.19phiniteis it tricky?
13:08.50PaperCutnot at all
13:09.15PaperCutjust don't be inventive and try to do three things at the same time when you install it :)
13:09.41phiniteahh, so basically it's easy enough to do that it's all up to me to screw it up ;)
13:10.15PaperCutexactly :))
13:10.22phiniteok, sleep for an hour or two before bed... night
13:10.24PaperCutit takes human interaction to screw things up
13:10.27PaperCutheeh
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19:18.33bischhello
19:19.07bischi'm comming here, to get some help on building opie
19:19.18bischsomeone wants to help ?
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