IRC log for #elive on 20080720

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00:38.24ELIVE1hello
00:38.46ELIVE1em i want to remove elive-news but it also says that will be removed entrance
00:38.55ELIVE1what is entrance ?
00:39.25ELIVE1entrance is a login manager...
00:39.41ELIVE1why i cant remove elive-news only ??
00:42.19LinuxNIT-IIhang on a sec
00:42.40ELIVE1S:)
00:42.59ELIVE1wow, someting new on elive site its GREAT alternative :)
00:43.13ELIVE1on Youtube Alternative, i mean
00:43.26ELIVE1btw nice compilation !!!!!!
00:43.33LinuxNIT-II:)
00:43.33ELIVE1i mean video :)))
00:43.39ELIVE1(looking now)
00:43.47LinuxNIT-IIis the issue that you dont want to see the popup anymore when you login?
00:44.17LinuxNIT-IIyou cant remove it without removing the other packages due to dependancies most likely
00:44.29ELIVE1yes, i want remove elivenews / Small application to show the news of Elive automatically
00:44.59ELIVE1mm its easier to me with synaptic but he dont alows
00:45.11ELIVE1selects automaticaly, hmn
00:45.15LinuxNIT-IIwhat version of elive is this?
00:45.30ELIVE1gem, em
00:45.39ELIVE1litle bit older :}
00:46.15LinuxNIT-IIcheck your .elxstrt file. i think you can comment out the command then it will not appear anymore when you login
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00:56.27ELIVE1OK; whats more, em can you coment this - why its zombie ? http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/16/snap4zy5.png i didnt isued this comand !
00:58.30LinuxNIT-IIsu?
00:58.58ELIVE1su + killall, i see it always after botin in desctop
00:59.15ELIVE1after booting*
01:01.09ELIVE1its caled by entrance login as i see
01:01.28ELIVE1hows taht can be :S ?
01:01.30LinuxNIT-IIwell youll probably have to edit some code
01:01.40ELIVE1where :)
01:01.41ELIVE1?
01:01.50LinuxNIT-IIentrance source code
01:01.57LinuxNIT-IIthen recompile it
01:02.03ELIVE1omg
01:02.05ELIVE1:)
01:02.09LinuxNIT-IIbut i have no idea where in the code that will be
01:02.19LinuxNIT-IIjust a guess.
01:03.05LinuxNIT-IIwhat programn are you using for the process list?
01:03.18ELIVE1htop
01:03.54ELIVE1in .elxstrt as i se i can uncoment all
01:04.59LinuxNIT-IIi have the dev version which has a newer version of entrance and i dont see the zombies in htop
01:05.11ELIVE1:/
01:05.30LinuxNIT-IIno that should be a :)
01:05.31LinuxNIT-IIit means the issue is fixed ;)
01:05.44LinuxNIT-II;)
01:05.45ELIVE1so what to do now
01:06.10ELIVE1update entrance from lenny ?
01:06.49LinuxNIT-IIwell youd have to use the test repos for elive... but i havent upgraded to elive tests from gem in a long while... im not sure what it would do
01:07.04keyraLinuxNIT-II: if you want to upgrade your elive system to a newest one without reinstall, this is not totally possible... because a lot of features are added in the 'process' (boot, configurations, detections, updates, install features, etc) and not just the packages, read the changelog of the releases so you can see the new features added and decide what you do
01:07.22ELIVE1(my is 1cvs20071212)
01:08.02ELIVE1i dont want to reinstal..
01:08.18LinuxNIT-IIdo the zombies bother you that much?
01:08.41ELIVE1all system, em its not right it hink, dont like zombies ;B
01:09.04ELIVE1cause they are zombies ;) you know
01:10.01ELIVE1am sorry, but there is 3 files of .elxstrt
01:10.03LinuxNIT-IIwell it might be more trouble than its worth to try and get rid of them. However, you could try an alternate login manager
01:10.13LinuxNIT-IIxdm gdm kdm not sure of any others
01:10.26ELIVE1well i like entrance its so cool :)
01:10.44LinuxNIT-IIwell you can try upgrading to the tests version... but i wont be responsible if things break
01:10.58ELIVE1/etc/skel/.elxstrt what is ont his ?
01:11.00LinuxNIT-IIit goes to lenny repos and elive tests repos
01:11.18LinuxNIT-IIwhat do you mean?
01:11.27ELIVE1i see in user dirs .elxstrt is abvious :} just a mesage
01:12.09LinuxNIT-II.elxstrt is a script that is run when the user logs in to start processes and or programs
01:12.17ELIVE1you know its already 4am ;B maybe im blind alitle bit so sory
01:12.38LinuxNIT-II8 pm here
01:12.47ELIVE1mm so i can totaly remove it :) tahts just so fine
01:13.09LinuxNIT-IIfrom /etc/skel?
01:13.14ELIVE1yea
01:13.16LinuxNIT-IIwhy would you want to do that?
01:13.27ELIVE1mm and why do i need it :) ?
01:13.45LinuxNIT-IIbecause /etc/skel is the template for forming a new users directory
01:14.00LinuxNIT-II<PROTECTED>
01:14.12ELIVE1mmm :}}}
01:14.12LinuxNIT-IIif you dont want it to run remove the one in ~ not in /etc/skel
01:14.40ELIVE1mm oki thank you for clearance (ssssooooryy mistaces many mistaces)
01:14.47ELIVE1;D
01:15.06ELIVE1mmm, you so patient :) tahts good
01:15.10ELIVE1thats*
01:15.20LinuxNIT-IIno worries
01:15.25LinuxNIT-IIi get used to it
01:15.32ELIVE1mm, can you help alitle bit with nfs
01:15.38ELIVE1mm:
01:15.40LinuxNIT-IIi dont recommend deleteing any files outside of your home dir
01:15.51LinuxNIT-IIespecially if you dont know what your doing ;)
01:16.00LinuxNIT-IIi havent used nfs much
01:16.13LinuxNIT-IIthere is a tool in elpanel that will help you set it up though i have never used it
01:16.25ELIVE1i set it up corectly but how to get it started automaticaly ?
01:16.40ELIVE1on system boot up
01:17.58LinuxNIT-IInfs?
01:18.14LinuxNIT-IIthe server or the mounting the share?
01:18.25ELIVE1i laways, after boot up must run nfs couple comands :/ server
01:18.46LinuxNIT-IIcheck and see if nfs is in the boot up thing in elpanel
01:20.26ELIVE1thats the another one problem ;D
01:20.35ELIVE1elpanel is missing
01:20.44LinuxNIT-IIhow did you manage that
01:20.51ELIVE1dont know :)
01:21.07ELIVE1i thing i t was removed while someting uninstaling
01:21.20ELIVE1along time ago.. and i noticed much to late
01:21.26ELIVE1to reproduce what im done
01:21.52ELIVE1and in repositories there is no elpanel :)
01:22.13ELIVE1so i dont have and i dont use it :B
01:22.24ELIVE1it was cool toy :)
01:22.33ELIVE1;B
01:22.51ELIVE1are you not louhting at me ?
01:23.43LinuxNIT-IIapt-cache search elpanel  
01:23.49ELIVE1(aww btw ggood morning :) its already right time to say that)
01:24.12ELIVE1root@el[~]# apt-cache search elpanel
01:24.12ELIVE1root@el[~]#
01:24.37ELIVE1;D killing thing yes
01:24.37LinuxNIT-IIdo you have elives repo in your sources list?
01:24.42ELIVE1yes !!
01:25.07ELIVE1http://repository.elive-systems.com/
01:25.17ELIVE1elive / main drivers ports elive tests
01:26.11LinuxNIT-IIapt-get update
01:26.27ELIVE1omg my elive wouldnt go blow up ?
01:27.02ELIVE1:)
01:27.29LinuxNIT-IIuh ho
01:27.32LinuxNIT-IIuh no
01:27.51ELIVE1yes i know this kind of thing im done already milijon times :)
01:28.06ELIVE1well lets do it again
01:28.30ELIVE1Reading package lists... Done
01:28.42ELIVE1:D nothing
01:28.58ELIVE1elpanel dosnt egzist
01:30.05ELIVE1:)
01:31.49ELIVE1uh im root ops going out
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01:33.58n0madok im backk ;BBB
01:34.12n0madhow you going there :) still alive ?
01:35.15n0mad*doing
01:35.18n0madhmn
01:35.52n0maddoes anyone know ? elive with fluxbox = hella damn fast
01:36.32n0madinsane fast :) but with e17 just looks awsome
01:38.26n0madmm im confused, into with directory i must put em my script cmds... taht it will run on boot process ?
01:39.11n0madinit...somehove
01:39.40n0mad/etc/init.d ?
01:42.47n0madhttp://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#contents..
02:31.43anuuubb
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02:36.43roxvillehi ppl :)
02:36.58roxvillei have moving and working this weekend
02:37.15roxvillei'm gonna idle for a while and get some sleep
02:37.21roxville:)
02:37.59roxvilleis away: sleeping....sleeeeeeeeepiiiiiiiiing...
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08:19.52AlexAnteEeePCanybody got knowledge in easy-ics?
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08:31.31AlexAnteEeePCWizard, ?
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09:12.31AlexAnteMachinaHi watchwolf
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09:13.58watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, hello
09:14.36AlexAnteMachinawhat's up?
09:14.56AlexAnteMachinaAre you still working on Exalt?
09:15.05watchwolfnot really
09:16.47AlexAnteMachinay that?
09:17.25AlexAnteMachinawho else does?
09:18.04watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, I m busy with a other project
09:18.14watchwolfbut I maintain exalt
09:20.19AlexAnteMachinayou are not working on it but maintaining it.... hmm,.. maintaining is no work!?
09:25.02AlexAnteMachinawatchwolf, I'm using wcid on my eeepc now, because Exalt was too buggy.
09:29.42watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, you are the only guy with this problem and I don't know why :D
09:30.33AlexAnteMachinathana's eeepc does not have any problems? Does he change network? Or is he using always the same wifi-network?
09:30.48keyraAlexAnteMachina: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
09:33.32watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, he has no pb, I don't know what driver he use
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10:05.15AlexAnteMachinawatchwolf, it's a standarddriver... not sure now... wext or ndiswrapper
10:05.42watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, on the eeepc you have a special driver, patch for the eeepc
10:05.52watchwolfbut I forgot the name
10:06.19AlexAnteMachinamight be, but actually I'm using wcid and this uses standarddrivers.
10:07.05AlexAnteMachinawext is what my eeepc uses now.
10:19.41AlexAnteMachinawatchwolf, ?
10:20.14watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, hum 2 seconds
10:21.27AlexAnteMachinaah! you are french!
10:21.28watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, have you try the driver madwifi ?
10:21.39watchwolfAlexAnteMachina, yes why ? :p
10:21.48AlexAnteMachinahm,.. no. since wext works
10:22.23AlexAnteMachinabecause i just looked it up...  :)
10:22.37watchwolfmaybe wext has some problems, wcid doesn't use all what exalt use (notification when ip change ...)
10:22.55AlexAnteMachinathat's right.
10:30.00AlexAnteMachinawell, I'll try it....
10:30.09AlexAnteMachinaworks, too.
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10:46.12AlexAnteMachinawatchwolf, madwifi does not work properly. But wext does!!!
10:46.27keyraAlexAnteMachina: if your wifi is not supported on Elive, report it on http://bugs.elivecd.org and we look how to add the support on Elive by default :)
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11:33.26ma_texhi people
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13:35.08Wizardhello
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13:48.55LinuxNIT-IIhello
13:50.48AlexAnteEeePChi LinuxNIT
13:56.12LinuxNIT-IIhi AlexAnteEeePC hows it going
13:56.32Wizardhi AlexAnteEeePC, LinuxNIT-II
13:56.51LinuxNIT-IIhowdy Wizard how are you doing
13:57.03Wizardi'm:
13:57.08Wizard1. hangovered
13:57.13Wizard2. drinking beer
13:57.30LinuxNIT-IInot a good way to improve the hangover situation
13:57.32LinuxNIT-II;)
13:57.47Wizardwhat? great way
13:57.57Wizardthe best solution i know
13:58.15Wizard:D
13:58.20LinuxNIT-IIwell hang over is partially due to the fact that beer de-hydrates your body
13:58.32LinuxNIT-IImore beer will further de-hydrate you
13:58.38LinuxNIT-IIdrink a shit load of water
13:59.04LinuxNIT-IIif people get so drunk they end up in the hospital.... the hospital gives them an IV for water
13:59.08Wizardyeah, but ethanol speeds up removing toxic substances
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13:59.32LinuxNIT-IIwonders what substances these are
13:59.42AlexAnteEeePCback
13:59.59LinuxNIT-IIwelcome back
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14:00.57LinuxNIT-IIwelcome back
14:00.58WizardLinuxNIT-II: besides, i'm going to another party tonight :P
14:01.04Wizardshit
14:01.04LinuxNIT-IIlol
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14:01.11Wizardsomething is still not right
14:01.14LinuxNIT-IIanother reason to get as much water as possible
14:01.30WizardJoin to #elive was synced in 28 secs
14:01.33Wizardo_O
14:01.38Wizardoh my fucking god
14:01.53LinuxNIT-IIyou body is like 98% water so.... i think it needs water
14:02.04AlexAnteEeePClol
14:02.05LinuxNIT-IIor is it 96%
14:02.10AlexAnteEeePC98%
14:02.10LinuxNIT-IIone of the two
14:02.20LinuxNIT-II:)
14:02.45AlexAnteEeePCso you relly think?
14:03.16LinuxNIT-IIyes ;)
14:03.32AlexAnteEeePC:)
14:03.42LinuxNIT-IIlooks like i need to update my wifi-wiz so that it quites telling me about depreciated code in lenny
14:03.49AlexAnteEeePCbut that is not true
14:04.17LinuxNIT-IIwhat is not true?
14:04.23Wizardbah
14:04.32LinuxNIT-IIlol
14:04.37Wizard64 bytes from 212.77.100.101: icmp_seq=8 ttl=120 time=114.207 ms
14:04.52Wizardnow: what the hell is going on
14:04.58AlexAnteEeePCa adult human being onsists of about 63% water
14:05.40LinuxNIT-IIriiight
14:06.00AlexAnteEeePCif it was something about 96% we would look like jellyfish!!
14:06.40AlexAnteEeePChow are you doing, my friend? ..i feel soooo wobbly....
14:06.50AlexAnteEeePClol
14:09.30AlexAnteEeePCfor example bloo onsists of about 93% water.
14:09.39AlexAnteEeePCups.. blood...
14:10.55AlexAnteEeePCbut your teeth only of about 5%
14:11.37LinuxNIT-IIwonders why AlexAnteEeePC said 98% then later disagreed with himself
14:11.52AlexAnteEeePChuh?
14:11.59LinuxNIT-II<LinuxNIT-II> or is it 96%
14:12.00LinuxNIT-II<AlexAnteEeePC> 98%
14:12.59LinuxNIT-IIim not saying your wrong about the 63% it would make more sense... however my point is that the greater part of the body is water (even at 63%) hence it is a good idea to consume large quantities
14:13.39AlexAnteEeePCi was unbeliving you... so i repeated your statement
14:14.04LinuxNIT-IIah.. i see, most people put a "?" when they do that ;)
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17:17.34|ast|Thanatermesis: o/
17:18.10Thanatermesiso/ |ast|
17:18.23|ast|Thanatermesis: ya metiste r5u870-svn?
17:19.19Thanatermesis|ast|, no, el de la version que está en debian, no te sirve esa ?
17:19.32Thanatermesisbueno, lo que metí son los firmwares de la svn
17:20.05|ast|Thanatermesis: no uso debian...
17:20.18|ast|pero elive si importa
17:20.20|ast|xD
17:20.52Thanatermesis|ast|, lo que uso de debian es la version del driver, los firmwares son de SVN, te debería de funcionar directamente
17:21.08|ast|ya veo
17:26.48|ast|Thanatermesis: ya tienes video de tu asus eeepc?
17:26.49|ast|xD
17:27.24Thanatermesis|ast|, no, aun no... no he tenido tiempo aun, primero tengo que terminarle la version y tal
17:27.43|ast|ya veo
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17:50.33Elive_user52_enhello thamatemesis are you here?
17:50.42Elive_user52_enmay I ask you some questions?
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18:10.42AlexAnteMachinaHi all!
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