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00:26.04elmo40yawlright: tard, eh?
00:27.29elmo40roxville: how large are these themes?
00:28.13yawlrighterrrm well just not quick with keyboards
00:28.45elmo40no biggie
00:29.22roxvillethe e17 theme is like,... just over 2MB
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00:29.36elmo40then you can put it on a public file posting site
00:29.41elmo40just cant remember the name, at the moment ;)
00:29.52roxvillethe bag is not bug at all, and the gtk and elpanel themes... a total of under 5MB, i think
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00:51.29roxville<roxville> the bag is not bug at all,... LOOOL
00:51.43elmo40i still understood :-P
00:55.24yawlrighthehe
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01:06.34roxvilletime to put daughter to bed, bbiab
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01:50.01the_poet677Hey folks.
01:50.33the_poet677apt hello
01:50.35aptHowdy Bub
01:50.40keyrathe_poet677: hi
01:51.00roxvillehi the_poet677
01:51.02the_poet677gotta say hello to apt. :D
01:51.20the_poet677So whats new in the elive world?
01:52.43roxvillenot much dude...not much at all right now
01:54.11the_poet677I figured as much. I just fired up inkscape. Going to design myself a business card.
01:54.20the_poet677I figure that should pass the time.
01:54.49roxville:)
01:55.22the_poet677oooh. Looks like inkscape comes with an eap.
01:55.41the_poet677I am still working out the way they work in my mind.
01:56.08roxvillethana made some eaps for apps that ppl usually install
01:56.14the_poet677Nice.
01:56.23roxvillevery :)
01:56.32roxvillethat's our thana! :D
01:56.53the_poet677They just never seem to build when I run the eap editor
01:58.07the_poet677I must be stupid. I somehow managed to miss that this build came with Xara preinstalled.
01:58.51roxvilleit did?
01:59.45the_poet677I already have an EAP for it
02:01.17roxvillebut does it load
02:01.20roxville?
02:01.44roxvillelike i said... thana made eaps so ppl wouldn't have to make eaps the first thing they did...
02:02.38the_poet677Hmmm.
02:03.18the_poet677Nope.
02:03.20the_poet677:D
02:03.42roxvilleand the eaps show up in entangle... even if the app is not installed
02:05.25the_poet677I don't know if I have asked this before, but have either of you used Songbird?
02:10.20roxvilledon't believe i have... what is it?
02:11.37the_poet677it is a media player built off of... firefox libraries. uses XULstreamer
02:12.48roxvillehm
02:13.03the_poet677it works really well.
02:13.48roxvillecool!
02:13.54roxvillelooks great!
02:14.17the_poet677it is vs 0.2.0, but i really do like it
02:15.37the_poet677one of the best things about my job is that I get to evaluate alot of software. I foudn this about two weeks ago, and haven't used anything else since.
02:18.40odlathe_poet677: it's not run linux is it?
02:19.04the_poet677yeah, it is
02:19.43the_poet677i try not to push windows software, unless I really like it, like dameware
02:21.25roxvillegood call :)
02:21.57roxville"guys have you checked out ms office 2006 yet? it is aaawwwweeesome!!"
02:22.07roxville:)
02:22.37roxvilledameware? to pick up girls with?
02:22.44the_poet677:D
02:23.09the_poet677Dameware= the best domain control software I have found in 8 years of looking.
02:23.24the_poet677I haven't tried the new office yet.
02:23.26roxvilleahh
02:23.36odlahe he
02:23.39roxvillei'ws just kidding about office
02:23.41odlanice english i had there earlier
02:23.52the_poet677Yeah. I liked it.
02:23.58roxvillehehe
02:24.01the_poet677the enlgish.
02:24.11odlaso does that mean it is available for linux too?
02:24.18roxvilleyes
02:24.23odlaok :)
02:24.42roxvilleyou have to build it, though
02:24.48roxvilleno debs
02:24.52the_poet677Yeah. and you can use the Synaptic package manager to install the glstreamer-plugins-all package.
02:24.54the_poet677No.
02:25.06odlabuilding from source ain't so bad
02:25.20the_poet677You download the tarball. and run the executable
02:25.25the_poet677No building from source.
02:25.41odlaoh a binary
02:26.02the_poet677I extracted songbird.tar.gz to ~/Songbird, and ran the bin.
02:26.08the_poet677It runs just fine.
02:26.34the_poet677Just know that it uses the gstreamer lib to decode compressed audio.
02:31.32yawlrighthmmmm segmentation fault trying to play tourus trooper
02:33.32the_poet677never heard of it
02:35.51yawlright:/
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02:38.53the_poet677<PROTECTED>
02:39.42Elive_user7is anyone really good with elive and the installing?
02:40.26the_poet677Whats up?
02:40.33Elive_user7hhey
02:40.38Elive_user7well i think i screwed my computer
02:40.40Elive_user7haha
02:40.44the_poet677nice.
02:40.47the_poet677How is that?
02:40.53Elive_user7i tried to install elive on my external hardrive
02:40.57the_poet677ok.
02:41.04the_poet677USB
02:41.06Elive_user7and now i try to boot from it and it says their is an error
02:41.08Elive_user7yes usb
02:41.15the_poet677can you still boot to windows?
02:41.21Elive_user7no
02:41.24Elive_user7it won't allow me too
02:41.32the_poet677what do you mean?
02:41.34Elive_user7it says an error with operating system
02:41.41Elive_user7when it ry to load windows
02:41.49the_poet677Ok, one sec.
02:41.55Elive_user7ok
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02:42.52the_poet677Do you remember where you installed your bootloader?
02:43.10Elive_user7yeh on sdb1
02:43.22Elive_user7i think
02:43.22Elive_user7it was called
02:43.22Elive_user7but i installed it twice
02:43.27Elive_user7once on another partition
02:43.35the_poet677do you knwo which partition?
02:43.37Elive_user7and another time on the sdb1 which i though was my external
02:43.41Elive_user7hard drive
02:43.53Elive_user7yeh it was hda3
02:43.58the_poet677ok.
02:44.08the_poet677So sdb1 is your usb drive.
02:44.23Elive_user7yeh
02:44.25the_poet677can you find your grub.conf file and post it here. It should be in /boot
02:44.46Elive_user7i can try im new with linux though
02:44.50Elive_user7so im not the greatest
02:45.05the_poet677That is fine.
02:45.17the_poet677You will need to open up a terminal, and then su to root
02:45.44Elive_user7how do i do that
02:45.48the_poet677type su
02:45.50Elive_user7like what do i type in terminal
02:45.56Elive_user7ok
02:46.15the_poet677it will ask for the root password, and once you have entered it, you will have a # prompt.
02:46.46Elive_user7yeh i see the # prompt
02:46.49the_poet677ok.
02:46.53the_poet677cd /boot
02:46.58the_poet677then type ls
02:47.11Elive_user7ok
02:47.16the_poet677do you see a grub.conf?
02:47.21Elive_user7no
02:47.26the_poet677cd grub
02:47.34odlacd /boot/grub/
02:48.01Elive_user7it says
02:48.05Elive_user7no such file or directory
02:48.17Elive_user7(right now im booting from live cd)
02:48.27the_poet677hmm
02:48.35the_poet677type mount
02:48.41the_poet677and post what you have in it here.
02:49.03the_poet677if you highlight the test and right click in the terminal, it will copy.
02:49.09the_poet677You can then paste it in here.
02:49.15the_poet677text...
02:49.25the_poet677I mean middle click...
02:49.36the_poet677If you have a two button mouse, click both at once.
02:49.53Elive_user7and to paste?
02:50.02the_poet677right click, paste
02:50.37Elive_user7hmm
02:50.42Elive_user7it won't let me copy
02:50.44the_poet677root@evobar[/boot/grub]# ls
02:50.45the_poet677default        fat_stage1_5  minix_stage1_5     stage2
02:50.45the_poet677device.map     jfs_stage1_5  reiserfs_stage1_5  xfs_stage1_5
02:50.45the_poet677e2fs_stage1_5  menu.lst      stage1
02:50.59the_poet677try clicking and dragging it into this text box.
02:51.47the_poet677then left clicking. It is what I just had to do on my laptop...
02:51.57Elive_user7shit im sorry
02:51.59Elive_user7i suck at this
02:52.00Elive_user7man
02:52.08the_poet677That is fine. We will get through this.
02:52.26Elive_user7ok highlight the text
02:52.28the_poet677Although I might charge you for the smokes I go through. :D
02:52.33Elive_user7hahaha
02:52.42Elive_user7highlight the text
02:52.43Elive_user7then
02:52.55the_poet677two button mouse, right?
02:52.58Elive_user7yeh
02:53.32the_poet677click both buttons. While you are holding them down, move them into the box you type into here, and the let go of them. the left click
02:54.16Elive_user7ok im going to type
02:54.17Elive_user7it
02:54.18the_poet677Or, just type it out...
02:54.31Elive_user7proc on /proc type pro (rw)
02:54.42Elive_user7sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
02:55.37the_poet677I figured it out. both-click, grag, and both click one last time.
02:56.00the_poet677root@evobar[/boot/grub]# ls
02:56.00the_poet677default        fat_stage1_5  minix_stage1_5     stage2
02:56.00the_poet677device.map     jfs_stage1_5  reiserfs_stage1_5  xfs_stage1_5
02:56.00the_poet677e2fs_stage1_5  menu.lst      stage1
02:56.00the_poet677root@evobar[/boot/grub]#
02:57.03Elive_user7fuck this
02:57.10Elive_user7haha
02:57.13the_poet677:)
02:57.14Elive_user7man i can't get it over
02:57.31the_poet677I have to use both hands on my laptop, but it works.
02:57.49Elive_user7ok i have a 3 button mouse
02:57.52the_poet677ok
02:57.56the_poet677the middle button.
02:58.12the_poet677click. drag, click in the typy box.
02:59.08Elive_user7it won't let me
02:59.14the_poet677ok. Just type it out then.
02:59.23the_poet677i have the top two lines already
03:00.17Elive_user7it keeps going to free node
03:00.17Elive_user7when i type it
03:01.10Elive_user7hey do you have msn?
03:01.14Elive_user7that would work easier
03:02.16the_poet677Yeah. But so help me god, if I end up on a spam list... :D
03:02.21the_poet677the_poet677@hotmail.com
03:02.29the_poet677toughy, huh?
03:02.36Elive_user7hahaah
03:02.37Elive_user7i won't
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03:06.17the_poet677welcome back
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03:06.24keyrathe_poet677: why anybody say 'welcome back keyra' ? :(
03:06.38the_poet677I didn't see you leave! :)
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03:07.30the_poet677and looking back through the session since I logged on, neither did my conmputer.
03:08.11roxvillethanx... i keep timing out
03:09.27roxvillekeyra, welcome back :)
03:09.34keyraroxville: why anybody say 'welcome back keyra' ? :(
03:10.10odlakeyra: where's debby?
03:10.18keyraodla: try http://google.com/linux
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03:10.29odlaor #debian-bots
03:10.31roxvilleok...
03:10.36keyraodla: Debian r00lz !
03:10.40roxvillewelcome back keyra
03:10.47keyraroxville: :D
03:10.47odlaubuntu
03:10.54keyraodla: Ubuntu is OFF topic
03:11.01roxville:D
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03:24.51the_poet677I use gentoo on all of my servers...
03:25.34the_poet677apt elive
03:25.46aptmethinks elive is a livecd (installable) project and a perfectly distro based in debian and have only the enlightenment WM for managing all the system, utilities, libs, instalation, programation in EFL... the best distro in the world for this moments :)
03:25.54keyraapt: Debian r00lz !
03:25.57Elive_user7hey poet it says the one drive is locked
03:26.02Elive_user7and won't let me do anything
03:26.14the_poet677hmm. locked, huh.
03:26.21the_poet677What do you have open right now?
03:26.40Elive_user7terminal msn
03:27.00the_poet677close terminal, try again.
03:27.00Elive_user7the filesystem
03:27.04Elive_user7is a linux swap
03:27.11the_poet677?
03:27.23the_poet677which filesystem?
03:27.48Elive_user7on 1 of my 3 hardries
03:27.53Elive_user7well 3 partions
03:27.56Elive_user7of 1 hardrive
03:28.30the_poet677you have one harddrive, with three partitions, or three hardrives?
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03:28.51Elive_user7one hardrive with 3 partitions
03:28.52elmo40swap IS locked... you can not write to it yourself.
03:29.06the_poet677he tried to run the installer.
03:29.07elmo40Linux uses it
03:30.02Elive_user7im in gparted right now
03:30.16the_poet677can you list your partitions for me?
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03:30.20Elive_user7yeh
03:30.24mutacionyeah
03:30.30mutacionyeah yeah
03:30.32mutacionyeah yeah yeah
03:30.32Elive_user7hda1 - NTFS (where my windows are)
03:30.40keyraElive_user7: Elive don't like windows, don't use it, is compatible with all, and only give problems
03:30.47Elive_user7hda2- LInux Swap
03:30.52mutacionqiubole keyra
03:31.01mutacionese Elive_user27
03:31.05Elive_user7Hda3 - NTFS (empty)
03:31.28Elive_user7thats all that shows up in Gparted
03:31.34the_poet677and you put elive on its own harddrive, sda1
03:31.40mutacionese the_poet677
03:31.46Elive_user7yeh i believe so
03:31.51Elive_user7and it doesn't show up
03:31.51the_poet677ok.
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03:31.55the_poet677it wont
03:31.58Elive_user7ok
03:32.07the_poet677do you have it plugged in right now?
03:32.10Elive_user7yes
03:32.27roxvilleElive_user27,  on the right in Gparted is an arrow button
03:32.36Mutacionqe oonda rox!!
03:32.43roxvilleeach hard drive has it own "window"
03:32.54roxvillehi Mutacion :)
03:32.57Elive_user7ok
03:33.00Elive_user7thanks
03:33.00Mutacionwell i think i heard apt saying something..
03:33.04Elive_user7ok so its actually
03:33.06Mutacionapt time-to
03:33.07aptextra, extra, read all about it, time-to is its HAMBRITA TIME!!!
03:33.11Elive_user7sdb1
03:33.14Mutacion:)
03:33.20the_poet677and what have you got in there?
03:33.33roxvilleit would be, if hda is listed as master
03:33.40Elive_user7and its a reiserfs
03:33.49roxvillesounds great!
03:33.51Elive_user7i donno
03:33.59Elive_user7i think the linux i tryed to install
03:34.05the_poet677right
03:34.07roxvillehehe
03:34.18the_poet677ok.
03:34.25the_poet677so where do we sit right now...
03:34.34the_poet677it wont let you do a reinstall?
03:34.40the_poet677go ahead and reboot.
03:34.43Elive_user7well i can try now i guess
03:34.55Elive_user7well i don't think it installed right so
03:34.58Elive_user7should i reformat
03:34.59elmo40did he install a boot loader??
03:35.00Elive_user7sdb1
03:35.03Elive_user7and
03:35.07Elive_user7install again
03:35.47the_poet677what you should do is install elive on your empty ntfs partition, and mount /home to the sdb1
03:35.54keyrathe_poet677: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format
03:36.00elmo40so you have an IDE drive (hda) and a sata drive (sdb) ? and you want eLive the sata? Should be simple enough... but poot grub on the MBR of the hda!!
03:36.04Elive_user7well i wanted to load it on sdb1
03:36.11Elive_user7so i could take my external to school
03:36.15Elive_user7and run it on there
03:36.18the_poet677sdb1 is usb
03:36.39Elive_user7yeh
03:37.17the_poet677Hey elmo, when you install grub to the mbr, where does it put the grub.conf
03:37.30elmo40oh, so not sata ;) Removable... the only issue i see is booting. will you use the liveCD's grub to boot to the removable drive??
03:37.52elmo40/boot/grub/
03:37.56elmo40usually
03:38.07Elive_user7well i didn't want to have to use the live cd to run it
03:38.15Elive_user7its kinda of a pain
03:38.15the_poet677I dont have it there. neither does user7
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03:38.17elmo40not to run it, just to boot from
03:38.23elmo40or make a boot diskette
03:38.34elmo40OR...
03:38.36LinuxNITthe_poet677, you have a menu.lst i bet
03:38.47LinuxNITthis is what grub looks for when the pc boots up
03:39.09elmo40change the order in the BIOS as to how the computer boots!! Make it go CD>USB>IDE then it will (should) load the removable drive
03:39.36Elive_user7ok
03:39.46Elive_user7how do i install it on my external hardrive?
03:39.52elmo40yes, menu.lst is the important file ;)
03:40.18the_poet677suse always dumped everything into grub.conf
03:40.29CaivaxWhat can have happened? Install a theme and when run CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE it didn't show image again. I restart the PC and never see image again! The e16 worked when I run startx but the e17 not start up.
03:40.36elmo40if gparted sees it, then you should just make a few partitions (one for / , one for swap, one possibly for /home)
03:40.40elmo40then run the install script
03:40.43keyraelmo40: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format
03:41.02CaivaxMy english is bad.. somebody can help me?
03:41.24LinuxNITCaivax, did you get the theme from get-e.org?
03:41.38CaivaxLinuxNIT, yes
03:41.40LinuxNITthe_poet677, grub.conf is used to make a menu.lst (afaik)
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03:41.51LinuxNITCaivax, are you using the default e17 that came with elive?
03:41.53elmo40Caivax: sorry. the only thing that may have happened is the config file didnt recognize the theme, or it is not stored/linked in the correct directory.
03:42.14roxville_my wife is downloading something...so i keep timing out
03:42.20LinuxNITbrbv
03:42.47LinuxNITack
03:42.48LinuxNITback
03:42.58the_poet677or, the problem I had themes, the default e17 doesn't support newish themes.
03:43.05keyrathe_poet677: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM
03:43.10elmo40roxville_: Caivax has issues with a theme install
03:43.22roxville_ok
03:43.22LinuxNITright if you get a theme from get-e.org and are using the default e17 it wont work
03:43.28CaivaxLinuxNIT, yes.. and it worked fine.. but when I changed the theme, e17 no start up.  :-(
03:43.38LinuxNITCaivax, right if you get a theme from get-e.org and are using the default e17 it wont work
03:43.52roxville_exactly
03:43.55LinuxNITthis is cause e17 underwent some major updates
03:44.01Elive_user7what file system should i make /home?
03:44.04roxville_install themes via synaptic only
03:44.20roxville_Elive_user7 reiserfs
03:44.22elmo40Elive_user7: they all should either be ext3 or reiserfs
03:44.30elmo40ok, reiserfs it is ;)
03:44.36Elive_user7ok
03:44.37Elive_user7hahaah
03:44.37Elive_user7rad
03:44.49Elive_user7im going to use the external as my home
03:44.57Elive_user7and then use my free partition as the boot
03:45.00the_poet677reiserfs is made and optimized for smallfiles. I use it in proxies alot.
03:45.29Elive_user7how do i change my bios so it can boot off of the partition with the linux
03:46.14elmo40Elive_user7: i dont think you thought this through!
03:46.24elmo40what are you using your removable for??
03:46.33Elive_user7hahaha
03:47.02LinuxNITCaivax, did you place the new theme in .e/e/themes?
03:47.15Elive_user7well i wanted to be able to load linux off my external
03:47.25Elive_user7so that i could run it at school
03:47.30Elive_user7and on anyones computer
03:47.33Elive_user7just by plugging it in
03:47.44elmo40no system apps will be there
03:48.14elmo40<PROTECTED>
03:48.22Elive_user7yeh
03:48.51Elive_user7so is there a way i can have all my linux on my external
03:49.08CaivaxThen what I should do if e17 doesn't run?
03:49.13LinuxNITCaivax, did you place the new theme in .e/e/themes?
03:49.48elmo40Elive_user7: yes. what i said earlier... make 3 partitions on it.
03:49.59elmo40if gparted sees it, then you should just make a few partitions (one for / , one for swap, one possibly for /home)
03:50.07keyraelmo40: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format
03:50.28LinuxNITlol keyra
03:50.31Elive_user7it won't let me make a new partition on it
03:50.56elmo40then wipe it... delete everything and reformat it
03:51.05Elive_user7it has nothing on it
03:51.08roxvilleyou have to unmount it first
03:51.09Elive_user7and its in NTFS format
03:51.28LinuxNITCaivax, i suggest that you copy a theme from /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes and replace the bad one with it
03:52.46Elive_user7it is unmounted
03:52.47LinuxNITyou can set the theme with enligtenment_remote... but im not sure what the syntax is for it
03:53.30CaivaxLinuxNIT, No.. I don't remember where I put it. I believe that it was in /usr/share/..  I don't remember more.
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03:53.59LinuxNITCaivax, it should be in either /usr/share/enlightenment/data/themes or ~/.e/e/themes
03:54.43roxvilleis he in e16 now?
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03:57.30elmo40did he leave?
03:57.37elmo40Elive_user7 you there?
03:59.04elmo40hrmm, earily quiet in here!
03:59.12the_poet677he kicked out.
03:59.35elmo40i have quits/parts on ignore ;) so i didt see him leave
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04:00.10Elive_user63ok
04:00.13Elive_user63i screwed up
04:00.15Elive_user63its me again
04:00.17Elive_user63hahaa
04:00.17elmo40hey
04:00.52Elive_user63it won't let me boot windows i know you all hate me but i just wanted to keep it around to do somet things
04:01.16elmo40listen, i believe you need to do this... open Parted, delete the partition that is on there right now, and COMMIT. then make a new partition (reiserfs) and COMMIT
04:01.34Elive_user63you mean commit
04:01.37Elive_user63to Linux
04:01.51elmo40then two more partitions (one swap, another reiserfs
04:01.53elmo40)
04:02.01Elive_user63ok
04:02.02CaivaxI I installed a theme using synaptic. but I could not use them because I didn't find the theme in Elpanel. How I can use a theme installed by synaptic?
04:02.04Elive_user63lead me throught his
04:02.27Elive_user63ok reformat my three partitions to be?
04:02.31LinuxNITelpanel did not see the theme?
04:02.42CaivaxLinuxNIT, no.
04:03.09LinuxNITshow me the files listed in /usr/share/enlightenment/data/thems
04:03.16LinuxNITwhat theme did you install
04:08.22elmo40more death... people are dropping like flies!
04:08.32Elive_user63should i use my external as /home?
04:09.17elmo40Elive_user63: if you want to BOOT from your external, you need to install the entire eLive onto it!
04:09.22elmo40not only the /home!!
04:09.30Elive_user63yeh its ok
04:09.43CaivaxLinuxNIT, I was didn't able to run e17 again... I installed elive again. :S.. now the system is well. do, I don't want to do the error again.
04:09.44Elive_user63i installed the boot partition on my internal hardrive
04:09.57LinuxNITCaivax, :o
04:10.10LinuxNITCaivax, well only install e17 themes from synaptic
04:10.17keyraLinuxNIT: "apt-cache search e17 theme" and "apt-get install packagename" for package it
04:10.33CaivaxThe theme were Simply-White
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04:13.39Elive_user63how long does it take to install
04:13.51Elive_user63it must be working but its not really doing anything
04:14.16elmo40Elive_user63: how do you plan on booting it from a remote computer if you installed the boot loader on the internal drive? I am confused...
04:14.31elmo40USB is slower... so it will take some time
04:14.31Elive_user63no its ok i don't plan
04:14.40Elive_user63to go to a remote computer
04:14.43CaivaxLinuxNIT, Another thing, my system in occasions is blocked.. so, I restart the PC. It will be because e17 this in development. or should I look if my PC has some problem?
04:14.44Elive_user63ill boot it of from home
04:14.50keyraCaivax: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM
04:15.03Elive_user63and run from cd and use my external as home on remote computers
04:15.09LinuxNITCaivax, what do you mean by blocked... what does it do
04:17.24elmo40Elive_user63: enjoy!
04:17.28CaivaxLinuxNIT, The keyboard and the mouse don't work, neither the virtual consoles... (CTRL+ALT+F2).
04:17.30elmo40i am outta here...
04:17.35Elive_user63ha
04:17.36Elive_user63ok
04:17.41Elive_user63thnks
04:17.45elmo40no prob
04:17.46Elive_user63ha
04:18.07LinuxNITCaivax, do you know what happens that causes this?
04:19.18Elive_user63does the red light and flashing green on the elive installer mean its installing?
04:20.22odlaElive_user63: did you click the installer and tell it to install?
04:20.30CaivaxLinuxNIT, No. I run a dmesg after restarting and I don't see anything. I was thinking if the problem is because e17 is in development or because I have little memory RAM (256M).
04:20.36Elive_user63yeh
04:20.37keyraCaivax: don't ask to ask, ask your problem
04:20.52LinuxNITkeyra, shutup
04:20.55odlaElive_user63: and did the installer GUI pop up?
04:21.00keyraLinuxNIT: :-#
04:21.06Elive_user63yeh
04:21.23Elive_user63but theres no installer bar
04:21.28Elive_user63that came up after
04:21.32Elive_user63is that unusual
04:21.34LinuxNITCaivax, check the system logs
04:21.58odlawell there's an installer progress bar after you've  set up your partitions
04:22.10Elive_user63it hasn't shown up yet
04:22.40roxvilleso you are trying to install elive on a USB drive?
04:23.03Elive_user63no
04:23.15Elive_user63im using th sub as a my home
04:23.27roxvilleok
04:23.33CaivaxLinuxNIT, Ok. another thing... when I install elive. is it better to do an "apt-get upgrade" or an "apt-get dist-upgrade"?
04:23.35roxville*whew*
04:23.52roxvilleCaivax,  always dist-upgrade
04:23.59LinuxNITCaivax, yes but upgrade first
04:24.13roxvillelol
04:24.35roxvilleso i'll just shut the hell up
04:24.48LinuxNITive been told that upgrade then dist-upgrade  prevents problems
04:24.57LinuxNITtrue or not i dont know :)
04:25.36Elive_user63why hasn't the installer bar shown up yet?
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04:27.44CaivaxLinuxNIT, Should I do something in the /etc/apt/sources.list file? I need modify the option etch or testing?
04:28.06LinuxNITelive uses debian etch/testing by default
04:28.14keyraLinuxNIT: Debian r00lz !
04:29.48CaivaxLinuxNIT, Don't I need to change it for testing to unstable when I run an apt-get dist-upgrade?
04:30.28LinuxNITif you want to use unstable then youll have to change it yes... for testing the sources.list is already configured for that
04:34.35CaivaxLinuxNIT, but when I run an "apt-get dist-upgrade" elive will use unstable by default?
04:34.54LinuxNITCaivax, no elive is set to testing/etch by default
04:36.57odlaCaivax: apt-get dist-upgrade is used when you have to bring in additional dependencies or remove a package while upgrading a package...apt-get upgrade is just a standard upgrade.  dist-upgrade doesn't mean you're upgrading your distribution to unstable
04:38.15roxvilleit doesn't even mean you add distoryion to it
04:38.24CaivaxAh ok.. odla, I understand now.
04:38.51CaivaxLinuxNIT, thanx.
04:38.56odladistoryion?  are you drinking?
04:38.59LinuxNITyoure welcome
04:39.06LinuxNITodla, roxville is always drinking
04:39.11odlahe he
04:39.24roxvilleit was a typo!
04:39.34roxvillei am not drinking ...tonight
04:39.35odlawhat was it suppose to be?
04:40.00roxvillei was gonna buy a big bottle of jim beam at costco today, but... i didn't
04:40.04LinuxNITriiiight roxville
04:40.08roxvilleso nothing alchohol at home
04:40.12LinuxNITriiiight roxville
04:40.15roxvillehehe
04:48.03roxvilleok, i'm braindead...
04:48.12roxvilletime for some Zzzz's
04:48.16roxvillenighters
04:48.58LinuxNITnight
04:52.54Mutacionayo0 LinuxNIT
04:53.02LinuxNIThowdy
04:53.08Mutacion:)
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09:34.15mike-any way of saving home petition on reinstall/
09:34.17mike-?
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10:24.00Heart|mike-: tar it, save on another partition/usb stick/dvd, reinstall, untar it (and check owner/group)
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10:24.28Gremhi
10:50.43mike-cheers Heart|
10:51.22Heart|petition... youe meant partition!?
10:51.58mike-partition,,sorry,,yes
10:52.16Heart|when you allready have you home on an extra partition it should anyway be no problem
10:52.23mike-i can save it in debian no prob
10:52.23keyraHeart|: if you want to use the /home of another system, make a look to http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/es/blog/emamarro/hd_install_preventing_home_format
10:52.30keyramike-: Debian r00lz !
10:52.53mike-yes run etch/4.0 on my server
10:53.02mike-rock solid
10:53.41mike-I crashed elive with some sid repos (*_*) hehe
10:54.18mike-I can run the correct Nvidia drivers live but not installed
10:54.32Heart|keyra: url doesn't work
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12:44.01dererk[work]Buenos días :)
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12:50.05Gremhey dererk[work] :)
12:50.49dererk[work]:)
12:50.53dererk[work]Whassup?
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13:10.58Gremoh sry, was away
13:11.12Gremnothing fancy... @work, getting ready for lunch ;)
13:11.19Gremwhat about you?
13:14.10dererk[work]just the same
13:14.17Grem:)
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13:19.38bentejuymorning/afternoon all!
13:19.40elmo40Grem: ready for lunch? You in UK ?
13:20.05elmo400815 here ;)
13:24.22Gremhehe
13:24.29GremPortugal
13:24.36GremGMT as well
13:25.01Gremhi bentejuy
13:25.08GremI'm out for lunch :) later fellas
13:25.35bentejuyhi Grem!
13:25.44Grem=)
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13:33.02MrSandmanhi all
13:33.03MrSandman:D
13:33.10MrSandmanim new user of elive distro
13:33.17MrSandmani hace one question
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13:33.49MrSandmanis posible to add one more icon to main desktop bar?
13:34.24MrSandmanim from spain
13:34.34MrSandmanno one know if exist this feature?
13:35.16MrSandmanok, ty all
13:35.24MrSandmanwaves to all
13:35.25MrSandman:=
13:35.27MrSandman:)
13:36.32bentejuyMrSandman, si se puede, con el entangle es la forma mas habitual
13:37.18MrSandmangracias amigo
13:37.19MrSandman:)
13:37.31MrSandmanes que me pierdo con el sistema grafico de la distro
13:37.33MrSandmany no encuentro na
13:37.41MrSandmanacostumbrado a kde, ehhehe
13:37.48keyraMrSandman: kde ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
13:37.50wizard123hi all
13:38.07MrSandmankeyra, i got elive
13:38.21MrSandmanbud i always work on kde, for this reasson im a litle lost
13:38.22MrSandmanehehe
13:38.29MrSandmansorry for my poor inglish
13:38.30MrSandman:)
13:39.03MrSandmanahhh
13:39.13MrSandmanelive = debian + enlightement
13:39.20MrSandman:P
13:39.21keyraMrSandman: Debian r00lz !
13:39.25MrSandmanahhaha
13:39.35MrSandmani like slakware
13:39.40MrSandmanbud debian is funny
13:39.45MrSandman:)
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13:40.23MrSandmanim working over Kornshell
13:40.43MrSandmanlinux/unix console for as/400 (ibm)
13:41.06MrSandmannow i try to test new distros for my home computer
13:41.11wizard123i'm working on my linux distro :)
13:41.31MrSandmanyeah!! linux rocks
13:41.32MrSandman:D
13:42.19dererk[work]Debian Gnu rocks :)
13:42.26keyradererk[work]: Debian r00lz !
13:42.28MrSandmaneheh
13:42.34wizard123i don't like linux :)
13:42.41wizard123but it's very good os
13:42.53MrSandmanwizard123, are u a new linux user?
13:42.58wizard123no
13:42.59dererk[work]Debian >> Linux
13:43.10dererk[work]Debian is not only Linux :)
13:43.28wizard123it's also gnu
13:43.46dererk[work]No, I meant Debian is not only powered by Linux
13:44.06wizard123hurd, freebsd..
13:44.07dererk[work]It also supports freebsd kernel as well
13:44.07MrSandmanhaah
13:44.08dererk[work]:)
13:44.16MrSandmanfrebsd is nice distro
13:44.17dererk[work]Yeap
13:44.19MrSandmanand more eficient
13:44.31dererk[work]It has another target I think
13:44.37MrSandmanone question
13:44.49MrSandmanwhen elive go to 64bits support?
13:44.51dererk[work]I like Linux, but I do more like Debian morerover  :)
13:44.59keyradererk[work]: Debian r00lz !
13:45.03MrSandmanlol
13:45.04MrSandmanxD
13:45.09MrSandmanDebian
13:45.10MrSandmanxD
13:45.20MrSandmankeyra are u bot?
13:45.21MrSandmanehhe
13:45.22MrSandman:P
13:45.27keyraMrSandman: bot
13:45.31MrSandmanhahaha
13:45.48MrSandmannice people here
13:45.48MrSandman:)
13:45.59dererk[work]:)
13:46.14z00mbiehey MrSandman me puedes ayudar como hago para ver la red con samba
13:46.14dererk[work]Taking out wizard123, yes
13:46.15dererk[work]:P
13:46.25z00mbiedesde e17
13:46.27MrSandmanz00mbie, claro
13:46.39dererk[work]z00mbie, corre LinNeigbour
13:46.41z00mbietambien tengo debian+e17
13:46.48keyraz00mbie: Debian r00lz !
13:46.49MrSandmansomos españoles todos?
13:46.53dererk[work]LinNeighborhood *
13:47.02wizard123dererk[work]: srrrrr
13:47.05z00mbielo instalo?
13:47.06dererk[work]MrSandman, en el fondo?
13:47.07wizard123arrrr even :P
13:47.11MrSandmanhaha
13:47.18MrSandmanvaya tela ^ ^
13:47.18dererk[work]wizard123, You know I was kidding
13:47.32wizard123yup :D
13:47.32dererk[work]but not that much
13:47.32dererk[work]:PPPP
13:47.40dererk[work]kidding again :)
13:47.47wizard123:D
13:47.56dererk[work]! hug wizard123
13:48.03dererk[work]apt, hug wizard123
13:48.05aptACTION jumps into wizard123's lap and huggles and *hugs* wizard123
13:48.07dererk[work]:)
13:48.07MrSandmansi no lo tienes, si
13:48.20dererk[work]z00mbie, tu que crees :) ?
13:48.32MrSandmanhoy es mi primer dia con elive
13:48.35z00mbieje si tienes el repisitorio??
13:48.41z00mbiepasamelo
13:48.51MrSandmanhazle un apt-get update y luego un apt-get upgrade
13:49.14z00mbieok pero no tengo el repositorio
13:49.23MrSandmancual?
13:49.27MrSandmanya lleva por defecto
13:49.39MrSandmanhaz un apt-get update
13:49.45MrSandmanya veras como tienes unos cuantos
13:49.46MrSandman:)
13:49.52wizard123ahh :)
13:50.02wizard123at last i can sit and rest
13:50.20MrSandmansorry wizar , i try to talk in inglish :)
13:50.46MrSandmani say to hi ( try to make one apt-get update and one aptg-get upgrade)
13:50.54MrSandmanhe*
13:51.06MrSandmanfor update OS
13:51.08MrSandman:)
13:51.15wizard123:)
13:51.47MrSandmani make this 2 commands always when i got one new distro based in debian :)
13:51.54keyraMrSandman: Debian r00lz !
13:51.59MrSandmanhaah
13:51.59wizard123:S
13:52.14wizard123hah, i have cool book
13:52.20MrSandmanyes, coz i have newest hardware
13:52.24wizard123christine by stephen king :)
13:52.30MrSandmannice book
13:52.36MrSandmanu see the movie?
13:52.44wizard123no
13:52.59datskeyra: debian == ubuntu ?
13:53.06keyradats: Ubuntu is OFF topic
13:53.11MrSandmanxD
13:53.15datsjuasssssssssss
13:53.19dats:S
13:53.22datsfor ?
13:53.28MrSandmanubuntu esta bien para users, para experimentar
13:53.48wizard123i've never tried it
13:53.58MrSandmanUbuntu is great distro for newbe users
13:54.08datsMrSandman: i ubuntu no te da problemas de paquetes a veces como debian
13:54.15keyradats: Debian r00lz !
13:54.15MrSandmana ver
13:54.21MrSandmanubuntu es una debian capada
13:54.35dererk[work]Ubuntu sucks
13:54.39MrSandmanno te da problemas, por que solo instala paquetes 100% certificados
13:54.43dererk[work]And you know it ;-)
13:54.48dererk[work]apt, flame Ubuntu
13:54.49aptUbuntu, YOU SUCK. And you know it.
13:54.54dererk[work]Yep
13:54.55datssi .... puede, pero si no te quieres tirar el tiempo compilando puedes meter una ubuntu i te rula todo :S
13:55.18MrSandmandererk[work], Ubunto is great for newbe users
13:55.37MrSandmannot all people know Linux..
13:55.38MrSandman:P
13:55.43datsi'm using ubuntu i my laptop now ....
13:55.50keyradats: Ubuntu is OFF topic
13:55.53datsi == in
13:56.05datskeyra: well ...
13:56.09dererk[work]dats, otra vez vienes a hablar de bubuntu ?
13:56.12MrSandmandats,  try to install elive in ur laptop
13:56.23dererk[work]Aqui no nos interesa eso
13:56.38datsbut i want make a program with gtk# and c# ... and i don't find any good documentation
13:56.38MrSandmanahh
13:57.12MrSandmandats,  creo que dererk[work]  te intenta decir que la palabra ubu* es como un tipo de spam, vamos que es la competencia
13:57.15MrSandmanmejor dejamos el tema
13:57.16MrSandmanehhehe
13:57.17MrSandman:)
13:57.34datsno quiero abrir un flood ahora entre ubuntu i debian ... pero estoy buscando informacion sobre c# i gtk#
13:57.41keyradats: Debian r00lz !
13:57.43datssabeis de algun buen manual/libro
13:57.46dats¿?¿?
13:57.59MrSandmanconsulta el man
13:58.03MrSandmano mira en google
13:58.11MrSandmanhay mucha documentacion al respecto
13:58.15MrSandman:)
13:58.17datskeyra: i have 3 pc's, 2 of these 3 pc's now are using debian :P
13:58.45datsMrSandman: pero que muestre como connectar c# con gtk# ...
13:58.47MrSandmandererk[work], cuando sacareis una elive para 64bits
13:59.04datsun ejemplo de programa ejecutando otro residente en consola
13:59.17datsun programa de bash me refiero :S
13:59.22MrSandmansi
13:59.43dererk[work]MrSandman, no es a mi a quien tienes qeu preguntar
14:00.19MrSandmandererk[work], no se a quien preguntar y te veo con voz y voto en este caal, por eso te he preguntado directamente :)
14:00.38MrSandmansabes quien podria responderme a esa pregunta?
14:00.40MrSandman:)
14:01.01MrSandmandats, que quieres programar exactamente?
14:01.23MrSandmanpor que puedes utilizar mono, que es como el vbasic de microsoft, pero para linux
14:01.26MrSandmanesta muy completo
14:01.27MrSandman:)
14:02.29dererk[work]MrSandman, Thanatermesis. El es el Project Leader
14:02.47MrSandmanok, muchas gracias
14:02.49MrSandman:)
14:02.57wizard123el Project Leader :D
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14:03.38dererk[work]wizard123, what's wrong ?
14:03.43datsMrSandman: un reproductor de m´usica
14:03.51MrSandmanutiliza el mono
14:03.54dererk[work]Did I write it wrong or what ?
14:04.01MrSandmanes programacion orientada a objetos
14:04.09wizard123dererk[work]: it sound cool
14:04.12wizard123sounds
14:04.12MrSandmanesta muy completo, tiene interfaz grafica para las X
14:05.05MrSandmany es muy intuitivo, tengo un amigo que no tiene idea de programacion y me hizo un mini programita
14:05.06MrSandmaneheh
14:09.52MrSandmanbueno gente, me despido, nos vemos en otra ocasion, un saludo y gracias
14:09.53MrSandman:)
14:10.14MrSandmanbb all, thx for all, i be back :)
14:10.20wizard123bye
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14:12.15dererk[work]wizard123, Oh, ok
14:12.28wizard123http://www.campbellriversales.com/vintcar2/1957%20Plymouth%20Fury%20Sandune%20White%20Frt%20Qtr=jrk=.jpg
14:12.32wizard123Christine ;)
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17:12.13spilioholaaaa
17:12.20keyraspilio: que tal ?
17:12.37spiliokeyra,  que tal?
17:12.40spiliotu
17:13.16spilioquidam-,  a las wenas
17:13.23keyraspilio: nas nas :)
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17:14.21icedearthcan i install eclipse
17:14.28icedearthi cant find it in apt-get
17:14.32icedearthapt hello
17:14.33aptHowdy Bub
17:14.40keyraicedearth: hi
17:14.44icedearthhello
17:14.57icedearthapt en fr hello my name is Icedearth
17:14.59apticedearth: okay
17:15.09icedearthapt x en fr hello my name is Icedearth
17:15.37icedearthapt eclipse
17:15.39aptmethinks eclipse is a kind of universal tool platform - an open extensible IDE for anything and nothing in particular.  http://www.eclipse.org/
17:30.33wizard123:)
17:30.38wizard123hi again
17:30.46icedearthalright
17:30.50icedearthanyone got eclipse working
17:30.57wizard123apt icedearth
17:30.58icedearthor know a good UML program, other than dia?
17:31.10wizard123icedearth: umbrello?
17:31.21icedearththanks
17:31.40wizard123i think it's part of koffice
17:31.45wizard123or other kde part
17:31.51icedearthmmm, ill have to load all the kde libraries
17:31.52icedearthnever mind
17:31.53keyrawizard123: kde ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
17:32.03icedearthwell its for a uni assignment
17:32.07icedearthill use it then remove it!
17:32.16wizard123:)
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17:42.34ee_larshello people :)
17:42.41keyraee_lars: hi
17:42.56dererk[work]WoW... Danger... there's a ee_lars around  :-\
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17:44.53ee_larsahah :)
17:45.10ee_larshi dererk[lieryouneverworks]
17:47.33dererk[work]ee_lars, ¬¬'
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17:59.55Elive_userhi
18:00.40Elive_userdoes any1 have some problem like xorg crash when changing the resolution under elive revolution?
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18:27.04elmo40Elive_user: it shouldnt happen
18:27.20elmo40but things do muck up like that from time to time... what vid card?
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18:30.49spiliowedna
18:30.52spiliommmm
18:30.54spiliowenas
18:31.01keyraspilio: nas nas :)
18:31.42spiliokeyra,  I love you :)
18:31.53spiliomuncho
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18:57.49Elive_userelmo40, geforce4 420 go
18:57.59Elive_useri'm using the legacy driver
18:58.27Elive_userchanging resolution work on gnome
18:58.27keyraElive_user: gnome ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
18:58.49Elive_useryes, so i have make some test to see what is my problem
19:00.21Elive_useri have debian etch on the same laptop, i use the last cvs of e17 on, and i can change my resolution without problem
19:00.29keyraElive_user: e17 is in development, remember it, use e16 if you want a complete, stable, and finished WM
19:00.51wizard123hi there
19:01.25wizard123Elive_user: don't care about keyra, it is a bot
19:01.33keyrawizard123: bot
19:01.33wizard123very annoying bot, imo :P
19:01.38wizard123keyra: bot
19:01.48Elive_useryes i know, i just want to know if anyone have this problem and know how to resolv it, if not, i will change it by the xorg.conf and wait for an update :)
19:02.01Elive_usererf ok lol
19:02.43wizard123i've never used apps for changing resolutions, i prefere ctrl+alt++ or c+a+-
19:02.46wizard123:)
19:03.05wizard123it works if you set more than one res. in your xorg.conf
19:03.12Elive_userho, i don't know this shortcut :o
19:03.41Elive_usermmm i doing nothing on my laptop :/
19:04.03wizard123you need to set up resolutions first
19:04.16Elive_userin the xorg.conf ?
19:04.22wizard123Modes "1024x768" "800x600" for example
19:04.26wizard123yes
19:04.31Elive_useri have 4 entry on
19:06.11wizard123hmm
19:06.16wizard123it should work :|
19:06.26wizard123i mean.. it worked few years ago
19:06.41wizard123do you use - on numpad ?
19:06.57Elive_useri don't have a numpad
19:07.02Elive_userit's on a laptop
19:07.33wizard123i have a laptop too, but i can change some keys into numpad by pressing Fn+numlock
19:07.36wizard123:)
19:08.39Elive_userusing fn+numlock or not don't change anything :x
19:09.01Elive_useri alway need the shift key to make a number
19:09.05Elive_user+s
19:09.25wizard123so.. i don't have a solution for you
19:09.28wizard123:( i'm sorry
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19:09.41Elive_usernp :)
19:09.49wizard123you can wait for better times, when e17 will be more stable
19:10.07Elive_usermaybe the nvidia-settings can 'resolv' my problem
19:10.57roxvilleor the e17 key bindings
19:11.24wizard123hi roxville
19:11.30roxvillehi wizard123
19:11.36Elive_userhi
19:11.49roxvilleElive_user, open a terminal and type "erme"
19:12.18Elive_usernot found
19:12.22roxvillei'm NOT very familiar with the key bindings, never had to use them
19:12.25roxvilleok
19:12.27Elive_userneed sudo?
19:12.41roxvillethen look in the configuration menu
19:12.53roxvilleyou can try with su
19:13.02roxvilleyou on the live cd?
19:13.19Elive_userno, i have installed it
19:14.02roxvilleok, then su and your pw
19:14.47Elive_useri use sudo, and it the same
19:15.10roxvilleok...whatever wets your whistle...
19:16.05roxvilleyou may also be able to get to the config panle via the menu...under system settings or something
19:16.22roxvilleerme may have become obsolete
19:16.28Elive_userok
19:27.35wizard123i wish e17 will be popular desktop
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19:31.26roxvilleso do i
19:31.56roxvillebut in order for that to happen, they need to make some basic configs very easy to do
19:32.07roxvilleand they are on their way to doing that
19:33.18z00mbie<PROTECTED>
19:33.39z00mbiequien me puede decriq ue programa puedo utlizar para ver la red de samba en e17
19:34.15wizard123o_O
19:34.30z00mbie??????
19:34.37keyraz00mbie: with only one "?" you have sufficient
19:34.41z00mbieo como hago para ver la red??
19:34.44wizard123z00mbie: could you use english, please?
19:35.08wizard123i speak some languages.. but not yours :)
19:35.32z00mbienopI do not speak very well English
19:35.39wizard123just try :D
19:36.41wizard123( i remember myself few years ago when i was trying to get help on ##linux here)
19:36.57z00mbieok can help to see the network me of samba in e17
19:37.33wizard123you may use linneighbourhood
19:37.42wizard123it's included in elive
19:37.52Elive_usermidnight can explore samba's share
19:38.00wizard123:o
19:38.37z00mbieok but this or written linneighbourhood thus? or as it is?
19:40.12wizard123i use lin**hood
19:40.30z00mbie<PROTECTED>
19:40.30z00mbiethis is a program--> midnight?
19:41.07wizard123mc
19:41.13wizard123midnight commander :D
19:41.19wizard123launch it on console
19:41.47wizard123pizza! i'll be right back :D
19:43.59Elive_usergood lunch
19:44.42roxvillehe's on poland...it's dinner
19:44.47roxvillein poland
19:44.54roxville:)
19:45.02wizard123;)
19:47.38z00mbieey de donde instalastes linneighborhood??? tienes el repositorio....
19:47.45keyraz00mbie: with only one "?" you have sufficient
19:47.53z00mbieey of where instalastes linneighborhood? you have repositorio?.
19:49.03z00mbie<PROTECTED>
19:49.03z00mbieif but I want to install linneighborhood
19:50.27z00mbiecomo hago?
19:50.52quidam-Ô.Ô
19:50.57quidam-el z00mbie hablando ingles?
19:51.03quidam-JAJAJAJAJAJA estoy hay que verlo xD
19:52.10quidam-quamaretto, :*
19:52.12quidam-long time xD
19:52.17roxvillelooks like spanglish :)
19:52.29quidam-roxville, lol
19:52.59quidam-roxville, z00mbie think samba is different here, but he can use samba on e17
19:53.07quidam-i dont see any problem on this situation
19:53.47roxvillei'm not very good at samba... but yes, it's different from the kde-samba
19:53.55keyraroxville: kde ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
19:54.05roxvilleyes keyra darling :)
19:54.13keyraroxville: :)
19:54.13roxvillei'm crazy
19:54.20quidam-Gnome
19:54.22quidam-kde
19:54.27keyraquidam-: gnome ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
19:54.32quidam-lol
19:54.48quidam-keyra, me encanta tu trasero
19:54.53quidam-xD
19:54.57z00mbieXD
19:55.02z00mbiequidam- ayudame tu
19:55.04quidam-roxville, but e17 can work with gtk
19:55.11z00mbieen e17 no puedo ver la red
19:55.13quidam-i dont see the problem
19:55.18quidam-z00mbie, que si tonto
19:55.26quidam-que lo hagas normal como lo harias en debian con gnome
19:55.27z00mbiequien dijo
19:55.32quidam-z00mbie, Chavez
19:55.34keyraquidam-: gnome ? on Elive ? you crazy ?
19:55.34quidam-chavez lo dijo
19:55.38z00mbiepero n e podido
19:55.39quidam-y si el lo dice ES VERDAD¡
19:55.41quidam-xDDDDDD
19:55.47z00mbiequien ?
19:55.50quidam-z00mbie, pss si samba trae un fronted
19:55.57quidam-deberia poder funcionar en e17 normal
19:56.14z00mbiepero si aqui no lo e podiddo ejecutar
19:56.32z00mbieni siquiera se cual es le e dado a todos los paquetes instalados y nada
19:56.43z00mbieq comando le doy?
19:56.48quidam-que se yo
19:56.50quidam-no uso samba
19:56.51quidam-xD
19:57.00quidam-pregunta en ingles, quizas alguien te ayude
19:57.19z00mbieseee pero npo soy un wuievo...es q n e podido ver la red
19:58.37quidam-tu veras si preguntas en ingles
19:58.37quidam-xD
19:58.44wizard123:|
19:58.45quidam-es cosa tuya :p
19:59.28wizard123apt: x es en tuya
19:59.28quidam-wizard123, z00mbie can not see the windows network with samba
19:59.29wizard123quidam-: samba is _server_
19:59.30wizard123he needs _client_
20:00.20quidam-wizard123, ok, what is the name of the client?
20:03.29wizard123smbclient, smbmount, lin**hood
20:03.52wizard123konqueror, nautilus
20:04.00keyrawizard123: konqueror is bloated ! do you want to turn Elive in the same to any another distro ? why use Elive then ?
20:04.54wizard123keyra: shut up bitch!
20:05.02keyrawizard123: :-#
20:05.12wizard123heh, that's better
20:05.35wizard123i hate bots
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20:16.06quidam-ok ok
20:16.48quidam-wizard123, thanks :)
20:17.34wizard123your welcome
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20:46.32z00mbieuna pregunta q comando debo utilizar para cambiar la pass de mi nick
20:49.10dererk[work]<PROTECTED>
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20:54.42LinuxNITwelcome Elive_user88
20:54.55Elive_user88hi LinuxNIT
20:55.11LinuxNIThowdy
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20:55.54Elive_user88I'm testing elive with wifi it's great
20:56.00LinuxNITcool
20:56.18LinuxNITwhat driver?
20:56.38Elive_user88bcm43xx
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20:57.54LinuxNITcool
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20:58.48LinuxNIThaving trouble z00mbie
20:58.49LinuxNIT?
21:00.23Elive_user88see u later, and thanx for this distribution
21:00.34LinuxNITthank Thanatermesis,
21:00.38LinuxNITlater Elive_user88
21:00.51Elive_user88and the testers too
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21:48.39puchoegrub hola
21:48.45puchoegrub como andas?
21:48.46keyrapucho: que tal ?
21:48.58egrubHola pucho
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21:49.29puchoegrub, re bien y vos?
21:49.53egrubpucho, bien
21:51.15egrubQue haces? pucho
21:51.27puchouso en emule con irc XD
21:52.21egrubQue bien
21:52.38puchosolo probar eso
21:52.49egrubSi.
21:53.21puchoegrub,no entiendo bien por mi velocidad, es total 93.3 k!!
21:53.34puchoen emule
21:53.46egrubpucho, estas usando speedy?
21:53.55puchosii, uso en speedy
21:54.04egrubVaya... Que suertudo
21:56.11puchoegrub, XD
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23:09.44Mike-How ca I change wallpaper in e17
23:09.51Mike-.5.3
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23:10.27icedearthuse configuration panel
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23:11.02Mike-does not apply selection
23:11.31icedearthyes it does its a bit
23:11.41icedearth"tempremental"
23:11.46icedearthbut close it and open it again
23:11.51icedearthand it will work
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23:12.30Mike-cheers
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23:21.46Mike-icedearth, What is the best procedure in loading wallpaper in e17
23:21.48Mike-?
23:22.05icedearthhow do you mean?
23:22.16icedearthadd it with configuration panel background
23:22.22Elive_user33man
23:22.25Elive_user33whats with this
23:22.32Elive_user333rd time instakking elive
23:22.37Elive_user33installing*
23:22.51roxvilleElive_user33 whats the prob?
23:23.04Mike-yes then how do I select it?
23:23.09icedearthhold on
23:23.27Elive_user33the last 2 installs it installed fine but when I go to boot up and it attempts to start x for the log in screen it just keeps flashing and never shows the log in screen
23:23.58roxvilleElive_user33 whats you graphics card?
23:23.59icedearthselect background settings from configuration panel
23:24.07Mike-yes
23:24.10icedearthand naviagate to your wallpaper
23:24.11Elive_user33I think its nvidia
23:24.13icedearththen double click
23:24.18Mike-ok
23:24.19icedearthGIMP will open, but just close it
23:24.27Mike-cheers
23:24.29icedearththen the wallpaper is added
23:25.05Elive_user33I chose nvidia when I booted up but it has problems
23:25.06roxvilleElive_user33 does it run on nvidia drivers when you run as live cd?
23:25.07icedearthbut you might need to close the background settings and then open again
23:25.08Mike-i have it added but cannot select it
23:25.14Elive_user33yea
23:25.42roxvilleElive_user33 ok... it has problems... then use vesa when you boot up
23:25.44Elive_user33this time I choose veva and changed the resolution
23:25.46icedearthyou have pressed the select another image button, yes?
23:25.47Mike-nv works,Nvidia is hit and miss in .5.3
23:25.48Elive_user33vesa*
23:25.51roxvilleinstall, and you can fix it later
23:26.07Elive_user33yea I figured Id choose vesa when I boot up
23:26.08roxvillealso, try to find out your graphics card model
23:26.25Elive_user33<3 the new night theme elive has
23:26.25Mike-dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    ,,,as #
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23:26.37roxvilleyeah, it's nice :)
23:26.58Elive_user33I had just regular e16 installed on a diff hardrive once before
23:27.13icedearthe17 is the best
23:27.15Elive_user33that HD is packed away for retirement :P
23:27.15icedearthi use it every day
23:27.18icedearthi love it
23:27.20icedearthyes I do
23:27.24roxvillehehe
23:27.35roxvillehey icedearth  how ya doin' bud?
23:27.35icedearthhows things roxville?
23:27.40roxville:D
23:27.41icedearthsnap!
23:27.51icedearthim okay thanks mate, ready for Xmas?
23:27.57icedearthbuying presents 4 ur family
23:28.18roxvilleno, not yet... you need money to do that
23:28.25icedearthoh dear mate
23:28.36icedearthXmas is cancelled this year
23:28.39roxvilleor a credit card...in which case you gotta have money...
23:28.42icedearthive got too much work to do!
23:29.03roxvillei hear ya
23:29.31icedearthstill using Elive though
23:29.34icedearthwont give up!
23:29.39icedearthas long as Than keeps developing
23:29.42icedearthim still gonig!
23:29.50icedearthI put SusE10 on my other laptop!
23:29.53icedearthits rubbish!!
23:29.57roxvilleElive_user33 boot and install in vesa mode... the graphics drivers in 0.5.3 are beta...
23:30.17Elive_user33yea Im booted to live cd installing right now
23:30.27roxvilleyeah suse kinda sucks...and especially now that they sold out to MS
23:30.32Elive_user33I choose vesa and changed my res
23:30.36roxvilleok, good call
23:30.45icedearthcan i get rid of the default wallpaper?
23:30.47icedearthwhere is it kept
23:30.50icedearthim fed up with it
23:30.54roxvillelol
23:30.55Elive_user33man I tried to install freebsd didnt go over too well
23:31.07icedearthi wil only ever use DEbain now
23:31.08roxvillein /.e/e/backgrounds?
23:31.16icedearthusing YaST after apt-get was a nightmare
23:31.18icedearthslow and rubbish
23:31.20icedearthi hated it
23:31.29icedearthill try that rox, thanks
23:31.48roxvilleElive_user33 i never made a freebsd install... so i use pc-bsd when i wanna try a bsd
23:31.48caim<PROTECTED>
23:32.20Elive_user33I dont know it said pop in the cd and type >>>boot dka0 then the install.txt went off about SRM consoles
23:32.26caimElive_user, i had a problem to
23:32.29Mr_Kapoothere better nick
23:32.46caimi didn't recognize mu hd
23:32.52roxvilleicedearth, http://wiki.elivecd.org/community/en/621
23:32.59icedearthta
23:33.19elmo40roxville: have any idea why i can only change windows with the left Alt key, and not the right?
23:33.31Mr_Kapoothis 3rd elive install better work I want something different other then mandriva 2006
23:33.44roxvilleelmo40, nope, no idea
23:33.58roxvillecheck the key bindings
23:34.06roxvillemaybe?
23:34.39icedearthwow, thats a woody effect!!!
23:34.54roxvilleMr_Kapoo, hehe... elive is very different to mandriva
23:35.01icedearthi might install it for a giggle
23:35.05Mr_Kapoo<PROTECTED>
23:35.32roxvilleicedearth,  i modded the cthulhain theme and the elpanel theme...i also modded a gtk theme... so it's mostly wood now :)
23:35.45Mr_Kapooit just said I cancled the installation and I did no such thing
23:36.05Mr_Kapoothen it said I didnt have enough space
23:36.11icedearthhave you uploaded them?
23:36.19roxvilleMr_Kapoo, you MAY have a bad burn... did you md5sum the iso?
23:36.36Mr_Kapooyea but I installed it twice all ready
23:36.37roxvilleicedearth,  no...nowhere to upload
23:36.46roxvilleand it's for the dev version of e17
23:36.50Mr_Kapoowith no errors
23:37.03roxvilleno errors? what about the X problem?
23:37.06Mike-yast is crap
23:37.16roxvilleMike-, i agree
23:37.17Mike-Novell is a sellout
23:37.17Mr_Kapoowell no errors during insall
23:37.24icedearthshame
23:37.28icedearthi want some new themes
23:37.30Mike-long live debian
23:37.32icedearthfor e17!!!
23:37.37roxvillewell you can get several different errors...
23:37.38keyraMike-: Debian r00lz !
23:37.51Mike-e17 have the night theme?
23:37.51roxvillemy guess is that you burned the cd at too high speed
23:38.27Mike-icedearth, wallpaper is sorted ,,looks wicked
23:38.29roxvilleif you burn at higher than 8x.... you asking for it
23:38.47icedearthyeah i got some wicked new ones
23:38.49Mike-4x,,DAO is safe
23:38.53icedearthany new themes around?
23:39.33roxvilleicedearth,  no...only for the dev version... and it's... not much to my taste...it's yellow
23:39.34Mr_Kapoothats impossible
23:39.38Mr_Kapoothe install worked twice
23:39.42icedearthyuk!
23:39.44Mr_Kapoonow its being gay the 3rd time
23:40.27roxvilleapt, give Mr_Kapoo a cookie
23:40.33aptACTION gives Mr_Kapoo a home-baked macadamia nut cookie to cheer him up.
23:40.47Mr_Kapoolol
23:40.48icedearthok got to go
23:40.52icedearthcatch up soon!!
23:40.57roxvilleok icedearth  be good!
23:41.20roxvilleMr_Kapoo,  what speed did you birn the cd at?
23:41.26roxvilleburn
23:41.33Mr_Kapoo40 x
23:41.52roxvillelol, no wonder you hesitated to tell me :D
23:42.16Mr_Kapooit cant be the cd though
23:42.26roxvilleit sure can
23:42.41roxvillei've done it too...learned my lesson
23:42.48roxvilleit MAY work...
23:42.53Mr_KapooI attepted to install it twice today both times were succesfull u
23:43.07Mr_Kapoobut when I rebooted into elive it couldnt start X
23:43.08roxvillebut you can also get weird errors, like the ones you got...
23:43.13roxvilleit's a hit and miss
23:43.18Mr_Kapooit said I needed 2 gb free
23:43.27Mr_KapooI was like wtf there IS 2 gbs free
23:43.39Mr_Kapooso now Im trying a 4th time :)
23:43.41roxville2.5 to be exact, actually
23:43.50Mr_Kapooand Im not stopping untill I get this to work
23:43.56Mr_Kapoo<3 elive
23:43.59roxvilleMr_Kapoo,  please re-burn the cd at 8x...
23:44.02roxvillehehe
23:44.25Mr_KapooI burned my other elive cd at 40 X and I got that to work on a different computer
23:44.31roxville40x is for mp3's and porn flicks...
23:44.35Mr_Kapoountill I lost it so I burned another one
23:45.09Mr_Kapoothis time I got the elive revolution iso
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23:46.47Mr_KapooI think I might of pressed the wrong button adn accidently cancled it
23:47.03roxvilleok :)
23:47.22Mr_Kapooyou know how elive is if you move the mouse over to a diff window
23:47.38roxvilleoh, youre using e16?
23:47.44Mr_Kapoonah e17
23:47.59roxvilleok
23:48.10Mr_Kapoohave you ever tried mepis?
23:48.34roxvillebut the dev set e17 so it would not select the window until you click
23:49.08roxvilleMr_Kapoo, not the real mepis... just the free version...and the SOHO server...a while back
23:49.16Mr_Kapoohrm
23:49.29Mr_KapooI had mepis but I had problems with the synaptic package manager
23:49.53Mr_Kapoowhenever I tried to install a program it would remove dire packages I needed and screw up the kernel
23:51.15Mr_Kapoothat was when I first tried e16
23:52.01roxvillewow
23:52.22roxvilleelive saved my ass from committing suicide...
23:52.27Mr_Kapoolol
23:53.06roxvillei was going nuts over trying to configure e16 or e17 on 'the big U"
23:53.16Mr_Kapoolinux saved my ass from doing that
23:53.19roxvillea year and a half ago
23:53.33roxvillethen i found elive... and never really looked back
23:53.46Mr_KapooI like the packages elive comes with
23:53.56Mr_Kapoolike hydrogen and typespeed
23:54.17roxvilleyeah... there's al least one distro that's actually BASED on elive :)
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23:55.03roxvillebut it's got xfce... with engage on it... looks kinda slick
23:55.39roxvillebut it's 95% elive... even the names of the packages still have the name "elive" on them
23:55.43LinuxNITe17 is better than xfce
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23:55.54Mr_KapooI like the fact elive is debian based
23:55.54LinuxNIT:)
23:56.00roxvilleLinuxNIT,  wtf are you saying?
23:56.01keyraMr_Kapoo: Debian r00lz !
23:56.07Mr_Kapooand enlighment is a good window manager
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23:56.28LinuxNITroxville, ?
23:56.34Mr_Kapoobut I enjoy the simpilicty of fluxbox
23:56.37roxville<LinuxNIT> e17 is better than xfce
23:56.52roxvilleoh...
23:57.00roxvillethis is not #xlive?
23:57.04roxvilleomg...
23:57.33roxvilleLinuxNIT,  i am just messing wi'ya
23:57.59roxvilleok
23:58.00LinuxNIT;)
23:59.22roxvillee17 is the fastest wm/dm after flux
23:59.30roxvilleand i think that is sooooo cool!
23:59.37roxville:)

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