| 00:00.00 | Bryanstein_ | that would require qt I believe |
| 00:00.04 | Quarky-e | the tutorials are many moer |
| 00:00.06 | Quarky-e | more* |
| 00:00.43 | Bryanstein_ | wizard123, qemu-launcher qemu-system-mipsel |
| 00:00.43 | Bryanstein_ | qemu-launcher-kqemuloader |
| 00:00.48 | Bryanstein_ | ah ha |
| 00:01.29 | Elive_user96 | Eheh, ahm, and there is one additional question I`d love to pose =P |
| 00:01.36 | wizard123 | shoot |
| 00:01.49 | wizard123 | 'will my wife like it?' |
| 00:01.54 | Elive_user96 | ... http://www.deepsky.com/~e/pages/img/efl_shots/rephorm-desktop.png |
| 00:01.59 | Elive_user96 | Where can I get this theme from? |
| 00:02.33 | wizard123 | detour theme |
| 00:02.51 | Elive_user96 | Har. |
| 00:02.54 | Elive_user96 | Grand. Thanks! |
| 00:02.59 | Quarky-e | "if the wife doesn't like it wil the girl next door"?? |
| 00:03.06 | Quarky-e | ooops a double ? |
| 00:03.12 | wizard123 | http://code.google.com/p/detour/ |
| 00:03.13 | keyra | Quarky-e: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 00:03.17 | Quarky-e | see |
| 00:03.58 | Bryanstein_ | good job wizard123 they have a new detour out too right? |
| 00:04.10 | wizard123 | i don't know ;) |
| 00:04.20 | wizard123 | i've just pasted that link for him |
| 00:04.21 | Bryanstein_ | lol well kudos never the less |
| 00:04.29 | wizard123 | i don't use e17 ;) |
| 00:04.31 | Elive_user96 | Hmhm. Yet the style isn`t -exactly- the same. ^^ |
| 00:04.42 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 00:04.47 | wizard123 | maybe it was something else |
| 00:04.54 | wizard123 | ^^ |
| 00:05.17 | Elive_user96 | The theme I showed you had rounded corners for windows... detour has the usual rectangular ones... |
| 00:05.55 | Bryanstein_ | well roxville will know what theme it is for suere |
| 00:05.57 | Bryanstein_ | sure |
| 00:06.05 | Bryanstein_ | he is the theme wizard |
| 00:06.23 | Elive_user96 | Ah, how can I contact him? |
| 00:06.26 | wizard123 | yeah, he created few ;) |
| 00:06.30 | wizard123 | roxville: ping |
| 00:06.54 | wizard123 | i think he'll apear soon |
| 00:07.34 | Elive_user96 | Mhm. |
| 00:07.42 | Elive_user96 | Thank you very much again ^^ |
| 00:08.12 | Elive_user96 | There are sooo many questions ... well, I just continue to ask: Is it possible to write additional modules for Enlightenment? |
| 00:08.20 | wizard123 | sure |
| 00:08.36 | Elive_user96 | Is there a special MDK available? |
| 00:08.49 | wizard123 | mdk ? |
| 00:08.56 | Elive_user96 | "Module Development Kit" |
| 00:09.12 | wizard123 | only set of libraries, and documentation |
| 00:09.12 | Elive_user96 | Sort of SDK for Modules ... |
| 00:09.19 | Elive_user96 | Yes. |
| 00:09.19 | wizard123 | should be enough |
| 00:09.22 | Elive_user96 | True. |
| 00:09.42 | Elive_user96 | What`s the programming language used? |
| 00:09.55 | wizard123 | C |
| 00:10.03 | Bryanstein_ | edje |
| 00:10.08 | wizard123 | too |
| 00:10.10 | Elive_user96 | edje? |
| 00:10.12 | Bryanstein_ | also |
| 00:10.14 | Bryanstein_ | yes |
| 00:10.56 | Quarky-e | gnight all, bedtime. |
| 00:11.01 | Elive_user96 | Nighty night |
| 00:11.15 | Elive_user96 | Ah, Edje is a language desiged for Enlightenment. |
| 00:11.21 | Elive_user96 | <designed> |
| 00:14.34 | Elive_user96 | Wizard, can Elive/Linux be used to program hardware? |
| 00:17.36 | Elive_user96 | Hmh. And are codecs for most audio/video formats available with XMMS? |
| 00:17.51 | wizard123 | for mplayer |
| 00:18.07 | NathanExplosion | I've not had trouble playing any audo/video in elive so far |
| 00:18.13 | Elive_user96 | mplayer? |
| 00:18.30 | Elive_user96 | Ah, mplayer. Yes. XMMS is only for audio. |
| 00:18.59 | wizard123 | yeah, it is a bit outdated |
| 00:19.09 | wizard123 | if you want good audio player, install amarok :) |
| 00:19.23 | NathanExplosion | i didn't like amarok as much as xmms |
| 00:20.00 | NathanExplosion | that's just me |
| 00:20.08 | Elive_user96 | Does a player exist [like xmms] that can play both audio and video files? |
| 00:20.09 | wizard123 | but he can give it a try |
| 00:20.16 | wizard123 | mplayer :P |
| 00:20.25 | NathanExplosion | of course he can lol |
| 00:21.22 | Elive_user96 | Hehe. |
| 00:22.32 | Elive_user96 | As for the programming of drivers / Could you tell me a good place to start learning that? |
| 00:22.59 | wizard123 | hmm.. i'm not very good programmer |
| 00:23.15 | wizard123 | you want to write kernel modules? for example device drivers ? |
| 00:23.22 | wizard123 | or viedo drivers for x ? |
| 00:23.23 | Elive_user96 | Yes. |
| 00:23.30 | Elive_user96 | Device drivers. |
| 00:23.49 | wizard123 | hmm, than look for kernel-hacking-howto |
| 00:24.07 | Elive_user96 | Okaz. |
| 00:24.11 | Elive_user96 | <Okay.> |
| 00:24.38 | Elive_user96 | Mhm. z/y. Is it possible to change the keyboard layout? |
| 00:24.54 | wizard123 | sure |
| 00:24.59 | wizard123 | use elpanel |
| 00:26.18 | Elive_user96 | Hr. Cool. ^^ |
| 00:26.33 | Elive_user96 | That seems to be unique to Elive... |
| 00:28.14 | wizard123 | yes ;) |
| 00:28.19 | wizard123 | but i hate this app |
| 00:28.23 | wizard123 | ;D |
| 00:28.28 | Elive_user96 | It looks weird, at least. |
| 00:28.37 | DvineLord | should be a console app for keyboard layout |
| 00:29.11 | wizard123 | there is |
| 00:29.15 | wizard123 | setxkbmap |
| 00:29.32 | DvineLord | probably same app used during installation? |
| 00:30.38 | Elive_user96 | Hmh. |
| 00:31.36 | Elive_user96 | Fine. I think most of my urgent questions have been answered and I am now going to install Elive on my harddrive... it`s quite a good feeling to get rid of Windows forever and make the first steps into a new life. |
| 00:32.03 | Elive_user96 | Catch you later! Thanks for the help! |
| 00:32.10 | Elive_user96 | Ciao ^^ |
| 00:32.20 | NathanExplosion | bye |
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| 00:32.42 | wizard123 | hehe |
| 00:32.55 | NathanExplosion | :-O |
| 00:33.05 | wizard123 | 'start new life' |
| 00:33.16 | NathanExplosion | a bit dramatic |
| 00:33.25 | wizard123 | romantic ;) |
| 00:33.35 | NathanExplosion | whatever you wanna call it |
| 00:33.44 | wizard123 | never mind |
| 00:33.51 | NathanExplosion | lol |
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| 00:37.11 | NathanExplosion | I didn't even know what linux was a few months ago.. |
| 00:37.50 | wizard123 | really ? |
| 00:37.59 | wizard123 | is elive your first distro ? |
| 00:38.31 | NathanExplosion | Yeah, not to say I hadn't heard about it. Seen it stuff about it and heard other people talk about it but really had no clue. |
| 00:38.34 | DvineLord | i usually indulge myself in linux for month or two |
| 00:38.35 | DvineLord | then drop it |
| 00:38.36 | DvineLord | =) |
| 00:38.47 | NathanExplosion | lol DvineLord |
| 00:39.05 | NathanExplosion | I've always used... |
| 00:39.15 | Theoden-e17 | I have used linux and bsd exclusively since 1999 |
| 00:39.17 | DvineLord | =) |
| 00:39.25 | DvineLord | i tried installing freebsd |
| 00:39.30 | DvineLord | never got it to load into x |
| 00:39.41 | DvineLord | took a unix class a couple years ago |
| 00:39.43 | DvineLord | used solaris |
| 00:39.52 | DvineLord | but i have no use for unix |
| 00:40.24 | DvineLord | wouldnt mind having a unix managed NAS and FTPd |
| 00:40.33 | NathanExplosion | the main thing I had associated linux was with hacking for some reason? |
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| 00:41.36 | DvineLord | cause its open source? |
| 00:41.39 | DvineLord | and u can change things |
| 00:41.48 | DvineLord | as far a cracking and stuff |
| 00:41.49 | Thybo | hey DvineLord :) |
| 00:41.51 | DvineLord | windows is better |
| 00:41.52 | DvineLord | hey |
| 00:42.01 | wizard123 | Thybo: hello :] |
| 00:42.06 | DvineLord | i remember screwing with aol 4 peeps |
| 00:42.08 | DvineLord | using proggies |
| 00:42.10 | wizard123 | DvineLord: could you stop trolling ? |
| 00:42.13 | DvineLord | proggies arent even around anymore |
| 00:42.15 | keyra | wizard123: hi |
| 00:42.20 | Thybo | hey wizard123 :):) |
| 00:42.25 | wizard123 | what's up ? |
| 00:42.26 | Thybo | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:42.26 | DvineLord | trolling as in talking about stuff other then elive? |
| 00:42.41 | DvineLord | or just coming in a channel to idle? |
| 00:43.01 | wizard123 | no, trolling is talking about other stuff without conclusions |
| 00:43.06 | wizard123 | like 'windows is better' |
| 00:43.13 | DvineLord | i needa archive the linux knowledge i gained the last few weeks |
| 00:43.18 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:43.25 | DvineLord | its scattered over alot of notes |
| 00:43.26 | Thybo | wizard123, yes it is, and so what? |
| 00:43.32 | wizard123 | nothing |
| 00:43.34 | Thybo | hehe |
| 00:43.36 | Thybo | hehehe:p |
| 00:43.46 | NathanExplosion | chocolate is better than vanilla....just messing |
| 00:43.48 | wizard123 | but making such statements is pointless |
| 00:43.53 | DvineLord | hell yea |
| 00:43.56 | DvineLord | chocolate ownz |
| 00:44.04 | DvineLord | dark chocolate |
| 00:44.06 | DvineLord | mmmmmmmmm |
| 00:44.11 | DvineLord | i bought 2lbs of raw cacao |
| 00:44.14 | DvineLord | shits good |
| 00:44.18 | DvineLord | specially blended into smoothies |
| 00:44.22 | DvineLord | tastes like chocolate chips |
| 00:44.25 | DvineLord | but completely raw |
| 00:44.30 | DvineLord | and i had the crillo strain |
| 00:44.30 | NathanExplosion | what have I done? |
| 00:44.32 | keyra | DvineLord: bee ]:) |
| 00:44.34 | DvineLord | id recommend to all |
| 00:44.40 | DvineLord | best psychoactive strain |
| 00:45.25 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 00:45.33 | wizard123 | DvineLord: not again.. please.. |
| 00:45.39 | DvineLord | hah |
| 00:45.43 | DvineLord | who are u roxville? |
| 00:45.45 | DvineLord | get off my case |
| 00:46.07 | wizard123 | we all heared about cafeinated cocks, natural drugs, and other nice ideas.. |
| 00:46.17 | DvineLord | im sorry i got hobbies |
| 00:46.44 | wizard123 | we *all* do |
| 00:49.14 | wizard123 | Thybo: did you hack anything interesting last days ? |
| 00:49.43 | Thybo | lol |
| 00:49.58 | Thybo | appart from the office's routeur to be able to play age of empires 2 at work, no |
| 00:50.39 | licensedorchid | um. I dont want to be a hater, but it is a router. |
| 00:50.40 | wizard123 | routeur ? |
| 00:51.01 | wizard123 | ^^ |
| 00:52.12 | Thybo | yeah its coz in french its routeur heheh |
| 00:52.22 | licensedorchid | c'est bon. |
| 00:55.02 | licensedorchid | keyra how are you? |
| 00:55.16 | keyra | licensedorchid: very good, thx :) |
| 00:55.27 | licensedorchid | keyra, what do you know? |
| 00:55.34 | wizard123 | oui oui, je t aime francaise :/ |
| 00:55.43 | Thybo | loooooooooooool wizard123 :d:d:d |
| 00:55.46 | Thybo | u rock the hell hahahha |
| 00:56.18 | wizard123 | :P |
| 00:56.53 | licensedorchid | apt mexico |
| 00:56.55 | apt | methinks mexico is a dirty dirty place, or where the gnomes come from |
| 00:57.03 | licensedorchid | apt france |
| 00:57.04 | apt | hmm... france is the father of the skiff cluster, or a country in Europe, or spending huge amounts of time on handhelds.org. see also: ~praise france |
| 00:57.30 | licensedorchid | apt korea |
| 00:57.30 | apt | it has been said that korea is a country located in East Asia |
| 00:57.31 | wizard123 | ~praise france |
| 00:57.32 | apt | All hail france! |
| 00:57.44 | wizard123 | apt USA |
| 00:57.45 | apt | somebody said usa was a world superpower led by a two house Congressional government, judiciary, and President George W. Bush or The United States Army. |
| 00:57.55 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 00:58.02 | licensedorchid | If only that last bit was true. |
| 00:58.06 | wizard123 | superpowder rather :/ |
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| 00:58.36 | wizard123 | CCCP forever |
| 00:58.44 | licensedorchid | CCCP? |
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| 01:00.24 | wizard123 | ussr |
| 01:00.26 | wizard123 | ;) |
| 01:00.28 | wizard123 | apt ussr |
| 01:01.58 | licensedorchid | apt red square |
| 01:02.20 | licensedorchid | apt socialism |
| 01:02.21 | apt | hmm... socialism is the concept of economic freedom;; the opposite of capitalism |
| 01:02.28 | licensedorchid | apt capitalism |
| 01:02.29 | apt | methinks capitalism is a misspelling of capi-tale-ism, or stinking like shit, or blows goats, or like unix, those who don't understand it are doomed to reinvent it... poorly. |
| 01:02.48 | licensedorchid | apt anarchy |
| 01:02.49 | apt | methinks anarchy is the single best way to live and work.... take KDE for example. |
| 01:02.55 | licensedorchid | nice. |
| 01:03.16 | wizard123 | anarKy ? |
| 01:04.28 | wizard123 | KDE rulez |
| 01:04.40 | licensedorchid | apt story |
| 01:04.41 | apt | methinks story is he crazy, he thought as he walked along the pier and gazed at the dark water, then there in the water, he saw a black creature covered in scales |
| 01:04.44 | wizard123 | :) i like it very much and use it in everyday work |
| 01:04.52 | licensedorchid | apt gnome |
| 01:04.53 | apt | i heard gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, or not the same as gtk but the gnome developers don't know that, or a spatial file manager |
| 01:05.06 | licensedorchid | apt kde |
| 01:05.07 | apt | The next major revision of KDE -- KDE 4.0 -- will be released when it's ready, not before. We don't know when that will be, despite the dot article. It will most likely be in 2007 or 2008, but it could be later. |
| 01:05.20 | licensedorchid | apt e |
| 01:05.21 | apt | it has been said that e is a little more than 2, but less than 3 or portuguese for and, or very roughly 2.71828182, or mc^2 |
| 01:05.29 | licensedorchid | apt enlightenment |
| 01:05.30 | apt | Fast, flexible and very extensible Window Manager. URL: http://www.enlightenment.org/ |
| 01:05.48 | wizard123 | apt ports |
| 01:05.49 | apt | i heard ports is http://www.debian.org/ports/, or http://www.isi.edu/in-notes/iana/assignments/port-numbers, or the FreeBSD ports system etc etc, or http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm |
| 01:06.17 | wizard123 | apt troll |
| 01:06.17 | apt | it has been said that troll is a race on some muds; a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or ... |
| 01:06.18 | wizard123 | ;) |
| 01:08.46 | licensedorchid | apt go fuck yourself.(for shits and giggles) |
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| 01:12.17 | DvineLord | hah |
| 01:20.51 | DvineLord | how do u check installation time? |
| 01:25.29 | wizard123 | i usually look at clock |
| 01:25.50 | wizard123 | ;) |
| 01:26.30 | wizard123 | ok, i need a cigarette |
| 01:26.31 | wizard123 | brb |
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| 01:28.04 | yawlright | does apt-get dist upgrade still work? |
| 01:29.22 | licensedorchid | I don't believe it does with elive. But I am not sure. |
| 01:30.13 | Theoden-e17 | Yes it does with elive. |
| 01:30.49 | Theoden-e17 | apt works as normal in elive - remember it's debian - the special stuff is E related. |
| 01:30.50 | apt | that's too long, Theoden-e17 |
| 01:31.02 | Theoden-e17 | ?? |
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| 01:31.17 | keyra | Theoden-e17: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 01:31.20 | cgwyllie | hiya folks |
| 01:31.39 | cgwyllie | how's the world doing? |
| 01:32.32 | cgwyllie | that's quite a quiet world atm... |
| 01:34.00 | cgwyllie | has anyone any idea why/how to solve this: when i try to install nfs-kernel-server so i can share files with my other machine, it wants to remove all of efl and e17? |
| 01:34.14 | keyra | cgwyllie: Hey buddy, you want help installing that kernel ? check http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Kernel%2C_drivers_and_stuff |
| 01:34.16 | DvineLord | nice |
| 01:34.28 | licensedorchid | I had the same problem yersterday |
| 01:34.33 | licensedorchid | with libc6 |
| 01:34.35 | charasky | keyra is my girlfriend |
| 01:34.49 | keyra | charasky: in your dreams ;) |
| 01:34.56 | charasky | i love keyra |
| 01:35.00 | DvineLord | keyra paid me lastnight for sex |
| 01:35.07 | cgwyllie | lol |
| 01:35.07 | charasky | xDDDD |
| 01:35.14 | keyra | DvineLord: please... stop, or I'll call to the op's to kick you :P |
| 01:35.16 | cgwyllie | hmm, any hint of a solution to the problem? |
| 01:35.23 | DvineLord | erm |
| 01:35.24 | charasky | jajajajaj |
| 01:35.37 | charasky | keyra sex |
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| 01:35.52 | licensedorchid | I had to rebuild... Does synaptec identify and broken deps? |
| 01:35.57 | licensedorchid | any... |
| 01:36.03 | DvineLord | well thats no fair |
| 01:36.10 | cgwyllie | hmm, don't think so.. |
| 01:36.15 | cgwyllie | rebuild what sorry? |
| 01:36.22 | Elive_user69 | hi, does anyone know an easy-to-install command line msn client? |
| 01:36.55 | wizard123 | hmm.. never hearad about something like this |
| 01:36.58 | cgwyllie | apt-get install tmsnc |
| 01:37.03 | Elive_user69 | kool |
| 01:37.04 | Elive_user69 | thx |
| 01:37.05 | wizard123 | but you may check sf.net |
| 01:37.07 | wizard123 | :) |
| 01:37.08 | cgwyllie | that'll do the trick :) |
| 01:37.15 | cgwyllie | tmsnc FTW :P |
| 01:37.19 | Elive_user69 | thx cgwyllie |
| 01:37.23 | cgwyllie | npp :) |
| 01:37.24 | licensedorchid | I had to rebuild elive. |
| 01:37.26 | cgwyllie | np* |
| 01:37.40 | cgwyllie | ouch....ok, that's not the solution i was looking for :P |
| 01:37.54 | cgwyllie | well....i deleted it once before and fixed it...but i'd rather not do it again |
| 01:38.27 | licensedorchid | sorry. |
| 01:38.37 | cgwyllie | it's cool thanks :) |
| 01:38.51 | cgwyllie | suppose i should upgrade this machine anyways...it's still on 0.5 |
| 01:38.58 | cgwyllie | and the other one's already on gem |
| 01:39.32 | cgwyllie | does the installer's upgrade feature actually work now? like properly doesn't delete any of your files? |
| 01:40.00 | licensedorchid | yeah, it works great |
| 01:40.12 | licensedorchid | at least, it did for me. ymmv. |
| 01:40.26 | cgwyllie | cool, in that case....i think it'll be a long night :P |
| 01:40.34 | cgwyllie | i might just do that.. |
| 01:41.19 | cgwyllie | what's ymmv mean? |
| 01:41.21 | Theoden-e17 | keyra blows goats |
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| 01:42.24 | licensedorchid | your milage may vary. |
| 01:42.34 | cgwyllie | ty :) |
| 01:43.32 | licensedorchid | np |
| 02:10.31 | cgwyllie | does anyone know why an eap I made won't load onto the menus or ibar..? |
| 02:10.57 | cgwyllie | i made it with the eap editor and put it into the /home/username/.e/e/applications/all folder |
| 02:11.21 | cgwyllie | and in entangle it shows up and i have dragged it into the ibar and hit save but alas, no icon.. |
| 02:14.40 | cgwyllie | ok sorry, nevermind |
| 02:14.48 | cgwyllie | it works now, randomly...hmm |
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| 02:28.40 | cgwyllie | night folks |
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| 02:57.42 | Theoden-e17 | Where is the default theme edj file kept? |
| 02:57.53 | withoutclass | in apt's pants |
| 02:58.11 | roxville | Theoden-e17, deafult for e17? |
| 02:58.20 | roxville | in /usr/share |
| 02:58.21 | Theoden-e17 | Yes. |
| 02:58.52 | Theoden-e17 | Really! |
| 02:59.04 | roxville | /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes |
| 02:59.35 | roxville | that's where the themes go that you install via apt/synaptic/aptitude |
| 03:00.47 | roxville | apt, make-eap |
| 03:00.49 | apt | well, make-eap is http://deepcode.atspace.org/make-eap.html |
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| 03:03.25 | parky | hello |
| 03:03.30 | withoutclass | hi parky |
| 03:03.33 | parky | anyone here know how to install srv into elive? |
| 03:03.39 | keyra | parky: hi |
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| 03:04.12 | withoutclass | apt srv |
| 03:04.12 | apt | srv is probably Stevie Ray Vaughn. He was a darn fine blues guitarist. |
| 03:04.13 | parky | i am trying to make a ventrilo server on my computer. and i do not know how to install the Srv file |
| 03:04.27 | withoutclass | i dont know how youre going to manage to install steve ray vaughn on yoru comp |
| 03:04.28 | withoutclass | but good luck |
| 03:04.32 | parky | ... apt srv *filename*? |
| 03:05.36 | parky | anyone? |
| 03:05.44 | parky | withoutclass... thats didnt work |
| 03:05.51 | parky | keyra do you know? |
| 03:05.54 | withoutclass | parky, lol, it was a joke |
| 03:06.05 | withoutclass | what an srv file |
| 03:06.41 | parky | idk but it has its own look if you wana see go to ventrilo and download the linux server package |
| 03:08.14 | withoutclass | ill poke around |
| 03:08.16 | withoutclass | sit titght |
| 03:08.35 | Theoden-e17 | roxville: Is it possible to send me the default.edj - I think it got deleted. :-/ |
| 03:09.08 | roxville | Theoden-e17, i think you can install it via synaptic :) |
| 03:09.16 | parky | wait |
| 03:09.24 | parky | got it.. it was an opend up tar.gz |
| 03:09.31 | parky | abut idk how to install that either |
| 03:10.03 | withoutclass | well |
| 03:10.06 | parky | how do you install tar.gz then.. |
| 03:10.14 | withoutclass | if you are confused, i would go on the vent forum |
| 03:10.22 | parky | it doenst say anything |
| 03:10.25 | parky | no help whatso ever |
| 03:10.29 | withoutclass | www.google.com probably has the answer you are looking for with tar.gz files |
| 03:10.46 | withoutclass | the forum, if you post a question, someone will respond, then there will be something |
| 03:10.52 | parky | you dont know how to install them? arn't tar.gz files common |
| 03:10.56 | Bryanstein_ | parky, |
| 03:11.12 | Bryanstein_ | where did you get ventrilo from ? |
| 03:11.14 | withoutclass | i can nenver remember |
| 03:11.20 | withoutclass | so i generally look it upt |
| 03:11.31 | withoutclass | its prolly like, tar -xvfm or somecrap |
| 03:11.41 | Bryanstein_ | to untar |
| 03:11.46 | Bryanstein_ | tar zxvf |
| 03:11.54 | withoutclass | there ya go |
| 03:11.56 | withoutclass | lol |
| 03:12.00 | Bryanstein_ | lol |
| 03:12.02 | withoutclass | i knew there was an x and an f |
| 03:12.03 | Bryanstein_ | parky, |
| 03:12.08 | Bryanstein_ | lol |
| 03:12.12 | Bryanstein_ | withoutclass, |
| 03:12.15 | withoutclass | im so noob |
| 03:12.24 | Bryanstein_ | no you actually aren't |
| 03:12.41 | Bryanstein_ | roxville, says he's a noob too but he knows A LOT |
| 03:12.50 | Bryanstein_ | you know a lot too |
| 03:13.08 | Bryanstein_ | I guess I'm a noobie too..neophyte |
| 03:13.20 | roxville | :D |
| 03:13.29 | Bryanstein_ | you're still a noobie until you've used linux for maybe 10 years |
| 03:13.38 | Bryanstein_ | how sad lol |
| 03:13.52 | roxville | ok... 7 and counting... |
| 03:14.09 | withoutclass | now |
| 03:14.18 | withoutclass | i think maybe im up to a total of 2 |
| 03:14.23 | parky | ya? |
| 03:14.24 | withoutclass | cuz i for sometime i didnt have any |
| 03:14.26 | Bryanstein_ | lol hmmm I started using Linux in 98 or 99 |
| 03:14.28 | roxville | ever-noob |
| 03:14.35 | withoutclass | <-perma noob |
| 03:14.37 | Bryanstein_ | I installed it in 96 but it finished in 98 |
| 03:14.56 | roxville | good one withoutclass :) |
| 03:15.02 | withoutclass | :P |
| 03:15.30 | Bryanstein_ | actually I was using Linux way back in the day |
| 03:15.58 | Bryanstein_ | Mozart use to come over and help me install my rpm's |
| 03:16.16 | Bryanstein_ | then chopan told me to use debian |
| 03:16.21 | Bryanstein_ | anyway |
| 03:16.25 | Bryanstein_ | parky, |
| 03:16.27 | Bryanstein_ | where are you |
| 03:16.48 | parky | what |
| 03:16.50 | roxville | i'm here |
| 03:16.54 | roxville | oh |
| 03:16.56 | parky | what happens once you untar it |
| 03:17.25 | Bryanstein_ | where did you get your ventrilo from ?> |
| 03:17.33 | parky | www.ventrilo.com |
| 03:17.58 | parky | the linux server version |
| 03:18.39 | Bryanstein_ | there is no linux client there |
| 03:18.54 | withoutclass | nope |
| 03:18.57 | withoutclass | hes installing the server |
| 03:19.02 | parky | server |
| 03:19.04 | withoutclass | which if you scroll down there is :P |
| 03:19.08 | Bryanstein_ | I know so how can you test the server |
| 03:19.19 | parky | i have a pc |
| 03:19.29 | withoutclass | im on a pc right now |
| 03:19.33 | Bryanstein_ | Linux i386 - 32bit |
| 03:19.33 | Bryanstein_ | N/A |
| 03:19.33 | Bryanstein_ | |
| 03:19.33 | Bryanstein_ | In development |
| 03:19.37 | withoutclass | do you mean you have windows? |
| 03:19.38 | withoutclass | lol |
| 03:19.42 | parky | yes |
| 03:19.42 | Bryanstein_ | lol withoutclass |
| 03:19.57 | parky | i have windows on my other computer |
| 03:20.03 | parky | the one i would use vent with |
| 03:20.04 | Bryanstein_ | well generally...when you untar things |
| 03:20.11 | keyra | parky: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 03:20.18 | Bryanstein_ | there will be instruction there on how to build and compile it |
| 03:20.27 | parky | wait what? |
| 03:20.33 | Bryanstein_ | roxville, |
| 03:20.35 | parky | yah but where? |
| 03:20.42 | parky | keyra what was that? |
| 03:20.58 | parky | how do you get to the untar file |
| 03:21.00 | parky | where does it go |
| 03:21.21 | Bryanstein_ | wow |
| 03:21.27 | Bryanstein_ | ultra newbie |
| 03:21.29 | Bryanstein_ | ok |
| 03:21.31 | parky | i know |
| 03:21.38 | Bryanstein_ | hmmm |
| 03:21.45 | Bryanstein_ | how can I make this easy for you |
| 03:21.47 | parky | i checked the etc |
| 03:21.51 | Bryanstein_ | look under the couch |
| 03:21.58 | parky | come on please |
| 03:22.08 | parky | just tell me where it untar it to |
| 03:22.10 | Bryanstein_ | ok ...it;s on the stove |
| 03:22.17 | Bryanstein_ | ok serious |
| 03:22.34 | Bryanstein_ | in the directory that you did tar zxvf file.tar.gz |
| 03:22.49 | parky | ... |
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| 03:23.00 | parky | it should be in the same directory? |
| 03:23.02 | Bryanstein_ | ok so you are on elive now parky |
| 03:23.09 | Bryanstein_ | doesn't matter for now |
| 03:23.10 | parky | yes |
| 03:23.14 | Bryanstein_ | it won't install there |
| 03:23.17 | roxville | Theoden-e17, have you seen the new forum? |
| 03:23.22 | parky | ? Y |
| 03:23.46 | Theoden-e17 | roxville: Right now I'm still trying to fix my screwup. |
| 03:23.49 | Bryanstein_ | because you may have to compile it and when it compiles things go in the right place |
| 03:23.57 | Theoden-e17 | What is the name of the default theme? |
| 03:23.58 | Bryanstein_ | the place the builder wants it to go |
| 03:23.58 | roxville | Theoden-e17, http://forum.elivecd.org/index.php |
| 03:24.03 | roxville | ok Theoden-e17 |
| 03:24.12 | parky | ? |
| 03:24.15 | roxville | if you can't install it, of course i'll send it |
| 03:24.31 | parky | what? |
| 03:24.38 | roxville | Theoden-e17, the default e17 or default elive? |
| 03:24.46 | Theoden-e17 | e17 |
| 03:25.09 | parky | so wait if i cant be on elive and i want to compile it on elive how am i supposed to do that |
| 03:25.15 | parky | you want me to use putty to compile it |
| 03:25.17 | parky | thats crazy |
| 03:25.26 | roxville | Theoden-e17, default.edj |
| 03:26.14 | withoutclass | parky, is there a readme floating around in there for vent |
| 03:26.40 | parky | kinda it is an html file |
| 03:26.52 | parky | but it just tells how to mod the files once installed |
| 03:26.53 | Theoden-e17 | roxville: default.edj is not in synaptic |
| 03:27.03 | parky | so once i get the files in the right place i will be fine |
| 03:27.07 | parky | i know they dont install |
| 03:27.22 | Bryanstein_ | parky |
| 03:27.26 | parky | but they need to be compiled in the right place and idk how to do that |
| 03:27.29 | parky | ? |
| 03:27.36 | Bryanstein_ | noooo |
| 03:27.48 | parky | ? |
| 03:27.54 | Bryanstein_ | when you run the stuff that was in the tar.gz file |
| 03:27.57 | Bryanstein_ | it compiles |
| 03:28.06 | Bryanstein_ | and goes where it needs to automagically |
| 03:28.14 | parky | okay |
| 03:28.15 | Bryanstein_ | like Presto Chango |
| 03:28.20 | Theoden-e17 | roxville: can you send it - the one from the ce install? |
| 03:28.21 | parky | so where is that because i need to alter those files |
| 03:28.32 | Bryanstein_ | no |
| 03:28.36 | Bryanstein_ | how about this |
| 03:28.44 | Bryanstein_ | did you do tar zxvf |
| 03:28.49 | parky | yes |
| 03:28.55 | parky | and it worked |
| 03:29.03 | parky | but idk what that means |
| 03:29.08 | Bryanstein_ | lol |
| 03:29.10 | parky | just keep talking |
| 03:29.19 | Bryanstein_ | ok parky...I'll do it in the private message |
| 03:29.35 | Bryanstein_ | there I can yell at you and no one will know that I'm a bad guy |
| 03:29.44 | parky | lol |
| 03:29.49 | Bryanstein_ | we can't just hi jack the channel with this here |
| 03:29.58 | Bryanstein_ | I'll dl it and install it |
| 03:30.12 | Bryanstein_ | just because I'm Superman |
| 03:30.21 | parky | i thought you were gonna prvt me |
| 03:30.31 | parky | thank you so much already btw |
| 03:31.00 | Bryanstein_ | I will |
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| 03:31.39 | Bryanstein_ | did you get the pm's parky |
| 03:32.07 | parky | yah |
| 03:32.12 | parky | i got it |
| 03:32.17 | parky | can you see mine? |
| 03:32.42 | Bryanstein_ | no I can't |
| 03:33.15 | parky | ... |
| 03:33.16 | parky | shit |
| 03:33.26 | Bryanstein_ | well calm down now |
| 03:33.32 | Bryanstein_ | I have another solution |
| 03:33.38 | parky | did you get that? |
| 03:33.48 | Bryanstein_ | no I didn't |
| 03:33.53 | Theoden-e17 | Damn roxville I can't find where it saved it. |
| 03:34.04 | roxville | lol |
| 03:34.19 | roxville | Theoden-e17, it's in /home/Downloads/xchat |
| 03:34.34 | parky | wait hold on i think i got it... |
| 03:34.37 | parky | i just tested it |
| 03:34.45 | parky | and it is working... but that is through a local network |
| 03:34.57 | parky | leme open up ports on firewall and see if it still works |
| 03:35.11 | Bryanstein_ | lol see you didn't need my help |
| 03:35.27 | Bryanstein_ | I guess it's just a bin there and you don't need to compile it |
| 03:36.28 | parky | well i did compile it first... then i ran something and did something else.. and idk |
| 03:36.29 | parky | w/e |
| 03:36.37 | parky | i blindly installed it basicly |
| 03:37.08 | Bryanstein_ | wow this sucks |
| 03:37.32 | Bryanstein_ | all the file just went in the directory...they didn't even make a folder for this stuff |
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| 03:38.31 | roxville | Theoden-e17, why are you logging out all the time |
| 03:39.07 | parky | yah thats why i thought it didnt work |
| 03:40.19 | Bryanstein_ | oh parky this is easy |
| 03:40.52 | parky | yah but i didnt realize it worked cause it wasnt in my file system |
| 03:40.58 | parky | and the second i reboot i gonna have to do it again |
| 03:42.50 | Bryanstein_ | have to do what again |
| 03:42.58 | Bryanstein_ | that htm file is the how to |
| 03:43.33 | parky | lol i know but shit i cant get admin to work |
| 03:43.37 | parky | maybe it isnt working... |
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| 03:44.32 | parky | did you make yours? |
| 03:45.23 | Bryanstein_ | I'm starting to edit th config parky |
| 03:46.12 | parky | and it is just in a regular file not under etc? |
| 03:46.35 | Bryanstein_ | do this do you have winrar? |
| 03:46.56 | parky | winrar... idk |
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| 03:47.08 | parky | no |
| 03:47.13 | parky | not under etc anyways |
| 03:47.18 | parky | what is it |
| 03:47.30 | Bryanstein_ | well if you don't know then you don't have it |
| 03:47.38 | Bryanstein_ | do you have winscp? |
| 03:48.08 | parky | no |
| 03:48.12 | parky | should i get these? |
| 03:48.16 | Bryanstein_ | ok look..i'll put this file on my server and you look at it on your windows box |
| 03:48.17 | parky | what are they for |
| 03:48.28 | parky | okay |
| 03:48.30 | keyra | Bryanstein_: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
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| 03:49.29 | parky | damn nice site |
| 03:49.34 | parky | your a mac user? |
| 03:49.45 | Bryanstein_ | lol when did you see my site ? |
| 03:49.51 | Bryanstein_ | I don't recall linking it |
| 03:50.10 | Bryanstein_ | I have a mac yes but I run Linux on it too |
| 03:50.12 | parky | lol dont need to |
| 03:50.28 | Bryanstein_ | you said damn nice site |
| 03:50.28 | parky | i just pinged you and went to your external adress |
| 03:50.35 | Bryanstein_ | oh ok |
| 03:50.40 | parky | hehe |
| 03:50.50 | parky | i am not really noob. i just noob when it comes to linux |
| 03:50.54 | parky | i just started this year |
| 03:50.59 | parky | but with pc i know how to do lots |
| 03:51.31 | Bryanstein_ | oh...see my ip is not cloaked now |
| 03:51.46 | Bryanstein_ | that is not good...well it doesn't matter really but hmmm |
| 03:51.54 | parky | lol ohh sorry |
| 03:52.22 | Bryanstein | ok |
| 03:52.28 | parky | yah well.. obviously cloaking it didnt matter if i uncloaked it that easy |
| 03:52.41 | Bryanstein | well no it wasn't cloaked |
| 03:52.45 | Bryanstein | check now |
| 03:52.48 | parky | yah |
| 03:53.22 | parky | 24-217-192-69 |
| 03:53.23 | parky | ... |
| 03:53.28 | Bryanstein | lol hmmm doesn't seem to be cloaked now either |
| 03:53.30 | parky | i can still get it |
| 03:53.33 | parky | lol |
| 03:53.33 | Bryanstein | hmmm what happened |
| 03:53.37 | Bryanstein | yes I see myself too |
| 03:53.42 | Bryanstein | not cloaked |
| 03:53.44 | parky | i think i am messing it up |
| 03:53.48 | Bryanstein | no not you |
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| 03:54.09 | parky | aww you dont want to give me enough credit to do that lol |
| 03:54.11 | Bryanstein | let me try somethint else |
| 03:54.18 | parky | lol |
| 03:54.21 | Bryanstein | nooo a user can't interfere with that |
| 03:54.27 | roxville | Theoden-e17, i hope it worked... i am off for a while now |
| 03:54.36 | Bryanstein | I run my own irc channel trust me you can't |
| 03:54.43 | parky | i am finding it from pc.. |
| 03:54.53 | DvineLord | u run yellow dog linux? |
| 03:54.56 | Bryanstein | it matters not where you do it |
| 03:55.08 | Bryanstein | Yes DvineLord I have been a YD user from way back |
| 03:55.34 | DvineLord | i thought it kool |
| 03:55.50 | Bryanstein | yes it nice |
| 03:55.54 | DvineLord | and i used this other ppc distro |
| 03:55.58 | DvineLord | but i think its dead now |
| 03:56.03 | Bryanstein | mandrake use to be ppc |
| 03:56.18 | Bryanstein | I ran debian and freebsd too |
| 03:56.34 | DvineLord | koo |
| 03:56.43 | DvineLord | i thought it might of been puppy linux |
| 03:56.46 | DvineLord | but i dont think that is right |
| 03:56.48 | Bryanstein | hmmm wondering why my cloak is not more |
| 03:57.02 | Bryanstein | hmmm maybe puppy not sure... |
| 03:57.05 | Bryanstein | lemme think |
| 03:57.15 | Bryanstein | I had a couple ppc distros |
| 03:57.35 | Bryanstein | lol I can't remember |
| 03:57.55 | DvineLord | probably linuxppc |
| 03:58.05 | DvineLord | that was probably the other one i tried |
| 03:58.24 | Bryanstein | lol there is another one I just deleted from my drive the other day |
| 03:58.39 | Bryanstein | parky, did you go to system status ? |
| 03:58.41 | Bryanstein | on my page |
| 03:59.31 | Theoden-e17 | Bryanstein: May I pm you? |
| 04:00.16 | DvineLord | i want one of the ydl ps3 |
| 04:00.19 | DvineLord | =) |
| 04:00.43 | DvineLord | thatll be my next pc |
| 04:00.43 | DvineLord | =) |
| 04:00.46 | Bryanstein | yes Theoden-e17 |
| 04:00.48 | parky | hey |
| 04:00.51 | parky | bryanstien |
| 04:01.02 | parky | how do i fully get rid of vent and start over |
| 04:01.03 | Bryanstein | yes it is nice DvineLord |
| 04:01.12 | Bryanstein | just rm the files |
| 04:01.29 | parky | when i ran them it didnt put anything elsewhere? |
| 04:01.36 | Bryanstein | nope |
| 04:01.43 | Bryanstein | hit ctrl + c |
| 04:01.44 | parky | hmm.... |
| 04:01.46 | Bryanstein | on putty |
| 04:01.48 | Bryanstein | then do this |
| 04:02.01 | parky | brb restarting comp then |
| 04:02.08 | parky | idk why its still running server |
| 04:15.51 | DvineLord | whats better |
| 04:15.54 | DvineLord | lynx or elinks? |
| 04:20.35 | DvineLord | someone was asking earlier about text based msn client |
| 04:20.36 | DvineLord | http://thekonst.net/centericq |
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| 04:28.58 | Limericist | hi Bryanstein |
| 04:29.12 | Bryanstein | hey Limericist |
| 04:29.20 | Bryanstein | you get your prob fixed? |
| 04:29.22 | Limericist | I found the problem! |
| 04:29.28 | Bryanstein | lol which was? |
| 04:29.43 | Limericist | the module for ntfs, is a new version |
| 04:29.57 | keyra | Limericist: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 04:30.01 | Limericist | it tends to fragment |
| 04:30.16 | Limericist | I found the info on google |
| 04:30.36 | Limericist | they said remove files, and it may correct, it did |
| 04:30.45 | Bryanstein | lol that is crazy |
| 04:30.46 | Bryanstein | lol |
| 04:30.47 | Bryanstein | ha |
| 04:30.51 | Limericist | ntfs 3g or something like that |
| 04:30.55 | Bryanstein | see that darned ntfs |
| 04:31.10 | Limericist | yes, the module fragments the file list |
| 04:31.24 | DvineLord | u should chkdsk ur ntfs drives every so often |
| 04:31.26 | Limericist | and removing files can correct it |
| 04:31.55 | Limericist | it wasnt a chklst problem, but a fragmented list problem |
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| 04:32.22 | Limericist | I removed several backup files and now I can write to it |
| 04:33.05 | Limericist | all I did was put the exact error message into google and there it was |
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| 04:33.31 | Limericist | "operation not permitted" or some such bull |
| 04:33.36 | DvineLord | i ran partition magic to check for errors |
| 04:33.39 | sirenia | kewl |
| 04:33.45 | DvineLord | told me to change my drive into an extendedx partition |
| 04:33.50 | sirenia | this macirssi is nicer than xchat for mac |
| 04:33.55 | sirenia | sha la la.. |
| 04:33.57 | DvineLord | because of some 1024 cylinder barrior |
| 04:34.11 | Limericist | I had an extended partition, be careful of PM, it can waste your whole hard drive |
| 04:34.30 | Limericist | acronis is better than PM |
| 04:34.43 | Limericist | and acronis is linux friendly |
| 04:35.05 | DvineLord | owell |
| 04:35.13 | DvineLord | im running windows on this computer |
| 04:35.15 | Limericist | PM can change some stuff in your mbr inadvertantly, |
| 04:35.33 | Limericist | yes, PM in windows can screw you too |
| 04:35.36 | DvineLord | i should probably defrag my mft |
| 04:35.40 | DvineLord | and the other mft |
| 04:35.45 | DvineLord | forget what tis called |
| 04:36.11 | Limericist | I know that PM is very dangerous, I won't use it after several reformats because of it |
| 04:36.14 | DvineLord | only util i run in windows is usually ontrack easy recovery |
| 04:36.35 | DvineLord | i havent been screwed by it much |
| 04:36.46 | Limericist | DvineLord, better you get the program call snapshot |
| 04:36.51 | Limericist | called |
| 04:37.08 | Limericist | great for backing up partitions |
| 04:37.40 | Limericist | but it is proprietary, though a free version is easily found |
| 04:37.49 | Mutacion | bla |
| 04:37.57 | Limericist | bla bla |
| 04:38.24 | Mutacion | bla^3 ..sorry im trying to see whats macirssi can do |
| 04:38.28 | DvineLord | i think i wanna install virtual box again |
| 04:38.40 | Limericist | that is fun |
| 04:38.58 | DvineLord | or maybe a different one |
| 04:39.00 | DvineLord | virtualpc |
| 04:39.01 | Limericist | but honestly, be real careful of PM especially if you dual boot |
| 04:39.02 | DvineLord | =) |
| 04:39.05 | DvineLord | hah |
| 04:39.54 | Limericist | it will always say there is an error it can fix, and when you do POOF, you are sorry you allowed it to do it |
| 04:39.54 | DvineLord | anything else like virtual box? |
| 04:40.18 | DvineLord | well |
| 04:40.18 | Limericist | VMware |
| 04:40.22 | DvineLord | u needa check ur files |
| 04:40.29 | DvineLord | i had a .desktop file on ntfs drive |
| 04:40.38 | DvineLord | that i couldnt delete in windows |
| 04:40.43 | keyra | DvineLord: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 04:40.47 | DvineLord | kept trying to access with different live cds to delete |
| 04:40.48 | DvineLord | and i couldnt |
| 04:41.01 | DvineLord | so i finally booted linux mint and got it to delete |
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| 04:41.14 | DvineLord | then 70 files that wouldnt show up showed up again |
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| 04:41.18 | DvineLord | it was friggin weird |
| 04:41.24 | Limericist | :D I have already had that problem, but there is a little windows proggy that can clean that easy |
| 04:41.37 | DvineLord | but mint has been the nicest with ntfs so far |
| 04:41.38 | keyra | Limericist: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 04:41.54 | Limericist | Keyra, you are a cookie monster |
| 04:42.29 | Limericist | Hmm, I tried mint once, just a derivitive of Ubuntu |
| 04:42.44 | Limericist | elive rocks for me |
| 04:43.06 | Limericist | better our of 50 distros in linux I have tried |
| 04:43.12 | Limericist | *out |
| 04:43.34 | Limericist | may I ask a question? |
| 04:43.43 | Limericist | lol |
| 04:43.58 | Limericist | keyra, you are sleeping |
| 04:44.12 | keyra | Limericist: pong |
| 04:44.21 | Limericist | keyra, ping |
| 04:44.40 | Limericist | keyra, ntfs |
| 04:45.46 | DvineLord | keyra sleep |
| 04:45.57 | Limericist | :D |
| 04:46.10 | Limericist | keyra want a cookie? |
| 04:46.29 | Limericist | keyra, vodka |
| 04:47.02 | DvineLord | man |
| 04:47.31 | Limericist | nice talking to you DvineLord , thanks for the words |
| 04:47.37 | Limericist | bbl |
| 04:47.42 | DvineLord | latez |
| 04:50.33 | NathanExplosion | ugh |
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| 04:55.10 | NathanExplosion | wb |
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| 04:55.41 | Thybo | hello all i'm back sorry i went without saying :) |
| 04:55.48 | Thybo | went to see ratatouille haha |
| 04:55.51 | Thybo | very funny movie :d |
| 04:55.55 | keyra | Thybo: hi |
| 04:56.01 | Thybo | apt kill keyra |
| 04:56.10 | apt | ACTION shoots a inverse anti-proton gun at keyra |
| 04:56.10 | Thybo | apt mute keyra |
| 04:56.11 | apt | ACTION superglues keyra's lips together |
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| 04:58.51 | NathanExplosion | I fell asleep |
| 05:01.25 | Thybo | NathanExplosion, that happens what were you doing though ?:p |
| 05:01.40 | NathanExplosion | drinking |
| 05:02.25 | Thybo | hmm |
| 05:02.28 | Thybo | this explains that |
| 05:03.09 | NathanExplosion | i also debribe myself of sleep often 4 hrs a day |
| 05:03.43 | NathanExplosion | deprive* |
| 05:03.44 | NathanExplosion | wow |
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| 05:14.55 | Bryanstein | goodnight everyone |
| 05:15.27 | NathanExplosion | goodnight bryan |
| 05:16.48 | Thybo | goodning Bryanstein :) |
| 05:23.49 | NathanExplosion | I should do the same |
| 05:29.40 | Theoden-e17 | Nite |
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| 05:39.17 | amigamia | does wireless work with live cd this time around? |
| 05:40.02 | Thybo | amigamia, what wireless work? |
| 05:40.06 | Thybo | im wirelessly connected :) |
| 05:40.28 | amigamia | well |
| 05:40.46 | amigamia | i have a broadcomm and a netgear usb so 2 different ones. |
| 05:41.04 | amigamia | i tried it before with the other earlier version before this one out now but it didnt work |
| 05:41.18 | amigamia | thybo |
| 05:41.43 | Thybo | what happens? |
| 05:41.46 | Thybo | quick |
| 05:41.50 | Thybo | 3 mins battery left |
| 05:41.56 | Thybo | or can u come back tomorow? |
| 05:42.18 | Thybo | ill be there to awnser to u around 9 am time of washington dc + 1 :) |
| 05:42.20 | Thybo | i have to go |
| 05:42.23 | Thybo | 1% battery hehe |
| 05:43.41 | Ezep | he is crazy =) |
| 05:45.30 | NathanExplosion | yeah... |
| 05:45.38 | NathanExplosion | who isnt? |
| 05:47.47 | amigamia | i'm not |
| 05:48.01 | NathanExplosion | liar |
| 05:48.21 | amigamia | I AM NOT!~ |
| 05:48.27 | amigamia | what is the bonus disk? |
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| 06:07.18 | NathanExplosion | wb roxville |
| 06:16.11 | Theoden-e17 | Hey roxville |
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| 06:34.51 | preacher | i downloaded iso-is there any way i can just boot from iso instead of having to burn to a disk |
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| 06:46.37 | Begasus | morning peeps |
| 06:50.08 | preacher | morning |
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| 07:01.18 | ksryno | what is the original elive repository |
| 07:01.45 | ksryno | i changed the repo according to the news bulletin and it doesnt work |
| 07:06.58 | DvineLord | hah |
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| 07:26.45 | Elive_user22 | Good Morning |
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| 07:32.17 | anquietas | Is someone here? ^^ |
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| 07:38.51 | anquietas | ... okay, not this time. |
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| 08:27.15 | anquietas | Hmhm. |
| 08:27.30 | anquietas | Is it possible to run MacOS X applications on a Linux system? |
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| 08:50.24 | anquietas | Hello. |
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| 09:10.20 | marcfp | hi |
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| 10:05.39 | TuxMeister | sup guys |
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| 10:07.25 | cgwyllie | good morning :) |
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| 10:26.50 | Talus_Laptop | good morning |
| 10:30.27 | TuxMeister | mornin! |
| 10:31.04 | Talus_Laptop | anyone here developing enlightment? |
| 10:34.13 | mathmanp | Talus_Laptop, not really if you look for e developers #e might be a guess |
| 10:34.51 | Talus_Laptop | ok thank you mathmanp |
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| 10:54.11 | anquietas | Hmmm. I plugged in a second harddrive a couple of mins ago, but Elive does not seem to be able to access it. It does not show up in the file manager. |
| 10:54.14 | anquietas | Could someone help me? |
| 10:56.53 | Begas_ | you probly need to mount it ... |
| 10:57.07 | anquietas | How? |
| 10:57.41 | Begas_ | that's a good question ;) |
| 10:57.58 | Begas_ | I've always been spoiled wiht that in BeOS ... |
| 10:58.16 | Begas_ | first create a mountpoint |
| 10:58.21 | anquietas | And could this process damage it? There are pretty important files on that harddrive I would really hate to lose... |
| 10:58.27 | Begas_ | then mount the hd at that mountpoint |
| 10:58.42 | Begas_ | if your not sure best to leave it ... |
| 10:58.49 | Begas_ | but mounting doesn't hurt your files |
| 10:58.56 | Begas_ | iirc ;) |
| 10:59.48 | anquietas | Well, the HD has an NTFS filesystem; Does this matter? |
| 11:00.43 | Begas_ | I'm not sure in these matters anquietas ... I've been away to long in linux :s |
| 11:01.05 | anquietas | Hehe, what are you using now? |
| 11:01.52 | Begasus | now ... Elive ;) |
| 11:02.20 | anquietas | Ahah. Well, technically it is Linux. ^^ |
| 11:02.27 | Begasus | I don't have the ntfs partition mounted as there is nothing on it that I need |
| 11:02.31 | Begasus | :P |
| 11:02.42 | keyra | Begasus: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 11:02.52 | anquietas | Ahaha. |
| 11:03.14 | anquietas | Bots with a personality are funny. ^^ |
| 11:03.31 | Begasus | they should get a good slap now and then though ;) |
| 11:03.40 | anquietas | True. |
| 11:04.00 | Begasus | sdl_mixer is driving me nuts here .... :s |
| 11:04.16 | anquietas | What is it? |
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| 11:04.28 | Begasus | trying to compile it in ZETA and it's complaining that it cant find the vorbisfile.h header :s |
| 11:04.41 | anquietas | Mhm. |
| 11:05.05 | anquietas | Is the file available? O.o |
| 11:05.07 | Begasus | config log doesn't give me any specific reasson other that it can't find it ... |
| 11:05.11 | Begasus | yeah! :P |
| 11:05.43 | anquietas | You could copy its content directly into the source where it should be included... |
| 11:05.54 | anquietas | (that`s possibly a silly idea) |
| 11:05.55 | Begasus | it can find the lib ... just not the header ... |
| 11:06.03 | Begasus | already try'd ... |
| 11:06.48 | anquietas | How does it search for it? ... perhaps the compiler needs some environmental pathes... |
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| 11:07.33 | anquietas | Greetings Nathan. |
| 11:07.39 | Begasus | it has an iclude in the configure file |
| 11:07.43 | Begasus | 'lo NathanExplosion |
| 11:08.10 | anquietas | No typos? =P |
| 11:08.50 | Begasus | nope |
| 11:09.54 | anquietas | Hmhmh. |
| 11:10.07 | anquietas | Is this a known error? Probably Google knows more. |
| 11:10.58 | Begasus | I've been googling for a bit already ;) |
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| 11:14.03 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 11:14.14 | anquietas | sdl_mixer, yes? |
| 11:14.55 | Begasus | yep |
| 11:15.07 | Begasus | the others are ok so far ... |
| 11:15.17 | anquietas | vorbisfile.h is the only file that cannot be found? |
| 11:15.34 | Begasus | it's the only one it complains about yes |
| 11:15.39 | Begasus | smpeg is found |
| 11:16.31 | anquietas | I guess you are using the sdl-config to get the required SDL compilation options. |
| 11:17.48 | anquietas | How does the file look like? |
| 11:18.16 | Begasus | sdl-config? |
| 11:18.24 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 11:18.31 | anquietas | Are the pathes set correctly? |
| 11:18.45 | Begasus | as far as I can see they are ok |
| 11:18.58 | anquietas | Gee... I know such problems. It is always annoying because the solution is most likely pretty easy just not apparent... |
| 11:19.14 | Begasus | indeed ;) |
| 11:19.29 | Begasus | had a simular prob with make and libint ... |
| 11:19.49 | Begasus | sollution was so easy one had to knock onselve ;) |
| 11:19.58 | anquietas | Yea |
| 11:20.10 | anquietas | Did have a look at this: http://jcatki.no-ip.org/SDL_mixer/SDL_mixer_frame.html ? |
| 11:21.13 | Begasus | no not yet ;) |
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| 11:22.51 | Begasus | it builds ok ... but ogg support isn't included then ... |
| 11:24.21 | anquietas | Hm. Does it work on another system? (Not ZETA) |
| 11:26.31 | Begasus | haven't try'd compiling in Elive yet ... |
| 11:26.47 | Begasus | don't know if all the ogg and vorbis headers are present anyway ;) |
| 11:26.54 | Begasus | well not in Elive atm ... |
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| 11:27.16 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 11:29.52 | anquietas | Well, I have no idea right now |
| 11:30.26 | Begasus | np .. thnx for trying ;) |
| 11:30.27 | anquietas | You could set up the whole project again... |
| 11:30.46 | Begasus | will hunt it down eventualy ;) |
| 11:31.12 | anquietas | Someday you will surely succeed. =D It is merely a question of when. |
| 11:31.23 | Begasus | hehe |
| 11:31.41 | Begasus | if we wanted it the easy way we'd choose bill's way ;) |
| 11:31.59 | Begasus | no funn there :D |
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| 11:33.05 | anquietas | Hehe |
| 11:33.39 | anquietas | Yeah, that is what I thought when I first used Elive a couple of days ago... "why should I make my life more complicated" |
| 11:34.04 | anquietas | But somehow... I love this more complex way. =) ... |
| 11:38.45 | anquietas | Hm. If I wanted a (new) laptop... what would you suggest me to buy? A windows/linux tablet pc, or a MacBook or a MacBook Pro? |
| 11:39.06 | Begasus | I just bought me a new one a few weeks back ... |
| 11:39.17 | Begasus | acer 5612 |
| 11:39.18 | anquietas | Which one? |
| 11:39.23 | anquietas | Ah. |
| 11:39.26 | Begasus | not state of the art but it works for me |
| 11:39.52 | anquietas | Does look good actually |
| 11:39.58 | anquietas | How much did it cost? |
| 11:40.25 | Begasus | less then 600 Euro |
| 11:40.36 | anquietas | New? |
| 11:40.40 | Begasus | yep |
| 11:40.48 | anquietas | Fascinating. |
| 11:40.54 | anquietas | And fully equipped? |
| 11:40.54 | Begasus | wireless hda widescreen .. looks and sounds good ;) |
| 11:41.06 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 11:41.07 | Begasus | it fits my needs |
| 11:41.14 | anquietas | CPU? |
| 11:41.15 | Begasus | with dvd dual burner ... |
| 11:41.25 | Begasus | centrino duo 1.66 |
| 11:41.37 | Begasus | quit fast to my liking ;) |
| 11:43.22 | anquietas | Absolutely. Dual core? Nice. |
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| 11:43.45 | charasky | keyra my love! |
| 11:44.02 | anquietas | Greetings charasky. O.o |
| 11:44.21 | charasky | good morning anquietas |
| 11:45.03 | anquietas | Begasus, where did you buy it? |
| 11:45.27 | Begasus | here in Belgium anquietas |
| 11:45.43 | Begasus | VandenBorre ... |
| 11:49.13 | anquietas | Hhmh. Dam`it =P I cannot find it on their website. |
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| 12:04.23 | charasky | NathanExplosion guten morgen |
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| 12:11.14 | anquietas | I am leaving for a while |
| 12:11.16 | anquietas | Ciao |
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| 12:44.21 | Elive_user17 | hey, does anyone know why elive will work fine on my comp in vmware, but x will not start when booted natively? |
| 12:44.33 | Elive_user17 | is it something to do with my gpu? |
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| 12:59.53 | martin21 | hola |
| 12:59.58 | martin21 | hello!! |
| 13:00.01 | GaMBit | hello |
| 13:00.08 | keyra | martin21: que tal ? |
| 13:00.22 | keyra | martin21: hi |
| 13:00.24 | martin21 | bn bn |
| 13:00.32 | martin21 | bien bien |
| 13:00.51 | MaximilianoADL | hi, good morning |
| 13:00.53 | martin21 | tengo unas dudas con elive quien me puede ayudar |
| 13:01.03 | martin21 | ¿? |
| 13:01.09 | GaMBit | ?? |
| 13:01.24 | keyra | GaMBit: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 13:01.53 | GaMBit | I didnt understand Martin's question. |
| 13:02.51 | MaximilianoADL | GaMBit, he ask nothing |
| 13:03.08 | GaMBit | Ok.. I have a question |
| 13:03.17 | GaMBit | first question is I miss my clock in the desktop |
| 13:03.23 | GaMBit | how do i configure to have one? |
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| 13:20.40 | roxville | good morning #elive :) |
| 13:21.17 | mandog | their are 2 clocks in configaration modules |
| 13:21.43 | roxville | cool! |
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| 13:23.17 | roxville | mandog, do you have a question with that statement? |
| 13:23.29 | roxville | hello heello |
| 13:23.43 | keyra | roxville: hi |
| 13:23.52 | heello | Hello roxville |
| 13:24.08 | roxville | goodmorning keyra, you look very pretty today :) |
| 13:24.22 | keyra | roxville: veryyyyyy !!! :) |
| 13:24.24 | heello | roxville, how canyou tell |
| 13:24.29 | heello | :) |
| 13:24.55 | roxville | heello, lol.. she's our channel b.o.t...gotta keep her happy :) |
| 13:25.10 | heello | :) |
| 13:25.21 | heello | how would i know this |
| 13:25.22 | heello | :) |
| 13:25.41 | roxville | now you do :D |
| 13:25.47 | heello | ok ;) |
| 13:26.03 | roxville | running livecd? |
| 13:26.22 | heello | no |
| 13:26.27 | heello | why? |
| 13:26.53 | roxville | lol, just asking... |
| 13:27.16 | roxville | so you're either running in qemu or similar, or have installed |
| 13:27.18 | Begasus | 'lo roxville |
| 13:27.31 | roxville | yo Begasus |
| 13:27.54 | roxville | Begasus, you should try e17-dev now...it's NICE |
| 13:27.58 | heello | exactly |
| 13:28.17 | Begasus | I keep the system like it is atm ;) |
| 13:28.36 | roxville | hehe, ok heello i'm not gonna ask anything else :D if you have a question... just ask, ok? |
| 13:28.44 | Begasus | Elive is running smooth for the time being .. hope it stays like that ;) |
| 13:28.47 | heello | OK |
| 13:28.58 | keyra | Begasus: bee ]:) |
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| 13:29.05 | Begasus | wb anquietas |
| 13:29.14 | anquietas | Greetings |
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| 13:30.12 | anquietas | How`s your SDL problem doing? |
| 13:30.22 | Begasus | still around ... :s |
| 13:30.34 | Begasus | asked around in #sdl and #vorbis ... |
| 13:30.41 | anquietas | Any results? |
| 13:30.43 | Begasus | got some pointers .. but no sollution yet |
| 13:30.50 | anquietas | Mh. |
| 13:30.56 | Begasus | it's working in Elive ... |
| 13:31.03 | Begasus | eg the header is seen there |
| 13:31.19 | Begasus | maybe my Zeta system is messed up ;) |
| 13:31.22 | anquietas | Hm. Could really have something to do with environmental pathes... |
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| 13:32.07 | Begasus | yeah .. someone in #vorbis helped me out there .. but according to pkg-config the libs and headers are in the correct place |
| 13:32.52 | anquietas | Hmh. |
| 13:35.45 | anquietas | God damn! |
| 13:35.53 | Begasus | pssstttttttt ;) |
| 13:36.02 | Begasus | how's it going with the hd prob there? |
| 13:36.31 | anquietas | Yeah, it's just a load of crap... >,< Sorry for cussing |
| 13:37.07 | anquietas | I accidentially deleted the bootloader of windows xp that's still intactly on the other HD |
| 13:37.27 | Begasus | that can be fixed with the CD |
| 13:37.49 | anquietas | So I can't access my data ... neither over Elive (because I don't know how) nor over WinXP, because I don't have the CD. |
| 13:37.50 | Begasus | fixboot mbr or something alike ... |
| 13:37.57 | Begasus | eeps |
| 13:38.07 | anquietas | Hmhm. |
| 13:38.11 | Begasus | download a live iso |
| 13:38.21 | Begasus | that automounts |
| 13:38.57 | anquietas | Mhm. |
| 13:40.41 | Begasus | mann .. I really could use a LARGE external HD to make some descent backups ;) |
| 13:40.51 | anquietas | True. |
| 13:40.52 | Begasus | eg .. HUGE ;) |
| 13:41.34 | wasynyt | 1 TB ? |
| 13:41.41 | wasynyt | good afternoon everyone |
| 13:41.43 | Begasus | that would do wasynyt ;) |
| 13:41.50 | Begasus | afternoon wasynyt ;) |
| 13:41.50 | wasynyt | ,P |
| 13:42.34 | anquietas | I saw a 2TB SATA external HD a while back... |
| 13:42.56 | anquietas | It's a shame that I don't have enough money for such things... :/ |
| 13:43.28 | Begasus | way to many files scattered around atm :s |
| 13:43.36 | Begasus | hehe |
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| 13:45.25 | anquietas | *sigh* |
| 13:47.40 | wasynyt | yeah such things would be nice |
| 13:52.22 | anquietas | Okay... back to my HD problem for a moment... Assume that the HD is plugged in and working (BIOS lists it up). Problem: Elive does not recognize it (correctly). Solution: I have to mount it. Problem: I don't know how. There are some pretty important files on it, as I said, and I don't want to kill them. To be more precise... it is a 50 GiB big rar file containing more or less my entire life. >,< |
| 13:52.36 | keyra | anquietas: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 13:52.55 | anquietas | Keyra, shut up. You're lucky to be just a bot. >.< *sigh* |
| 13:53.59 | Begasus | not so smart to be putting that into a 50GB rar file anquietas ;) |
| 13:54.05 | Begasus | hard to backup ... :s |
| 13:54.21 | anquietas | It is not compressed. Just saved in it. |
| 13:54.30 | anquietas | And I know that it was a silly idea. |
| 13:54.55 | wasynyt | well run your system in live cd mode and mount the hd as read only |
| 13:55.05 | Begasus | well I've had my share of silly ideas ;) |
| 13:55.06 | wasynyt | that way nothing can be done to it |
| 13:55.33 | wasynyt | and i kow there are still many to come |
| 13:55.38 | anquietas | Sorry to be so stupid, but ... what does "live cd mode" mean exactly? |
| 13:56.35 | wasynyt | run elive from cd |
| 13:56.42 | wasynyt | nothing installed to hd's |
| 13:57.00 | anquietas | Ah. Okay - And then? |
| 13:58.53 | Begasus | deppends on what you want to do with the hd anquietas |
| 13:59.05 | Begasus | you could make a backup or something ... |
| 13:59.07 | wasynyt | http://linux.about.com/od/commands/l/blcmdl8_mount.htm |
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| 13:59.23 | anquietas | Well, get my files back. ^^ |
| 13:59.30 | Begasus | either way .. it grants you acces without the mounting prob ;) |
| 14:00.07 | Begasus | maybe even burn them to dvd's (granted that you can split them) |
| 14:01.21 | wirechief | roxville good morning |
| 14:01.57 | anquietas | Is there a way to initialize WindowsXP that is still on the other HD? |
| 14:02.45 | mandog | U need a boot disc or floppy |
| 14:03.00 | anquietas | The Elive CD can't do it? |
| 14:03.24 | wasynyt | ca ifyou know how to make a start up entry for grub |
| 14:03.26 | roxville | hey wirechief how are you? |
| 14:03.39 | wasynyt | good afternoon roxville |
| 14:03.48 | roxville | hiya wasynyt :) |
| 14:03.51 | wirechief | roxville, better now. |
| 14:03.51 | anquietas | Hello Roxville |
| 14:03.53 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:04.03 | roxville | wirechief, glad to hear it, bud |
| 14:04.16 | roxville | hi anquietas how are you? |
| 14:04.28 | wirechief | was kinda wozy for a while but seem better. |
| 14:04.42 | roxville | ouch... |
| 14:04.45 | anquietas | I'm as fine as I can be right now. =P ... thanks for asking, how're you? |
| 14:04.51 | roxville | no fun |
| 14:04.54 | wirechief | then internet decided to go on vacaction grrrr |
| 14:05.08 | roxville | anquietas, i'm fine too, thx :) |
| 14:05.12 | wirechief | they moved power lines ... |
| 14:05.25 | roxville | of course they did |
| 14:05.33 | roxville | murphy's law is ever present |
| 14:05.52 | wirechief | I almost ordered up satelite |
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| 14:06.28 | anquietas | How're power lines related to Murphy's law? =D |
| 14:06.38 | wirechief | roxville, so what is this "freeze" ? what does it do that a livecd won't? |
| 14:07.02 | Begasus | wb roxville |
| 14:07.19 | Begasus | 'lo wirechief |
| 14:07.58 | wirechief | Begasus, howdy |
| 14:08.08 | roxville | wirechief, huh? |
| 14:08.13 | anquietas | I'm going to start the LiveCD ... catch you later! |
| 14:08.19 | anquietas | Thanks for your help! |
| 14:08.21 | Begasus | gl anquietas |
| 14:08.21 | roxville | oh, you mean DeepFreeze? |
| 14:08.27 | wirechief | yes |
| 14:08.31 | anquietas | thx begasus Ciao |
| 14:08.40 | roxville | well in elive it's called elive-skel |
| 14:08.54 | keyra | roxville: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Elive-skel_System |
| 14:09.00 | roxville | it resets some apps and/or e16 and e17 to a default state |
| 14:09.00 | wirechief | k |
| 14:09.30 | roxville | thana thought it'd be a good idea...it's been in elive since...0.3 i think |
| 14:09.31 | wirechief | ah for those of us that love to tinker but dont make backups before we do. |
| 14:09.34 | roxville | he wrote it |
| 14:09.39 | roxville | it's very simple... |
| 14:09.54 | roxville | and that company is selling a similar app for $35 |
| 14:10.22 | wirechief | i saw that in the newsletter, probably exact idea and coding. |
| 14:10.28 | roxville | wirechief, it does NOT backup...it just resets... all personal configs are lost |
| 14:10.57 | roxville | not the files /in home, though |
| 14:11.04 | wirechief | YIKES for $35? no thanks I will use dd first. |
| 14:11.04 | roxville | oops |
| 14:11.16 | Theoden-e17 | Morning roxville |
| 14:11.29 | wirechief | or rdiff |
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| 14:11.58 | roxville | good morning Theoden-e17 , i heard your problem got sorted out |
| 14:12.12 | keyra | roxville: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM |
| 14:12.13 | Theoden-e17 | roxville: Yes - more simple than we thought. |
| 14:12.14 | Theoden-e17 | :-) |
| 14:12.26 | roxville | hehe, good :) |
| 14:12.47 | Theoden-e17 | roxville: The new look onth forums is very nice. |
| 14:13.01 | keyra | Theoden-e17: :) |
| 14:13.02 | wirechief | poor keyra gets bird or mouse all the time |
| 14:14.19 | roxville | cool |
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| 14:18.48 | roxville | brb |
| 14:19.08 | anquietas | Okay... I'm online with the Live CD |
| 14:20.39 | anquietas | mount recognizes my harddisk as /dev/hdb1 on /mnt/windows_C |
| 14:20.53 | keyra | anquietas: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 14:21.03 | anquietas | >_< |
| 14:21.21 | wasynyt | ok can you acces it ? |
| 14:21.25 | anquietas | And there is my archive. |
| 14:21.27 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 14:21.31 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 14:21.36 | anquietas | Grand OS |
| 14:21.41 | Begasus | ;) |
| 14:21.43 | wasynyt | now just copy it the safe place |
| 14:21.46 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 14:21.53 | anquietas | Har. |
| 14:22.10 | Begasus | are you sure it wasn't mounted before? ;) |
| 14:22.12 | Theoden-e17 | Does anyone know whether or not elive includes the software and ability to synce to an iPAQ? |
| 14:22.43 | anquietas | It wasn't. At least I haven't done anything. It was Elive... ;P |
| 14:23.16 | anquietas | iPAQ? I don't know. Have a look at the elive Homepage... |
| 14:23.27 | anquietas | Or search the apt |
| 14:24.14 | anquietas | Hmm |
| 14:24.19 | anquietas | Seems to have something for it |
| 14:24.57 | anquietas | gammu / gpe-edit / sylpheed-claws-gtk2-synce=plugin |
| 14:25.18 | anquietas | Ack, ... replace the equal sign with a dash |
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| 14:27.36 | anquietas | wasynyt, where should I copy the archive to? I can't access my home folder, so I could just copy it to hda1... |
| 14:28.01 | anquietas | wb roxville |
| 14:28.06 | wasynyt | well whatever you consider a safe place |
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| 14:28.21 | anquietas | I am currently now sure what safe means in this context. =D |
| 14:28.30 | anquietas | I guess not much can happen. |
| 14:28.30 | Begasus | lol |
| 14:28.53 | anquietas | Haha |
| 14:28.56 | anquietas | let's see |
| 14:29.40 | anquietas | Okay. Got access to the home folder. Now it should work fine |
| 14:29.45 | wasynyt | safe means place that can be expected to be accesable in near future and which is supported by current os and is accesable at the moment + has enough space |
| 14:30.06 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 14:30.48 | anquietas | Another problem. >.< I can't copy and paste the file. |
| 14:31.02 | keyra | anquietas: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
| 14:31.43 | wasynyt | open terminal |
| 14:31.45 | anquietas | Problem solved. |
| 14:31.49 | wasynyt | nice |
| 14:31.51 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:31.53 | anquietas | Thanks anyway :P |
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| 14:32.25 | wasynyt | your welcome |
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| 14:33.27 | bentejuy | hello everybody! |
| 14:33.36 | wasynyt | good afternoon |
| 14:33.41 | keyra | bentejuy: hi |
| 14:33.46 | anquietas | Greetings |
| 14:33.47 | Begasus | 'lo bentejuy |
| 14:34.00 | bentejuy | :) |
| 14:35.37 | anquietas | Hmm. By the way... could someone suggest me a good program to write and read pdf files? |
| 14:35.50 | wasynyt | acroread |
| 14:35.54 | Begasus | adobe? :P |
| 14:35.58 | wasynyt | "the ofical" |
| 14:36.13 | wasynyt | well at least it will open them all |
| 14:36.25 | anquietas | Mhm. |
| 14:36.27 | Begasus | with a good plugin you can write nice pdf files in open office too (I think) ;) |
| 14:36.50 | Begasus | actualy it should be able to safe them as pdf already I think |
| 14:36.57 | anquietas | Hmmm and a TeX editor? |
| 14:37.00 | wasynyt | open office can save as pdf and so can scribus |
| 14:37.17 | wasynyt | but i think that scribus would be better |
| 14:38.30 | anquietas | The system integrity of Elive is outstanding. |
| 14:40.05 | anquietas | Har. Windows would already be dead by now. |
| 14:40.42 | anquietas | Can someone tell me why Windows enjoys such a great publicity, in comparison to Linux? |
| 14:40.52 | wasynyt | nah i think they have done great job shootinh theyre own leg |
| 14:40.55 | Begasus | monopoly ;) |
| 14:41.01 | wasynyt | everything is sold with it |
| 14:41.05 | wasynyt | computers |
| 14:41.10 | wasynyt | some phones |
| 14:41.12 | wasynyt | pda's |
| 14:41.23 | wasynyt | consoles |
| 14:42.02 | anquietas | Using Linux is not significantly more complicated than using Windows. In contrary. Copying files from an archive using a fully-blown OS that runs from a CD would an impossible task to do for Windows. |
| 14:42.23 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 14:42.54 | wasynyt | but you think about the way micsrosoft has educated us.. to use only mouse |
| 14:43.04 | wasynyt | now people are afraid of terminals |
| 14:43.10 | wasynyt | which is a shame |
| 14:43.13 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 14:43.14 | wasynyt | ;/ |
| 14:43.25 | roxville | do NOT say that word!!!!! |
| 14:43.35 | wasynyt | what ? |
| 14:43.38 | roxville | aaaarrrrrgggghhhh!!!!! |
| 14:43.38 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 14:43.42 | wasynyt | :P |
| 14:43.46 | wasynyt | indeed |
| 14:43.58 | anquietas | Hehe |
| 14:44.00 | roxville | "t.e.r.m.i.n.a.l" |
| 14:44.01 | wasynyt | apt indeed |
| 14:44.01 | apt | Yes, indeed! wasynyt is da man. |
| 14:44.06 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:44.10 | anquietas | Ah, Terminal... |
| 14:44.17 | roxville | DON"T! |
| 14:44.24 | wasynyt | roxville, what then shell ? |
| 14:44.25 | Begasus | I don't have any sound on the flash movies with firefox :s |
| 14:44.26 | anquietas | *poke* |
| 14:44.43 | wasynyt | console ? |
| 14:44.50 | roxville | arrrgh!! |
| 14:44.53 | anquietas | Haha |
| 14:44.56 | wasynyt | konsole |
| 14:45.07 | roxville | :) |
| 14:45.10 | anquietas | wasynyt ... where are you from? |
| 14:45.21 | wasynyt | what is your guess |
| 14:45.23 | wasynyt | ? |
| 14:45.26 | anquietas | Austria. |
| 14:45.31 | roxville | the li'l black fucker |
| 14:45.33 | anquietas | Or Germany... could be more likely |
| 14:45.45 | wasynyt | hmm why those |
| 14:45.57 | roxville | hehe |
| 14:46.10 | roxville | hmmm... |
| 14:46.12 | anquietas | Because you used the german word for "console". |
| 14:46.27 | Begasus | plopsaland? |
| 14:46.30 | Begasus | rofl |
| 14:46.32 | roxville | the land of lakka... |
| 14:46.34 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 14:46.34 | anquietas | Ehehe, Luxemburg or Liechtenstein? |
| 14:46.41 | wasynyt | nope |
| 14:46.48 | wasynyt | up north |
| 14:46.49 | Begasus | neverneverland? :P |
| 14:46.52 | roxville | anquietas, think north |
| 14:47.18 | anquietas | ... how far north... |
| 14:47.26 | anquietas | I am already at the north pole |
| 14:47.35 | roxville | just a tad too far.. |
| 14:47.52 | Begasus | seems to be a market for sdl games ;) |
| 14:48.09 | anquietas | Nope. Can't guess it |
| 14:48.20 | anquietas | Finland. I cheated. |
| 14:48.28 | wasynyt | and i have a very rare mother language... with words like "silta" "joutsen" |
| 14:48.29 | wasynyt | ;P |
| 14:49.00 | anquietas | Mine is rare too... mind a ketten ay ural hegyekbol jovunk. ;) |
| 14:49.07 | anquietas | I'm hungarian. |
| 14:49.16 | anquietas | Cheers |
| 14:49.18 | wasynyt | heh |
| 14:49.20 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:49.22 | Begasus | gesundheit |
| 14:49.24 | Begasus | hehe |
| 14:50.42 | roxville | lol |
| 14:51.05 | anquietas | Hehe. Rare meeting. Two guys whose ancestors were from finn-ugric tribes =D |
| 14:51.20 | wasynyt | heh |
| 14:51.21 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:51.42 | anquietas | Your english is damn good. I thought it would be your mother tongue. |
| 14:51.47 | roxville | lol |
| 14:51.55 | wasynyt | nah i just use it a lot |
| 14:51.58 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:52.41 | anquietas | ^^ |
| 14:53.04 | anquietas | Roxville, what's up with your terminal now? |
| 14:53.53 | roxville | nuttin', i was just playing along... to emphasize the comment wasynyt made |
| 14:54.01 | wasynyt | :D |
| 14:54.09 | anquietas | Ah, yes, and another (paraphrasing) word for it could be "CLI"/"Command line interface". |
| 14:54.27 | wasynyt | true |
| 14:55.18 | anquietas | It is the seeming complexity. |
| 14:56.03 | anquietas | People are in general afraid of everything that is at least somewhat "geeky". |
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| 14:57.42 | anquietas | Interestingly the number of books sold is inversely proportional to the number of equations in them... |
| 14:57.56 | wasynyt | really ? |
| 14:58.18 | anquietas | Yes... was a large survey done in the US |
| 14:58.30 | anquietas | Read it somewhere on a physics forum. |
| 14:58.56 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 14:59.13 | anquietas | I suppose both phenomena have the same origin. The tendency of people to stupidity and inappropriate simplicity. >.< |
| 14:59.27 | keyra | anquietas: no... stupid human |
| 14:59.38 | anquietas | Har |
| 14:59.44 | roxville | i read somewhere that the intake of gulasch is proportional to the number of hungarians in an area |
| 14:59.51 | anquietas | Indeed! |
| 14:59.57 | roxville | :D |
| 14:59.59 | anquietas | I love that stuff. =P |
| 15:00.09 | roxville | so do i |
| 15:00.27 | Theoden-e17 | pinup? did I hear roxville mention pinups? At your service sir! |
| 15:00.45 | roxville | lol Theoden-e17 i saw yer desktops dude... i saw 'em |
| 15:00.52 | Theoden-e17 | lol |
| 15:00.55 | anquietas | Roxville, pa ruski? |
| 15:01.04 | roxville | that girl with the checkered top... man i LOVE checkered tops! |
| 15:01.11 | Theoden-e17 | haha |
| 15:01.12 | roxville | anquietas, niet |
| 15:01.29 | roxville | pa svedski |
| 15:02.56 | anquietas | Heh, well ... if I only had the time to learn another language... |
| 15:03.10 | roxville | so ingmar bergman died today... |
| 15:04.24 | anquietas | Never seen anything from him |
| 15:05.01 | roxville | no big loss, if ya ask me... |
| 15:05.12 | anquietas | Hm. |
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| 15:08.59 | roxville | hey rebbi |
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| 15:09.33 | anquietas | Heh, now was the first time that someone criticized my sudden change to linux... "Why this change now? Why do you have to use linux? Everyone has Windows!" |
| 15:10.00 | wasynyt | heh |
| 15:10.01 | roxville | lol |
| 15:10.12 | wasynyt | well some people are affraid of change |
| 15:10.20 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 15:10.22 | wasynyt | what did you answer |
| 15:11.25 | wirechief | anquietas, so have you decided on linux vs windows ? |
| 15:11.50 | anquietas | Yes, I killed Windows XP and enjoyed it. |
| 15:12.11 | anquietas | I primarily changed because linux has abilities and offers possibilities windows never could. |
| 15:12.27 | wirechief | lol, well that might come back to haunt you but its a good way to force yourself to learn linux |
| 15:13.13 | wirechief | i removed my windows and put in a completely new HD and never looked back |
| 15:13.27 | keyra | wirechief: Elive doesn't like Windows, don't use it, it's garbage and will only give problems |
| 15:13.31 | anquietas | Pretty much all applications are open source. Almost all people here are somehow into programming, and I am going to need linux anyway when I graduate. (Don't know when this will be... but someday in the distant future) |
| 15:14.46 | wirechief | my wife still uses windows, she plays at www.pogo.com everyso often I have run fixes on it. |
| 15:15.02 | roxville | lol, my wife too |
| 15:15.30 | wirechief | then recently i got another error exception would you please send a error report |
| 15:15.39 | wirechief | i remembered how much i hated it. |
| 15:15.41 | anquietas | Furthermore - Elive is a precious piece of art. Can't be compared to Windows... there are not only worlds but galaxies between them |
| 15:16.03 | wirechief | i know, i have one on my desktop now. |
| 15:16.23 | anquietas | Hehe |
| 15:16.29 | wirechief | roxville, i wish the stars would twinkle with that screen |
| 15:16.43 | wirechief | like the default elive screen |
| 15:16.48 | anquietas | Hhmh. That should be possible with Edje. |
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| 15:17.27 | roxville | wirechief, what screen? in windows? |
| 15:17.37 | roxville | hi there Elive_user |
| 15:17.39 | wirechief | this is a compatible, i got it from a enlightenment , the one i sent you |
| 15:17.52 | wirechief | remember the screen i sent ? |
| 15:18.02 | wirechief | i still use it. |
| 15:18.04 | roxville | oh, yes |
| 15:18.06 | roxville | ok |
| 15:18.53 | wirechief | but it needs some animation lol |
| 15:18.59 | roxville | :) |
| 15:19.46 | roxville | wife basically, you can open the default elive BG and add your background to it, and rebuild ita,d... shazam! you got twinkling stars |
| 15:19.53 | roxville | wife? |
| 15:20.01 | roxville | soory wirechief :) |
| 15:20.03 | rebbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:20.26 | wirechief | cool |
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| 15:21.31 | roxville | wirechief, in usr/share/enlightenment/data are the default elive themes and backgrounds... copy to your /home or .e/e/backgrounds |
| 15:21.32 | wirechief | so you put back the original and then use a command called rebuild ita |
| 15:21.48 | roxville | open with edje_decc file.edj |
| 15:22.11 | roxville | just rename your image with the name of the image in the dir |
| 15:22.27 | roxville | then run build.sh |
| 15:22.38 | roxville | and move it to your BG dir |
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| 15:23.05 | wirechief | hmm will have to try that. |
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| 15:25.22 | wirechief | i see adriftstar.edj in backgrounds, that must be my current background |
| 15:26.09 | roxville | yes |
| 15:26.42 | roxville | all the ones that you add, will go to .e/e/backgrounds |
| 15:27.04 | anquietas | Is it possible to choose a user defined location for backgrounds? |
| 15:27.05 | wirechief | ok, gotta do a wifey chore brb |
| 15:27.25 | roxville | awright |
| 15:27.42 | roxville | anquietas, hmmm i guess you couldmake a symlink |
| 15:27.55 | roxville | but i have never tried |
| 15:27.58 | anquietas | What is a symlink? |
| 15:28.12 | roxville | it's a symbolic link to a dir |
| 15:28.38 | roxville | ln -s /to/dir /from/dir |
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| 15:35.18 | glooobule | Hi !! |
| 15:35.18 | glooobule | all |
| 15:37.34 | roxville | hi glooobule :) |
| 15:37.55 | glooobule | Hi roxville |
| 15:38.04 | roxville | you doing ok? |
| 15:38.05 | glooobule | all is good ? ;) |
| 15:38.11 | roxville | hehe, yes |
| 15:38.12 | glooobule | eh he |
| 15:38.16 | glooobule | yes too :) |
| 15:38.22 | roxville | good :) |
| 15:38.41 | glooobule | now, i wait for next version of Elive :D |
| 15:38.55 | roxville | :) |
| 15:39.15 | roxville | i don't know exactly when, but...it's not far away now |
| 15:39.29 | roxville | new kernel and new e17 |
| 15:39.34 | glooobule | cool |
| 15:39.54 | glooobule | at the moment , Elive 1.0 is good |
| 15:40.20 | kevin_ | hi ppl |
| 15:40.27 | glooobule | hi ! |
| 15:40.36 | roxville | hi kevin_ |
| 15:40.40 | kevin_ | all good? |
| 15:40.54 | roxville | yep :) and you? |
| 15:41.11 | glooobule | ouaip |
| 15:41.15 | kevin_ | i'm just leving my work: yep :p |
| 15:41.27 | roxville | :D |
| 15:41.27 | kevin_ | leving or living? |
| 15:41.31 | wirechief | roxville, i opened elive.edj with that |
| 15:41.46 | roxville | ok wirechief |
| 15:42.14 | wirechief | edje thing and it created a bunch of files |
| 15:42.22 | roxville | i may have forgotten to mention that you need to set the permissions to read/write for everyone |
| 15:42.36 | roxville | wirechief, yes |
| 15:42.37 | wirechief | then something that is called Lucax.edj |
| 15:42.56 | roxville | in that dir, are all the files/images you see in the background |
| 15:42.57 | wirechief | also default.edj |
| 15:43.13 | roxville | Lucax is the dark elive theme |
| 15:43.14 | wirechief | it put them in thems |
| 15:43.21 | wirechief | oh ok |
| 15:43.48 | wirechief | so it basically made a copy of the files |
| 15:44.16 | roxville | yeah |
| 15:45.21 | wirechief | i did edje_decc elive.edj and it started making bread |
| 15:45.34 | roxville | good :) |
| 15:45.37 | wirechief | i mean the screen went wild, all them files |
| 15:45.40 | wirechief | lol |
| 15:45.46 | roxville | mmmm i smell cinnamon... |
| 15:45.50 | wirechief | hehehe |
| 15:46.10 | roxville | yes it decompressed the edj |
| 15:47.01 | roxville | in the new folder is a build.sh script that you run to make it compile again |
| 15:47.02 | wirechief | ok what image do i rename i am confussed |
| 15:47.19 | roxville | the number/names of the files in there must be identical |
| 15:47.26 | roxville | unless you hack the edc |
| 15:48.22 | wirechief | so i am confused as to what i would rebuild, do i select two files here ? |
| 15:48.37 | roxville | wirechief, copy YOUR image into that dir, and rename it to the main background image's name |
| 15:48.46 | roxville | delete the existing one |
| 15:48.55 | wirechief | oh ok |
| 15:49.14 | roxville | open a terminal in that dir and just sh build.sh |
| 15:49.31 | roxville | or rightclick on it and choose "execute" |
| 15:49.35 | wirechief | ok |
| 15:50.22 | roxville | after a few seconds, you will see the new edj in there |
| 15:50.33 | roxville | IF everything went smoothly |
| 15:50.47 | keyra | roxville: bee ]:) |
| 15:51.03 | roxville | it may be better to run the build.sh in a terminal, so you can see if something goes south |
| 15:51.26 | wirechief | sh: build.sh: No such file or directory |
| 15:51.30 | kevin_ | Thanatermesis, ping |
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| 15:52.02 | roxville | wirechief, huh? |
| 15:52.21 | AlexAnteMachina | Hi there! |
| 15:52.24 | wirechief | /home/wirechief1/.e/e/backgrounds/themes]# sh build.sh |
| 15:52.24 | wirechief | sh: build.sh: No such file or directory |
| 15:52.58 | wirechief | hi AlexAnteMachina |
| 15:53.10 | wirechief | its playing with me roxville |
| 15:53.29 | kevin_ | any1 can kick kevin__? that my proxy how don't want to timeout :x |
| 15:53.36 | kevin_ | who* |
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| 15:54.16 | roxville | wirechief, ...not necessarily... |
| 15:54.32 | wirechief | it went thubbbbb to me |
| 15:54.34 | roxville | wirechief, what file did you open? |
| 15:54.47 | wirechief | elive.edj |
| 15:54.55 | roxville | elive-wall-starts.edj? |
| 15:55.04 | wirechief | elive.edj |
| 15:55.10 | roxville | lol, you must have opened a theme, not a BACKGROUND |
| 15:55.25 | roxville | sorry for caps |
| 15:55.26 | wirechief | OMG |
| 15:55.39 | roxville | lol |
| 15:55.49 | wirechief | back to glue factory for me |
| 15:55.59 | roxville | anyway... thana must have tinkered so ppl wouldn't mess around too much with it :) |
| 15:56.04 | anquietas | sorry... had to leave for a few mins |
| 15:56.08 | anquietas | back again |
| 15:56.21 | roxville | but if you just know how, it's easy enough to add the build.sh script |
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| 15:56.37 | wirechief | yes i kinda have a idea what happend. |
| 15:56.44 | wirechief | glue in junk out |
| 15:57.08 | roxville | wirechief, Blue_sky_tree.edj is the one you should copy |
| 15:57.16 | wirechief | k |
| 15:57.44 | roxville | from /usr/share/enlightenment/data/backgrounds |
| 15:58.34 | roxville | and replace base.png with your image |
| 15:59.01 | wirechief | no /backgrounds |
| 15:59.41 | wirechief | no /usr/share/enlightenment/data/backgrounds |
| 16:00.07 | wirechief | hmm maybe thats cause thunar is not root ? |
| 16:00.37 | roxville | i have no idea...i see if from thunar as root or not |
| 16:00.53 | wirechief | interesting. |
| 16:00.59 | roxville | very |
| 16:01.00 | wirechief | will try locate to see where it is. |
| 16:01.31 | roxville | wirechief, hold on |
| 16:01.34 | wirechief | "lost in Space" |
| 16:02.24 | wirechief | k |
| 16:02.42 | roxville | move it from /home/wirechief/Downloads/xchat to .e/e/backgrounds |
| 16:03.00 | roxville | then run edje_decc there |
| 16:03.06 | wirechief | k |
| 16:06.10 | roxville | i gotta rock for a bit, bbl |
| 16:06.14 | roxville | good luck :) |
| 16:06.16 | anquietas | Is Edje a programming language or a c library? |
| 16:06.17 | wirechief | ok that made Blue_Sky_Tree |
| 16:06.41 | roxville | anquietas, good question |
| 16:06.48 | roxville | next question? |
| 16:06.53 | kevin_ | lol |
| 16:06.54 | anquietas | Hehe |
| 16:06.58 | wirechief | i think its a compiler of somekinda |
| 16:07.17 | roxville | it's a language that is similar to C |
| 16:07.25 | wirechief | what was the next step roxville ? |
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| 16:07.36 | wirechief | oh, i remember |
| 16:07.43 | wirechief | build.sh |
| 16:08.11 | Kokosol1 | thanatermesis saludos |
| 16:08.29 | Kokosol1 | keyra saludos |
| 16:14.38 | roxville | hmm wirechief ... treesky.png should still be visible in the background... you'd need to open it in gimp, delete it and save an empty file |
| 16:15.06 | roxville | or blank, i should say |
| 16:15.16 | wirechief | i see that. |
| 16:15.44 | wirechief | i finally got my image into that Blue_sky_Tree and replaced the default base.png with it. |
| 16:16.02 | roxville | :) |
| 16:16.10 | wirechief | now i guess i run that build on it |
| 16:16.36 | roxville | wirechief, did you rename your image to base.png? |
| 16:16.45 | wirechief | yes |
| 16:16.45 | roxville | and...it'd need to be a png |
| 16:16.49 | roxville | ok |
| 16:18.08 | wirechief | now just run build.sh on the base.png ? |
| 16:19.19 | wirechief | brb |
| 16:19.43 | roxville | just run build.sh, yes |
| 16:19.57 | roxville | the edj will appear IN the dir you're in |
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| 16:23.57 | roxville | lol |
| 16:24.31 | roxville | edje_decc roxville.edj |
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| 16:26.28 | Elive_user21 | hi |
| 16:26.38 | roxville | hi Elive_user21 |
| 16:27.05 | Elive_user21 | does elive support internal WLAN on notebooks _ |
| 16:27.20 | Elive_user21 | i am currentlz connected with cable |
| 16:27.30 | Elive_user21 | with vmware |
| 16:27.44 | roxville | in most cases, yes |
| 16:28.04 | roxville | unfortunately, i'm not the guy to handle wifi questions |
| 16:28.13 | wirechief | what are you trying to do with your wifi |
| 16:28.34 | anquietas | I could... theoretically help you |
| 16:28.42 | anquietas | What's your problem? |
| 16:28.46 | Elive_user21 | so, if I install the full version of elive, not the vmware version, it should detect the wifi adapter during install _ |
| 16:28.52 | anquietas | No. |
| 16:29.03 | anquietas | Most likely not. |
| 16:29.08 | wirechief | hmm mine did |
| 16:29.17 | anquietas | Mine didn't. ;P |
| 16:29.27 | roxville | <roxville> in most cases, yes |
| 16:29.33 | wirechief | depends on which wifi your using |
| 16:29.37 | Elive_user21 | but it is possible to configure with a package then ? |
| 16:29.47 | anquietas | Well, it could be that it does, but if not, then your're going to need ndiswrapper. |
| 16:30.00 | Elive_user21 | ok thanks |
| 16:30.02 | keyra | anquietas: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper |
| 16:30.03 | wirechief | you are beating around the bush what wifi adapter are you using? |
| 16:30.17 | Elive_user21 | one second |
| 16:30.46 | wirechief | try lspci -vv in terminal and look for it |
| 16:31.06 | anquietas | What does 'bbl' stand for? |
| 16:31.15 | wirechief | be back later |
| 16:31.16 | Elive_user21 | atheros AR5005G |
| 16:31.22 | anquietas | Hmh. |
| 16:31.25 | wirechief | arrg |
| 16:31.35 | wirechief | i doubt it will. |
| 16:31.42 | anquietas | Ndiswrapper. |
| 16:31.45 | wirechief | yes |
| 16:31.56 | wirechief | thats worth a try with ndiswrapper |
| 16:32.03 | anquietas | Yup. Could be tricky, though |
| 16:32.05 | wirechief | do you have your windows drivers |
| 16:32.31 | anquietas | There is a manual for it in the elive wiki |
| 16:32.43 | Elive_user21 | yes, they are availiable at the acer homepage |
| 16:32.54 | anquietas | Good start. |
| 16:33.01 | wirechief | yes |
| 16:33.07 | Elive_user21 | ok I will do my best |
| 16:33.13 | anquietas | Wait a moment. |
| 16:33.14 | Elive_user21 | thank you ! |
| 16:33.29 | wirechief | i had to do that when i tried Freespire, it was a long drawn out thing. |
| 16:33.30 | roxville | good luck jim...this message will self destruct in 5 seconds |
| 16:33.39 | wirechief | .5 ms |
| 16:33.55 | anquietas | Once you got your drivers, you must extract the .sys and .inf files. |
| 16:34.15 | anquietas | They are essentially important. |
| 16:34.29 | Elive_user21 | ok |
| 16:34.35 | anquietas | Then follow the steps from the elive wiki |
| 16:34.45 | Elive_user21 | ok |
| 16:34.48 | anquietas | Godspeed. |
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| 16:35.16 | Elive_user21 | bye |
| 16:35.19 | anquietas | ciao |
| 16:35.56 | roxville | hehe |
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| 16:40.35 | wirechief | anquietas check this wiki http://wiki.freespire.org/index.php/Setting_up_Ndiswrapper |
| 16:40.52 | wirechief | i used everything except the ndiswrapper -m |
| 16:41.06 | keyra | wirechief: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Ndiswrapper |
| 16:41.15 | wirechief | for my machine it messed things up. i |
| 16:41.34 | wirechief | yeah, i checked that too. not much in steps to do it |
| 16:42.26 | wirechief | the ndiswrapper worked for me but not ndiswrapper -m it screwed things up |
| 16:43.07 | wirechief | i was happy with elive's ability though to detect my card and do internet right away |
| 16:43.25 | anquietas | Hmm |
| 16:43.39 | wirechief | i wrote a thread on my experiene on the freespire forum |
| 16:43.44 | wirechief | it should be still there. |
| 16:44.07 | wirechief | i have forgotten most of the things i had to do and the results there of. |
| 16:44.22 | wirechief | nice to leave tracks behind for reference. lol |
| 16:44.45 | anquietas | I did it the same way, and my usb stick worked, even found a connection to my local access point... but I was not able to make iceweasel to connect to a page |
| 16:45.36 | wirechief | you didnt have a internet connection ? |
| 16:47.29 | anquietas | Nope |
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| 16:47.44 | wirechief | i have never gotten a usb to boot with any of the distros |
| 16:48.16 | wirechief | something with the way my Desktop does the bios detection of USB |
| 16:48.20 | anquietas | Internet connection was active (in my router) ... the usb stick was active, too, and stable. But yet... no internet in iceweasel and no ping to any page |
| 16:49.17 | wirechief | no ping to gateway either huh? |
| 16:49.26 | anquietas | Nope |
| 16:49.41 | wirechief | hmm what distro were you using ? |
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| 16:49.47 | anquietas | Elive ^^ |
| 16:49.57 | wirechief | oh, ok debian. |
| 16:50.33 | wirechief | i have a funny story for you, will look up the URL |
| 16:50.44 | anquietas | okay ^^ |
| 16:52.10 | wirechief | http://www.techsupportalert.com/flash-drive-linux.htm |
| 16:52.26 | wirechief | basically i had the very same experiences |
| 16:52.49 | anquietas | did you find a solution?> |
| 16:52.56 | wirechief | yep |
| 16:53.09 | wirechief | I don't do USB booting lol |
| 16:53.52 | wirechief | USB booting is like trying to get a ATI 1300 to run using linux drivers. |
| 16:54.03 | wirechief | ATI sucks |
| 16:54.33 | wirechief | I really believe that MS and the bios makers decided to keep linux from ever being successful at USB booting |
| 16:54.33 | anquietas | nVidia is ways better anyway |
| 16:54.54 | wirechief | yes i agree |
| 16:54.57 | anquietas | Possibly. |
| 16:55.22 | anquietas | Hmm. Have you heard about the new Cell microprocessor? |
| 16:55.31 | wirechief | if you look at the way its been going, USB booting should be more use now than ide booting. |
| 16:55.46 | wirechief | it rings a bell |
| 16:56.01 | wirechief | like a nano thing |
| 16:56.22 | wirechief | nano widgets in silicon |
| 16:56.48 | anquietas | Mhh. Yeah, well... it's a new type of CPU used in the playstation 3 |
| 16:57.09 | anquietas | But it has capabilities far exceeding its current usage. |
| 16:57.41 | wirechief | and then the 80 cores on chip. ah ok, now that brings it back to memory, yes they are well advanced and could be great if it flys. |
| 16:57.49 | anquietas | I thought it might be tempting to build a linux version for that piece of technology. |
| 16:58.14 | wirechief | the company i worked for put fibre optics from Sanfranciso to Houston and left it dormant |
| 16:58.24 | anquietas | Why? |
| 16:58.41 | wirechief | waiting for bandwidth to become needed and users to pay big bucks for it. |
| 16:58.52 | anquietas | Will it remain dormant? |
| 16:58.58 | wirechief | they had too much bandwidth for the day. |
| 16:59.20 | wirechief | no, i think they will or have sold rights to it, perhaps even to MCI or ATT |
| 16:59.31 | anquietas | Mhm. |
| 16:59.39 | anquietas | What's your occupation? |
| 16:59.54 | wirechief | but that is why you dont see fibre very much. I am a retired tele-comm Engineer |
| 17:00.29 | wirechief | and yours ? |
| 17:00.43 | anquietas | If being a high-school student counts... |
| 17:00.54 | wirechief | yes. |
| 17:01.01 | wirechief | you are the future. |
| 17:01.44 | wirechief | yours will be in the making of things better for the rest of the people who don't know how. |
| 17:02.33 | wirechief | someone like Thanatermesis who knew there had to be something better than kde and gnome. |
| 17:03.12 | wirechief | and has done something that few have. |
| 17:03.12 | anquietas | Possibly. My generation is, at least. I strongly doubt that I am given the capabilities and the especialness to make significant changes to humanity's future. |
| 17:03.41 | wirechief | you never know, many times your accomplishments are used in in future generations not your own. |
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| 17:04.38 | anquietas | Thanatermesis has proven his unique abilities; he was the first to accomplish such a goal. |
| 17:05.13 | wirechief | yes, and the humanity to attack others to help in his work. |
| 17:05.18 | anquietas | I surmise not everyone is equipped with skills that could be likened to his. |
| 17:05.22 | wirechief | oops attrack |
| 17:05.32 | anquietas | Attack. XD |
| 17:05.37 | anquietas | Nice typo. |
| 17:05.40 | roxville | attract? |
| 17:05.45 | wirechief | keyboard skips |
| 17:05.45 | wizard123 | bang! |
| 17:05.53 | roxville | hehe |
| 17:06.12 | roxville | LOL |
| 17:06.17 | wirechief | wizard123, hey hello |
| 17:06.19 | anquietas | Greetings Wizard. |
| 17:06.31 | keyra | wirechief: hi |
| 17:06.55 | wirechief | wizard does bang work in elive ? |
| 17:07.09 | wizard123 | hi all |
| 17:07.35 | wizard123 | bang ? hmm.. i have to check |
| 17:07.37 | wizard123 | ! |
| 17:07.40 | anquietas | wizard123, I found out which theme it was I showed you yesterday. ^^ It's called "Winter Theme for E17". |
| 17:07.40 | wizard123 | it works |
| 17:07.48 | roxville | the wizard of .pl |
| 17:07.53 | wizard123 | ^^ |
| 17:08.09 | wirechief | nope |
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| 17:08.20 | wizard123 | anquietas: good :) |
| 17:08.22 | wirechief | it does ? |
| 17:08.32 | wizard123 | hi Bryanstein_ |
| 17:08.33 | wirechief | i tried !n 50 |
| 17:08.35 | anquietas | Heya Bryanstein_ |
| 17:08.45 | Bryanstein_ | hey wizard123 |
| 17:08.49 | wizard123 | ah, bang as that funny math operation ? |
| 17:08.53 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, how are you |
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| 17:09.00 | Bryanstein_ | hello everyone |
| 17:09.07 | wirechief | well its a bash command |
| 17:09.14 | anquietas | I am fine, thanks. And you? |
| 17:09.17 | wirechief | hello Bryanstein |
| 17:09.43 | wirechief | guess its only with red hat stuff |
| 17:09.44 | anquietas | wirechief, it looks like a factorial. |
| 17:10.03 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, I'm doing fine are you new to Elive? |
| 17:10.06 | wirechief | i saw it in a red hat tutorial. |
| 17:10.40 | wirechief | try using the command history in a terminal see what ya get |
| 17:10.46 | wizard123 | wirechief: well, from bash(1): ! expr - true if expr is false |
| 17:10.55 | anquietas | Bryanstein_, I am. We already talked yesterday - I had another nickname, as far as I can remember. |
| 17:11.17 | wizard123 | elive_user prolly ;) |
| 17:11.29 | anquietas | Yup. |
| 17:11.30 | Bryanstein_ | lol ok... |
| 17:11.38 | Bryanstein_ | user 96 or something |
| 17:11.46 | anquietas | Could well be true. |
| 17:12.02 | Bryanstein_ | you the CAD guy ? |
| 17:12.06 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 17:12.27 | Bryanstein_ | ah ha...you ever tried Solid Edge? |
| 17:12.49 | anquietas | Solid Edge? Not yet. |
| 17:13.27 | wizard123 | i did |
| 17:13.30 | wizard123 | what a crap :/ |
| 17:13.32 | anquietas | What's it? |
| 17:13.37 | anquietas | Ahah |
| 17:13.54 | Bryanstein_ | wizard123, you have lol |
| 17:13.55 | assasukasse | i just tried elive on a samsung x10 with only 256mb ram and it works wonderfully |
| 17:14.10 | wirechief | assasukasse, great |
| 17:14.12 | anquietas | Okay... me::associate< "Solid edge", "crap">; |
| 17:14.26 | Bryanstein_ | well it's just like all the other CAD software out there |
| 17:14.38 | roxville | http://uploaded.elivecd.org/roxville/elive-alaska.jpg |
| 17:14.45 | anquietas | Hmmm Catia is most likely different. |
| 17:15.21 | anquietas | That picture was taken in Alaska!? |
| 17:15.30 | Bryanstein_ | yes well it's similar...Catia is very nice |
| 17:15.35 | wizard123 | i need help :P |
| 17:15.43 | wirechief | roxville, nice .jpg |
| 17:15.44 | keyra | Bryanstein_: :) |
| 17:15.58 | roxville | thank you |
| 17:16.00 | anquietas | Roxville, that's beautiful. Where was it taken exactly? |
| 17:16.16 | wizard123 | which verb i should use to describe making a sound with my lips ? |
| 17:16.21 | wizard123 | to whistle ? |
| 17:16.23 | roxville | exactly...somewhere in alaska |
| 17:16.31 | anquietas | ;P |
| 17:16.47 | anquietas | He, depends on the type of sound. |
| 17:16.47 | roxville | i found it on the net... |
| 17:17.05 | roxville | :-o |
| 17:17.15 | roxville | };-o |
| 17:17.23 | wirechief | roxville, wanna see my kitten ? |
| 17:17.33 | anquietas | Bryanstein_, has Solid edge the same capabilities as Catia? |
| 17:17.39 | roxville | wirechief, sure! |
| 17:17.44 | wizard123 | :/ |
| 17:18.20 | Bryanstein_ | yes more like solida works |
| 17:18.25 | wirechief | http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Loni+the+cat |
| 17:18.33 | wirechief | there are two clips of her |
| 17:18.35 | Bryanstein_ | some like it over solid works, but |
| 17:18.49 | Bryanstein_ | the interface is hard to use |
| 17:18.53 | Bryanstein_ | just a little |
| 17:19.03 | wirechief | she is loni |
| 17:19.07 | Bryanstein_ | but once you get it...it's great...solid works is sooooo eay |
| 17:19.09 | Bryanstein_ | easy |
| 17:19.15 | Bryanstein_ | almost magical |
| 17:19.27 | anquietas | Cute ^^ wirechief... how old is she? |
| 17:19.41 | wirechief | in that clip only about 6 or 7 weeks |
| 17:20.26 | Theoden-e17 | Hi Bryanstein |
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| 17:20.36 | wirechief | she makes a great poster kitten, i have several that I took. |
| 17:20.38 | stefzekiller | hi |
| 17:20.46 | anquietas | Hmh, Bryanstein_, but is it possible to use the things designed with Solid Works as prefabs for a CNC machine? |
| 17:20.47 | wirechief | stefzekiller, hello |
| 17:21.00 | anquietas | Hello stefzekiller. |
| 17:21.01 | keyra | wirechief: hi |
| 17:21.28 | Bryanstein_ | yes...of course |
| 17:21.35 | wirechief | lunch time bbl |
| 17:22.14 | anquietas | Hm. Cool. |
| 17:22.26 | anquietas | And it's free/open-source? |
| 17:22.43 | roxville | woooow, VERY cute! |
| 17:22.54 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, oh nooooo |
| 17:23.05 | Bryanstein_ | it's like 3,000 dollars |
| 17:23.15 | anquietas | Yeah, I thought that. =D |
| 17:23.21 | anquietas | Quite like Catia. |
| 17:23.50 | stefzekiller | Is there a howto to build a live-cd debian based ( using debootstrap and not remastering knoppix or elive ) ? |
| 17:24.19 | roxville | i'm sure there is |
| 17:24.24 | roxville | google :) |
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| 17:25.19 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, you know they are made by the same company righ t |
| 17:25.25 | Bryanstein_ | Solid Works and Catia |
| 17:26.04 | anquietas | I do. |
| 17:26.05 | anquietas | Now. |
| 17:26.23 | anquietas | Sorry, I am still a newbe to all this. |
| 17:26.35 | Bryanstein_ | oh no this is just CAD stuff not Linux |
| 17:26.57 | Bryanstein_ | you seem to know a bit about CAD |
| 17:26.58 | anquietas | I know. But yet I am new to it. |
| 17:27.05 | anquietas | Well... |
| 17:27.19 | anquietas | I have some knowledge about it. |
| 17:27.28 | anquietas | But nothing in-deep. |
| 17:29.04 | Bryanstein_ | well you need to see a solid works demo |
| 17:29.10 | Bryanstein_ | pretty awesome |
| 17:29.36 | anquietas | Mhm. What's your occupation, Bryanstein_, if I may ask? |
| 17:29.51 | roxville | Bryanstein is a demo-holic |
| 17:29.59 | Bryanstein_ | when you've played around with autocad r13 r14....then you use Solid Works...it's so liberating |
| 17:30.38 | Bryanstein_ | lol roxville is right...I'm a loser...they pay me to sit in irc channels and say hello |
| 17:30.52 | keyra | Bryanstein_: hi |
| 17:31.13 | roxville | anquietas, he's a pro... don't let him let you think anything else |
| 17:31.14 | Theoden-e17 | It's true! |
| 17:31.37 | Bryanstein_ | lol no...I work with computers...Systems Administrator, but I was going to school for Engineering |
| 17:32.01 | anquietas | Hehe |
| 17:32.04 | Bryanstein_ | just couldn't figure out what wa round and what was square |
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| 17:32.28 | Theoden-e17 | Bryanstein: roxville is square |
| 17:32.29 | anquietas | ^^ Don't be too modest. |
| 17:33.08 | roxville | :D |
| 17:33.12 | anquietas | Ahaha. |
| 17:33.18 | Bryanstein_ | lol |
| 17:33.23 | anquietas | Well, we all are pretty organic. :P |
| 17:33.34 | anquietas | ( A question, by the way, ... is it possible that my mp3's sound better with xmms than with winamp/wmplayer? ) |
| 17:33.35 | roxville | hehe |
| 17:33.35 | Bryanstein_ | nice word...I like organic |
| 17:33.49 | roxville | anquietas, absolutely |
| 17:33.57 | Bryanstein_ | yes...it's all in the codec |
| 17:34.13 | roxville | linux' sound algorithms are much better than winders |
| 17:34.47 | Bryanstein_ | lol all of linux's algorithm are better |
| 17:34.51 | roxville | or windows'es, as they say here in the south... |
| 17:34.51 | anquietas | Bryanstein_, I love organic. Everything I design/would design/would love to design would have a touch of nature. |
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| 17:35.46 | wizard123 | windows ? |
| 17:35.49 | wizard123 | hmm |
| 17:35.50 | anquietas | It is fascinating that people don't use linux. It's not even hard to use. It feels like as if I had used linux since ever... but never had before. |
| 17:35.56 | wizard123 | i forgot to open one them :D |
| 17:36.02 | wizard123 | now i know why is so hot : |
| 17:36.12 | roxville | lol |
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| 17:37.44 | anquietas | Hm. |
| 17:37.53 | wizard123 | oh, X.org compiled |
| 17:37.57 | wizard123 | let's test :) |
| 17:38.06 | anquietas | ^^ |
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| 17:39.53 | wizard123 | Mutacion!! |
| 17:40.08 | anquietas | Hrhr. Greetings Mutacion. |
| 17:40.17 | Mutacion | waaaaaaaazaaaaaa! |
| 17:40.20 | Mutacion | qiubole ppl |
| 17:40.27 | wizard123 | bleaaahhh! |
| 17:40.35 | roxville | ese paquito! |
| 17:40.40 | Mutacion | this macirssi is a really nice eyecandy..but it miss a lot of functions |
| 17:40.52 | anquietas | Macirssi? |
| 17:40.54 | Mutacion | paquito hahahha xD.. |
| 17:41.01 | wizard123 | apt es en paquito |
| 17:41.03 | Mutacion | paquit = paco = frank |
| 17:41.10 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 17:41.27 | Mutacion | macirssi, yeah anquietas ..i..errrm..use..errrm.. osx ..errm xD |
| 17:41.42 | wizard123 | :P~ |
| 17:41.43 | anquietas | Eheh. |
| 17:41.57 | anquietas | Burn him at the stake. xD |
| 17:42.06 | anquietas | Well no, it's still a unix after all |
| 17:42.10 | Mutacion | hahahahha |
| 17:42.12 | Mutacion | is darwin |
| 17:42.14 | wizard123 | xD |
| 17:42.19 | wizard123 | bsd !!!!!! |
| 17:42.24 | Mutacion | and im mess with elive for macs |
| 17:42.24 | wizard123 | oops |
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| 17:44.12 | anquietas | Hmh. What does the "auto" function of the equalizer do? And... how does it do it? |
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| 17:44.44 | roxville | it looks at your ears, and measures the amount of wax-buildup |
| 17:44.56 | roxville | to adjust the treble |
| 17:45.02 | wizard123 | lol |
| 17:45.05 | anquietas | Ah. |
| 17:45.09 | Bryanstein_ | hahahahahaha |
| 17:45.17 | Bryanstein_ | in realtime |
| 17:45.22 | roxville | oh yeah |
| 17:45.33 | anquietas | Of course. :P |
| 17:45.50 | wizard123 | yeah, but only on kernels with rt patches ;) |
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| 17:46.01 | roxville | i'm not sure... maybe it tries to correct every mp3 so it sounds similar |
| 17:46.01 | Bryanstein_ | well I could actually tell you how it kind of works anquietas |
| 17:46.12 | Bryanstein_ | that is about right roxville |
| 17:46.20 | Bryanstein_ | it normalizes the sound |
| 17:46.35 | anquietas | How? Does it flatten the amplitudes? |
| 17:46.36 | roxville | based on RMS |
| 17:46.41 | anquietas | Ah. |
| 17:46.44 | wizard123 | no, first it allows you to play few hords on your guitar |
| 17:46.46 | Bryanstein_ | it looks at the wave form and the peaks and amplitudes |
| 17:46.46 | roxville | i suppose |
| 17:46.49 | Gran_Ger | Hi Thanatermesis. I still have the resolution problem at my screen. As you told me before, I Downloaded the Elive-Macbook |
| 17:46.51 | roxville | yeah |
| 17:46.52 | wizard123 | than it measures tuning |
| 17:47.03 | keyra | Gran_Ger: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 17:47.18 | Gran_Ger | But, it doesn't fix the problem. |
| 17:47.25 | roxville | Gran_Ger, welcome to #elive :) how can we help you? |
| 17:47.33 | anquietas | Kch. |
| 17:47.36 | roxville | oh |
| 17:47.40 | Gran_Ger | Hi roxville. |
| 17:47.40 | roxville | sorry, i saw it |
| 17:47.44 | Gran_Ger | ok. |
| 17:48.02 | wizard123 | if you need theme support: press roxville |
| 17:48.04 | anquietas | Bryanstein_, I don't really notice a change when I turn "auto" on. |
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| 17:48.12 | roxville | yeah Gran_Ger that's for Thanatermesis |
| 17:48.16 | wizard123 | if you want unix internals help, press Bryanstein_ |
| 17:48.18 | roxville | or wasynyt , maybe |
| 17:48.23 | roxville | and Mutacion |
| 17:48.39 | roxville | lol wizard123 |
| 17:48.52 | anquietas | =D |
| 17:49.02 | wizard123 | if you want to loose your time, press wizard123 |
| 17:49.32 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, you need to play another sound file that has dynamics much different than the one you are playing now |
| 17:50.14 | Bryanstein_ | say you have two different files with different compression levels and one plays much louder than the other |
| 17:50.27 | anquietas | Ah,it samples many files and then tries to normalize all of them to a level all commonly share. |
| 17:50.47 | Bryanstein_ | it will try and adjust the sound to all the files play at the same volume |
| 17:50.48 | Bryanstein_ | yes |
| 17:51.30 | Bryanstein_ | people aren't suppose to answer these types of questions |
| 17:51.43 | anquietas | Why not? O.o |
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| 17:52.02 | Bryanstein_ | lol because...ummm I don't know |
| 17:53.03 | anquietas | I would love to ask you, too, whether the "auto" function uses a fast fourier transform to do its job. ^^ |
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| 17:54.45 | anquietas | No, seriously... why are people not supposed to answer such questions? |
| 17:55.54 | anquietas | I surmise that you hate me now. :/ |
| 17:56.11 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, this is a whole other field of information...fast fourier is algorithm indeed |
| 17:56.20 | Bryanstein_ | no I don't hate you |
| 17:56.23 | Bryanstein_ | I was just kidding |
| 17:56.58 | Bryanstein_ | but you are getting into some heavy stuff here |
| 17:57.33 | Gran_Ger | Somebody knows why the I can't get the desire resolution on my 19" widescreen with an NVidia Card? |
| 17:57.51 | Bryanstein_ | because your xorg is wrong Gran_Ger |
| 17:58.08 | Bryanstein_ | it's pretty cool that you even knew of the FFT anquietas |
| 17:58.27 | Gran_Ger | Ok. What should I do to fix the xOrg? |
| 17:58.40 | Bryanstein_ | fix the monitor section |
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| 17:59.47 | anquietas | I have a book on complex analysis lying infront of me... had to look the FFT up again. I just love maths/physics/science in general, that's it, Bryanstein_. |
| 18:00.29 | Gran_Ger | Ok Bryanstein, could you help me please to fix that problem? Because I'm Using the Live CD, not the installed section. |
| 18:00.42 | Bryanstein_ | anquietas, math/physics/science = actuality |
| 18:00.49 | Bryanstein_ | good stuff |
| 18:01.01 | anquietas | Grand stuff. It's my life. |
| 18:01.33 | Bryanstein_ | Gran_Ger, what is your monitor |
| 18:04.54 | Gran_Ger | It's a LCD 19" WideScreen |
| 18:05.01 | Gran_Ger | LG Flatron L192WS |
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| 18:07.03 | anquietas | Hmh. |
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| 18:07.11 | anquietas | wb NathanExplosion |
| 18:09.45 | anquietas | Hm. Silence. |
| 18:09.47 | Bryanstein_ | 1 sec Gran_Ger |
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| 18:11.36 | NathanExplosion | thanks anquietas |
| 18:11.40 | wizard123 | hehe, fluxbox ready ^^ |
| 18:11.57 | wizard123 | my gui is beginning to look like a gui |
| 18:12.41 | roxville | with fluxbox, that is all it'll ever do... |
| 18:13.09 | NathanExplosion | i don't think i'll be here long |
| 18:13.28 | wizard123 | roxville: e17 will be next |
| 18:13.37 | wizard123 | or maybe etoile ? |
| 18:13.39 | roxville | ahhh... now you're talking :) |
| 18:15.16 | anquietas | Hmm. |
| 18:15.27 | anquietas | wizard123, could you make a screenshot? |
| 18:15.38 | roxville | that's what i said too, NathanExplosion ...and now it's been two years... |
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| 18:16.34 | wasynyt_mac | good evening people |
| 18:16.36 | Bryanstein_ | Gran_Ger, |
| 18:16.42 | Bryanstein_ | hey wasynyt_mac |
| 18:16.49 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 18:17.03 | Gran_Ger | yep Bryantein |
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| 18:17.24 | anquietas | Welcome back wirechief. |
| 18:17.29 | Bryanstein_ | I'm having a hardtime findind the vsync and hsync of your monitor |
| 18:17.38 | anquietas | And greetings wasynyt_mac. |
| 18:17.39 | wirechief | thanks |
| 18:17.46 | Bryanstein_ | what other live cd's do you have where the resolutionb works |
| 18:17.51 | wizard123 | anquietas: of fluxbox :P ? |
| 18:17.57 | Gran_Ger | Mandriva 2007 |
| 18:17.58 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 18:18.11 | wizard123 | wait a second |
| 18:18.19 | Bryanstein_ | do you have linux installed anywhere on the computer? |
| 18:18.47 | Gran_Ger | At this moment, I'm using Ubuntu with Beryl |
| 18:18.48 | wizard123 | anquietas: or even more |
| 18:18.59 | wizard123 | o don't have anyting to make a screenshot :D |
| 18:19.04 | wizard123 | only xwd |
| 18:19.20 | Bryanstein_ | well look at the /etc/Xll/xorg.conf on your ubuntu partition |
| 18:19.27 | Gran_Ger | ok. |
| 18:19.28 | anquietas | Heh, well, what's fluxbox? |
| 18:19.50 | Bryanstein_ | look at the monitor section and compare it to the one in elive |
| 18:19.55 | wirechief | i use ksnapshot |
| 18:19.58 | wizard123 | anquietas: window manager |
| 18:20.02 | Gran_Ger | Ok. I'll do |
| 18:20.39 | Bryanstein_ | change the v and h sync to what it says in the ubuntu partition...exit enlightenment...hit ctrl + alt + backspace |
| 18:20.52 | Bryanstein_ | then log back in Gran_Ger |
| 18:21.34 | Gran_Ger | Ok. the Monitor Section right? Not the screen section. |
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| 18:22.15 | Gran_Ger | but, the changes has effect?, because I'll use the Live Version. |
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| 18:22.23 | Gran_Ger | Or I need to install it? |
| 18:22.41 | wirechief | will only last with yur current session |
| 18:22.52 | Bryanstein_ | no just go to shell and edit the file |
| 18:22.55 | Ezep | hey Gran_Ger! :D |
| 18:23.13 | Gran_Ger | Hey! Ezep!!! What Ups!!! So long!!! |
| 18:23.14 | Bryanstein_ | I use vi ,but use what ever suits you |
| 18:23.49 | Ezep | Gran_Ger: u remember me? =) |
| 18:23.52 | Gran_Ger | Ok Bryanstein, I'll do. The default edit for that is scite |
| 18:23.57 | Gran_Ger | Of Course Ezep! |
| 18:24.06 | keyra | Gran_Ger: Please, do not use scite, it has a bug and BROKEN the files, use gedit or cream instead if you don't know vim/emacs/joe... a better explanation is in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=412270 |
| 18:24.32 | Gran_Ger | Ok. I'll use Vim |
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| 18:25.15 | Gran_Ger | But, if Scite has a bug, why Is at still as the default Editor? |
| 18:25.54 | DvineLord | cream is default editor |
| 18:25.58 | DvineLord | or it was for me |
| 18:26.09 | Ezep | Gran_Ger: u have elive gem? |
| 18:26.17 | wizard123 | mousepad would be a better idea :] |
| 18:26.20 | wizard123 | or gedit |
| 18:26.26 | DvineLord | gedit would be best |
| 18:26.41 | Bryanstein_ | vi would be the best actually |
| 18:26.45 | DvineLord | joe |
| 18:26.46 | DvineLord | =) |
| 18:26.49 | Bryanstein_ | as long as you know what you are doing |
| 18:26.52 | DvineLord | i like joe for cli |
| 18:26.55 | wizard123 | ok, i need a smoke |
| 18:27.01 | wizard123 | :] |
| 18:27.02 | wirechief | lol |
| 18:27.15 | Bryanstein_ | I'm goin to buy a vi t-shirt for me and wizard123 |
| 18:27.24 | wizard123 | great! |
| 18:27.26 | wirechief | vi is for wizards |
| 18:27.39 | Gran_Ger | Yep, Ezep, I downloaded it last week. |
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| 18:27.50 | Bryanstein_ | if everything breaks on a system...no matter what..vi will be there |
| 18:27.56 | wizard123 | and smoking :] |
| 18:27.56 | Bryanstein_ | no gedit...no cream |
| 18:28.25 | Ezep | Bryanstein: i like nano because it's more easy |
| 18:28.27 | wirechief | Bryanstein, use jed it might make you quit. |
| 18:28.54 | wirechief | you can copy and paste easily |
| 18:28.54 | Bryanstein_ | Ezep, yes it's faster if you don't know how to use Vi...that is surely right |
| 18:29.08 | keyra | wirechief: for copy and paste any text, just highlight it with the mouse, and paste with the middle button of the mouse, if you don't have a middle button, press left and right buttons at the same time |
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| 18:29.26 | wirechief | yep |
| 18:29.40 | Bryanstein_ | wirechief, the only thing is that using an editor like that will keep you from using vi |
| 18:29.44 | Gran_Ger | Bryanstein, I Asumed that the default Editor was Scite, because when I Use (even in Gem) the Menu Option |
| 18:29.46 | Bryanstein_ | or shall I say learning |
| 18:30.08 | wirechief | Bryanstein, true, and vi is a great program for learning |
| 18:30.27 | DvineLord | vi is great if u know all the keyboard commands |
| 18:30.27 | wirechief | its been around for a long time |
| 18:30.32 | Bryanstein_ | vi is like the gimp of editors |
| 18:30.50 | Ezep | Bryanstein: console text editors |
| 18:30.51 | wirechief | DvineLord, thats what people use google for |
| 18:30.52 | DvineLord | joe is simple editor |
| 18:30.54 | Gran_Ger | it appears Scite as an Editor |
| 18:31.23 | wirechief | with vi you learn and learn and learn some more. |
| 18:31.32 | DvineLord | yea |
| 18:31.40 | Bryanstein_ | it'll smack you in the mouth a few times, but once you learn it...it's priceless |
| 18:31.46 | wirechief | but when you have learned it you can eat rice with it. |
| 18:31.47 | Bryanstein_ | lol righr wirechief |
| 18:31.56 | DvineLord | but id use pico or nano for my own use |
| 18:32.05 | wirechief | yes, i like nano |
| 18:32.12 | Bryanstein_ | nano is nice |
| 18:32.17 | Bryanstein_ | pico too |
| 18:32.20 | wirechief | it has lots of possibilities |
| 18:32.52 | Bryanstein_ | you know what .Thanatermesis uses to code with |
| 18:33.06 | Bryanstein_ | vi |
| 18:33.18 | wirechief | what about us "normal" users ? |
| 18:33.28 | Ezep | vi hilight code? |
| 18:33.34 | Bryanstein_ | lol yes he is an alien |
| 18:33.37 | wizard123 | vim does |
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| 18:34.45 | Ezep | wizard123: vim does what? |
| 18:35.00 | wizard123 | highlighs code |
| 18:35.04 | Ezep | cool :D |
| 18:35.16 | wirechief | Bryanstein, do you remember the command to launch /etc/netork/interfacesold with ? is it networking restart -p interfacesold |
| 18:35.54 | wirechief | where interfacesold is a clone of interfaces but with diffrent code to use wired connetion |
| 18:36.27 | wirechief | LinuxITT gave the command once. |
| 18:36.36 | wirechief | i have miss placed it. |
| 18:36.59 | Bryanstein_ | what do you mean /etc/init.d/networking restart? |
| 18:37.06 | anquietas | I am going to copy files. Catch y'all later! |
| 18:37.08 | anquietas | Ciao |
| 18:37.10 | wirechief | ah, yes |
| 18:37.14 | wirechief | bye |
| 18:37.31 | Bryanstein_ | lol I'm gone agai |
| 18:37.33 | wirechief | i knew there was some folder names before the command |
| 18:37.36 | Bryanstein_ | again |
| 18:37.42 | wirechief | bye |
| 18:38.24 | DvineLord | acaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 18:38.28 | DvineLord | =) |
| 18:39.36 | wirechief | must be knapp time |
| 18:40.02 | Gran_Ger | Ok., Bryanstein, I'll try, I'm going to disconnect know from here and try with the ELive CD. |
| 18:40.12 | wirechief | good luck |
| 18:40.16 | Gran_Ger | know = now |
| 18:40.27 | wirechief | also you could try noapic |
| 18:40.48 | wirechief | it might cure your prob |
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| 18:46.53 | DvineLord | i used to turn off acpi,apic,pnp in bios |
| 18:46.59 | DvineLord | now i just say screw it and leave it how it is |
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| 19:04.58 | Gran_Ger | Hi, I'm here again, now I'm writting from the Elive Gem Live CD |
| 19:05.20 | Gran_Ger | but, I don't know how to modifiy the file xorg.conf |
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| 19:06.46 | wirechief | hello Gran_Ger |
| 19:07.01 | keyra | wirechief: hi |
| 19:07.50 | wirechief | Gran_Ger, can you just cp xorg.conf another partition? |
| 19:08.46 | wirechief | or a usb stick? |
| 19:09.07 | Gran_Ger | Ok. wirechief, what should I do then |
| 19:09.38 | wirechief | can you tell me what it is your end goal of doing is? |
| 19:10.21 | Gran_Ger | jejeje. Ok wirechief, I have a problem with my monitor resolution. I have a 19" WideScreen Monitor |
| 19:10.23 | wasynyt_mac | gran |
| 19:10.32 | wasynyt_mac | just make a renamed copy of that file |
| 19:10.35 | keyra | Gran_Ger: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 19:10.42 | wasynyt_mac | ie xorg.conf1 |
| 19:10.47 | Gran_Ger | and an NVidia Card GeForce 6100 |
| 19:10.58 | wasynyt_mac | and then open the original xorg.conf |
| 19:11.10 | wasynyt_mac | to be able to edit it you need to be root |
| 19:11.20 | wasynyt_mac | so in terminal su |
| 19:11.34 | wasynyt_mac | then some text editor (what you like use) |
| 19:11.40 | Gran_Ger | Ok. I'm using the Live Version |
| 19:11.46 | wasynyt_mac | then open the xorg.conf file there |
| 19:11.51 | Gran_Ger | It functions anyway? |
| 19:12.07 | wirechief | i have a Nvidia GeForce 6100 and elive i never had to change anything. |
| 19:12.10 | wasynyt_mac | i think it shoud |
| 19:12.16 | wasynyt_mac | keyra hotkeys |
| 19:12.30 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: http://wiki.elivecd.org/index.php?title=Enlightenment_HotKeys |
| 19:12.40 | wasynyt_mac | i think the problem is his display not being properly confed |
| 19:13.15 | wirechief | oh, so he has it installed already. |
| 19:13.28 | wirechief | k |
| 19:13.41 | wasynyt_mac | nope in live mode |
| 19:13.52 | wasynyt_mac | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.54 | wasynyt_mac | ! |
| 19:14.36 | wasynyt_mac | ctrl + alt + end should do the restarting magic for your changes to happen |
| 19:14.44 | Theoden-e17 | http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/madill48/?action=view¤t=musicscreen.png |
| 19:15.38 | Gran_Ger | wasynt_mac, do you have a WideScreen also? |
| 19:15.49 | wasynyt_mac | nope |
| 19:16.05 | wasynyt_mac | but that actually does not mater |
| 19:16.07 | wasynyt_mac | *matter |
| 19:16.39 | wirechief | mine is 19" flat and works with elive fine. |
| 19:16.41 | Gran_Ger | Apparently, because I can't see the full Screen. |
| 19:16.42 | wasynyt_mac | Theoden-e17 is that one screen or the both ? |
| 19:16.53 | Theoden-e17 | ?? |
| 19:17.04 | wasynyt_mac | ? how is the picture in your screen |
| 19:17.07 | keyra | Theoden-e17: Great Caesars Ghost...how many question marks do you need just to ask one question... |
| 19:17.37 | Theoden-e17 | One screen |
| 19:17.47 | wasynyt_mac | have you tried using the auto button on your monitor.. and have you checed what resolution comes to your screen |
| 19:17.52 | wasynyt_mac | theoden k |
| 19:18.11 | Gran_Ger | wasynyt_mac, I made the changes, what should I do now? |
| 19:18.37 | wasynyt_mac | then you save it as xorg.conf |
| 19:18.40 | wasynyt_mac | then |
| 19:18.47 | wasynyt_mac | ctrl + alt + end |
| 19:19.15 | wasynyt_mac | you can also try ctrl alt backspace |
| 19:20.18 | Theoden-e17 | http://s207.photobucket.com/albums/bb48/madill48/?action=view¤t=e17-love.png |
| 19:21.59 | wasynyt_mac | that looks quite nice |
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| 19:35.43 | Theoden-e17 | wasynyt_mac: thx |
| 19:35.44 | PrinceAMD | GOOD MORNING / NIGHT / AFTERNOON / DAY EVERYONG |
| 19:35.52 | Theoden-e17 | Hey PrinceAMD |
| 19:36.00 | PrinceAMD | hey Theoden-e17 :) |
| 19:36.01 | wasynyt_mac | good evening PrinceAMD |
| 19:36.15 | PrinceAMD | wasynyt_mac :) |
| 19:37.21 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 19:37.25 | Mutacion | are u in a mac? wasynyt_mac |
| 19:37.42 | wasynyt_mac | yes i am on mac |
| 19:37.48 | Mutacion | elive? |
| 19:37.57 | Mutacion | parallels? |
| 19:38.23 | wasynyt_mac | not running elive at the moment but i have the elive iso for macbooks here ;P |
| 19:38.57 | Ezep | with filesystem use mac OS ? |
| 19:39.12 | wasynyt_mac | file system.. hfs+ |
| 19:39.23 | Ezep | which* |
| 19:39.37 | Ezep | hfs+... ok |
| 19:39.44 | wasynyt_mac | heh |
| 19:39.50 | wasynyt_mac | something special |
| 19:39.53 | wasynyt_mac | lile ntfs |
| 19:39.56 | wasynyt_mac | i guess |
| 19:39.59 | Ezep | bah :( |
| 19:40.07 | wasynyt_mac | :/ |
| 19:40.07 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 19:40.07 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 19:40.45 | Mutacion | wasynyt_mac: im lso using a mac.. and tryng to use elive but native.. hopping thana finish the iso xD |
| 19:41.01 | wasynyt_mac | well i think it works very well |
| 19:41.19 | wasynyt_mac | the installer has some problems tho.. or so i have heard |
| 19:42.41 | Mutacion | yeah i also heard the same thing |
| 19:42.44 | Mutacion | brb.. im sleeping |
| 19:42.58 | wasynyt_mac | or later |
| 19:42.59 | wasynyt_mac | ;P |
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| 19:52.49 | Gran_Ger | Hi all! let me tell you that I finally get the right resolution. |
| 19:53.17 | Gran_Ger | I use the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg command |
| 19:53.36 | Ezep | great :D |
| 19:54.04 | wasynyt_mac | nice |
| 19:54.05 | Gran_Ger | Apparently, The Elive Gem has a bug with the WideScreen Resolution, because the xorg.conf doesn't be the right |
| 19:54.13 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 19:54.24 | wasynyt_mac | that should be told to thana when he is around |
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| 19:54.57 | Gran_Ger | yep. |
| 19:55.26 | Gran_Ger | well, I have to go now to eat. |
| 19:55.28 | Ezep | im virtualicing Gem :D |
| 19:55.40 | wasynyt_mac | hmm |
| 19:55.41 | Gran_Ger | Greathings to all of you |
| 19:55.51 | Gran_Ger | bye |
| 19:55.51 | wasynyt_mac | good evening to you too |
| 19:55.56 | wasynyt_mac | see you later |
| 19:56.01 | Ezep | cya Gran_Ger |
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| 19:56.44 | ma_tex | hello |
| 19:56.58 | keyra | ma_tex: hi |
| 19:57.00 | wasynyt_mac | good evening ma_tex |
| 19:57.15 | ma_tex | keyra, hi:) |
| 19:57.29 | keyra | ma_tex: hi :) |
| 19:57.36 | wasynyt_mac | keyra bot |
| 19:57.50 | keyra | wasynyt_mac: bot |
| 19:58.02 | ma_tex | wasynyt_mac, good evening |
| 19:58.12 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
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| 19:59.40 | ma_tex | wasynyt_mac, every one speak keyra is bot :D |
| 19:59.50 | wasynyt_mac | :D |
| 19:59.54 | keyra | ma_tex: you think so ? |
| 20:00.00 | wasynyt_mac | well we just remind here that she is |
| 20:01.23 | Ezep | apt give me a beer |
| 20:01.24 | apt | ACTION hands ezep a cold beer |
| 20:01.28 | ma_tex | keyra, you aren't bot |
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| 20:01.42 | keyra | ma_tex: me ? |
| 20:01.42 | wasynyt_mac | good evening Bryanstein- |
| 20:02.00 | ma_tex | keyra, yes |
| 20:02.14 | keyra | ma_tex: :) |
| 20:02.25 | ma_tex | :) |
| 20:02.58 | mandog | people should not say ntfs does not work on linux thats total rubbish |
| 20:03.12 | keyra | mandog: ntfs ? hahahaha, what are you trying to do ? you know to that filesystem is made by Gates to fuck the Linux users ? It's especially made closed and totally incompatible with all standards, don't use it, you'll lose a lot of time farting around with that junk ! (and your data lol) |
| 20:03.15 | Bryanstein- | hey wasynyt_mac ...I'm trying to get some things working |
| 20:03.30 | wasynyt_mac | and what might those be ? |
| 20:04.13 | mandog | iv'e been using it for a year no problem |
| 20:04.51 | mandog | more problems with native linux |
| 20:06.43 | mandog | the more linux makes things compatible the more harm it does to Mr Gates |
| 20:07.44 | wasynyt_mac | well i think that most of the work is done because someone wants to acces theyre files |
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| 20:08.19 | mandog | and seeing linux can read and write to ntfs and windows can't see linux its one up |
| 20:08.29 | wasynyt_mac | good evening bryan |
| 20:08.43 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 20:08.57 | wasynyt_mac | but in the end the ntfs file system is not that special.. |
| 20:09.21 | wasynyt_mac | i think that the most advaced file system can be found from linux or unix |
| 20:09.29 | wasynyt_mac | variant |
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| 20:09.40 | Ezep | ext4 would be great |
| 20:09.48 | wasynyt_mac | yeah |
| 20:09.53 | wasynyt_mac | when they get it done.. |
| 20:10.07 | wasynyt_mac | but still the ext3 is not that bad.. considering its age |
| 20:10.12 | mandog | no its not but people that have windows and then use linux still get access to their files |
| 20:10.18 | Elive_user5 | how do i configure engage? |
| 20:10.48 | Theoden-e17 | Elive_user5: Well - first you need a girl. |
| 20:11.03 | wounsel | ok |
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| 20:11.06 | Theoden-e17 | lol |
| 20:11.13 | wasynyt_mac | good evening wounsel |
| 20:11.18 | Ezep | ups |
| 20:11.19 | wounsel | hill |
| 20:11.20 | wounsel | o |
| 20:11.34 | bryan | hey can anyone read this |
| 20:11.34 | wounsel | sorry im new to enlightenment |
| 20:11.39 | wounsel | bryan: yes |
| 20:11.40 | bryan | or an I being ignored |
| 20:11.42 | bryan | lol ok |
| 20:11.50 | bryan | I thought I wasn't going crazy |
| 20:12.07 | bryan | this is bryanstein using irssi from my server |
| 20:12.09 | wounsel | how do i configure engage bar guys? |
| 20:12.09 | wasynyt_mac | bryan why are you asking ? |
| 20:14.09 | wounsel | u guys are useless :P |
| 20:14.56 | DvineLord | hah |
| 20:16.44 | wounsel | how do i configure the engage bar, forizzle this time |
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| 20:17.21 | wounsel | giez!!!!!!!11111111 how |
| 20:17.24 | DvineLord | ask capitain picard |
| 20:17.30 | wounsel | this has got to be easy |
| 20:17.31 | DvineLord | sorry |
| 20:17.38 | DvineLord | i think its easy |
| 20:17.41 | anquietas | What? |
| 20:17.43 | DvineLord | but its alot of configuring |
| 20:17.56 | wounsel | just to make a couple extra apps put on it? |
| 20:17.59 | anquietas | Linux is much more comfortable than Windows, if this is the topic. |
| 20:18.06 | wounsel | no |
| 20:18.25 | wounsel | do you know how to put another app on it |
| 20:18.54 | anquietas | Application? Program? Yes. Open the terminal, search for it in the repository, find it, install it. Done. |
| 20:19.04 | wounsel | stfu |
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| 20:19.13 | wounsel | you dont know what i'm talking bout |
| 20:19.17 | anquietas | No. |
| 20:19.32 | anquietas | I just got in here... how could I know. |
| 20:19.46 | mandog | been using Gem since its launch its really good |
| 20:20.21 | anquietas | wizard123, still here? |
| 20:20.38 | mandog | used Feisty and edgy before but they are very buggy |
| 20:21.03 | wounsel | gem isnt based on debian? |
| 20:21.08 | DvineLord | i thought engage was the little bar thing at the bottom |
| 20:21.09 | wounsel | feisty and edgy are too |
| 20:21.12 | wounsel | it is |
| 20:21.18 | DvineLord | i just drag the left corner icon into it |
| 20:21.22 | DvineLord | and it adds a link |
| 20:21.32 | DvineLord | then u gotta configure its icon and stuff |
| 20:21.42 | mandog | it is debian4 |
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| 20:22.36 | wounsel | anquietas: sorry i told you to stfu |
| 20:22.42 | mandog | Ubuntu is now so far from debian that its almost its own Distro |
| 20:22.42 | wounsel | :{ |
| 20:23.00 | anquietas | Hehe, no problem, I don't mind. |
| 20:25.46 | anquietas | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.53 | anquietas | See you later |
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| 20:51.20 | chi11y | hello all |
| 20:51.34 | keyra | chi11y: hi |
| 20:51.46 | ma_tex | chlly, hi |
| 20:51.50 | chi11y | hi keyra |
| 20:51.51 | chi11y | hi apt |
| 20:52.00 | chi11y | hi ma_tex |
| 20:52.04 | keyra | chi11y: hi :) |
| 20:52.05 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 20:52.12 | chi11y | good evening |
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| 20:53.22 | anquietas | Back... |
| 20:54.07 | wasynyt | welcome back anquietas |
| 20:54.31 | anquietas | Hm. You don't happen to know how to add new background images to E17? ;P |
| 20:54.55 | chi11y | add them to ~/.e/backgrounds |
| 20:54.59 | chi11y | I think it is |
| 20:55.03 | chi11y | or something like that |
| 20:55.12 | chi11y | Im not on elive, currently |
| 20:55.23 | anquietas | Hm... ~/.e/e/backgrounds, you meant |
| 20:55.33 | chi11y | and then leftclick -> configuration -> background |
| 20:55.37 | chi11y | yup |
| 20:57.21 | anquietas | Does it need to have a special fileformat? |
| 20:57.31 | anquietas | Currently it's a jpeg file. |
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| 21:02.16 | Elive_user28 | anybody know how i can get tapping to work on my laptop touchpad |
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| 21:13.05 | wirechief | Elive_user28, check out man synclient |
| 21:13.45 | wirechief | Elive_user28, use synclient -l to check settings |
| 21:13.53 | wasynyt_mac | good night people |
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| 21:14.11 | wirechief | good night |
| 21:14.25 | Elive_user28 | thanks i just didn't know the command |
| 21:14.40 | wirechief | it works well to turn it off too. |
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| 21:15.05 | wirechief | especially when your mouse and cursor start playing games |
| 21:15.59 | Elive_user28 | i never have that problem-some distros it works perfect-others not at all |
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| 21:16.15 | wizard123 | wirechief: that means a cat is in the near |
| 21:16.30 | wirechief | lol |
| 21:16.42 | wirechief | loni is checking the cursor as i type |
| 21:17.05 | wirechief | she is so cute, if i leave the room she starts crying for me. |
| 21:17.25 | wizard123 | who's loni ? |
| 21:17.39 | Elive_user28 | says "can't access shared memory area, SHMConfig disabled?" |
| 21:17.42 | wirechief | you havent seen Loni the cat ? |
| 21:18.01 | wirechief | Elive_user28, you have to put that in your xorg.cong |
| 21:18.04 | wirechief | conf |
| 21:18.12 | wirechief | and restart |
| 21:18.29 | Elive_user28 | in the synaptics section? |
| 21:18.35 | wirechief | wizard123, she is on googles video, Loni the cat |
| 21:18.36 | wirechief | yes |
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| 21:19.04 | wizard123 | ah, so the cat :) |
| 21:19.31 | Elive_user28 | what exactly do i type in |
| 21:19.38 | wirechief | i can give you a look at mine just a min |
| 21:19.54 | anquietas | Sadly E17 is still a bit buggy. |
| 21:20.38 | anquietas | Currently it shut down the fake transparency of XChat, and it does not allow me to add new backgrounds. |
| 21:22.02 | anquietas | I shall return in a few minutes' time. >.< |
| 21:22.29 | wirechief | http://paste.debian.net/33707 |
| 21:22.32 | wirechief | check that |
| 21:23.14 | wirechief | dont mess with the settings just see where i put the shared memory coding |
| 21:23.30 | wirechief | it will give you a idea where to put it |
| 21:24.12 | Elive_user28 | thanks checking it out now |
| 21:24.14 | wirechief | options "SHMConfig "on" |
| 21:24.22 | wirechief | something like that |
| 21:24.33 | Elive_user28 | loni-cute cat too |
| 21:25.00 | wirechief | yes, she is on googles video as Loni the cat there are two clips |
| 21:25.13 | wizard123 | SHaredMemory ? |
| 21:25.15 | wizard123 | o_O |
| 21:25.19 | wirechief | yes |
| 21:25.22 | wizard123 | no! |
| 21:25.24 | wizard123 | never! |
| 21:25.31 | wirechief | it works |
| 21:25.33 | wizard123 | bugs! hackers! |
| 21:25.39 | wizard123 | buffer overflows! |
| 21:26.12 | wirechief | well thats what is required by several debian programs |
| 21:26.21 | wirechief | ksynaptics is one |
| 21:27.00 | wirechief | synclient another |
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| 21:27.14 | anquietas | Hr. Back... or sort of.. |
| 21:27.29 | wirechief | but if your thinking kde is buggy well there are a lot of users that use kde |
| 21:27.52 | wizard123 | ^^ |
| 21:28.14 | anquietas | ^^ Hmhm. |
| 21:28.15 | wizard123 | and, yes, kde is buggy, but it's bugs are acceptable |
| 21:28.16 | wirechief | if your laptops mouse uses synaptics how do you control it ? |
| 21:28.29 | wizard123 | i bought mouse |
| 21:28.45 | wizard123 | touchpads are for erotomaniacs ;) |
| 21:28.52 | wirechief | yes i have external mouse too but times have no lap to run it on |
| 21:28.55 | anquietas | lol! |
| 21:29.21 | wizard123 | but they are waaaay better than those rubber nipples |
| 21:29.22 | wirechief | ah come on, do you think for the moment that laptop makers put that on just for fun? |
| 21:29.30 | Elive_user28 | ok-i added that line-should i restart computer or just restartx |
| 21:29.48 | wirechief | i think restarting x will do it but give it a try |
| 21:30.12 | wirechief | i think just exiting enlightenment and coming back will do it |
| 21:30.26 | wirechief | but i havent had mousepad problems with Elive |
| 21:30.31 | wirechief | just with other distros |
| 21:30.32 | wizard123 | me too |
| 21:30.34 | Elive_user28 | my dell has both ball mounse and touchpad - i can't stand the trackball |
| 21:30.37 | wizard123 | just like other unices |
| 21:30.59 | wirechief | i actually have to turn it all off when im using my other distro |
| 21:31.10 | wirechief | mouse goes nuts looking for cheese |
| 21:31.17 | wirechief | or women |
| 21:31.23 | wirechief | hehe |
| 21:31.48 | Elive_user28 | works perfect for me on ubuntu from initial install |
| 21:32.03 | anquietas | ...why can't I add new backgrounds. =( I put the image file into the ~/.e/e/backgrounds directory and opened the background settings to apply it. But it didn't show up, ... |
| 21:32.03 | Elive_user28 | on sidux too |
| 21:32.04 | wirechief | somethings do and lots of things dont |
| 21:32.32 | wirechief | mine fails me on sidux so i turn it off |
| 21:32.42 | wirechief | sidux is too fast for it |
| 21:32.59 | wirechief | it boots up and the mouse is still wondering what to do |
| 21:33.14 | Elive_user28 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.18 | Elive_user28 | have |
| 21:33.25 | wirechief | a sony vaio |
| 21:33.54 | Elive_user28 | my dell latitude has alps synaptic and no problem with sidux |
| 21:34.19 | Elive_user28 | this distro doesn't work-huh? |
| 21:34.21 | wirechief | is it running slow on elive ? |
| 21:34.55 | Elive_user28 | yes - it works, moves the mouse pointer, but slowly |
| 21:34.57 | wirechief | this distro is great for graphics and desktop eye candy |
| 21:35.03 | wirechief | yes mine too |
| 21:35.29 | wirechief | but rather it run slowly rather than jump my cursor and try to get to friendly with it |
| 21:36.02 | Elive_user28 | well, brb-restarting x now |
| 21:36.09 | wirechief | good luck |
| 21:36.22 | anquietas | Be right back, too... |
| 21:36.39 | anquietas | Enlightenment currently aims to kill my last nerve... |
| 21:36.50 | wirechief | anquietas, why? |
| 21:37.08 | anquietas | Uhm, because it refuses to do what I demand him to. |
| 21:37.15 | wirechief | hehehe |
| 21:37.33 | anquietas | I can't add a new background, neither can I reactivate the fake transparency. |
| 21:37.39 | wirechief | some things meed trickery to work |
| 21:37.46 | wirechief | i added one |
| 21:37.51 | anquietas | How? |
| 21:38.09 | wirechief | i got it and put it hmm gotta look it up |
| 21:38.27 | anquietas | Into the ~/.e/e/backgrounds directory, I know. |
| 21:38.41 | anquietas | But it does not show up in the backgrounds configuration panel. |
| 21:38.46 | wirechief | ah yes, then i had to do a engage |
| 21:39.12 | wirechief | via configuration |
| 21:39.16 | anquietas | Ah, hm. Could you assist me, please? I don't know how. |
| 21:39.35 | wirechief | i only did one and memory not good for my age. |
| 21:39.40 | wirechief | will try |
| 21:39.53 | wirechief | clik on desktop then configuration |
| 21:39.58 | anquietas | Yes. |
| 21:40.19 | wirechief | then configuration panel |
| 21:40.25 | wirechief | background setting |
| 21:40.26 | anquietas | Yes. Then background settings. |
| 21:40.28 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 21:40.41 | anquietas | Now? |
| 21:40.48 | wirechief | clik on the background you want |
| 21:41.03 | anquietas | This is essentially my problem. It doesn't show up here. |
| 21:41.25 | wirechief | ah ok, well let me see where i put mine at. are you useing e16 ? |
| 21:41.35 | anquietas | E17. |
| 21:41.44 | wirechief | ohhhh thats why |
| 21:41.51 | anquietas | Possibly. |
| 21:41.51 | wirechief | thats still being built |
| 21:42.01 | wirechief | i know, they led me through it |
| 21:42.02 | anquietas | Yes, it can still be quite buggy. |
| 21:42.06 | wirechief | very much |
| 21:42.18 | wirechief | i have it on my desktop and didnt put it on this lappy |
| 21:42.24 | wirechief | i dont like it |
| 21:42.31 | wirechief | its not ready for users yet |
| 21:42.35 | anquietas | True. |
| 21:42.55 | anquietas | But E16 doesn't have this nice 'winter' theme. ^^ |
| 21:42.57 | wirechief | so, i when logging in use e16 |
| 21:43.23 | wirechief | i have a real nice space scene that i got from one of the enlightenment sites on the web broswer |
| 21:43.28 | mandog | if you put your backgruot in you home folder then you can import the backgroud |
| 21:43.45 | wirechief | yes, i seem to remember doing a import |
| 21:44.03 | wirechief | that put it where the configuration panel uses stuff |
| 21:44.03 | anquietas | It seemingly does not work with E17. |
| 21:44.09 | anquietas | There are still some missing parts. |
| 21:44.27 | wirechief | there are a lot of settings to get e17 to play nice |
| 21:44.41 | mandog | if you look in the manual it tells you |
| 21:44.44 | wirechief | when linuxITT comes here ask him |
| 21:45.01 | anquietas | I will. Thanks for the advices. |
| 21:45.05 | wirechief | he walked me through the setup and was not something i can remember |
| 21:45.08 | mandog | i use Gem and it all works |
| 21:45.25 | wirechief | mandog are you using e16 or e17 |
| 21:45.36 | mandog | i use 17 |
| 21:45.55 | anquietas | I'm using Gem/E17, too. It would just be great if everyting were to work as desired. |
| 21:45.59 | wirechief | hmm, well, i stay out of that till i learn more. |
| 21:46.10 | anquietas | Wirechief, are you new to linux? |
| 21:46.16 | wirechief | yes |
| 21:46.24 | wirechief | only been around a little while |
| 21:46.26 | mandog | it all works on my desktop |
| 21:46.32 | anquietas | ^^ Me too. Just a couple of days. |
| 21:46.38 | wirechief | lol |
| 21:46.44 | wirechief | newbie helping newbie |
| 21:46.48 | anquietas | Indeed. |
| 21:47.04 | anquietas | Yet it remains help. :) |
| 21:47.12 | wirechief | but i try to be careful and not venture where fools go in. |
| 21:47.19 | Mutacion | llooool xD |
| 21:47.33 | mandog | its hard to figue out at first but there is a lot of help in the browser |
| 21:47.41 | Mutacion | cookie man seeing a newbie conversation jiji..(eating cookies jiji) |
| 21:47.51 | wirechief | but i will say this, i have been able to install and use most things in linux |
| 21:47.52 | anquietas | o.O |
| 21:48.08 | anquietas | Yes, me too. I am very satisfied with my Elive. |
| 21:48.12 | wirechief | enlightenment is for specialists |
| 21:48.31 | mandog | no its not its simple |
| 21:48.36 | Mutacion | why ur telling E..is por xpecialist? |
| 21:49.08 | anquietas | Hmhm. |
| 21:49.13 | Mutacion | yeah..is the same thing..E = elive... i used to used E under redhat7.. uuuu.. sniff.. miss redhat |
| 21:49.14 | wirechief | well actually i saw one kid that used elive as his first distro and he was navigating very well |
| 21:49.29 | anquietas | Am I the kiddo? XD |
| 21:49.49 | wirechief | no |
| 21:49.55 | mandog | gem is the best iv'e used |
| 21:50.21 | wirechief | its very pretty, have lots to learn with settings and configs though. |
| 21:50.48 | Mutacion | :) |
| 21:51.08 | mandog | not really i first used linux 8 months ago |
| 21:51.14 | wirechief | I found a nice Red Hat tutorial online and it is great for new people. |
| 21:51.52 | wirechief | well mandog are you running with the big dogs now ? |
| 21:52.12 | anquietas | Well, it would fit, at least. Elive is my first distro and it took half a day to learn the interfaces. Therefore it is simple. |
| 21:52.12 | mandog | i am |
| 21:52.15 | Mutacion | but redhat dosent exist for mortals :( |
| 21:52.38 | Mutacion | anquietas: yea? woooow!! u like linux then..ur now a native user jijij xD |
| 21:52.48 | wirechief | mandog good now we little dogs know who to ask for help. |
| 21:52.54 | anquietas | It is not that difficult, Mutacion. ^^ |
| 21:53.21 | Mutacion | jiji.. anquietas yeah i now..but for the 1st time... is was pretty amaizong the time u learned everything |
| 21:53.28 | wirechief | actually easier than windows to use. |
| 21:53.33 | chi11y | yup |
| 21:53.39 | mandog | not really i sust read it from the help in the browser |
| 21:53.42 | Mutacion | i still remember when we had to change the wallpaer with terminal commands xD |
| 21:53.52 | anquietas | "everything" would be exaggerated. ^^ |
| 21:53.53 | chi11y | but many think it isn't because they are used to windows |
| 21:54.01 | chi11y | Mutacion: heh |
| 21:54.05 | chi11y | that is still |
| 21:54.10 | chi11y | o.O |
| 21:54.11 | anquietas | Indeed! Elove is much simplier to use than Windows. |
| 21:54.15 | anquietas | <Elive> |
| 21:54.18 | chi11y | ever used fluxbox? |
| 21:54.24 | chi11y | Elove xD |
| 21:54.26 | wirechief | not yet |
| 21:54.44 | chi11y | its a pain in the a*s |
| 21:54.49 | wirechief | hahaha |
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| 21:54.58 | chi11y | changing wallparper is terminal-only |
| 21:55.21 | chi11y | EVERYTHING is terminal only |
| 21:55.28 | anquietas | With fluxbox? |
| 21:55.30 | Mutacion | chi11y: !! meeemee!!! i used flux!! |
| 21:55.36 | chi11y | and still it is considered to be made for mouse-use |
| 21:55.37 | NicNac | Hey guys :) |
| 21:55.42 | mandog | i'm 57 and Dyslexic so things have to be read over and over for my and as you can see i'm slow replying |
| 21:55.44 | anquietas | Hey NicNac |
| 21:55.47 | wirechief | hey NicNac |
| 21:55.49 | Mutacion | chi11y: i used flux under my old compaq server jijjixD.. |
| 21:55.53 | chi11y | :P |
| 21:56.09 | Mutacion | chi11y: also blackbox!! :o ooohh man!! im really old under linux hahahha |
| 21:56.13 | wirechief | mandog so am i but im 65 |
| 21:56.17 | chi11y | haha :P |
| 21:56.24 | anquietas | XD |
| 21:56.41 | NicNac | Im only 26 :P |
| 21:56.43 | wirechief | but still a kid |
| 21:56.43 | mandog | good for you |
| 21:57.03 | anquietas | I am 17. ^^ ... *sigh* |
| 21:57.05 | wirechief | had a lot of pitfalls to navigate to make it though |
| 21:57.14 | mandog | its nice to see us old dog still have life |
| 21:57.29 | wirechief | after 4 heart operations, im still here. |
| 21:57.42 | chi11y | heh |
| 21:57.50 | mandog | iv'e had 2 |
| 21:58.00 | wirechief | most leave the scene at age 47 |
| 21:58.07 | NicNac | did any of you elive users update your repositry thing yet? |
| 21:58.13 | wirechief | yes |
| 21:58.17 | anquietas | I did not yet. |
| 21:58.25 | NicNac | I did mine this mornin |
| 21:58.32 | wirechief | there were like 3 upgrades to get |
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| 21:58.55 | mandog | and i'm married to a 28 year old with a 3 year old son |
| 21:59.42 | anquietas | =D ... love must be great. |
| 22:00.05 | mandog | i now feel like a 40 year old |
| 22:00.20 | chi11y | lol, internet... peolpe aging from 17 to 65 talking with eachother about nothing really^^ |
| 22:00.42 | wirechief | waiting for a opportunity chilly |
| 22:00.52 | wirechief | no one has a problem to solve |
| 22:00.55 | mandog | its cause you can be anything |
| 22:01.14 | anquietas | For me it's a great feeling to participate in conversations like this. |
| 22:01.20 | wirechief | mandog what distros have you used ? |
| 22:01.22 | chi11y | yup, its great fun |
| 22:01.55 | wirechief | fun to share information and how to's |
| 22:02.28 | wirechief | mandog any favorites besides elive? |
| 22:02.46 | mandog | Ubuntu Suse Mandriva pclinux fedora zenwalk |
| 22:03.03 | mandog | i like Ubuntu |
| 22:03.10 | wirechief | mandog ah,ok what version of fedora ? |
| 22:03.25 | mandog | 7 |
| 22:03.31 | NicNac | I tried version 7 recently |
| 22:03.32 | wirechief | seems they have been making some major strides. |
| 22:03.38 | NicNac | yea its pretty good |
| 22:03.40 | wirechief | how do you rate it? |
| 22:03.52 | mandog | yes its not bad |
| 22:03.54 | NicNac | I'd say its getting as good as ubuntu in a lot of ways |
| 22:03.55 | wirechief | problem is its so huge to download. |
| 22:04.06 | NicNac | nah you can get the live-cd and install it from that |
| 22:04.11 | mandog | not as good as Feisty |
| 22:04.14 | wirechief | i had version 2 back some time ago |
| 22:04.34 | NicNac | I used to use 6.10 ubuntu and it wasnt bad got me into linux |
| 22:04.39 | wirechief | i didnt like the way it updated. |
| 22:04.55 | anquietas | Hm. I have to format my HDDs; See you soonish. |
| 22:05.04 | wirechief | i had unbuntu 6.10 on here and then put fiesty on then elive |
| 22:05.05 | NicNac | ok anquietas |
| 22:05.14 | wirechief | bye anquietas |
| 22:05.17 | anquietas | Ciao ciao |
| 22:05.28 | NicNac | never tried fiesty much of an improvement over 6.10 |
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| 22:05.44 | wirechief | yes a big jump from 6.10 |
| 22:05.52 | mandog | i think elive is the better a this moment in time |
| 22:06.09 | wirechief | yep i think i can agree mandog, |
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| 22:06.34 | NicNac | aye, I've gone from ubuntu to elive seems a lot better |
| 22:06.34 | wirechief | i guess i really like debian based distros |
| 22:06.47 | wirechief | a shame to see them fork |
| 22:07.06 | NicNac | yea I managed to install debian onto a spare pc I'm gonna use as a server |
| 22:07.11 | mandog | its based on a stable distro and in a lot of way bettersit |
| 22:07.19 | wirechief | yes |
| 22:07.55 | NicNac | I just think out of the package managers apt seems to just work logically |
| 22:08.00 | wirechief | i have pclinux or dreamlinux cant remember now, on a seperate drive. |
| 22:08.16 | chi11y | lol |
| 22:08.26 | chi11y | currently I dualboot Elive and Fedora only |
| 22:08.26 | mandog | Ubuntu has moved to far of debian an its not stable like dapper was |
| 22:08.40 | wirechief | i agree with that. its losing people |
| 22:08.43 | chi11y | nope =/ |
| 22:08.44 | wizard123 | mandog: true |
| 22:08.49 | chi11y | yes |
| 22:09.02 | wizard123 | mandog: switching to upstart was one big mistake |
| 22:10.17 | NicNac | anyone tried bsd? |
| 22:10.17 | wirechief | I think all the distros are headed for some big problems now with kernel 2.6.22 and up the coding is just too big |
| 22:10.17 | chi11y | ubuntu has one of the slowest livecd's I know |
| 22:10.19 | DvineLord | how do u bypass the livecd and go right into the installer? |
| 22:10.24 | DvineLord | or is there a way? |
| 22:10.26 | chi11y | NicNac: only PC-BSD |
| 22:10.40 | NicNac | what did you think chilly? |
| 22:10.41 | mandog | they say they are going release the next stable release next year |
| 22:10.43 | chi11y | Dvinelord: I think you can install textmode =) |
| 22:11.11 | wirechief | DvineLord, you mean install from init 3 ? |
| 22:11.26 | chi11y | NicNac: It is quite good, not superb, but still quite good |
| 22:11.42 | chi11y | quite fast |
| 22:11.42 | DvineLord | maybe |
| 22:11.53 | chi11y | but not very nice, in terms of how it looks |
| 22:12.07 | keyra | chi11y: :) |
| 22:12.09 | wirechief | DvineLord, I would not recommend that, follow the installer as the dev intended |
| 22:12.17 | DvineLord | k |
| 22:12.40 | wirechief | there are things going on that X may or maynot be needed to verify stuff |
| 22:12.47 | chi11y | what is wrong with anaconda in textmode? |
| 22:13.03 | wirechief | thats a different distro |
| 22:13.14 | wirechief | follow there installer |
| 22:13.22 | chi11y | ? o/O |
| 22:13.41 | chi11y | so installing from textmode gives you a different distro? |
| 22:13.43 | chi11y | no? |
| 22:13.46 | wirechief | no |
| 22:13.49 | chi11y | text mode is just fine |
| 22:14.15 | wirechief | thats not the meaning, if the developer designed it to click on a particular icon thats what i would do. |
| 22:14.47 | chi11y | nah, anaconda is just as fine in text mode as gui mode |
| 22:14.55 | chi11y | have you even tried it in text-mode? |
| 22:15.02 | wirechief | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.09 | DvineLord | i dont really mind all that much |
| 22:15.10 | wirechief | with debian |
| 22:15.16 | DvineLord | but sometimes it can be slow |
| 22:15.25 | chi11y | anaconda and debian? |
| 22:15.31 | wirechief | well its not like you do it everyday |
| 22:15.43 | wirechief | oops maybe that was fedora or suse |
| 22:15.56 | chi11y | yup it surely was :P |
| 22:15.58 | wirechief | been too many years for that. |
| 22:16.00 | chi11y | fedora |
| 22:16.15 | DvineLord | i havent messed with redhat or suse since 02 |
| 22:16.16 | wirechief | fedora 2 is what i installed |
| 22:16.33 | DvineLord | they ran too slow |
| 22:16.36 | chi11y | and anaconda in text mode is just like the gui, but without the clearlooks interface |
| 22:16.37 | wirechief | my suse experience started with ver 7.1 |
| 22:16.40 | DvineLord | and im basically using the same hardware from 02 |
| 22:16.42 | chi11y | heh |
| 22:16.45 | DvineLord | so i probably shouldnt try them again |
| 22:16.56 | DvineLord | cause im sure it would be even slower |
| 22:16.59 | chi11y | suse is so damn bloated its sick |
| 22:17.07 | wirechief | i enjoy using the command line, and prefer to do my upgrades in it. |
| 22:17.14 | DvineLord | there control panel works well |
| 22:17.19 | DvineLord | but it ran way to slow |
| 22:17.22 | wirechief | actually in init 3 |
| 22:17.24 | DvineLord | not as slow as mandrake did though |
| 22:17.34 | NicNac | I tried gentoo but it frustrated ne too much :P |
| 22:17.40 | wirechief | DvineLord, have you tried MCNlive ? |
| 22:17.42 | DvineLord | tried sabayon? |
| 22:17.46 | DvineLord | no |
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| 22:17.51 | wirechief | it is cool |
| 22:18.07 | DvineLord | back in 02 i installed redhat,suse,mandrake |
| 22:18.10 | wirechief | you can have fun with that, and even remaster if you want |
| 22:18.16 | DvineLord | and attempted freebsd,debian |
| 22:18.20 | DvineLord | and i also ran solaris |
| 22:18.36 | chi11y | sabayon is nice |
| 22:18.41 | wizard123 | DvineLord: and what about SCO UnixWare and QNX ? |
| 22:18.46 | chi11y | but emerge is slooow.. |
| 22:18.46 | DvineLord | this time around ive been focusing on debian and slackware based distros |
| 22:18.52 | NicNac | sabayon is alright? |
| 22:18.53 | DvineLord | na |
| 22:18.59 | NicNac | I mean! |
| 22:19.11 | wirechief | DvineLord, sounds like slackware is more what you would like |
| 22:19.12 | chi11y | sabayon is really nice except its package managing |
| 22:19.17 | chi11y | its good but slow |
| 22:19.22 | chi11y | slackware? |
| 22:19.26 | wizard123 | it uses apt, imho |
| 22:19.32 | chi11y | people still use it for desktop use? :O |
| 22:19.34 | wizard123 | slackware rox! |
| 22:19.50 | wirechief | slackware is for those who love to customize |
| 22:19.53 | DvineLord | this time around i did kwort,elive,dreamlinux,dsl,zenwalk,vectorlinux,linuxmint,xubuntu, and alot of slax style distros |
| 22:19.57 | chi11y | heh ok |
| 22:20.11 | wirechief | DvineLord, have you tried sidux? |
| 22:20.20 | DvineLord | i think i read on distrowatch |
| 22:20.24 | chi11y | dvinelord: have tried all of them except kwort wtf is kwort? |
| 22:20.24 | DvineLord | didnt look like i had use for it |
| 22:20.27 | wirechief | its fast |
| 22:20.37 | DvineLord | http://kwort.org |
| 22:20.39 | DvineLord | its kool |
| 22:20.49 | wirechief | has most of the tools you need to do anything you want |
| 22:20.56 | chi11y | ok =) |
| 22:20.59 | DvineLord | there repos are worthless |
| 22:21.11 | DvineLord | and doesnt use slapt-get or gslapt |
| 22:21.22 | DvineLord | but its nice |
| 22:21.24 | DvineLord | and really fast |
| 22:21.52 | wizard123 | that is pretty nice distro |
| 22:22.00 | wirechief | but when i want to do VM i like to use MCNlive |
| 22:22.04 | DvineLord | i was having hell of alot of trouble with there kernel-source package |
| 22:22.20 | DvineLord | dont really know the steps to configure it |
| 22:22.31 | DvineLord | other distros its already configured and/or installed |
| 22:22.49 | wirechief | like ubuntu ? |
| 22:23.02 | DvineLord | i donno |
| 22:23.11 | DvineLord | havent run straight ubuntu |
| 22:23.17 | DvineLord | booted the xubuntu livecd though |
| 22:23.24 | DvineLord | didnt have much installed and the repos were lacking |
| 22:23.31 | wirechief | well take a look at distro watch they seem to see a lot of people heading for it. |
| 22:23.32 | DvineLord | linuxmint was nice though |
| 22:23.37 | chi11y | wizard123: sourcemage sounds like a joke, I mean, spells? Or is that something from sorcerer? Wasnt involved in linux at the time of sorcerer and such |
| 22:23.43 | chi11y | linuxmint is really nice =) |
| 22:23.48 | DvineLord | yea |
| 22:23.51 | DvineLord | i dont think ill use ubuntu |
| 22:24.02 | chi11y | use mint instead |
| 22:24.09 | wirechief | linuxmint was nice they have drifted to far |
| 22:24.09 | wizard123 | chi11y: it was derived from sorcerer linux |
| 22:24.33 | chi11y | mint is compatible with ubuntu |
| 22:24.36 | DvineLord | yea |
| 22:24.37 | wirechief | linuxmint 2.2 was cool but not what they have now. |
| 22:24.38 | mandog | mint is ubuntu |
| 22:24.42 | chi11y | wizard123: ok |
| 22:24.47 | chi11y | mandog: yeh :P |
| 22:24.50 | DvineLord | whats wrong with it now? |
| 22:25.07 | chi11y | o.O |
| 22:25.16 | wirechief | i use to be able to boot their livecd with no problem but not now |
| 22:25.19 | chi11y | I hardly notice anything different |
| 22:25.22 | DvineLord | hah |
| 22:25.25 | chi11y | :P |
| 22:25.27 | DvineLord | yea there livecd was a little slow |
| 22:25.31 | wirechief | i can boot others |
| 22:25.36 | chi11y | heh yup |
| 22:25.44 | mandog | its ok but people have alot of probs on laptops |
| 22:25.48 | wizard123 | i think that shitload of distros is just a joke |
| 22:25.55 | wirechief | i think they are using freespires livecd |
| 22:26.07 | chi11y | any1 else here that hates the buntu installer? |
| 22:26.25 | wizard123 | somebody does not like for example some feature in debain installer, and, instead of joining the project and changing that feature, creates debian fork |
| 22:26.25 | chi11y | wirecheif: why would they? arnt they using ubuntus? |
| 22:26.35 | wirechief | linux mint |
| 22:26.38 | mandog | use the alterative |
| 22:26.41 | wirechief | is so slow |
| 22:26.48 | DvineLord | i think people should make custom installers |
| 22:26.54 | DvineLord | not a seperate distro |
| 22:26.55 | chi11y | not when installed |
| 22:27.04 | wirechief | i can get ubuntu to install fine but not linux mint |
| 22:27.13 | chi11y | o/O |
| 22:27.16 | wirechief | except the version 2.2 of linux mint |
| 22:27.20 | wizard123 | gentoo installer is the best :) |
| 22:27.20 | chi11y | they are basicly the same |
| 22:27.25 | chi11y | loool |
| 22:27.26 | DvineLord | have u turned off silent and quiet |
| 22:27.30 | DvineLord | to see what happens? |
| 22:27.43 | mandog | linux mint is fine but its not stable |
| 22:27.45 | DvineLord | i was having issues with livecds cause i had both the vga and dvi cable plugged up |
| 22:27.49 | DvineLord | caused major issues |
| 22:27.49 | chi11y | wizard123: http://bash.org/?464385 ;) |
| 22:27.51 | wirechief | its been a month since i even looked |
| 22:27.57 | DvineLord | unplugged one and it worked sooo mcuh better |
| 22:28.53 | wirechief | i think a lot depends on just what it is you are looking for in a distro, they are all different. |
| 22:29.02 | wirechief | i want pretty and fast |
| 22:29.05 | DvineLord | http://isteve.bofh.cz/~isteve/olive/ |
| 22:29.09 | wizard123 | chi11y: oh my fucking god! |
| 22:29.10 | DvineLord | im lookin for those utils |
| 22:29.21 | mandog | the debian instaler is very good so is the suse |
| 22:29.21 | DvineLord | but with all the stuff already installed to compile or run other apps |
| 22:29.24 | DvineLord | when needed |
| 22:29.28 | chi11y | I want bleeding edge that is easy to fuck up :P |
| 22:29.43 | wirechief | chilly try sidux |
| 22:29.44 | DvineLord | linuxmint installs all those utils |
| 22:30.18 | wirechief | you wont find bleeding edge in debian etch |
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| 22:30.30 | wirechief | you will find it in debian sid |
| 22:30.39 | mandog | you wont get more bleeding edge than sidux |
| 22:30.52 | wirechief | best take some bandages along lol |
| 22:30.55 | mandog | but its kde |
| 22:31.03 | DvineLord | i want xfce |
| 22:31.04 | DvineLord | =) |
| 22:32.01 | wizard123 | than, compile it, or whatever |
| 22:32.07 | wizard123 | i'm gonna try etoile |
| 22:32.18 | DvineLord | but xfce isnt very out of the box |
| 22:32.28 | DvineLord | its default themes are very lacking |
| 22:32.53 | wizard123 | and if i'd like it, i'm gonna offer them help with livecd :) |
| 22:33.27 | wirechief | well am outta here bye for now have fun. |
| 22:33.28 | wirechief | well am outta here bye for now have fun. |
| 22:34.15 | chi11y | "you wont get more bleeding edge than sidux": Rawhide! :D |
| 22:34.42 | wizard123 | chi11y: of course you would, lfs with cvs/svn sources :D |
| 22:34.51 | chi11y | xd |
| 22:35.12 | wizard123 | imagine linux taken from git repo :D |
| 22:35.14 | chi11y | but thats a pain in the ass to update :P |
| 22:35.19 | chi11y | xD |
| 22:35.34 | wizard123 | linux is getting worse and worse since 2.6.18 times.. |
| 22:35.42 | chi11y | heh |
| 22:36.22 | wizard123 | actually since 2.6.0 times :P |
| 22:36.46 | wizard123 | than imagine linux from cvs ;) |
| 22:36.52 | wizard123 | than, gnu from cvs.. |
| 22:37.06 | wizard123 | than, cvs xorg and cvs e17 |
| 22:37.20 | chi11y | lol |
| 22:37.20 | wizard123 | and the game begins: which will break first :D |
| 22:37.30 | chi11y | hahaha |
| 22:37.40 | chi11y | it would be a short game |
| 22:37.41 | chi11y | :P |
| 22:38.41 | wizard123 | a friend of mine tired |
| 22:38.49 | chi11y | :o |
| 22:39.00 | wizard123 | tree weeks of patching glibc and rewriting code by himself |
| 22:39.07 | chi11y | >.< |
| 22:39.19 | chi11y | maybe not something for me :P |
| 22:39.32 | wizard123 | i only tried kde4 svn, month before first alpha |
| 22:39.39 | chi11y | ok :P |
| 22:39.50 | wizard123 | that rocked, i had to change code in few places ;) |
| 22:39.54 | chi11y | what is it that is som new with kde4? |
| 22:39.59 | chi11y | :P |
| 22:40.06 | wizard123 | because otherwise it wouldn't compile |
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| 22:40.11 | chi11y | >.< |
| 22:40.13 | wizard123 | i've seen only pre alpha |
| 22:40.19 | chi11y | ok |
| 22:41.29 | wizard123 | so it was mostly kde3 partially rewriten to use qt4 |
| 22:41.54 | wizard123 | they didn't even rewrote kcontrol at the time, so it didn't even work :] |
| 22:42.34 | chi11y | ok :P |
| 22:42.54 | wizard123 | but now it may work.. even.. |
| 22:42.58 | wizard123 | i have to try |
| 22:44.15 | chi11y | :P |
| 22:44.56 | chi11y | Fedora 8 will be the first distro to include KDE4... a little funny when you think about that Fedora is gnome-based :P |
| 22:45.13 | wizard123 | what does 'gnome-based' mean ? |
| 22:45.18 | wizard123 | it's a hype :/ |
| 22:47.18 | wizard123 | i hate that 'distro dividing' that is that, that is for servers, that is for notebooks, that is stable, that is slow, something works under one and does not work on another |
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| 22:47.37 | wizard123 | that's all bunch of myths |
| 22:47.57 | NicNac | ya linux is linux which ever way you look at it |
| 22:48.18 | wizard123 | that's what i wanted to say |
| 22:48.34 | Mutacion | washu washu washu.. |
| 22:48.48 | wizard123 | you can even use uClibc and busybox |
| 22:48.55 | wizard123 | and it will still be linux |
| 22:49.04 | chi11y | gnome-based is, that it comes with gnome preconfigured |
| 22:49.17 | chi11y | in the same way that suse is kdebased |
| 22:49.27 | chi11y | and Elive e17-based ;) |
| 22:49.36 | wizard123 | gnome comes preconfigured by itself :/ |
| 22:49.54 | chi11y | ? o/O |
| 22:50.18 | wizard123 | for example, you download tarballs from gnome.org, compile, and it's preconfigured |
| 22:50.25 | chi11y | doh. |
| 22:50.54 | chi11y | I mean like, when you install fedora, by default you get Gnome |
| 22:51.02 | chi11y | as DE |
| 22:51.10 | wizard123 | and what if i won't install gnome at all ? |
| 22:51.14 | wizard123 | i won't get it |
| 22:51.25 | wizard123 | and there is such possibility |
| 22:51.35 | chi11y | then you SELECT to not use gnome ;) |
| 22:51.44 | chi11y | but default is gnome |
| 22:51.49 | chi11y | thereby it is gnomebased |
| 22:52.03 | chi11y | just like Elive is enlightenment-based |
| 22:52.05 | wizard123 | ayy... |
| 22:52.08 | chi11y | you can install gnome |
| 22:52.26 | chi11y | but enlightenment is what it is "made" for ;) |
| 22:53.19 | wizard123 | i thought it is made for users :/ |
| 22:53.44 | chi11y | doh. |
| 22:54.24 | chi11y | Elive is configured to work nice with enlightenment, huh? |
| 22:54.34 | chi11y | then it is "made" for enlightenment |
| 22:55.30 | DvineLord | i thought Thanatermesis started enlightenment |
| 22:55.57 | chi11y | I'm not sure, maybe he did :P |
| 22:56.14 | chi11y | but still, enlightenment isnt the same thing as elive |
| 22:57.02 | chi11y | well, I'm going to t3h TV now ;) |
| 22:57.04 | chi11y | cya all |
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| 23:01.17 | wizard123 | enlghtenment was stared by few guys from mandrake, about 9 years ago |
| 23:03.45 | Mutacion | che argentiino xD |
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| 23:20.37 | licensedorchid | hi apt |
| 23:20.39 | licensedorchid | hi keyra |
| 23:20.53 | keyra | licensedorchid: hi :) |
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| 23:22.44 | Nesster | Hi all. |
| 23:22.50 | licensedorchid | So who wants to help me with something? |
| 23:24.25 | Nesster | I have some power management problem. I'm on a tohiba M30, nvidia 5200 video card, with nvidia-glx driver. If I let the computer go into shutting down the screen, it never comes back. I have to CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE |
| 23:24.39 | keyra | Nesster: don't ask to ask, ask your problem |
| 23:24.56 | Nesster | hehe thanks keyra bot :D |
| 23:25.10 | keyra | Nesster: welcome :) |
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| 23:41.25 | Nesster | someone knows how to control acpi so it doesn't shut down the screen ? |
| 23:42.22 | wizard123 | Nesster: i had the same problem |
| 23:42.35 | wizard123 | and i didn't solve it, acpi sucks |
| 23:44.00 | Nesster | aight thanks |
| 23:44.02 | DvineLord | im filling out an application |
| 23:44.16 | DvineLord | would u put personal computer support and networking technologies under computer science |
| 23:44.17 | DvineLord | ? |
| 23:52.11 | NicNac | well im off too bed |
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