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00:05.49Elive_user_it_12hi
00:06.17xGaryGHey
00:06.38she_dyedhey there
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01:52.24Elive_user_it_12during install I get: rsync exit status is 12
01:52.35Elive_user_it_12(file: , function: copying_main_system_background, line: 1818)
01:52.49keyraElive_user_it_12: take a look at that: http://bugs.elivecd.org/?do=details&task_id=33&histring=background
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01:54.33xGaryGHey Again.
01:57.52Elive_user_it_12no space left on device
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02:02.34Elive_user_en_12Thanatermesis, ecomorph is faster than composite module on my intel atom too
02:02.42Elive_user_en_12geez we should have this enabled by default
02:02.48keyraElive_user_en_12: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one, install the package emodule-ecomorph if you don't found it here
02:02.50Elive_user_en_12is PrinceAMD
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02:19.03Elive_user_en_12Thanatermesis, http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53ae260d69bc70.55760773.jpg still cut
02:19.11Elive_user_en_12i'll look into this
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07:51.00ThanatermesisElive_user_en_12, ping? it is not cut on newer versions, which one are you using ?
07:51.20Thanatermesisbitstream fonts dependency is hte cause, htats all
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11:53.36BootZI have an Alps touchpad. Normally I add some stuff to xorg.conf or a 90-synaptics.conf to get tabbing to work but both files are not there. Can I crate them and if yes, where?
11:53.48ThanatermesisBootZ, give me a second, i have something for you :)
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11:55.07ThanatermesisBootZ, see the bot :) ^
11:55.14Thanatermesisclick in the link to see
11:56.36BootZoh wow, you have been busy tonight
11:56.51Thanatermesishas eight hands
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11:57.31BootZso I need to put this in usr/bin/setvolume(.sh)?
11:58.18BootZah, it exists. Replace it with your code?
11:59.13BootZsory, my bad, we can call this from within the keybindings
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11:59.46BootZthat's nice but I use one key for mute/unmute...
11:59.48ThanatermesisBootZ, yes but not needed
11:59.51Thanatermesisjust upgrade the package
11:59.53Thanatermesisapui elive-tools
11:59.57Thanatermesisthen see if mute works :)
12:00.02Thanatermesisfrom a terminal first
12:00.15Thanatermesissetvolume mute
12:00.19Thanatermesisshould toggle perfectly
12:00.25BootZtesting...
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12:01.10BootZdoes the trick
12:01.17BootZat PCM channel
12:01.30Thanatermesisis not a trick! is a real mute feature! :) lol
12:01.46Thanatermesisgood to know that it works for you too :)
12:02.00Thanatermesissee that there's almost 500 lines of code that i just wrote, i was lucky to have a card that had the same problem
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12:02.20BootZso I coud alter this file to look at current volume and mute or unmute
12:02.31BootZso I can use one key
12:02.42BootZsweet
12:03.18BootZI just found out that I need to create a bigger swap partition...too small for hibernation...
12:03.36BootZthinking of removing swap partition and use a file
12:04.42BootZthanks again for the help. If I should reinstall again then this volume file is inluded by default?
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12:05.53BootZso anyone about the ALPS section?
12:10.18Thanatermesis2<29BootZ2> so I coud alter this file to look at current volume and mute or unmute
12:10.19Thanatermesishu?
12:10.24Thanatermesisyou dont need that at all
12:10.28Thanatermesisjust use "setvolume mute"
12:10.31Thanatermesisits a toggle
12:10.42Thanatermesissee the info, run "setvolume" without params to get a help
12:13.43Thanatermesis<BootZ> thanks again for the help. If I should reinstall again then this volume file is inluded by default?
12:13.47Thanatermesisreinstall ? no
12:13.50Thanatermesisjust run:  apui elive-tools
12:14.00Thanatermesisand then run "setvolume mute" to toggle your toggle state
12:14.43ThanatermesisBootZ, about alps, i will do tests soon if you report it to http://bugs.elivecd.org
12:14.57keyraThanatermesis: deb http://repository.elivecd.org wheezy main elive efl games ports drivers multimedia non-free
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12:23.30xGaryGGood Morning, All!
12:25.17Thanatermesishi xGaryG
12:25.38xGaryGWhat are we going to get into today?
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12:27.56ThanatermesisxGaryG, just did this http://git.io/OAVHsA
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12:28.53BootZI'm so proud!
12:29.01xGaryGWe have been needing that .  Nice!
12:29.06BootZgot my alps touchpad to work!
12:29.30BootZcreated a xorg.conf.d folder and in there a alps.conf file
12:29.35BootZworks like a charm
12:29.44keyraBootZ: microsoft says that a folder is something between the desktop and the trash, just in face of your books and pencils
12:35.42xGaryGYou don't gave KDE stuff installed by default, do you?
12:37.36xGaryGI have a .kde and a .qt directory in my home directory?
12:37.44Thanatermesisyes, you have
12:37.48Thanatermesistheme configs
12:37.55Thanatermesisdsome things uses K interfaces
12:37.57Thanatermesislike virtualbox
12:38.45xGaryGYou have QT running at some point?
12:39.23Thanatermesisdsome things uses K interfaces
12:39.23Thanatermesislike virtualbox
12:41.38xGaryGNo prob, just looking thins over.
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12:45.35ThanatermesisFOOD TIME! :)
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12:45.55Thanatermesisaway: filling up brain cells
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13:02.23Elive_user_en_12Thanatermesis, when testing elive 2.2.6 to current, do you get any segf?
13:02.49Elive_user_en_12i got segf everytime i open the menu, i'll fix it of course. i think it is because my flash is super slow
13:03.10Elive_user_en_12i am updating to the latest enlightenment now
13:03.53Elive_user_en_12Thanatermesis, inxi command removed from elive installed version, why?
13:04.07keyraElive_user_en_12: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
13:09.38ThanatermesisElive_user_en_12, press Ctrl +S in your chat :)
13:09.50ThanatermesisElive_user_en_12, 2.2.6 is very old, upgrade to 2.3.1 :)
13:10.00Elive_user_en_12grrr
13:10.09Elive_user_en_12i have it at work, i'll try it another day
13:10.14Elive_user_en_12is princeamd
13:10.15Thanatermesisand, no segfaults here
13:10.18Elive_user_en_12ok
13:10.19Thanatermesisoh wait
13:10.27Thanatermesisinstall e17-menus, and upgrade to last E
13:10.33Elive_user_en_12ok
13:10.41Thanatermesisbut anyways... just move to 2.3.1, is much safer... just like this, there's a thousand more of fixes
13:10.47Thanatermesisif you want 24 you will get 2.3.2 :)
13:10.49Elive_user_en_12just upgrade, seems to work fine now
13:10.56Elive_user_en_12menu works pretty good!
13:11.15ThanatermesisElive_user_en_12, nope, inxi is inlcuded in all the isos, did you do some voohdooh?
13:11.21Thanatermesisyeah, much improved :)
13:11.30Thanatermesisspecial Elive organized sections
13:11.39Elive_user_en_12maybe not in 2.2.6?
13:11.47Thanatermesisi dont think so, it should be included too
13:11.53Thanatermesiswell, not from what i recall
13:11.54Elive_user_en_12well it aint here
13:11.58Thanatermesislet me check
13:12.08Thanatermesisinxi is in my laptop, so yes, included
13:12.20Elive_user_en_12voodooo
13:12.25Thanatermesisi think that you have a SO FUCKING OLD version that i dont even remember to have included inxi on teh last 200 years lol
13:12.26Elive_user_en_12it magically vanish
13:12.31Elive_user_en_12lol
13:12.32Elive_user_en_12hahahahaha
13:12.34Elive_user_en_12good one
13:12.40Thanatermesis:)
13:12.51Elive_user_en_12elive-codename: beta (development)
13:12.52Elive_user_en_12elive-version: 2.2.6
13:12.52Elive_user_en_12debian-version: wheezy
13:12.52Elive_user_en_12date-builded: 2014-06-06
13:12.55Elive_user_en_12SO FUCKING LD
13:13.01Elive_user_en_12old*
13:13.06keyraElive_user_en_12: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
13:13.13Elive_user_en_12Thanatermesis, 2.3.2 comes with ecomorph ????
13:13.27keyraElive_user_en_12: to enable compiz just go to the e17 modules and enable the 'ecomorph' one, install the package emodule-ecomorph if you don't found it here
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13:18.32Elive_user35_encan i get the beta installer
13:18.33superkeyraElive_user35_en, if you ask about the beta installer is because you are using an old version of elive, you could install it but actually there's a ton of fixes and improvements that can make your install much more reliable and well done, if you install this version you will have a broken system with bugs, so please download a new version of Elive from the website, th
13:18.47keyrasuperkeyra: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org
13:19.17Thanatermesiscooking
13:19.34ThanatermesisElive_user_en_12, nope
13:19.47Thanatermesisnot yet, needs to implement it, but theres a few bugs htat needs to be fixed in ecomorph first
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13:20.12Thanatermesisfor example sometimes you return to a desktop and the windows are "not shown" until you click or move them", invisible
13:21.03Elive_user35_enwhere do i download the latest version of elive?
13:21.17keyraElive_user35_en: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
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13:22.22Elive_user35_enwhat is the website url?
13:23.36Thanatermesisapt, google Elive download beta
13:23.46Thanatermesissuperkeyra, google Elive download beta
13:23.46superkeyraThanatermesis, Results for Elive download beta: 1. Download Elive - Beta version: http://www.elivecd.org/download/beta/ | 2. Elive Stable Download: http://www.elivecd.org/download/stable/ | 3. Elive - Download (Linux) - Softpedia: http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/Operating-Systems/Linux-Distributions/Elive-3180.shtml
13:23.50Thanatermesisnice :)
13:23.54ThanatermesisElive_user35_en, ^
13:28.51Elive_user35_enthanks
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14:09.04BootZdon't wanna debug but suddenly x doesn't work anymore for standard user. Root works fine...so Installing again :-)
14:09.16BootZno changes made
14:09.18keyraBootZ: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org
14:16.59BootZThanatermesis: so it was: Install, reboot, login, upag, logout, console, del .e, logout, login graphical, upai?
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14:21.49Elive_user_tr_13hello
14:22.40Naglfarhello Elive_user_tr_13
14:28.30Thanatermesis2<29BootZ2> don't wanna debug but suddenly x doesn't work anymore for standard user. Root works fine...so Installing again :-)
14:28.39Thanatermesiswhat you did ? i need to know if hteres any bug
14:28.44keyraThanatermesis: if you tell us about a problem and how to reproduce it is very important for improve the next versions of elive by solving them, so please tell us about them! you can do it easly at http://bugs.elivecd.org
14:28.47BootZnothing
14:28.56BootZthat's the point
14:28.57Thanatermesiswhy / what not worked ?
14:29.07ThanatermesisBootZ, well, if you wait tomorrow there will be a new iso
14:29.19BootZkeep putting me back on the x login screen
14:29.37BootZwith root it worked. Deleted my .e but that didn't helped either
14:29.46BootZtomorrow
14:29.48BootZnope
14:29.50Thanatermesisyou deleted your home partition ? umounted ?
14:29.53BootZbut will download it
14:30.04BootZor can I do an dist-upgrade?
14:30.19keyraBootZ: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
14:30.23BootZlogged in with root, del /home/<user>/.e
14:31.11BootZgonna reboor, cu!
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14:35.27Elive_user_tr_12hello I am tester
14:35.38Elive_user_tr_12thnx
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14:46.53BootZThanatermesis: see http://www.enlightenment.org/ss/e-53aed5345e3a25.99459165.jpg
14:47.18BootZand it keeps looping :-)
14:48.07ThanatermesisBootZ, setvolume 2% down
14:48.18Thanatermesisoh, you did
14:48.26Thanatermesishum
14:48.30Thanatermesiscat Error.log | elivepaste
14:48.45Thanatermesisnot saved
14:48.52BootZ[(piped)] http://pastebin.com/1LZJxhk6
14:48.52superkeyraBootZ in elive you can do things like "dmesg | tail | elivepaste"
14:49.00BootZdone
14:49.43BootZwell, that's not much isn't it?
14:50.30Thanatermesisnope
14:50.32Thanatermesisit works on my laptop
14:50.43ThanatermesisBootZ, run:  setvolume 2% down 2>&1 | elivepaste
14:51.27BootZdone
14:52.01BootZonly change is that I added a alps.conf in a new directory called xorg.conf.d
14:52.27BootZso I have touchpad working (tapping)
14:53.34BootZlast thing to get working is my 9in1 usb cardreader. It sees the damn thing but not the inserted sd card
14:55.07Thanatermesis"acer aspire one" ?
14:55.49BootZextensa 5230e
14:58.04ThanatermesisBootZ, run:  setvolume 2% down 2>&1 | elivepaste
14:58.14Thanatermesissuperkeyra, copy-paste?
14:58.28keyraThanatermesis: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time
14:59.41BootZdone again
15:00.21Thanatermesis?
15:00.27Thanatermesispaste link should appear here
15:00.34BootZset volume , you asked again
15:00.35Thanatermesissee what keyra said
15:00.45BootZit has no output
15:00.58ThanatermesisBootZ, run this command in terminal:        setvolume 2% down 2>&1 | elivepaste
15:01.01Thanatermesisentire one
15:01.11BootZwhat entire one?
15:01.18Thanatermesismmh, no output?
15:01.22BootZnope
15:01.34Thanatermesisdoes your terminal shows a number in red when you run "setvolume 2% down" ?
15:01.36BootZone moment will open extra trminal with alsamixer
15:02.01BootZno error but no volume down
15:02.13BootZohw wait...
15:02.36BootZfirst it did my master volume, didn't see a PCM bar
15:02.41BootZnow it is there
15:02.56BootZand volume works right, without logout/login
15:02.59BootZstrange
15:03.11BootZmute also works again
15:03.13BootZpffff
15:03.16BootZwhat's this
15:03.29BootZand no errors as like on my screenshot
15:04.05BootZno red number besides the complete command
15:04.18BootZso it seems to work again
15:04.26BootZlive on Linux...
15:05.31BootZokay, need to go but one more question for Thanatermesis
15:05.57BootZhow do I can set my master volume to full (PCM is done with the keyboard shortcuts)
15:06.14Thanatermesismaybe you needed to reload enlightenment
15:06.26ThanatermesisBootZ, "setvolume defaults"
15:06.50BootZno got it. I kept pressing FN+vol+, stupid me
15:07.01BootZshuld be arrow up
15:07.07BootZin the alsamixer
15:07.10BootZthanks
15:08.22BootZgoing to a party, thans for all the help and I will be back soon!
15:09.36Thanatermesis:)
15:09.53Thanatermesiswhat was the other issue BootZ ?
15:09.55Thanatermesisi didnt remember....
15:10.03Thanatermesisneeds things reported at bugs.elivecd.org
15:10.17keyraThanatermesis: deb http://repository.elivecd.org wheezy main elive efl games ports drivers multimedia non-free
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15:29.28Elive_user99_enneed the beta installer
15:29.28superkeyraElive_user99_en, if you ask about the beta installer is because you are using an old version of elive, you could install it but actually there's a ton of fixes and improvements that can make your install much more reliable and well done, if you install this version you will have a broken system with bugs, so please download a new version of Elive from the website, th
15:29.42keyrasuperkeyra: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
15:33.23Thanatermesisi wonder how is possible that so much ppl still using these old versions
15:33.29Thanatermesisthey are gone from teh server long time ago
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16:59.25she_dyedhey there
17:03.00Naglfarhey she_dyed
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17:10.05she_dyedhi Naglfar
17:10.14Naglfar:)
17:10.55she_dyedhere i think i'll submit an application...
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17:23.33Elive_user47_enI am looking for the elive beta installer
17:23.33superkeyraElive_user47_en, if you ask about the beta installer is because you are using an old version of elive, you could install it but actually there's a ton of fixes and improvements that can make your install much more reliable and well done, if you install this version you will have a broken system with bugs, so please download a new version of Elive from the website, th
17:23.47keyrasuperkeyra: To know the version of your Elive just see it in: cat /etc/elive-version
17:26.06Elive_user47_en2.2.2
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19:52.32Elive_user_pt_475366rubinho
19:52.40Elive_user_pt_47rubinho
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20:41.37she_dyedbon jour
20:41.47she_dyedheh
20:49.38Elive_user_fr_13bonjour
20:50.16Elive_user_fr_13il faut attendre longtemps le "without donation"?
20:51.52she_dyedshould be same time...
20:52.13Elive_user_fr_13ok, c'est bon
20:52.29she_dyedok,
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20:57.12BootZany guidelines on troubleshooting hibernation?
20:57.57she_dyeddoes suspend work ok?
20:58.04BootZyep
20:58.39BootZnewly installed now with swap partition bigger then available memory
20:59.02BootZat least I understand that the hibernation file goes to swap or am I wrong?
21:03.52she_dyedhibernation goes to disk
21:04.03she_dyedsuspend i think goes to swap
21:04.13BootZnot according to what I read
21:04.18BootZbut that can be wrong
21:04.54BootZ<PROTECTED>
21:05.00BootZfound on internet
21:05.39she_dyedso you believe it
21:06.01BootZhahaha, well sometimes you need to believe something
21:06.16BootZfor weezy is read there is a hibernate package
21:06.24BootZfor weezy I read there is a hibernate package
21:06.46she_dyedwhat like extra?
21:08.15she_dyedfor laptops
21:08.44she_dyedi guess
21:11.58BootZprobably, must yet start to read about it
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21:16.37BootZhibernate is installed
21:18.06she_dyeddang i have to go
21:18.13BootZcu
21:21.12she_dyedl8r
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21:22.09Elive_user_en_23On the hard disk partitioner you can proceed (err, briefly) without selecting any options...
21:23.20Elive_user_en_23(During installation, that is.) Also the installation options on the boot menu did nothign for me.
21:23.35Elive_user_en_23"nothing" that is...
21:27.19Elive_user_fr_13cas3tupu
21:41.07Elive_user_en_23You only ask for the root pwd once on install and don't show what you're typing - either show the typing or have a confirmation box, else typos are nasty IMHO
21:46.03Elive_user_en_23Also not impressed by having to have an internet connection to download an installer to do an install (also perhaps the donation page should be for people doing an upgrade rather than a clean install of a beta, although you are welcome to think differently and I understand the issues)
21:46.17keyraElive_user_en_23: how to get free invitations: http://www.elivecd.org/codes
21:46.30Elive_user_en_23(Missing forst part) Also not impressed by having to have an internet connection to download an installer to do an install (also perhaps the donation page should be for people doing an upgrade rather than a ...
21:46.40Elive_user_en_23(Then see previous post)
21:46.56Elive_user_en_23("first" not "forst")
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22:18.37Elive_user_en_23Ah, I thought it had hung up at about 45%, but there was a dialogue "Add a new entry" behind the chat window. It was asking for the root password again. The next dialogue has the same title...
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22:27.39BootZsuperkeyra SDHC
22:32.15BootZah, probably my cardreader doesn.t support sdhc, it's an oldie
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