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| 00:33.51 | revdjenk | hello everyone from base system land!!! hee hee |
| 00:34.50 | revdjenk | Thanatermesis, I reinstalled .4.2 with the old kernel...what is your site for the .15 upgrade again, please |
| 00:37.35 | revdjenk | my "science experiment" with apt-get upgrade went badly (no ones' fault but mine, I pushed the "y" button...but would not recommend that to anyone who has upgraded using Thana's 2.6.15 kernel |
| 00:38.23 | revdjenk | hello? |
| 00:38.39 | revdjenk | roxville, svelte swede |
| 00:39.05 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac |
| 00:39.21 | revdjenk | thank you...I'm glad to be back ! |
| 00:40.19 | revdjenk | I'll be away upgrading... |
| 00:42.27 | roxville | hey revdjenk :) |
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| 00:49.22 | revdjenk | hey |
| 01:02.47 | roxville | lol |
| 01:05.54 | roxville | TMI |
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| 03:04.02 | chiletix | hello |
| 03:04.59 | chiletix | i want to install e16 on my notebook, but i it get stucks with gparted, any idea? |
| 03:05.06 | chiletix | need help please |
| 03:06.30 | roxville | hmmm ... i'm not sure what the problem might be |
| 03:06.49 | roxville | e16... you mean elive? |
| 03:07.04 | chiletix | elive |
| 03:07.27 | roxville | when does gparted get stuck? |
| 03:07.57 | roxville | or is it just hard to understand? |
| 03:08.45 | chiletix | i just start the live cd, and then i click the button on the bar for the instalation |
| 03:08.57 | chiletix | it ask me for sata and swat |
| 03:09.30 | chiletix | and then it get begins gparted but nothing hapens |
| 03:09.37 | chiletix | after a while |
| 03:10.28 | roxville | do you know what version of elive you have? |
| 03:11.27 | roxville | open a terminal, become root by typing: su |
| 03:11.46 | roxville | then: apt-get update |
| 03:12.04 | chiletix | wait a sec |
| 03:12.11 | roxville | then: apt-get install elive-installer |
| 03:12.22 | chiletix | have to boot it |
| 03:12.42 | roxville | oh, ok |
| 03:14.01 | chiletix | just a sec, wont take too long |
| 03:14.38 | roxville | no problem :) |
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| 03:20.14 | revdjenk | roxville... |
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| 03:20.54 | roxville | revdjenk, |
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| 03:21.24 | revdjenk | help...have reconfigured kernel 2.6.15 |
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| 03:21.32 | revdjenk | but have killed my ibar |
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| 03:21.46 | chiletix | ok |
| 03:22.02 | revdjenk | had the double problem...and deleted the config dir |
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| 03:22.17 | roxville | ok Chiletix :) |
| 03:22.34 | roxville | open a terminal, become root by typing: su |
| 03:22.40 | roxville | then: apt-get update |
| 03:22.44 | Elive_user56 | hi i am chiletix , sorry problem with the computer couldnt log out |
| 03:22.45 | roxville | then: apt-get install elive-installer |
| 03:23.38 | roxville | revdjenk, so... typing ibar in terminal does not give you ibar? |
| 03:23.47 | revdjenk | ok...there are a few packages it couldn't update... |
| 03:23.54 | revdjenk | ibar |
| 03:24.05 | revdjenk | no |
| 03:24.07 | Elive_user56 | y couldnt update some repositories |
| 03:24.23 | revdjenk | correct debian unstale |
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| 03:24.42 | roxville | Elive_user31, what repositories? |
| 03:24.46 | revdjenk | packages.debian.org unstable/packages |
| 03:25.08 | roxville | oops |
| 03:25.25 | revdjenk | had that prob doing the kernel upgrade |
| 03:25.49 | roxville | Elive_user56 , what repositories? |
| 03:25.54 | revdjenk | unstable/kde Packages as well |
| 03:26.01 | Elive_user56 | roxville, i am chiletix |
| 03:26.16 | roxville | yes i know |
| 03:26.51 | roxville | open a terminal, become root by typing: su |
| 03:26.53 | Elive_user56 | idefix |
| 03:27.05 | Elive_user56 | idefix main efl elive |
| 03:27.07 | revdjenk | im there |
| 03:27.11 | roxville | ok... then you will just have to wait, i'm afraid |
| 03:27.16 | revdjenk | idefix main elf elive |
| 03:27.29 | roxville | Elive_user56, try again |
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| 03:27.59 | Elive_user56 | roxville, nothing |
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| 03:28.22 | Gwildor_ | o/ |
| 03:28.41 | o[WildChild]o | hi Gwildor_ :) |
| 03:28.49 | Gwildor_ | :) |
| 03:29.00 | roxville | Elive_user56, it's a small repo... so you will have to try again later |
| 03:29.10 | Elive_user56 | a ok |
| 03:29.21 | Elive_user56 | and thats the one for the installer? |
| 03:29.25 | Gwildor_ | rox o/ |
| 03:29.26 | roxville | but what you may need to install, is the package called elive-installer |
| 03:29.37 | roxville | hiya Gwildor :) |
| 03:29.39 | revdjenk | rox...is that for me? |
| 03:30.57 | o[WildChild]o | is the kernel compiled with the I2C option? |
| 03:31.06 | roxville | no revdjenk it's for Elive_user56 , aka chiletix |
| 03:31.16 | revdjenk | gotcha |
| 03:31.27 | Elive_user56 | are you shure its elive-installer an not eliveinstaller |
| 03:31.37 | roxville | nope |
| 03:31.43 | roxville | :) |
| 03:31.50 | Elive_user56 | because there is a eliveinstaller |
| 03:32.50 | roxville | yeah i just checked, and that's the right name |
| 03:32.56 | roxville | the one you said |
| 03:33.11 | Elive_user56 | i have the last one installe, i mean on the live cd |
| 03:33.16 | Gwildor_ | roxville, know of any way to boot the live CD from HDD via grub? |
| 03:34.29 | Elive_user56 | roxville, one of the 1000 of problems is Error reading inode (a numbre) |
| 03:34.33 | Elive_user56 | number |
| 03:35.51 | roxville | sorry Gwildor , not my cup o' tea... |
| 03:36.23 | Gwildor_ | fwell, if i find out how, ill write a how-to |
| 03:36.30 | roxville | Elive_user56, that's unfortunately as far as my knowledge goes... :/ |
| 03:36.52 | roxville | but Elive_user56 this is a VERY helpful and friendly channel |
| 03:36.55 | Elive_user56 | but any idea, problems with my hard drive? |
| 03:37.18 | roxville | if you hang out for a while... or try tomorrow, you WILL get help eventually |
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| 03:37.44 | Elive_user56 | may be |
| 03:38.06 | roxville | Elive_user56, try launching gparted on it's own, see what it does |
| 03:38.15 | Elive_user56 | the same |
| 03:38.30 | roxville | you can find it in elpanel, the elive control panel behind the keys icon |
| 03:38.34 | Gwildor_ | i think thana says...use cfdisk to partition......gparted to select mount point |
| 03:41.08 | Elive_user | bye |
| 03:42.06 | Elive_user56 | roxville, what should i do there? |
| 03:42.55 | roxville | well from what i understood... gparted got stuck? |
| 03:43.03 | roxville | when using the installer |
| 03:43.12 | Elive_user56 | yes |
| 03:44.19 | pycs | guys, have you seen Olive? hmm, what can this distro offer?... LoL |
| 03:44.21 | pycs | http://web.isteve.bofh.cz/olive/index.html |
| 03:45.26 | Elive_user56 | roxville, it continues with takeing its time |
| 03:45.56 | roxville | how long have you waited? |
| 03:48.05 | roxville | cuase gparted can take a good while |
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| 03:48.43 | Gwildor_ | test |
| 03:53.51 | Elive_user56 | 15 minutes |
| 03:53.52 | Elive_user56 | ore more |
| 03:53.52 | Elive_user56 | should i wait longer? |
| 03:53.58 | Elive_user56 | hello |
| 03:54.06 | Elive_user56 | hello |
| 03:54.10 | Elive_user56 | aha |
| 03:54.14 | Elive_user56 | i only have a drive of 40 gigs |
| 03:54.22 | roxville | hmmm |
| 03:54.30 | Elive_user56 | should i leave it running a long time? |
| 03:54.39 | Gwildor_ | yeah..will take long time |
| 03:54.41 | roxville | and that is with only gparted? |
| 03:54.59 | Gwildor_ | or was the time thing fixeD? |
| 03:55.00 | Elive_user56 | at the moment yes |
| 03:55.10 | Elive_user56 | not yet |
| 03:55.46 | roxville | ok... i don't know how long you can wait... but try to hold out... elive IS worth it :) |
| 03:56.08 | Elive_user56 | yes i am seeing that |
| 03:56.24 | roxville | good |
| 03:56.41 | Elive_user56 | that why i am tring to make it work |
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| 03:56.57 | roxville | :) |
| 03:57.00 | mhz | rookmoot: who? |
| 03:57.04 | mhz | sorry |
| 03:57.08 | mhz | roxville: who? |
| 03:57.24 | roxville | when i first tried elive, with 0.3.... i had to do it 5 times before i got it working |
| 03:57.31 | roxville | lol |
| 03:57.43 | Elive_user56 | jajjaja |
| 03:57.45 | roxville | mhz, Elive_user56 |
| 03:58.04 | mhz | Elive_user31: felicitaciones por usar Elive!! |
| 03:58.18 | roxville | mhz, Elive_user56 |
| 03:58.22 | Elive_user56 | its a noteook P4m 2GHz |
| 03:58.23 | roxville | not 31 |
| 03:59.17 | roxville | Elive_user31 is from maryland, usa... |
| 03:59.42 | mhz | Elive_user56: oops, felcitaciones! |
| 03:59.43 | mhz | :D |
| 04:01.57 | Elive_user56 | mhz, español |
| 04:02.59 | mhz | Elive_user56: chileno |
| 04:03.20 | Elive_user56 | mhz, tmb chileno |
| 04:03.34 | mhz | felicitaciones ++ |
| 04:03.37 | mhz | :D |
| 04:03.55 | mhz | Elive_user56: and why did you decide to give elive a try? |
| 04:04.39 | roxville | mhz, he hasn't really succeeded yet... we're just hoping to be able to help him... |
| 04:04.52 | roxville | in installing it, that is |
| 04:04.53 | mhz | roxville: any chance you could convince Thanatermesis not to set xchat nicks ? |
| 04:05.00 | mhz | just leave them blanck |
| 04:05.02 | Elive_user56 | mhz, becouse a saw it today and i fall in love in it |
| 04:05.25 | mhz | indeed, Elive_user56, elive is just too beatiful |
| 04:05.27 | roxville | mhz, he knows how to change it |
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| 04:05.42 | mhz | rookmoot: he? who? |
| 04:05.43 | Elive_user56 | thats right |
| 04:05.49 | roxville | i guess beling lazy is just a chilean talent... |
| 04:05.57 | roxville | :D |
| 04:05.58 | mhz | roxville: hehehehe |
| 04:06.09 | mhz | lazy and horney |
| 04:06.11 | mhz | :D |
| 04:06.14 | Elive_user56 | i not lazy |
| 04:06.19 | roxville | hehe |
| 04:06.57 | mhz | roxville: I mean, on one side, it is a good marketing stategy to set nicks to Elive |
| 04:06.58 | mhz | but |
| 04:07.11 | Elive_user56 | y have been working hard learning samba |
| 04:07.13 | roxville | well Elive_user56 your present nick is kinda complicated, even with nick auto-completion, so feel free to change to chiletix again :) |
| 04:07.32 | mhz | once they get to IRC i get dizzy trying not to mistake the autocompletition of the nick |
| 04:07.59 | Elive_user56 | jajaja |
| 04:08.02 | Elive_user56 | ok |
| 04:08.21 | mhz | I have seen 4 Elive_user's in just one day |
| 04:08.28 | Elive_user56 | jajaj |
| 04:08.33 | Elive_user56 | sorry |
| 04:08.56 | mhz | thanks god no one has ever complained to me when mistaking |
| 04:09.04 | mhz | mistyping I mean |
| 04:09.44 | roxville | really? |
| 04:09.52 | roxville | :D |
| 04:10.03 | mhz | yup |
| 04:10.33 | mhz | roxville: imagine I ever mistype an insult from diabetik! |
| 04:10.47 | roxville | hehe! |
| 04:10.52 | mhz | I could be kicked otr banned |
| 04:11.02 | Elive_user56 | good night everybody, thanks for everything |
| 04:11.14 | Elive_user56 | i am tired and ill go to bed now |
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| 04:11.26 | roxville | Elive_user56, good night... and don't give up! |
| 04:11.38 | Elive_user56 | se you tomorow if i still got problems |
| 04:11.40 | Elive_user56 | bye |
| 04:11.52 | roxville | and if there is a newer eliveinstaller... install it! |
| 04:11.58 | roxville | shit... |
| 04:13.21 | mhz | see? |
| 04:13.23 | mhz | dangerous |
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| 04:20.31 | roxville | hello Elive_user72 and Elive_user37 |
| 04:20.44 | mhz | roxville: see?? |
| 04:21.42 | roxville | mhz, we ARE aware of this, y'know... |
| 04:21.50 | mhz | okis |
| 04:21.59 | mhz | bye all |
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| 04:22.07 | roxville | but we encourage our elive_users to change nick asap :) |
| 04:22.38 | Elive_user72 | HI |
| 04:22.54 | LinuxNIT | howdy Daskreec1 |
| 04:23.19 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 04:25.28 | roxville | hello Daskreec1 and noo... he had a pretty cool nick... |
| 04:27.11 | roxville | i'm off to bed too |
| 04:27.20 | roxville | see yall later! |
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| 05:38.29 | Elive_user | Is it possible to install ATI drivers in eLive? |
| 05:38.48 | Elive_user | on linux XP the drivers worked on it, cant get it to work on eLive |
| 05:41.25 | GPLGeek | elive_user ati drivers are installed |
| 05:41.34 | GPLGeek | elive_user when booting select FGRLX |
| 05:42.06 | Elive_user | Oh, So I need to reinstall e-live to select FGRLX? |
| 05:42.21 | GPLGeek | oh, you installed without it? |
| 05:42.24 | GPLGeek | No you do not need to |
| 05:42.31 | Elive_user | I installed selecting "Raedon" |
| 05:42.44 | GPLGeek | ya that is the DRI project one |
| 05:42.45 | GPLGeek | no accel |
| 05:43.02 | GPLGeek | open a terminal window |
| 05:43.07 | GPLGeek | type su |
| 05:43.13 | GPLGeek | type root password, enter |
| 05:43.29 | Elive_user | Alright |
| 05:43.47 | GPLGeek | sed -i '/s/[ ]*Driver[ ]*"radeon".*$/\tDriver\t"fglrx"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:44.10 | GPLGeek | apt-get install frglrx-driver fglrx-kernel |
| 05:44.36 | Elive_user | Aight so I just need to paste that sed into term, then apt-get? |
| 05:44.38 | GPLGeek | echo "fglrx" >> /etc/modules |
| 05:44.50 | GPLGeek | paste, enter, paste, enter =) |
| 05:44.53 | GPLGeek | making it easy for you |
| 05:45.02 | Elive_user | aight thanks, ill give it a hit |
| 05:45.23 | GPLGeek | sed -i 's/radeon//' /etc/modules |
| 05:45.30 | GPLGeek | sed -i 's/drm//' /etc/modules |
| 05:46.24 | GPLGeek | if that does not work when you reboot then you need to su and then nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf and find the Driver="Radeon" and change it to Driver="fglrx" |
| 05:46.41 | Elive_user | Aight ill try it |
| 05:46.53 | GPLGeek | =) |
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| 05:49.31 | Elive_user | root@elive[/home/bill]# sed -i '/s/[ ]*Driver[ ]*"radeon".*$/\tDriver\t"fglrx"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:49.31 | Elive_user | sed: -e expression #1, char 4: unknown command: `[' |
| 05:49.31 | Elive_user | root@elive[/home/bill]# apt-get install frglrx-driver fglrx-kernel |
| 05:49.31 | Elive_user | Reading package lists... Done |
| 05:49.31 | Elive_user | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 05:49.32 | Elive_user | E: Couldn't find package frglrx-driver |
| 05:50.04 | GPLGeek | must be a paste problem |
| 05:50.11 | GPLGeek | also apt-get update |
| 05:50.28 | Elive_user | ah aight |
| 05:51.03 | Elive_user | Aight, so sed -i '/s/[ ]*Driver[ ]*"radeon".*$/\tDriver\t"fglrx"/g' /etc/X11/xorg.conf is correct? |
| 05:52.51 | GPLGeek | doing that will , i think, put fglrx in the place of radeon |
| 05:53.04 | GPLGeek | but if it dont work you can nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 05:53.08 | GPLGeek | and edit it yourself |
| 05:55.17 | Elive_user | what you pasted above, am i correct but doesnt it change Driver "fglrx" to Driver "radeon" |
| 05:59.04 | GPLGeek | hah, I just saw 3 windows machines crash |
| 05:59.08 | GPLGeek | all at the same time |
| 05:59.10 | GPLGeek | randomly |
| 05:59.27 | Elive_user | hehe |
| 06:00.05 | Elive_user | alright i changed the flgrx to radeon |
| 06:00.07 | Elive_user | in xorg |
| 06:00.16 | GPLGeek | ok |
| 06:00.21 | Elive_user | So reboot? |
| 06:00.36 | GPLGeek | did you apt-get install fglrx-driver |
| 06:00.42 | GPLGeek | apt-get install fgrlx-kernel |
| 06:00.45 | Elive_user | ah crap forgot that |
| 06:00.54 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 06:01.02 | GPLGeek | It's easier than I made it sound, sorry |
| 06:01.11 | Elive_user | no no no you did fine, just tired |
| 06:01.21 | Elive_user | Alright did that, it said it couldnt find the package |
| 06:01.59 | Elive_user | root@elive[/home/bill]# apt-get install fgrlx-kernel |
| 06:02.00 | Elive_user | Reading package lists... Done |
| 06:02.00 | Elive_user | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 06:02.00 | Elive_user | E: Couldn't find package fgrlx-kernel |
| 06:02.50 | GPLGeek | ok for now just reboot |
| 06:02.57 | Elive_user | aight brb ;) |
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| 06:03.23 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, pong |
| 06:03.30 | LinuxNIT | ping |
| 06:03.35 | LinuxNIT | whats up |
| 06:03.47 | GPLGeek | you said my name in the other channel and then quit a while ago |
| 06:03.53 | LinuxNIT | ah yeah |
| 06:04.04 | LinuxNIT | i tried the devel |
| 06:04.18 | GPLGeek | good for testing |
| 06:04.26 | LinuxNIT | i dont know if these are bad butt... |
| 06:04.28 | GPLGeek | not good for much else |
| 06:04.53 | LinuxNIT | on my laptop as well as my the first 6 or 7 lines said failed to load module foooo |
| 06:05.05 | GPLGeek | ya |
| 06:05.09 | LinuxNIT | then little later said failed to load kernel module |
| 06:05.26 | GPLGeek | Which modules |
| 06:05.26 | LinuxNIT | other than that it was fine on the laptop |
| 06:05.32 | GPLGeek | some will not load because of the nature of the release |
| 06:05.34 | GPLGeek | it's stripped |
| 06:05.42 | LinuxNIT | well it still booted |
| 06:05.57 | LinuxNIT | on the desktop it failed to configure x |
| 06:06.08 | GPLGeek | a longer x config too huh |
| 06:06.24 | LinuxNIT | i had to do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 06:06.39 | LinuxNIT | my driver is i810 it tried vesa |
| 06:07.14 | LinuxNIT | after that startx brought up e16 :) |
| 06:07.42 | GPLGeek | there is no e17 |
| 06:07.49 | LinuxNIT | i know :> |
| 06:07.55 | GPLGeek | if you look on the dev page the iso is meant to test ONLY those modules listed |
| 06:08.01 | LinuxNIT | is there a log that will tellme the mdules it failed to load at the first :> |
| 06:08.03 | GPLGeek | mainly on pure functionality |
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| 06:10.05 | Elive_user | omg i can barely read |
| 06:10.12 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 06:10.15 | Elive_user | the resolution is messed, i tried changing it |
| 06:10.22 | Elive_user | When i tried installing ati drivers |
| 06:10.47 | LinuxNIT | oh i dunno about ati |
| 06:10.52 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, does :> |
| 06:11.06 | GPLGeek | In elpanel |
| 06:11.12 | Elive_user | Yeah tried |
| 06:11.16 | GPLGeek | you can fix all resolutions, fonts, etc |
| 06:11.16 | Elive_user | im going to retry aticonfig |
| 06:11.21 | GPLGeek | font size is what you need |
| 06:11.35 | Elive_user | the resolution is messed, not even full screen also |
| 06:11.36 | GPLGeek | aticonfig? |
| 06:11.49 | GPLGeek | Did you try to use the ATI installer fom the ati website? |
| 06:12.03 | Elive_user | Yeah, worked on Linux XP |
| 06:12.10 | GPLGeek | That is the problem. |
| 06:12.23 | GPLGeek | Elive has it's own fglrx |
| 06:12.32 | GPLGeek | I had to break ATI engineer bones to get it |
| 06:12.44 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:12.45 | GPLGeek | Next Elive .5 will be more standard |
| 06:13.02 | Elive_user | Oh, so when i reinstall eLive i should pick flrx instead of radeon? |
| 06:13.02 | GPLGeek | I would say it might be eaiser to reinstall |
| 06:13.05 | GPLGeek | but we could fix it |
| 06:13.11 | GPLGeek | ya, fglrx |
| 06:13.24 | Elive_user | aight so it should fix my frame rates, and other stuff? |
| 06:13.51 | GPLGeek | it should |
| 06:13.55 | Elive_user | aight bbl |
| 06:14.05 | LinuxNIT | so GPLGeek ... |
| 06:14.12 | GPLGeek | I feel bad. |
| 06:14.22 | LinuxNIT | why? |
| 06:14.22 | GPLGeek | I could have had him /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 06:14.24 | GPLGeek | and fixed it |
| 06:14.27 | GPLGeek | but I don't have time |
| 06:14.32 | LinuxNIT | ohh |
| 06:14.44 | GPLGeek | ati installer sucks |
| 06:14.48 | LinuxNIT | i see |
| 06:14.54 | LinuxNIT | do you need to know the moudles that wouldnt load? |
| 06:15.06 | GPLGeek | If you have that information I'd look at it |
| 06:15.10 | GPLGeek | and post it |
| 06:15.12 | LinuxNIT | ill have to get it |
| 06:15.16 | LinuxNIT | is it in a log? |
| 06:15.25 | GPLGeek | if not I think I know what modules they are |
| 06:15.35 | GPLGeek | should be in syslog |
| 06:15.38 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 06:15.44 | LinuxNIT | ill check it later |
| 06:15.49 | LinuxNIT | maybe tomorrow |
| 06:16.00 | GPLGeek | don't over work yourself |
| 06:16.09 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 06:16.55 | GPLGeek | there are 4 sides of linux |
| 06:17.07 | GPLGeek | easy end user use, power user use, expirimental, and developer |
| 06:17.08 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 06:17.17 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 06:17.22 | LinuxNIT | i dunno where i am |
| 06:17.32 | GPLGeek | power user / expirimental |
| 06:17.46 | LinuxNIT | sounds about right |
| 06:18.12 | LinuxNIT | exccept maybe weak power user :) |
| 06:18.29 | GPLGeek | I'm going thorugh all of my backups looking for a cool linux app that I can't find on the net anymore |
| 06:18.37 | LinuxNIT | what did it do? |
| 06:18.38 | GPLGeek | Its a cool hex editor with ASM converts |
| 06:18.50 | GPLGeek | It was like an open source ida pro |
| 06:19.02 | LinuxNIT | some guy in #linux said that ghex was the best hed seen |
| 06:19.05 | LinuxNIT | but i dunno |
| 06:19.31 | LinuxNIT | have you used it? |
| 06:19.39 | GPLGeek | maybe |
| 06:20.01 | GPLGeek | Right now all my linux machiens are down |
| 06:20.05 | GPLGeek | I tested them to death =) |
| 06:20.15 | GPLGeek | got a lot of good info |
| 06:20.35 | GPLGeek | "worked right the first time" on 15/15 objects |
| 06:22.57 | LinuxNIT | that sucks |
| 06:23.46 | GPLGeek | wow |
| 06:23.56 | GPLGeek | I rememberd a password from my old archives |
| 06:24.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:24.10 | GPLGeek | aA3z39Fsbtw9Se |
| 06:24.18 | LinuxNIT | holy shit |
| 06:24.24 | LinuxNIT | you remember that |
| 06:24.31 | GPLGeek | that thing was OLD too |
| 06:24.49 | LinuxNIT | that stuff stand for anything or completely random? |
| 06:25.43 | GPLGeek | it means 61 41 33 7a 33 39 46 73 62 74 77 39 53 65 in hex, which is a very special number to me |
| 06:25.50 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:26.03 | GPLGeek | so ya it was kinda easy to remember |
| 06:27.20 | LinuxNIT | i accedentally deleted a partition off my external drive where i had my data backed up once. in the process of trying to recover it i found deleted fiels that were over 8 yrs old |
| 06:27.39 | GPLGeek | you can look many layers deep |
| 06:27.42 | LinuxNIT | opened my eyes to the insecurity of delete |
| 06:27.54 | GPLGeek | you can find and distinguish between 9 files sharing the same space |
| 06:28.00 | LinuxNIT | damn |
| 06:28.13 | GPLGeek | even a low level format can not save you |
| 06:28.24 | GPLGeek | although it might take enough off that they could not get all of the data back |
| 06:28.51 | LinuxNIT | what about those programs that write 0's and 1's like 5 times to each sector? |
| 06:29.01 | LinuxNIT | or is that a lowlevel format |
| 06:33.56 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, ? |
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| 06:34.14 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user |
| 06:34.29 | Elive_user | I have a question? |
| 06:34.43 | LinuxNIT | ask and we will answer if we can :> |
| 06:35.03 | Elive_user | during a recent update my auto muont for usb and cd dvd stopped working |
| 06:35.13 | Elive_user | does anyone know if this is a known issue |
| 06:35.39 | Elive_user | I can mount video DVD and audio CD but not data cd's |
| 06:35.54 | Elive_user | my usb key can be manually mounted no problem |
| 06:35.57 | LinuxNIT | does it auto mount te DVD |
| 06:36.03 | Elive_user | its not a major issue just an annoyance |
| 06:36.07 | Elive_user | no |
| 06:37.07 | Elive_user | here i will give you the error when i try to mount a data cd |
| 06:38.26 | Elive_user | mount: unknown filesystem type 'auto' |
| 06:38.31 | Elive_user | sorry had to get a c |
| 06:38.32 | Elive_user | cd |
| 06:38.43 | LinuxNIT | unknown type? |
| 06:38.46 | LinuxNIT | thats odd |
| 06:39.26 | Elive_user | yeah |
| 06:39.34 | Elive_user | I looked at the fstab and everything is cool there |
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| 06:39.42 | LinuxNIT | what command did you run? |
| 06:40.00 | Elive_user | for the mount? |
| 06:40.09 | LinuxNIT | that gave you that error |
| 06:40.26 | Elive_user | ohh mount /dev/cdrom |
| 06:40.41 | Elive_user | which should work because thats what it is labeled as in fstab |
| 06:40.44 | LinuxNIT | try mount /mnt/cdrom |
| 06:41.07 | Elive_user | same error |
| 06:41.27 | GPLGeek | ok im back |
| 06:41.27 | GPLGeek | lol I just took an online test |
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| 06:41.32 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:41.37 | GPLGeek | I forgot, I thought I had time but my class is not in the same timezone |
| 06:41.41 | LinuxNIT | thanks for telling me ;) |
| 06:41.42 | GPLGeek | so I have 20 min to finish my assignment |
| 06:41.49 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:42.03 | LinuxNIT | ive been sitting here hollaring for ya ;) |
| 06:42.15 | Elive_user | no ideas huh? |
| 06:42.21 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, is the smart one |
| 06:42.26 | GPLGeek | no real ideas on that |
| 06:42.36 | GPLGeek | my idea is finish my homework first |
| 06:42.39 | LinuxNIT | what is the line in you fstab for /dev/cdrom |
| 06:42.48 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, writing 1s and 0s 5 times might help. |
| 06:42.49 | Elive_user2 | GPL, I think it worked ;) more frames with glxgears. |
| 06:42.49 | LinuxNIT | lol thats cool GPLGeek |
| 06:42.50 | Elive_user | kinda strange i know I have not done anything other then the updates |
| 06:42.56 | GPLGeek | but there is only one true way to destroy data |
| 06:43.02 | Elive_user2 | Now i need to find a program to run guild wars\css |
| 06:43.05 | GPLGeek | cool. |
| 06:43.10 | LinuxNIT | fire? |
| 06:43.10 | Elive_user | give me a sec |
| 06:43.15 | GPLGeek | cedega from transgaming.com |
| 06:43.18 | GPLGeek | it costs |
| 06:43.26 | GPLGeek | wine is included in elive might try that |
| 06:43.28 | Elive_user2 | ah yeah my demo ran out last time i tried it :P |
| 06:43.30 | LinuxNIT | what about wine? |
| 06:43.31 | Elive_user2 | Alright |
| 06:43.37 | GPLGeek | just put the cd in and see what happens |
| 06:43.43 | Elive_user2 | Wine I heard it doesnt work w\ Guild Wars. |
| 06:43.48 | Elive_user2 | but ill try ;) |
| 06:43.49 | Elive_user | /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom udf,iso9660,auto users,noauto,exec,ro 0 0 |
| 06:43.59 | plunennes | Elive_user2: tell me if you got that running |
| 06:44.06 | Elive_user2 | Will do. |
| 06:44.06 | plunennes | i want to play gw too |
| 06:44.16 | Elive_user | wine is a pain to get running..especially with dx stuff |
| 06:44.35 | plunennes | but ppl told me it was much slower on cedega |
| 06:44.58 | Elive_user | you see my fstab line? |
| 06:44.59 | plunennes | but i don't know bout other solutions |
| 06:45.04 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 06:45.10 | Elive_user2 | Is there a way to access my windows files? if im dual booting? |
| 06:45.29 | Elive_user | I mean I am not a complete |
| 06:45.31 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, look in /mnt/hdaX |
| 06:45.41 | Elive_user | yeah what file system are you running in windows?? |
| 06:45.42 | Elive_user2 | Thanks |
| 06:45.49 | Elive_user2 | Found it. |
| 06:46.31 | Elive_user | I amnot a newb to linux...but this has got me frustrated |
| 06:46.40 | LinuxNIT | i understand |
| 06:46.54 | Elive_user | (no where near an expert either..lol) |
| 06:47.02 | LinuxNIT | not tying to make ya feel noob but i dunno what you know or waht youve done |
| 06:47.14 | Elive_user | ohh no i was not saying that |
| 06:47.19 | Elive_user | i was just expressing my confusion |
| 06:47.20 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 06:47.23 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 06:47.23 | Elive_user | sorry to make you think that |
| 06:47.29 | LinuxNIT | lol np |
| 06:47.45 | Elive_user | I think i will come in here more often |
| 06:47.48 | LinuxNIT | try mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom as root |
| 06:47.51 | Elive_user | good source of info |
| 06:48.45 | Elive_user | hmm says no medium found |
| 06:49.05 | Elive_user | really strange |
| 06:49.09 | Elive_user2 | Any way to turn off this mouse over window focus stuff? |
| 06:49.12 | LinuxNIT | you do have a cd in it right ? |
| 06:49.13 | LinuxNIT | jk |
| 06:49.18 | Elive_user | lol |
| 06:49.19 | Elive_user | nice |
| 06:49.35 | LinuxNIT | focus or raise ? |
| 06:49.41 | Elive_user | come on mount cd...mount cd...ohhhh you have to have a cd ...gothca |
| 06:49.48 | Elive_user | lol |
| 06:49.50 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:49.56 | LinuxNIT | sorry i couldnt resist |
| 06:50.02 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, focus or raise ? |
| 06:50.09 | Elive_user2 | Raise, sorry |
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| 06:50.12 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 06:50.19 | Elive_user2 | bloody anooyyyyinggg |
| 06:50.33 | Elive_user | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:50.47 | LinuxNIT | desktop menu> configuration > configpanel > window manipulation settings |
| 06:50.52 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, i dunno |
| 06:50.53 | wasynyt | good morning everyone |
| 06:51.00 | LinuxNIT | morning |
| 06:51.04 | LinuxNIT | or night |
| 06:51.07 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:51.19 | Elive_user2 | Thanks LinuxNIT |
| 06:51.21 | wasynyt | Elive_user, please change your nick.. and check if you have such device as /dev/cdrom |
| 06:51.24 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 06:52.12 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, yet if you put a dvd in it will work fine? |
| 06:52.38 | Elive_user | how do I change user?? |
| 06:52.44 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.46 | Elive_user2 | ./nick Name |
| 06:52.49 | Elive_user2 | dang you |
| 06:52.52 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:52.52 | Elive_user2 | fast typer :P |
| 06:52.56 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:53.03 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user2, you should do it aswell |
| 06:53.06 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:53.18 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:53.20 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:53.21 | LinuxNIT | nice nick |
| 06:53.24 | musashieb | if I put a DVD in auto mount will not work but I can mount the dvd |
| 06:53.27 | NoName | too tired to think of one ;) |
| 06:53.47 | musashieb | and yes I do have the dvice /dev/cdrom..sorry did not mean to ignore your question |
| 06:54.16 | musashieb | no one else has seen this? |
| 06:54.31 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, saw but has to do homework |
| 06:54.37 | LinuxNIT | and me thats it |
| 06:54.47 | wasynyt | musashieb, good.. i have problem with current kernel... i dont have my dvd drive recognised.. so i asked it :/ |
| 06:54.50 | LinuxNIT | unless people are lurking |
| 06:54.57 | musashieb | the only other thing i have done recently is scp a file and ssh into the system the other day |
| 06:55.14 | wasynyt | that should not break anything |
| 06:55.18 | musashieb | I know |
| 06:55.31 | musashieb | but thats the only other thing i have done other then run updates |
| 06:55.46 | LinuxNIT | what kernel? |
| 06:55.53 | wasynyt | hmm elive update scan do odd things at times |
| 06:56.09 | musashieb | yeah i figured thats where the problem is |
| 06:56.12 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT, the standart 2.6.12? |
| 06:56.30 | musashieb | yeah i am running the 2.6.12 |
| 06:56.35 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 06:56.46 | LinuxNIT | maybe try installin 2.6.15 |
| 06:56.49 | musashieb | I have not compiled a new kernal |
| 06:56.53 | musashieb | hmm |
| 06:56.59 | LinuxNIT | you dont have to compile it |
| 06:57.02 | musashieb | yeah I could fo that |
| 06:57.11 | musashieb | didn't want to go that route though |
| 06:57.18 | LinuxNIT | its not hard |
| 06:57.22 | wasynyt | well i have to first get my networking to work.. musashieb you can do it with .deb |
| 06:57.22 | musashieb | no I know |
| 06:57.32 | wasynyt | no source things |
| 06:57.47 | musashieb | with my slack installationa and my debian server i have had to do it |
| 06:57.52 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 06:57.54 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 06:58.12 | wasynyt | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/HowtoInstallKernel |
| 06:58.20 | musashieb | lol |
| 06:58.23 | musashieb | no way man |
| 06:58.28 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:58.29 | musashieb | I am coming to you guys |
| 06:58.32 | GPLGeek | haha "your assignment was submitted at 10:59" Cutoff point was 11 |
| 06:58.37 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:58.39 | LinuxNIT | damn dude |
| 06:58.39 | GPLGeek | I got a 100% on the test |
| 06:58.40 | wasynyt | nice one :D |
| 06:58.45 | LinuxNIT | congrats |
| 06:58.45 | musashieb | lol |
| 06:58.47 | GPLGeek | and I DIDNT READ THE CHAPTER |
| 06:58.50 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:58.54 | LinuxNIT | subject? |
| 06:58.57 | wasynyt | what was it about |
| 06:59.05 | GPLGeek | LOL Windows stuff |
| 06:59.07 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:59.09 | wasynyt | :D |
| 06:59.10 | LinuxNIT | dolt |
| 06:59.15 | GPLGeek | I happen to be a certified windows tech |
| 06:59.18 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:59.23 | GPLGeek | and linux too |
| 06:59.25 | wasynyt | heh |
| 06:59.28 | LinuxNIT | and you didnt read the book |
| 06:59.30 | LinuxNIT | slacker |
| 06:59.33 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 06:59.47 | GPLGeek | Why would I waste my time |
| 06:59.51 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 06:59.52 | GPLGeek | Obviously I know the stuff |
| 07:00.00 | wasynyt | seems like it |
| 07:00.00 | GPLGeek | in fact I can prove most of this book wrong |
| 07:00.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:00.05 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 07:00.07 | wasynyt | ? |
| 07:00.22 | GPLGeek | "turn on your cpu" uhh doesnt that happen when you turn on your system |
| 07:00.30 | wasynyt | :D |
| 07:00.32 | GPLGeek | in the book it said you need to turn on your cpu before you start your computer |
| 07:00.41 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:00.51 | GPLGeek | I better find that |
| 07:00.54 | GPLGeek | I have a scanner now |
| 07:01.00 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:01.02 | wasynyt | i want to see it |
| 07:01.05 | GPLGeek | No excuses for not showing people stupid stuff |
| 07:01.33 | GPLGeek | this book is thousands of pages long |
| 07:01.41 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, what does Elive use for automounting devices? |
| 07:02.04 | GPLGeek | Thana has some scripts that work with devfs |
| 07:02.13 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 07:02.24 | GPLGeek | IE make wine run windows cds |
| 07:02.48 | LinuxNIT | musashieb, automount quit working after updating |
| 07:02.53 | musashieb | yeah |
| 07:03.05 | musashieb | before was working great..I was impressed |
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| 07:04.21 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user |
| 07:04.31 | Elive_user | to the person that wanted to kno about wine with guild wars, no it doesnt. After you login its a black screen |
| 07:04.42 | NoName | forgot to change name in the settings :P |
| 07:04.47 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:04.53 | wasynyt | :D |
| 07:04.53 | GPLGeek | bleh I cant find it |
| 07:04.58 | GPLGeek | I'll find it later |
| 07:05.07 | GPLGeek | I was in the middle of helping somone lol |
| 07:05.12 | LinuxNIT | plunennes, was the one NoName |
| 07:05.23 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 07:07.40 | musashieb | si 2.6.15 stable?? |
| 07:08.02 | LinuxNIT | im runnig it |
| 07:08.14 | LinuxNIT | weill im on 2.6.15-k7 ;) |
| 07:08.22 | LinuxNIT | so far no problems |
| 07:08.38 | LinuxNIT | but if it dont work you can always boot 2.6.12 again |
| 07:08.41 | musashieb | hmm if I remember correctly i think that 2.6.12 is the current stable version |
| 07:08.45 | musashieb | true that |
| 07:08.56 | LinuxNIT | elive is debian etch |
| 07:09.01 | LinuxNIT | etch/testing |
| 07:09.10 | LinuxNIT | yet mine works fine |
| 07:09.14 | wasynyt | + thanas hacks |
| 07:09.22 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:09.36 | wasynyt | thos could do quite a bit :D |
| 07:09.42 | musashieb | well its getting late |
| 07:09.46 | musashieb | thanks for all the hlep |
| 07:09.54 | wasynyt | your welcome |
| 07:09.56 | musashieb | i will check back with you guys |
| 07:10.00 | musashieb | night |
| 07:10.01 | LinuxNIT | yw |
| 07:10.05 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 07:10.05 | wasynyt | night |
| 07:10.27 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, did you eve try kernel 2.6.15? |
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| 07:11.06 | LinuxNIT | welcome Elive_user |
| 07:11.07 | wasynyt | i cant install it as i would need netwrking to do it.. but i cant get networking to work without dvd drive |
| 07:11.28 | NoName | This isnt good, my demo key is expired |
| 07:11.30 | wasynyt | :S |
| 07:11.39 | LinuxNIT | why cant you get networking with out dvd? |
| 07:11.52 | wasynyt | i need windows driver package |
| 07:12.03 | LinuxNIT | usb drive? |
| 07:12.08 | wasynyt | dont have |
| 07:12.13 | LinuxNIT | for wifi? |
| 07:12.16 | wasynyt | yes |
| 07:12.20 | LinuxNIT | ah |
| 07:12.25 | wasynyt | buffalo propietary crap |
| 07:12.32 | LinuxNIT | dude |
| 07:12.35 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 07:13.00 | LinuxNIT | cant you hard wire it? |
| 07:13.05 | wasynyt | ? |
| 07:13.11 | LinuxNIT | lan cable |
| 07:13.36 | wasynyt | ahh.. i could but i dont want to stars carrying it around |
| 07:13.54 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 07:14.26 | wasynyt | well it is not my number one priority to get it working.. that comp serves os windows gaming platform |
| 07:14.28 | GPLGeek | ok I just helped this guy who seemed really crazy |
| 07:14.40 | GPLGeek | the way he was talking to me |
| 07:14.51 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, it is dual booting? |
| 07:14.54 | wasynyt | yes |
| 07:15.05 | GPLGeek | I think the hex warped his mind |
| 07:15.06 | LinuxNIT | you have wifi in the other os? |
| 07:15.14 | wasynyt | i do |
| 07:15.16 | GPLGeek | hardware programmers get a little nutty sometimes |
| 07:15.35 | LinuxNIT | why not download it there then in elive suck it off that partition? |
| 07:15.48 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, lol |
| 07:16.00 | wasynyt | i dont know where windows sticks its driver files |
| 07:16.24 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, just download the driver from the manufactures site |
| 07:16.36 | LinuxNIT | they should have it up |
| 07:17.03 | LinuxNIT | sorry i might be pushing this too far |
| 07:17.04 | wasynyt | hmm... i think i try that... and i have the driver package allready downloaded.. from dell :S |
| 07:17.18 | LinuxNIT | that should work |
| 07:17.31 | LinuxNIT | just grab it off the windows partition |
| 07:17.41 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT, i wont be offended.. lets i will go and try... i'll be back |
| 07:17.51 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 07:18.03 | LinuxNIT | i tend to push things like that |
| 07:18.04 | LinuxNIT | .... |
| 07:18.14 | LinuxNIT | when i think there is a way i just keep pushing lol |
| 07:18.19 | LinuxNIT | its a bad habit |
| 07:18.42 | wasynyt | :S |
| 07:19.38 | LinuxNIT | thing is i just do it cause i wanna help them but they dont always see it that way :< |
| 07:20.24 | wasynyt | some times things just have to be told with force to get people try them |
| 07:21.35 | wasynyt | cd burned.. wish me luck |
| 07:21.41 | LinuxNIT | yeah but then some people think your insulting their intellignce by insisting your right and they are wrong |
| 07:21.49 | LinuxNIT | good luck |
| 07:22.54 | LinuxNIT | which im not doin but |
| 07:23.02 | LinuxNIT | im rambling |
| 07:23.07 | LinuxNIT | ill shut up |
| 07:25.11 | LinuxNIT | apt autoraise |
| 07:27.30 | LinuxNIT | apt, autoraise is changed by going to Desktop menu > Configuration > Configuration panel > Window Manipulatoin settings > Automatically raise windows on mouse over |
| 07:27.31 | apt | okay, LinuxNIT |
| 07:27.36 | LinuxNIT | apt autoraise |
| 07:27.37 | apt | autoraise is, like, changed by going to Desktop menu > Configuration > Configuration panel > Window Manipulatoin settings > Automatically raise windows on mouse over |
| 07:28.33 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, now that i have done it :) is it ok if i add to apts commands like that? |
| 07:28.57 | GPLGeek | My windows school computer just crashed |
| 07:29.13 | LinuxNIT | dang |
| 07:29.23 | LinuxNIT | darn windows |
| 07:29.23 | GPLGeek | It's funny |
| 07:29.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:29.31 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, now that i have done it :) is it ok if i add to apts commands like that? |
| 07:29.32 | GPLGeek | explorer.exe |
| 07:30.03 | GPLGeek | LinuxNIT, um... heh. |
| 07:30.10 | LinuxNIT | should i not? |
| 07:30.13 | GPLGeek | I never had much luck modding that window settings |
| 07:30.22 | GPLGeek | Try it |
| 07:30.28 | LinuxNIT | really? |
| 07:30.30 | GPLGeek | that's one of e's problems |
| 07:30.42 | LinuxNIT | ive done it and so have tones of people i told how to |
| 07:31.06 | GPLGeek | well sometiems it flips out |
| 07:31.13 | GPLGeek | nothing harmful |
| 07:31.36 | *** join/#elive shadoi (n=shadoi@129.219.152.116) |
| 07:31.40 | LinuxNIT | i couldnt stand the autorasie so i turned it off |
| 07:31.51 | GPLGeek | I hate it too |
| 07:32.04 | LinuxNIT | lots of people feel the same way so i thought id add it to apt so i dont have to type it all the time |
| 07:32.05 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 07:32.28 | LinuxNIT | but if i shouldnt be adding to apt thats fine i just wanted to know |
| 07:32.45 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 07:32.49 | GPLGeek | its fine |
| 07:32.51 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 07:32.51 | GPLGeek | it should work |
| 07:33.08 | GPLGeek | for some people it makes windows below the current elected window pop in and out |
| 07:33.19 | GPLGeek | but I think a apt-get update and upgrade would fix it |
| 07:33.24 | LinuxNIT | haveing it enabled? |
| 07:33.40 | GPLGeek | having changed it |
| 07:33.41 | GPLGeek | it's odd |
| 07:33.46 | LinuxNIT | oh wired |
| 07:33.49 | LinuxNIT | wierd |
| 07:34.11 | GPLGeek | but in general that's going to work |
| 07:34.21 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 07:34.57 | NoName | is this using the find command correctly? find / amsn amsn is a folder, |
| 07:35.56 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 07:36.03 | NoName | finding a folder |
| 07:36.09 | NoName | in the / directory |
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| 07:39.17 | LinuxNIT | NoName, did that work? |
| 07:39.21 | GPLGeek | whereis amsn |
| 07:39.38 | NoName | Didnt find it, Probably not even there |
| 07:39.49 | NoName | probably different name sence it came with eLive |
| 07:39.59 | NoName | Oh yeah whereis, forgot about that thanks |
| 07:41.08 | NoName | ty Gpl |
| 07:42.19 | GPLGeek | you can also look it up using apt |
| 07:42.44 | wasynyt | as root modprobe ndiswrapper |
| 07:42.59 | wasynyt | fatal: module ndiswrapper not found |
| 07:43.08 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 07:43.08 | LinuxNIT | ack |
| 07:43.31 | LinuxNIT | you need to get the ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.12 package :< |
| 07:43.40 | LinuxNIT | soorrry i totally forgot that |
| 07:43.47 | wasynyt | give me the download link for it |
| 07:44.10 | LinuxNIT | hmm should be on debian.org |
| 07:44.47 | wasynyt | lets see |
| 07:45.15 | LinuxNIT | looking |
| 07:45.52 | NoName | Are linux fonts same as windows? |
| 07:46.55 | GPLGeek | you can get windows ttf fonts for linux |
| 07:47.08 | GPLGeek | but linux generally has compatible and more fonts than windows |
| 07:48.04 | NoName | was looking for a font like arial |
| 07:48.55 | GPLGeek | ya we have that |
| 07:49.26 | NoName | ooh |
| 07:49.52 | GPLGeek | open up openoffice writer and check out some fonts |
| 07:50.04 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, did yo find it? |
| 07:50.07 | GPLGeek | you will see that openoffice.org can do everything ms office can do but is a simple program |
| 07:50.28 | GPLGeek | no need for a PHD in word to use a word processor anymore |
| 07:50.29 | NoName | yeah was looking, on amsn the fonts are so ruff and big |
| 07:50.41 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, ? |
| 07:51.00 | wasynyt | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?exact=0&searchon=names&suite=all&case=insensitive§ion=all&keywords=ndiswrapper&arch=any |
| 07:51.02 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 07:51.03 | GPLGeek | I dont use amsn to know what it's configure options are like |
| 07:51.31 | LinuxNIT | yeah i foound the same thing but it is in apt |
| 07:51.34 | LinuxNIT | so.... |
| 07:51.48 | LinuxNIT | i have the .deb in my archives do you want it? |
| 07:51.57 | wasynyt | yes.. |
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| 07:52.13 | GPLGeek | my dvd rom is going bad |
| 07:53.08 | NoName | not good |
| 07:53.17 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, accept it |
| 07:53.23 | GPLGeek | I got it free |
| 07:53.32 | GPLGeek | I'll probably get another |
| 07:53.32 | wasynyt | hmm it does not want to |
| 07:53.36 | GPLGeek | or have another |
| 07:53.46 | LinuxNIT | k ill webserver it |
| 07:54.20 | wasynyt | or you may send it to my gmail account |
| 07:54.21 | LinuxNIT | www.arnoldgotsobe.com/david/ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.12_1.1-4+1.04_i386.deb |
| 07:54.26 | LinuxNIT | that should be it |
| 07:55.08 | LinuxNIT | get it? |
| 07:55.17 | wasynyt | i think so |
| 07:55.28 | LinuxNIT | and i assume you knwo how to install .debs |
| 07:55.32 | wasynyt | anything else i need for it |
| 07:55.38 | GPLGeek | dpkg -i name.deb |
| 07:55.41 | LinuxNIT | i dont think so |
| 07:55.46 | wasynyt | good |
| 07:56.09 | LinuxNIT | but im not sure cause i installed with apt |
| 07:56.14 | LinuxNIT | :-/ |
| 07:56.23 | GPLGeek | did he apt-get update |
| 07:56.26 | wasynyt | ok will se.. more rebooting on the way |
| 07:56.28 | LinuxNIT | he cant |
| 07:56.33 | GPLGeek | oh |
| 07:56.33 | LinuxNIT | no network |
| 07:56.34 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 07:56.48 | wasynyt | cursed buffalo wlan |
| 07:56.49 | GPLGeek | my brain isnt working |
| 07:56.57 | LinuxNIT | thats we are gettin wigi is so he can have networking |
| 07:56.58 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 07:57.04 | LinuxNIT | wigi=wifi |
| 07:57.05 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:57.29 | GPLGeek | My computer accidently looks cool |
| 07:57.34 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:57.36 | GPLGeek | I just built one based on parts and quality |
| 07:57.43 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 07:57.47 | GPLGeek | they happen to look good |
| 07:57.53 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 07:57.59 | GPLGeek | my other computers look like tanks |
| 07:58.15 | LinuxNIT | lol mines about to fall apart |
| 07:58.24 | LinuxNIT | piece of shit |
| 07:58.25 | GPLGeek | what do you need for it |
| 07:58.35 | LinuxNIT | its a laptop |
| 07:58.43 | GPLGeek | easiest thing ever is working on hardware |
| 07:59.05 | LinuxNIT | screen dont stay up too will. and charger connection is scetchy |
| 07:59.16 | LinuxNIT | sketchy |
| 07:59.24 | LinuxNIT | or w/e |
| 07:59.49 | LinuxNIT | plus right mouse pad button dont work half the time |
| 08:00.10 | LinuxNIT | and the case is separating on the front lol |
| 08:00.16 | LinuxNIT | but it keeps on running |
| 08:00.39 | GPLGeek | I doubt I have money for a new dvd writer |
| 08:00.42 | LinuxNIT | like i said its a piece of shit |
| 08:00.53 | LinuxNIT | that sucks man |
| 08:01.25 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, any chance the 0.5 will have apm enalbed in the kernel? |
| 08:01.49 | GPLGeek | Maybe |
| 08:01.54 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 08:03.14 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT, my laptops ide controller has gone mad :/ and windows started anti-something scan so i will leave it to do its magic |
| 08:03.52 | LinuxNIT | ight |
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| 08:05.59 | NoName | does eLive come with a torrent downloader? |
| 08:06.06 | wasynyt | nope |
| 08:06.34 | LinuxNIT | but you can apt-get one :> |
| 08:06.34 | Kishe | you can get one with apt tough |
| 08:06.35 | wasynyt | isntal azureus & java if you have lots of ram |
| 08:06.55 | NoName | whats the apt-get command? |
| 08:06.56 | GPLGeek | I like azureus but you can also apt-get install bittorrent too |
| 08:07.17 | wasynyt | azureus eats ram :/ |
| 08:07.27 | GPLGeek | It's not bad |
| 08:07.35 | wasynyt | and sometimes rapes harddrive |
| 08:07.48 | wasynyt | GPLGeek, 200-300 meg |
| 08:07.49 | LinuxNIT | NoName, apt-cache search torrent(or anything you want to serach for) |
| 08:07.52 | GPLGeek | for as much speed as it gives you and control vs the other programs |
| 08:07.57 | GPLGeek | 300 meg? wtf |
| 08:07.58 | LinuxNIT | then apt-get install package name |
| 08:08.06 | GPLGeek | Mine runs at under 50 meg |
| 08:08.12 | GPLGeek | and that's with many torrents |
| 08:08.15 | LinuxNIT | NoName, or you can launch synaptic and do it from a gui |
| 08:08.28 | Kishe | something wrong with your system if its eating 300meg |
| 08:08.49 | wasynyt | well everythings is wrong with my system as I use it |
| 08:09.04 | GPLGeek | Ahh a classic Pebkac |
| 08:09.21 | GPLGeek | Don't worry you will get better |
| 08:09.28 | wasynyt | i dont think so |
| 08:09.35 | GPLGeek | why not |
| 08:10.11 | GPLGeek | I used to be a noob |
| 08:10.24 | LinuxNIT | nooooo |
| 08:10.26 | GPLGeek | and now I'm a super noob with super cow powers. |
| 08:10.30 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:10.42 | GPLGeek | apt-get moo |
| 08:11.12 | wasynyt | GPLGeek, well its not that i am a noob... i just 'use' computers so that they will hang.. i truy t odo everything at the same time |
| 08:11.19 | LinuxNIT | apt-get moo or apt-get install moo? |
| 08:11.21 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 08:11.36 | GPLGeek | rtfm |
| 08:11.43 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:12.23 | LinuxNIT | apt-cache search dosent show a moo :< |
| 08:12.39 | wasynyt | GPLGeek, on windows i have broken direcX graphics & sound.. windows Xp automounter.. etc :S |
| 08:12.55 | LinuxNIT | moo is not in man apt-get |
| 08:13.11 | wasynyt | LinuxNIT, still scanning |
| 08:13.12 | GPLGeek | type apt-get moo and hit enter fool |
| 08:13.21 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:13.25 | GPLGeek | It's important |
| 08:13.32 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:13.33 | LinuxNIT | nice |
| 08:13.47 | LinuxNIT | well you said rtfm and it wasn in tfm |
| 08:13.48 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 08:14.27 | GPLGeek | you wer reading the nub manual |
| 08:14.46 | wasynyt | nub manual? |
| 08:15.09 | LinuxNIT | no i searched it :> |
| 08:15.37 | GPLGeek | nüb manual |
| 08:16.05 | rookmoot | fuckin' algorythms ! |
| 08:16.17 | GPLGeek | rookmoot, what algorythms |
| 08:16.19 | *** join/#elive Elive_user72 (n=Elive_us@port0002-abm-adsl.cwjamaica.com) |
| 08:16.32 | rookmoot | programmation rulz :) |
| 08:16.33 | GPLGeek | I took advanced data structure and complex algorithms class once |
| 08:16.54 | rookmoot | a package manager search function |
| 08:16.58 | rookmoot | fucking it :) |
| 08:17.05 | rookmoot | dat : /usr/pops/packages/gcc-3.8.ops |
| 08:17.05 | rookmoot | dat : /usr/pops/packages/gcc-4.0.ops |
| 08:17.05 | rookmoot | dat : /usr/pops/packages/othergccpackage-4.5.3.ops |
| 08:17.05 | rookmoot | dat : /usr/pops/packages/othergccpackage-4.5.5.ops |
| 08:17.12 | rookmoot | need to separe that string |
| 08:17.20 | rookmoot | in two branches :) |
| 08:17.25 | rookmoot | gcc-* |
| 08:17.33 | rookmoot | othergccpackage-* |
| 08:18.04 | GPLGeek | fun |
| 08:18.09 | rookmoot | you said ? :p |
| 08:18.24 | rookmoot | regexp :s |
| 08:18.43 | GPLGeek | I make b-trees as a hobby |
| 08:18.55 | rookmoot | b-trees? |
| 08:18.57 | GPLGeek | They call them b-trees because they sting |
| 08:18.59 | GPLGeek | =) |
| 08:19.15 | rookmoot | ha ok |
| 08:19.39 | GPLGeek | http://math.hws.edu/eck/cs225/s03/binary_trees/ |
| 08:19.41 | rookmoot | regexp is the better way i've to take to make a proper parsing ? |
| 08:20.17 | GPLGeek | easier than gardening |
| 08:20.48 | GPLGeek | Honestly I have not done much programming in 2 years lol |
| 08:21.02 | GPLGeek | I'm totally out of touch with compiled languages |
| 08:21.29 | *** join/#elive wasynyt_ (n=Elive_us@dyn28-192.adsl.mpynet.fi) |
| 08:21.38 | wasynyt_ | its working |
| 08:21.40 | wasynyt_ | :D |
| 08:21.45 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 08:21.46 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 08:21.54 | *** join/#elive Elive_user (n=Elive_us@kielmuutpc196.uta.fi) |
| 08:21.59 | LinuxNIT | now you can try the new kernel |
| 08:22.01 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 08:22.06 | GPLGeek | lol |
| 08:22.35 | Kishe | how do i kill the double modules without killing whole e17? |
| 08:22.54 | LinuxNIT | ofcourse wasynyt_ ..... |
| 08:23.14 | LinuxNIT | in 2.6.15 ndiswrapper wont work |
| 08:23.22 | GPLGeek | sure it does |
| 08:23.26 | LinuxNIT | so you might install ndiswrapper-source |
| 08:23.31 | GPLGeek | you need to compile the kernel module |
| 08:23.35 | LinuxNIT | not immediately |
| 08:23.40 | GPLGeek | include the kernel-headers |
| 08:23.43 | GPLGeek | it's easy |
| 08:23.53 | LinuxNIT | right he has to compile the source |
| 08:23.53 | wasynyt_ | hmm sounds interesting |
| 08:24.06 | LinuxNIT | so he need to get everything before he boots 2.6.15 |
| 08:24.29 | LinuxNIT | cause once he is in .15 he wont have internet |
| 08:24.45 | wasynyt_ | :( |
| 08:24.56 | LinuxNIT | its not hard |
| 08:25.12 | wasynyt_ | new nvidia driver install |
| 08:25.14 | LinuxNIT | install the source and the header files |
| 08:25.15 | wasynyt_ | ? |
| 08:25.49 | LinuxNIT | GPLGeek, he uses module-assistant for that right? |
| 08:26.00 | wasynyt_ | it wants to install it at least |
| 08:26.41 | GPLGeek | he can |
| 08:26.51 | GPLGeek | bleh |
| 08:26.54 | GPLGeek | thunder storms |
| 08:27.01 | GPLGeek | I wanted to finish downloading this dvd |
| 08:27.05 | GPLGeek | power flickering |
| 08:27.10 | LinuxNIT | not good |
| 08:27.34 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt_, you can use module assistant to help you compile the modules |
| 08:27.44 | LinuxNIT | but youll have to install it as well |
| 08:27.56 | wasynyt_ | it has chosen it as well |
| 08:28.17 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 08:28.34 | wasynyt_ | this will take awhile for me to download all the stuf i want |
| 08:29.04 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 08:29.27 | wasynyt_ | how do i start entangle.. i want to try if it works |
| 08:29.42 | wasynyt_ | in terminal? |
| 08:29.43 | LinuxNIT | entangle from the cli |
| 08:29.50 | wasynyt_ | ? |
| 08:29.59 | LinuxNIT | entangle from the cli/terminal |
| 08:30.09 | LinuxNIT | cli=command line interface |
| 08:30.20 | wasynyt_ | wrong app |
| 08:30.25 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:30.28 | wasynyt_ | the other panel |
| 08:30.31 | wasynyt_ | hmm.. |
| 08:30.32 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 08:30.38 | LinuxNIT | erme? |
| 08:30.40 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 08:30.45 | wasynyt_ | mac os imitation |
| 08:30.49 | LinuxNIT | engange? |
| 08:30.53 | LinuxNIT | engage |
| 08:30.54 | wasynyt_ | yes |
| 08:31.15 | LinuxNIT | e16 or e17? |
| 08:31.35 | wasynyt_ | if i run it from terminal it looks like crap.. e17 |
| 08:31.53 | LinuxNIT | thats cuase in e17 you have to use the module |
| 08:32.09 | LinuxNIT | engage module and engage app are totally separate |
| 08:32.21 | blizzard_ | help |
| 08:32.24 | blizzard_ | upgradet e17 |
| 08:32.27 | wasynyt_ | its not in my module list |
| 08:32.30 | blizzard_ | got double of all the modules |
| 08:32.34 | wasynyt_ | blizzard_, elive 0.4 |
| 08:32.38 | wasynyt_ | or 0.4.2 |
| 08:32.42 | blizzard_ | and when I try to remove em, it crashes |
| 08:32.46 | blizzard_ | was: dunno, lemme see |
| 08:32.57 | LinuxNIT | shit i saw a thing on this the other day |
| 08:33.00 | blizzard_ | Version: cvs20060312 |
| 08:33.03 | LinuxNIT | apt double |
| 08:33.15 | LinuxNIT | apt doublemodule |
| 08:33.18 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 08:33.20 | blizzard_ | dont run elive, runs debian + elive repository |
| 08:33.45 | blizzard_ | i've tried to remove via the gui and via enlightenment_remote |
| 08:34.00 | blizzard_ | e17 crashes in both cases, and the module is still there |
| 08:34.07 | wasynyt_ | well elive 0.4 has bug in its reposities as modules will be broken if updated |
| 08:34.08 | blizzard_ | doesn't matter if i try to unload, disable or whatever |
| 08:34.16 | wasynyt_ | you may have the same |
| 08:34.55 | wasynyt_ | modules are not up to date any more as they have lost their priority |
| 08:35.24 | Smjor|Work | What has priority, then? |
| 08:35.55 | LinuxNIT | http://edevelop.org/node/2347 <<<<< is this your problem blizzard_ |
| 08:36.33 | blizzard_ | yes (+ mattery, temp and ghz meter)) |
| 08:36.46 | LinuxNIT | try what it says to do |
| 08:36.50 | LinuxNIT | thats all i know |
| 08:37.42 | Smjor|Work | If he doesn't use elive, he doesn't have elpanel to upgrade settings... |
| 08:37.45 | wasynyt_ | basics... i think that e devs are trying to make e17 more stable |
| 08:37.46 | wasynyt_ | ihave a fealing that soon my elive install is going to go mad :S |
| 08:38.47 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, lol |
| 08:39.10 | Smjor|Work | wasynyt_, e17 as _wm_ IS pretty stable, and has been for some time. I thought they were focusing on making the modules work? |
| 08:39.14 | blizzard_ | worked, tnx! |
| 08:39.15 | wasynyt_ | i got so many unfished downloads that i aborted |
| 08:39.21 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 08:39.24 | Smjor|Work | nice |
| 08:39.48 | wasynyt_ | Smjor|Work, i dont have any true info.. that was just my guess :D |
| 08:40.17 | LinuxNIT | apt doublemodules is it COULD be fixed with >> http://edevelop.org/node/2347 |
| 08:40.19 | apt | okay, LinuxNIT |
| 08:40.24 | LinuxNIT | apt doublemodules |
| 08:40.26 | apt | doublemodules is, like, it COULD be fixed with >> http://edevelop.org/node/2347 |
| 08:40.37 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 08:41.00 | wasynyt_ | now it goes better |
| 08:41.05 | Smjor|Work | :-) |
| 08:41.14 | Smjor|Work | apt tripplemodules |
| 08:41.20 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:44.41 | LinuxNIT | apt forget doublemodules |
| 08:44.41 | apt | i forgot doublemodules, LinuxNIT |
| 08:45.18 | LinuxNIT | apt doublemodules is its listed here >>>http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ |
| 08:45.19 | apt | okay, LinuxNIT |
| 08:45.30 | Smjor|Work | apt apt |
| 08:45.32 | apt | methinks apt is the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. an infobot, the same instance of a blootbot as ibot, jbot, and purl |
| 08:48.42 | blizzard_ | was the old keybinding for changing desktop really ctrl+number? |
| 08:48.55 | wasynyt_ | yes |
| 08:49.04 | wasynyt_ | at least in kde |
| 08:49.09 | blizzard_ | 1~e17 |
| 08:49.32 | blizzard_ | not alt+number |
| 08:49.33 | blizzard_ | ? |
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| 08:50.02 | wasynyt_ | alt + number seems to work |
| 08:50.12 | wasynyt_ | on elive 0.4.2 e17 |
| 08:52.11 | LinuxNIT | on mine its alt + F1 or F2 etc |
| 08:52.48 | wasynyt_ | hmm thats what i meant.. damn i am in my thoughts to day |
| 08:54.48 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, are you 16? |
| 08:55.08 | wasynyt_ | 18.. driver lisence age in finland is 18 |
| 08:55.28 | LinuxNIT | oh wow |
| 08:55.43 | wasynyt_ | :D |
| 08:56.18 | LinuxNIT | in some states here in the USA you can get a learners permit at 14 |
| 08:56.35 | wasynyt_ | o_0 |
| 08:56.40 | LinuxNIT | but no license till 16 |
| 08:57.24 | wasynyt_ | oh well... one litre of gas cost here around 1.2 euro |
| 08:57.50 | LinuxNIT | lol that dosent make much sense to me lol |
| 08:57.58 | wasynyt_ | :D |
| 08:58.03 | LinuxNIT | we go my dollars per gallon |
| 08:58.04 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 08:58.35 | plunennes | yes because us does not care for the environment |
| 08:58.35 | wasynyt_ | 1 US gallon = 3.7854118 litre |
| 08:59.01 | wasynyt_ | 1 Euro = 1.2177 U.S. dollar |
| 08:59.18 | wasynyt_ | :S |
| 08:59.21 | LinuxNIT | plunennes, what does the USA using dollars per gallon have to do with the environment? |
| 08:59.38 | plunennes | lol |
| 08:59.40 | plunennes | not that |
| 08:59.43 | plunennes | but the cheap price |
| 08:59.54 | plunennes | low taxes |
| 08:59.55 | wasynyt_ | lower taxes |
| 09:00.15 | wasynyt_ | 1 min left |
| 09:00.42 | LinuxNIT | i dunno but i dontconsider $2.40 /gallon cheap but thats me |
| 09:00.54 | wasynyt_ | 1,2 Euro = 1,46124 U.S. dollar |
| 09:01.04 | LinuxNIT | and places like california are even more |
| 09:01.08 | wasynyt_ | for one litre |
| 09:01.31 | wasynyt_ | E: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-2.6.15-1-686_2.6.15-8_i386.deb: subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 |
| 09:01.45 | wasynyt_ | wtf :/ |
| 09:01.47 | LinuxNIT | !!!!!!!? |
| 09:02.40 | LinuxNIT | uhhhhhhhhhh |
| 09:02.45 | wasynyt_ | wha tnext.. i will click ok or ? |
| 09:02.56 | LinuxNIT | whats it asking? |
| 09:03.14 | wasynyt_ | it just say error noticed that and ok |
| 09:03.43 | LinuxNIT | ok i guess |
| 09:03.51 | LinuxNIT | ive never seen that |
| 09:03.53 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 09:04.20 | wasynyt_ | :s |
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| 09:04.49 | LinuxNIT | now what did it do? |
| 09:05.09 | wasynyt_ | i tryed to install it again and the install halted |
| 09:05.32 | LinuxNIT | like froze? |
| 09:05.35 | wasynyt_ | i have a truly bad feeling about this |
| 09:05.49 | wasynyt_ | yes. synaptic does nothing at the moment |
| 09:06.06 | LinuxNIT | juts wait |
| 09:06.15 | LinuxNIT | sometimes synaptic takes a while |
| 09:06.20 | wasynyt_ | it does nothing |
| 09:06.41 | LinuxNIT | for installing and synaptic as a serach tool |
| 09:06.48 | wasynyt_ | i dont.. gui are nice.. they offer more info on one look.. |
| 09:06.51 | LinuxNIT | but thats my personal pref |
| 09:06.58 | LinuxNIT | sometimes |
| 09:07.01 | wasynyt_ | im going to kill ti |
| 09:07.03 | wasynyt_ | *it |
| 09:07.50 | LinuxNIT | in synaptics case yes it does for searching but not all programs work this way |
| 09:08.06 | LinuxNIT | you tend to get better error reports from a command line |
| 09:08.07 | wasynyt_ | true |
| 09:09.04 | wasynyt_ | restart |
| 09:09.06 | wasynyt_ | -> |
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| 09:10.40 | Elive_user | guh steam wont run with wine, why me |
| 09:10.58 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 09:11.14 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, i THINK it will but dont quote me |
| 09:11.28 | LinuxNIT | i think i heard them get it working in #winehq |
| 09:11.38 | Elive_user | Yeah, seen people running it. I cant even get to the login screen |
| 09:11.45 | Elive_user | eLive come with newest wine? |
| 09:11.52 | LinuxNIT | id ask in #winehq |
| 09:12.13 | LinuxNIT | unless somebody jumps in in here |
| 09:12.28 | LinuxNIT | but i dont know a whole lot about wine :-/ |
| 09:12.40 | LinuxNIT | sorry |
| 09:13.02 | Elive_user | ha thanks |
| 09:13.42 | blizzard_ | 2~2~argh |
| 09:13.45 | blizzard_ | argh |
| 09:13.48 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 09:14.00 | blizzard_ | cant get my pussy-wheel working as it shouöd' |
| 09:14.02 | blizzard_ | should |
| 09:14.23 | blizzard_ | when i use the clitoris upwards, in a free space at the desktop, I want to go +1 desktop |
| 09:14.40 | blizzard_ | and when i scroll downwards, i wanna go -1 desktop |
| 09:15.27 | LinuxNIT | oh |
| 09:15.38 | wasynyt_ | LinuxNIT, what next.. i think i got it installed |
| 09:15.48 | LinuxNIT | think? |
| 09:16.29 | wasynyt_ | i havent tryed it yet... put in synaptic it shows as installed |
| 09:16.53 | LinuxNIT | what did you do after the reboot? |
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| 09:17.33 | wasynyt_ | how do i add it to boot menu.. i cant do i tfrom elpanels tool |
| 09:17.40 | LinuxNIT | what did you do after the reboot? |
| 09:18.06 | wasynyt_ | i havent rebooted yet.. that image needs to added to boot menu.. or so i think |
| 09:18.19 | LinuxNIT | yes it does |
| 09:18.33 | wasynyt_ | good :) how to do it |
| 09:18.37 | LinuxNIT | i thought you said you just rebooted? |
| 09:18.59 | wasynyt_ | where did i say i rebooted |
| 09:19.10 | LinuxNIT | ok restart |
| 09:19.32 | wasynyt_ | i didint restart/reboot kernel only e17/Xorg |
| 09:19.37 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 09:19.52 | LinuxNIT | ok then what did you do after the restart? |
| 09:20.23 | LinuxNIT | cause i have seen a package fail to install all the way and still have synaptic report it as installed |
| 09:20.32 | wasynyt_ | tryed again snaptic and reinstalled the 2.6.15 kernel |
| 09:20.39 | LinuxNIT | ok you reinstalled |
| 09:20.40 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 09:20.44 | wasynyt_ | :) |
| 09:20.50 | LinuxNIT | sorry just checking |
| 09:21.12 | LinuxNIT | did the ndis source and all the other stuff get installed as well? |
| 09:21.29 | wasynyt_ | nothing.. its good to be sure.. wait i check |
| 09:22.01 | wasynyt_ | i think so.. should i reinstall those too |
| 09:22.27 | LinuxNIT | i would just to be safe |
| 09:22.41 | LinuxNIT | it wont take long cause the .debs are alerady downloaded |
| 09:22.44 | wasynyt_ | i'do that |
| 09:23.18 | wasynyt_ | done |
| 09:23.21 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 09:23.36 | LinuxNIT | open a terminal :) |
| 09:23.45 | wasynyt_ | done |
| 09:23.47 | LinuxNIT | su |
| 09:23.54 | LinuxNIT | cd /boot |
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| 09:24.06 | wasynyt_ | done |
| 09:24.16 | LinuxNIT | ls |
| 09:24.21 | LinuxNIT | i want to see it |
| 09:24.26 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 09:24.35 | wasynyt_ | root@koti[/boot]# ls |
| 09:24.35 | wasynyt_ | config-2.6.11 initrd.img-2.6.15-1-686 vmlinuz |
| 09:24.35 | wasynyt_ | config-2.6.12 memtest vmlinuz-2.6.11 |
| 09:24.35 | wasynyt_ | config-2.6.15-1-686 System.map-2.6.11 vmlinuz-2.6.12 |
| 09:24.35 | wasynyt_ | grub System.map-2.6.12 vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 09:24.36 | wasynyt_ | initrd.img-2.6.12 System.map-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 09:24.41 | LinuxNIT | yyou can paste it here the placeis dead |
| 09:24.43 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 09:24.44 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 09:24.52 | wasynyt_ | :) |
| 09:25.18 | LinuxNIT | scite grub/menu.lst |
| 09:25.48 | wasynyt_ | ok |
| 09:26.51 | LinuxNIT | ok go down to one line above the first one that syas title |
| 09:27.19 | LinuxNIT | makes some room for you then type ... |
| 09:27.32 | wasynyt_ | hmm |
| 09:27.49 | LinuxNIT | title Elive Linux 2.6.15 |
| 09:28.19 | LinuxNIT | got taht? |
| 09:28.28 | wasynyt_ | itle Elive GNU/Linux kernel 2.6.15 |
| 09:28.28 | wasynyt_ | root (hdo,1) |
| 09:28.28 | wasynyt_ | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686 root=/dev/sda2 vga=0x31A single |
| 09:28.28 | wasynyt_ | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 09:28.43 | LinuxNIT | almost |
| 09:28.49 | LinuxNIT | i see some typos |
| 09:28.57 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 09:29.03 | LinuxNIT | root (hdo,1) <<< |
| 09:29.05 | wasynyt_ | i am fixing those |
| 09:29.06 | LinuxNIT | hd0 |
| 09:29.07 | wasynyt_ | :D |
| 09:29.40 | wasynyt_ | some thing to eat -> i'll be back |
| 09:30.13 | LinuxNIT | those lines should be the same as the others except for the numbers following vmlinux and initrd.img |
| 09:30.50 | LinuxNIT | so root (hd0,1) is the same in your other entries as well? |
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| 09:39.39 | Kishe | wee, i finally managed to upgrade e17 without breaking anything |
| 09:39.48 | LinuxNIT | cool |
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| 09:40.36 | wasynyt_ | back |
| 09:40.51 | LinuxNIT | ok i found another problem |
| 09:40.52 | Kishe | hmm, the mounter module is gone tough... |
| 09:40.52 | wasynyt_ | yes all the others are supposed to be same |
| 09:40.53 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 09:41.07 | LinuxNIT | see the word single |
| 09:41.26 | LinuxNIT | that will make you boot in safe/single user mode |
| 09:42.06 | wasynyt_ | hmm what about it |
| 09:42.21 | LinuxNIT | that word single will make you boot in safe/single user mode |
| 09:42.31 | wasynyt_ | and that means? |
| 09:42.35 | LinuxNIT | delete it for normal boot |
| 09:42.51 | wasynyt_ | ok |
| 09:42.56 | wasynyt_ | done |
| 09:43.18 | LinuxNIT | part way thru the boot it will ask for a root pw and give you a command line in a limited environment |
| 09:43.26 | LinuxNIT | iirc |
| 09:43.31 | LinuxNIT | save it |
| 09:43.42 | LinuxNIT | paste it here with changes |
| 09:43.45 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 09:43.55 | wasynyt_ | how do i save anything during boot? |
| 09:44.01 | wasynyt_ | or will it stop |
| 09:44.07 | LinuxNIT | huh |
| 09:44.20 | LinuxNIT | save the file |
| 09:44.21 | wasynyt_ | nothing.. i will just rebiit |
| 09:44.24 | LinuxNIT | wait |
| 09:44.29 | LinuxNIT | let me see the entry |
| 09:44.34 | wasynyt_ | ? |
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| 09:44.53 | LinuxNIT | let me check it once more now that youve corrected it |
| 09:45.03 | wasynyt_ | title Elive GNU/Linux kernel 2.6.15 |
| 09:45.04 | wasynyt_ | root (hd0,1) |
| 09:45.04 | wasynyt_ | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-1-686 root=/dev/sda2 vga=0x31A |
| 09:45.04 | wasynyt_ | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.15-1-686 |
| 09:45.43 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 09:45.47 | LinuxNIT | looks good |
| 09:45.55 | LinuxNIT | to me any way :> |
| 09:46.13 | wasynyt_ | ok i try rebooting then |
| 09:46.28 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, youre still here right? |
| 09:50.56 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, ? |
| 09:56.14 | Kishe | whats special between 023 and 024...i notice localization... |
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| 09:57.33 | LinuxNIT | it work? |
| 09:57.47 | wasynyt_ | ok i can start that kernel.. but i cant start x in it |
| 09:57.59 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 09:58.08 | wasynyt_ | nvidia module not found .. |
| 09:58.16 | LinuxNIT | ohhhhh |
| 09:58.43 | Kishe | wasynyt, you upgraded kernel? |
| 09:58.56 | wasynyt_ | yah 2.6.15 |
| 09:59.03 | LinuxNIT | does elive have its own nvidiamodule? |
| 09:59.11 | wasynyt_ | dunno |
| 09:59.13 | LinuxNIT | or is it deb ethc |
| 09:59.15 | LinuxNIT | hmm |
| 09:59.27 | Kishe | you need to get newest nvidia kernel module too |
| 09:59.38 | Kishe | with apt |
| 09:59.43 | Kishe | i had same prob |
| 10:00.20 | wasynyt_ | hm |
| 10:01.18 | LinuxNIT | Kishe, do you still have the .deb in your archive? |
| 10:01.51 | wasynyt_ | i dunno |
| 10:02.19 | LinuxNIT | nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1-686 << this the one you need? |
| 10:02.22 | Thanatermesis | you* have all the modules and drivers in the "tests" branch of the repository |
| 10:03.11 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki <-- (bottom of the page) |
| 10:03.11 | Kishe | apt-cache search nvidia-kernel-2.6.15 |
| 10:03.32 | Kishe | Thanatermis never sleeps |
| 10:03.39 | Thanatermesis | me ? :) |
| 10:03.53 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt_, nvidia-kernel-2.6.15-1-686 << is this the one you need? |
| 10:04.03 | Thanatermesis | no |
| 10:04.06 | Kishe | Thanatermesis never sleeps...he waits |
| 10:04.10 | wasynyt_ | i think i have it |
| 10:04.47 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT do you have added the "tests" branch in your repository ? |
| 10:04.55 | LinuxNIT | no |
| 10:05.11 | Thanatermesis | start with it, if not, you don't have anything of the new kernel |
| 10:05.18 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki <-- (bottom of the page) |
| 10:05.46 | LinuxNIT | Thanatermesis, i was having wasynyt_ install kernel 2.6.15 |
| 10:06.15 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT the kernel of Elive ? you are sure to is the kernel of Elive and no the kenrel of debian ? |
| 10:06.27 | wasynyt_ | i think its kernel of debian |
| 10:06.41 | LinuxNIT | kernel of debian probably |
| 10:07.06 | LinuxNIT | is that bad? |
| 10:07.18 | Thanatermesis | bad no |
| 10:07.23 | Thanatermesis | but the kernel of Elive is better :) |
| 10:07.27 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 10:07.40 | LinuxNIT | well wasynyt_ maybe he can help you |
| 10:07.48 | LinuxNIT | i have to go to bed |
| 10:07.52 | LinuxNIT | 4am |
| 10:07.55 | LinuxNIT | :< |
| 10:07.56 | wasynyt_ | ok |
| 10:07.59 | LinuxNIT | later |
| 10:08.00 | wasynyt_ | good night |
| 10:08.02 | LinuxNIT | night |
| 10:08.18 | Thanatermesis | http://pastebin.com/614019 |
| 10:08.25 | Thanatermesis | look all the drivers to has the kernel of Elive ;) |
| 10:08.52 | wasynyt_ | nice |
| 10:09.00 | rookmoot | ca va Thanatermesis |
| 10:09.54 | Thanatermesis | ça va rookmoot, comme tourjous :) |
| 10:10.15 | wasynyt_ | my comp works othervice but no /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw or /dev/dvd..... i think i should have either /dev/dvd or /dev/cdrw |
| 10:10.22 | rookmoot | héhé |
| 10:10.41 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt what kernel ? |
| 10:10.46 | wasynyt_ | default |
| 10:10.48 | Kishe | thana, is it possible to safe the mounter module etc after updating e17? |
| 10:10.55 | Thanatermesis | with the kernel of Elive 2.6.15 this devices are created automatically |
| 10:10.57 | wasynyt_ | no updates |
| 10:11.07 | rookmoot | Thanatermesis, you are starting an e module ? |
| 10:11.09 | wasynyt_ | hmm |
| 10:11.38 | Thanatermesis | Kishe the package "e-modules" not has compiled the last time, wait the next upgrade of the repository (maybe in some hours) and try to install it again |
| 10:11.43 | wasynyt_ | i think i remove that debian kernel |
| 10:11.47 | Thanatermesis | rookmoot no |
| 10:11.54 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt cat /proc/version |
| 10:12.22 | wasynyt_ | Linux version 2.6.12 (root@pinguin) (gcc version 4.0.2 (Debian 4.0.2-2)) #1 Sun Dec 4 08:56:48 CET 2005 |
| 10:12.46 | wasynyt_ | at the moment.. i have the other installed but not working as it should |
| 10:12.59 | wasynyt_ | and i am not running elive as root |
| 10:13.12 | wasynyt_ | that is just my root terminal |
| 10:13.54 | Thanatermesis | debian has received a upgrade of the udev pacakge, maybe this udev version not is compatible fully with the 2.6.12 kernel |
| 10:14.04 | Thanatermesis | in any case it works perfectly for 2.6.15 |
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| 10:14.13 | wasynyt_ | i am running unupdated version of 0.4.2 |
| 10:14.30 | Thanatermesis | not is a problem, you can posible to install this kernel |
| 10:14.54 | wasynyt_ | hmm.. k |
| 10:16.14 | Thanatermesis | you have all and a howto for this in the http://thana.no-ip.org/trac |
| 10:18.44 | wasynyt_ | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.15 -> packet not found |
| 10:19.25 | wasynyt_ | oh well gotta go... i try this some other time |
| 10:21.02 | Kishe | i love elive so far...only thing i miss from ubuntu is that i didnt have to set up my laptops hotkeys myself |
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| 10:22.05 | Thanatermesis | hum, what hot-keys ? |
| 10:22.34 | Kishe | volume controls etc |
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| 10:22.57 | Thanatermesis | synaptics? |
| 10:23.56 | Kishe | yup...its not hard...but im lazy |
| 10:24.50 | Thanatermesis | maybe installing the new kernel (i have enabled it), and the package xfree86-driver-synaptics it works |
| 10:24.57 | Thanatermesis | i need to know how to make it working, i like to add this feature on Elive, and of course for the next 0.5 version :) |
| 10:25.07 | Thanatermesis | you look a good tester for it :) |
| 10:26.55 | Thanatermesis | apt-get install gsynaptics looks a configurator for it |
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| 10:27.43 | Thanatermesis | i need a person with this keys in the laptop... my laptop not has this keys, i can't posible to test it for add the feature |
| 10:29.45 | Liveengineer | i would help thanatermesis but i don't have a touch pad on this laptop |
| 10:32.32 | goldstein | Thanatermesis, say what? |
| 10:32.57 | Kishe | hmm, says i need to enable xshared memory |
| 10:33.01 | Thanatermesis | goldstein the special buttons in the laptops |
| 10:33.21 | goldstein | i've got many of those-- |
| 10:33.39 | Kishe | oh btw...whats the packet for elive kernel...mine says debian |
| 10:33.55 | Thanatermesis | Kishe kernel-image-2.615 |
| 10:33.58 | Thanatermesis | Kishe kernel-image-2.6.15 |
| 10:34.22 | Thanatermesis | goldstein good!, can you posible to try to make it working for i add the feature in the next version of Elive =? |
| 10:34.54 | goldstein | eheh.. i would love, but i dont know how to do it:/ |
| 10:35.32 | Thanatermesis | what kernel you have actually ? |
| 10:35.36 | goldstein | i've got a toshiba lap, plenty fn keys + media keys and 3 more.. |
| 10:35.45 | goldstein | .12 |
| 10:36.39 | goldstein | i know there is an app for fn keys which works pretty well |
| 10:36.43 | Kishe | thana, its on elive test repo? |
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| 10:36.56 | goldstein | you could include that. |
| 10:37.50 | Thanatermesis | goldstein i think to the better for you is try directly the "developement build iso", it has the 2.6.15 kenrel and all the drivers added |
| 10:37.56 | Thanatermesis | its only 150 mb iso |
| 10:38.15 | Thanatermesis | Kishe, yes, in "tests" repo, tests, no test |
| 10:38.50 | goldstein | hum..never heard of it! whats that? |
| 10:40.15 | Thanatermesis | http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease |
| 10:40.28 | Thanatermesis | is just a build for test things for the next versions of Elive |
| 10:40.38 | Thanatermesis | Gwildor ping |
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| 10:41.52 | goldstein | ok |
| 10:42.05 | Thanatermesis | maybe i need to announce it officially |
| 10:42.22 | goldstein | :) |
| 10:46.42 | goldstein | donwloading:) |
| 10:47.32 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 10:48.24 | Smjor|Work | Is there a madwifi package available for 2.6.15? |
| 10:48.33 | Thanatermesis | of course! |
| 10:48.45 | Thanatermesis | the 2 versions, the old style of madwifi and the new generation ;) |
| 10:48.46 | Smjor|Work | I'm thinking of upgrading.. |
| 10:49.01 | Thanatermesis | i recomend seriously the old style |
| 10:49.08 | Smjor|Work | Whats the name of the old version. I don't like the new version |
| 10:49.18 | Smjor|Work | I HATE to create ath0 all the time |
| 10:49.27 | Smjor|Work | to lazy to write a script :o) |
| 10:49.34 | Thanatermesis | yeah, i don't know why the devels has make this (stupid) way to work |
| 10:49.47 | Thanatermesis | http://pastebin.com/614019 |
| 10:49.52 | Thanatermesis | this is all the list of drivers |
| 10:50.04 | Thanatermesis | you need to add the "tests" branch in your sources.list |
| 10:50.11 | Smjor|Work | thanks:-) |
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| 10:50.59 | *** topic/#elive by Thanatermesis -> Need Help? http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Help || Check #e #e.fr #e.es #e.de #e.it Enlightenment channels || Do you want total compatibility with your machine for the next release ? http://thana.no-ip.org/trac/wiki/DevelRelease |
| 10:51.03 | *** mode/#elive [-o Thanatermesis] by Thanatermesis |
| 10:51.25 | Smjor|Work | By the way, any news on what GUI-tool will be used for wifi-configuration in next release(s) |
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| 10:53.22 | Thanatermesis | maybe, LinuxNIT is coding a gui... i wait for look "the final result" :) |
| 10:57.29 | dats | hello :S |
| 10:57.41 | Smjor|Work | hi |
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| 10:59.25 | Smjor|Work | thanatermesis, how did you come up with the idea of making a distro based on debian and enlightenment in the first place? |
| 11:02.41 | Thanatermesis | for offer a diferent things, a good thing fast, stable, and powered, enlightenment is very powered but the ppl don't knows it, and im just showing it :) |
| 11:03.53 | Smjor|Work | :) I know, the first wm I started using was e16. Somehow, no other wm can compare, maybe e17. |
| 11:06.05 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 11:06.22 | Thanatermesis | but e17 is just a new version of the same E ;) |
| 11:06.47 | Thanatermesis | e17 wants to are the same result to e16... just more beautiful and with some more features (xdnd for example) |
| 11:07.39 | Smjor|Work | Yeah, well I love the simplicity of e16. But e17 is definately looking good. |
| 11:08.58 | Thanatermesis | i don't know why some persons has fear to e16 lol |
| 11:09.42 | Smjor|Work | You mean someone don't like e16? |
| 11:11.44 | Thanatermesis | yeah, a lot of persons in this channel have fear to enter on e16, speaks to "are very hard and strange"... i don't know why say this things... i think to its just the fanatism for use e17 lol |
| 11:14.42 | Smjor|Work | Well, e16 doesn't contain a lot of GUI-tools for configuration, no config-panel (until elpanel:o), but I think its very beautiful and functional. e17 is very eye-catchy and has more config-options, so I guess that appeals to many people |
| 11:15.25 | Thanatermesis | but you have all the configurations of e16 in the rigth button of the mouse clickin' in the background... |
| 11:15.30 | Thanatermesis | and its the SAME configurations to e17 |
| 11:16.52 | Smjor|Work | Yes, but unless you edit menus and such, there are no icons, usually just text. in e17 you sort of feel like you're working in a true desktop enviroment (at least I do). But then I like to do things "by hand". |
| 11:17.06 | Thanatermesis | goldstein do you have this laptop with this special buttons now ? |
| 11:17.17 | goldstein | yes |
| 11:17.45 | goldstein | on e16;) |
| 11:17.47 | Thanatermesis | goldstein launch "xev", enter the mouse here and press this buttons... look if in the terminal you look events |
| 11:17.52 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 11:19.58 | goldstein | well, just in 3 or 4 fn keys |
| 11:20.30 | Thanatermesis | not all the keys ? |
| 11:20.53 | goldstein | the ones for blocking the numeric pad and arrows on the keyboard |
| 11:21.16 | Smjor|Work | Hmm, aren't these keys interpreted by the HW, and then by the OS, not the other way around? |
| 11:21.29 | goldstein | not all:/ the monitor selector, bright, etc.. doesn't have a sign..neigher the media buttons |
| 11:21.48 | Thanatermesis | Smjor|Work teorically yes |
| 11:21.57 | goldstein | but with fn-keys, an app for toshiba laps most of the fn works |
| 11:22.00 | Smjor|Work | Like CTRL+ALT+DEl... |
| 11:22.03 | Thanatermesis | goldstein nothing for the media buttons ? |
| 11:22.08 | goldstein | nothing |
| 11:22.16 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 11:22.17 | Thanatermesis | try this |
| 11:22.23 | Thanatermesis | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.30 | Thanatermesis | i think to with this, needs to work |
| 11:24.16 | goldstein | no... |
| 11:24.18 | goldstein | the same |
| 11:26.27 | Thanatermesis | what about event2 ? |
| 11:26.40 | Thanatermesis | or event0 |
| 11:28.16 | goldstein | same..:/ |
| 11:28.34 | goldstein | only 3 fn keys work |
| 11:28.54 | goldstein | one of them i dont even know whats for |
| 11:32.24 | goldstein | the app was fnfx, not fn-keys |
| 11:32.49 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 11:32.57 | Thanatermesis | try it again from the "developement iso" then |
| 11:33.09 | Thanatermesis | maybe on this new and better kernel works :) |
| 11:33.33 | goldstein | yes.. |
| 11:33.41 | goldstein | im installing now fnfx |
| 11:34.24 | goldstein | i know whats the problem.. |
| 11:34.32 | goldstein | fatal error: Could open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys |
| 11:34.47 | goldstein | i have to install the module to the kernel |
| 11:35.01 | goldstein | Please make sure that your kernel has enabled the Toshiba option in the ACPI section. |
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| 11:35.24 | Kishe | Bah |
| 11:35.48 | Kishe | gsynaptics only recognises synaptics...not evdev |
| 11:35.48 | goldstein | i'm pretty sure that if i reocompile with that it will work |
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| 11:37.07 | goldstein | when i used mandrake, it was there default |
| 11:38.17 | goldstein | i will bring my big gentoo hand book and recompile the kernel tomorrow. maybe i should upgrade it too? |
| 11:39.25 | Kishe | 2.6.16 is out with lots of new goodies |
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| 11:40.18 | goldstein | ok |
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| 11:48.06 | lorenz | hello. i've installed elive but the system doesn't boot |
| 11:49.14 | goldstein | is grub working? or you just don't see the boot menu? |
| 11:50.02 | lorenz | grub works |
| 11:50.20 | goldstein | so, shows error msg? |
| 11:51.05 | lorenz | all works since appears "iop0" and other |
| 11:51.18 | Thanatermesis | <goldstein> fatal error: Could open /proc/acpi/toshiba/keys |
| 11:51.27 | Thanatermesis | maybe you don't have this problem on the 2.6.15 kernel |
| 11:53.06 | lorenz | iop0 could be intel controller, but my proc is amd athlon |
| 11:53.21 | goldstein | Thanatermesis, should i upgrade to .15 or .16? |
| 11:53.57 | goldstein | lorenz, i dont know what's that? |
| 11:54.17 | Thanatermesis | goldstein Elive only has the 2.6.15 kernel, no 2.6.16 |
| 11:54.42 | goldstein | ok |
| 11:54.54 | Thanatermesis | goldstein but better if you try directly the iso, it works with the 2.6.15 kernel with all the drivers installed and of course, you can posible to "apt-get install" anything in the liveCD mode |
| 11:55.01 | Thanatermesis | i think to its more easy, fast, and clean :) |
| 11:55.02 | lorenz | goldstein, i've done a photo, now i load that |
| 11:55.41 | goldstein | ok, its downloading, maybe ill try the iso at the end of the day |
| 11:56.07 | goldstein | but i still think i have to add the toshiba acpi module |
| 11:59.40 | goldstein | have to go now, sorry lorenz |
| 12:02.16 | lorenz | http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5748/boot1nq.jpg |
| 12:07.20 | Thanatermesis | do you have a SATA lorenz ? |
| 12:12.06 | wasynyt_away | iop0: configuring... |
| 12:12.06 | wasynyt_away | ioprbs0 at iop0 tid 521: <ADAPTEC, RAID-1, 370L> direct access, fixed |
| 12:12.06 | wasynyt_away | scsibus3 at ioprbs0: 1 targets |
| 12:12.06 | wasynyt_away | sd0 at scsibus3 targ 0 lun 0: <I2O, Container #00, > SCSI2 0/direct fixed |
| 12:12.07 | wasynyt_away | sd0: 114473MB, 14593 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 234440704 sec |
| 12:12.07 | wasynyt_away | total |
| 12:12.09 | wasynyt_away | ioprbs1 at iop0 tid 522: <ADAPTEC, RAID-1, 370L> direct access, fixed |
| 12:12.11 | wasynyt_away | scsibus4 at ioprbs1: 1 targets |
| 12:12.17 | wasynyt_away | lorenz, do have some sort of raid ? |
| 12:16.39 | roxville | rookmoot, thinking about changing nick? |
| 12:16.51 | roxville | or is futzati your altre ego? :) |
| 12:17.01 | roxville | alter |
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| 12:38.41 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user Elive_user2 Elive_user3 please change their nickname |
| 12:39.14 | Thanatermesis | using: /nick yourname |
| 12:50.50 | lorenz | http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5748/boot1nq.jpg |
| 12:51.07 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, not sata |
| 12:51.25 | Thanatermesis | lorenz to much new hardware ? |
| 12:51.29 | Thanatermesis | too* |
| 12:51.59 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, no new hw |
| 12:52.22 | Thanatermesis | strange... and all the installation process is finished correctly ? |
| 12:52.57 | lorenz | i have only as "particular hw" an adaptec 2110s scsi raid controller |
| 12:53.20 | lorenz | the installation finished properly |
| 12:53.56 | gablam | hi to all |
| 12:54.10 | lorenz | image that i have linked is after unstallation |
| 12:54.46 | lorenz | *installation |
| 12:54.47 | roxville | hi gablam |
| 12:55.54 | gablam | i am a very beginner and i would like to congratulate to elive. it's great, i like it. |
| 12:57.01 | lorenz | gablam, what prcessor have you? |
| 12:57.24 | gablam | athlon xp 2000+ |
| 12:58.10 | lorenz | the same mine |
| 12:58.28 | lorenz | look at this |
| 12:58.32 | lorenz | unable to boot http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/5748/boot1nq.jpg |
| 12:58.51 | Thanatermesis | lorenz maybe the raid device not is good accepted for the Elive defaults kernel |
| 12:58.56 | Thanatermesis | try to install the next candidate |
| 12:59.02 | Thanatermesis | a good 2.6.15 debian based kernel |
| 12:59.05 | lorenz | have you had a similar message? |
| 12:59.06 | Thanatermesis | you know chroot ? |
| 12:59.06 | Kishe | hmm, whats good linux prog for easy gprs setup? |
| 12:59.40 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, not understood |
| 12:59.50 | Kishe | dun wanna install half kde to get kppp |
| 13:00.37 | Thanatermesis | lorenz can you posible to enter in the Elive installation disk from a liveCD and install on it a new kernel ? |
| 13:00.40 | gablam | lorenz i dont have this message, i simply installed the live, then upgraded from the net, and happy... |
| 13:02.01 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i have istalled the 0.4 release |
| 13:02.15 | gablam | lorenz i have nforce2 chipset. maybe yours different |
| 13:04.14 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, can I install a different kernel |
| 13:04.15 | lorenz | ??? |
| 13:06.35 | Thanatermesis | lorenz of course... with a little of knowledgements of linux |
| 13:06.50 | Thanatermesis | if not... maybe for the 0.5 release you have more luck (2.6.15 kenrel) |
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| 13:08.35 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
| 13:12.33 | gablam | lorenz i installed 0.4.2 |
| 13:12.50 | lorenz | Thanatermesis o_O are you elive founder??? |
| 13:13.02 | Thanatermesis | lorenz yes :) |
| 13:13.02 | lorenz | gablam: yes |
| 13:13.11 | lorenz | oh my god |
| 13:13.45 | gablam | Thanatermesis, congratulations! |
| 13:13.59 | Thanatermesis | thanks gablam :) |
| 13:14.51 | goldstein | founder, developer, tester, keeper, addicted.. |
| 13:15.11 | lorenz | Thanatermesis: do something for me, i pray you :P |
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| 13:15.30 | gablam | i'm just a little grey mouse here, but i'm happy to thank you for all your work and vision of a better desktop an look&feel. thanks |
| 13:16.02 | TuxMeister | gablam, thank YOU for using elive |
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| 13:17.16 | lorenz | Thanatermesis: back seriously, i have had this problem with some 2.6 kernels in debian too |
| 13:17.24 | roxville | TuxMeister, thank YOU for thanking gablam for using elive! |
| 13:17.45 | Thanatermesis | lorenz can you posible to give me a ssh ? |
| 13:17.46 | TuxMeister | roxville, jajajaj |
| 13:17.53 | TuxMeister | you're welcome :p |
| 13:18.26 | roxville | awwwww!! |
| 13:18.54 | Thanatermesis | gablam i have change the beautiful silver mouse by a normal standard mouse because a bug on xorg to make a big memleak in the system, and for the next release, i use the really default X cursor, not bad but very simple and standard |
| 13:19.01 | lorenz | roxville, thank YOU for thanking TuxMeister that thanks gablam for using elive! |
| 13:19.26 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:20.05 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i am not on linux now |
| 13:20.35 | TuxMeister | lorenz, roxville, people is goin' crazy around here... but that's great xD |
| 13:20.50 | lorenz | :P |
| 13:20.53 | TuxMeister | goldstein, why not? that's beautiful xD |
| 13:20.58 | gablam | TuxMeister, It's a pleasure. |
| 13:21.07 | goldstein | Thanatermesis, thank god there was a bug, i hate the animated big cursors:p |
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| 13:21.31 | gablam | Thanatermesis, I feel shiny grey now :) |
| 13:21.55 | lorenz | <Thanatermesis> lorenz can you posible to give me a ssh ? --- what? |
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| 13:23.01 | dats | hello |
| 13:24.41 | roxville | * goldstein takes no part in group hugs organized by roxville <-- i know... you like to organize your own group hugs... |
| 13:25.06 | TuxMeister | jajajajaja |
| 13:25.13 | TuxMeister | i mean: hahahahahaha |
| 13:25.24 | goldstein | my swedish group hugs |
| 13:25.26 | goldstein | lol |
| 13:25.48 | roxville | hehe |
| 13:25.49 | Kishe | Tjalla tjalla |
| 13:25.54 | TuxMeister | :p with blond-haired, blue-eyed swedish chics, oohhh yeah! |
| 13:26.13 | roxville | hi kishe... speak swedish? or prefer finnish? |
| 13:26.25 | Thanatermesis | <goldstein> Thanatermesis, thank god there was a bug, i hate the animated big cursors:p |
| 13:26.26 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:27.23 | goldstein | i have a max resolution of 1027*768.. the big cursors are really big here.. |
| 13:27.26 | goldstein | lol |
| 13:27.57 | roxville | goldstein, i knew you were "specail"... but that a really weird res... |
| 13:28.08 | roxville | "speacial" even |
| 13:28.18 | roxville | lol |
| 13:28.31 | goldstein | ok, you unsderstood..lol |
| 13:29.10 | Kishe | rox, i speak swedish just enough to sound silly |
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| 13:31.16 | roxville | hehe Kishe , just like my finnish :) |
| 13:32.17 | roxville | en puhu hyvää suomea |
| 13:32.25 | roxville | mutta oppetellan Ö= |
| 13:32.30 | roxville | :) |
| 13:34.18 | Kishe | hmm...themes other than elive one doesnt work too well in newest e17 it seems |
| 13:34.20 | roxville | damn charset... makes my slileys look like skulls |
| 13:35.01 | roxville | Kishe, really? |
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| 13:36.02 | roxville | they've been working pretty well for a while now |
| 13:36.19 | roxville | any theme in specific you're thinking about? |
| 13:36.42 | roxville | hello Rastlinux |
| 13:37.03 | Rastlinux | hello there. |
| 13:37.23 | Kishe | hmm, works now that i used e17s own and not elpanel |
| 13:38.12 | Kishe | nope...slate wont work |
| 13:39.03 | roxville | you like dark themes, Kishe? |
| 13:39.49 | roxville | try this one http://roxville.no-ip.org/public_html/Themes_And_Icons/Tecno-02.edj |
| 13:40.16 | roxville | it's made by an italian dude... came here and offered it to us |
| 13:40.27 | roxville | it's a gorgeous black theme |
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| 13:45.46 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, the xernel i have io 2.6.12 |
| 13:47.57 | Thanatermesis | lorenz i know... |
| 13:48.02 | Thanatermesis | do you have a router connection ? |
| 13:48.26 | lorenz | uhm |
| 13:48.48 | lorenz | i have modify my modem into a router |
| 13:49.29 | lorenz | in few words internet connection works in live cd mode |
| 13:50.14 | Thanatermesis | i can posible to install the 2.6.15 in your computer, from the liveCD mode, if you open the port 22 of your router and start the ssh service |
| 13:50.41 | roxville | lorenz, if you let thana come in via SSH and look at your system... it's a good thing :) he won't "take over" and spam you or anything like that |
| 13:50.44 | roxville | i promise |
| 13:50.55 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 13:51.13 | lorenz | uhm ok, i reboot now |
| 13:51.19 | roxville | he was a frequent guest on my computer for a while, when 0.4 was developed |
| 13:51.43 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 13:51.56 | goldstein | but if you have children pornography Thanatermesis will be forced to call the cops |
| 13:52.39 | Thanatermesis | of course :) |
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| 13:59.02 | Elive_user98 | \nick lorenz |
| 13:59.16 | lorenz | here i am |
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| 14:02.32 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, when you want i am ready |
| 14:03.50 | Thanatermesis | ok lorenz, enter on the channel #elive-unstable |
| 14:04.53 | goldstein | good luck man |
| 14:04.53 | lorenz | ok, done |
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| 14:05.08 | lorenz | lol, thanks :P |
| 14:05.34 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 Elive_user please change their nickname |
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| 14:20.07 | Thanatermesis | apt dragndrop |
| 14:20.17 | Thanatermesis | apt copypaste |
| 14:20.18 | apt | [copypaste] for select any word or lines with the mouse and paste simply by the middle button of the mouse |
| 14:20.20 | Thanatermesis | lorenz |
| 14:21.04 | lorenz | ok |
| 14:21.10 | Thanatermesis | apt vobcopy |
| 14:21.11 | apt | somebody said vobcopy was the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
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| 14:22.02 | Thanatermesis | apt vobcopy |
| 14:22.03 | apt | somebody said vobcopy was the repository of elive: deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive |
| 14:22.04 | Thanatermesis | egrub |
| 14:22.33 | dererk | apt, pelc to Thanatermesis |
| 14:22.34 | apt | ACTION gives a Patadita En Los Cojones to Thanatermesis. |
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| 14:24.58 | Mtraker | Nas |
| 14:26.10 | Mtraker | sorry... hi |
| 14:28.53 | Thanatermesis | hi Mtraker |
| 14:29.01 | dererk | apt, pelc to Thanatermesis again |
| 14:29.02 | apt | ACTION gives a Patadita En Los Cojones to Thanatermesis again. |
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| 14:55.17 | lorenz | Thanatermesis: doesn't work |
| 14:56.02 | Thanatermesis | and boots anything ? |
| 14:56.24 | lorenz | i'm loading phltl with the message |
| 14:56.31 | lorenz | *photo |
| 14:57.17 | lorenz | it boots |
| 14:57.50 | lorenz | but doesn't login |
| 14:58.56 | lorenz | the system doesn't freeze |
| 15:00.30 | Thanatermesis | photo ? |
| 15:01.42 | lorenz | it is arriving :) |
| 15:03.18 | lorenz | http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/2407/spanky6wc.jpg |
| 15:04.44 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 15:04.46 | Thanatermesis | what is that ? |
| 15:04.58 | Thanatermesis | this is messages of the E libs |
| 15:05.07 | lorenz | i don't know :( |
| 15:05.18 | Thanatermesis | but your system boots then :) |
| 15:05.23 | lorenz | and then? |
| 15:05.31 | Thanatermesis | i think to its just a problem of the nvidia driver |
| 15:05.46 | lorenz | >( |
| 15:05.48 | Thanatermesis | enter on #elive-unstable again |
| 15:06.17 | lorenz | muot i reboot on live cd befocre? |
| 15:06.22 | lorenz | *must |
| 15:06.32 | Thanatermesis | yes, of course |
| 15:06.33 | lorenz | *before |
| 15:06.38 | lorenz | ok |
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| 15:20.24 | msinhore | hello all! |
| 15:20.48 | Thanatermesis | hello msinhore |
| 15:21.31 | msinhore | I set my sources.list for deb http://www.vobcopy.org/mirror/elive/ elive main efl elive. |
| 15:21.54 | Thanatermesis | aha |
| 15:22.11 | Thanatermesis | add in the final of the line "tests" if you want the lastest Elive things ;) |
| 15:22.14 | msinhore | Exist a meta-package for install the enlightenment from elive? |
| 15:22.24 | Thanatermesis | what ? |
| 15:22.41 | Thanatermesis | enlightenmen tis in Elive by default |
| 15:23.14 | msinhore | Thanatermesis, ok! |
| 15:23.25 | msinhore | Thanatermesis, I set this on my sources.list ;) |
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| 15:24.39 | msinhore | Thanatermesis, but, I need remove old packages and old configurations? (I use enlightenment 0.16.999) |
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| 15:25.05 | Gwildor | Thanatermesis, i think he means is ther an Elive-enlightenment-meta-package, for installation fo the enlightenment that elive uses, on another debian system |
| 15:25.28 | Thanatermesis | msinhore of course, is totally incompatible and can be posible to give problems |
| 15:25.33 | Thanatermesis | libs problems |
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| 15:26.00 | Thanatermesis | ah Gwildor... mmh, yes, just "apt-get install e17" |
| 15:26.08 | Thanatermesis | wb SteveMyers ! :) |
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| 15:26.16 | Gwildor | SteveMyers, o/ o/ |
| 15:26.57 | SteveMyers | :D |
| 15:27.02 | SteveMyers | morning guys :D |
| 15:27.11 | roxville | morning steve :) |
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| 15:27.24 | SteveMyers | hey rox!:) |
| 15:27.30 | msinhore | Thanatermesis, then, I need remove old's packages ok? |
| 15:27.31 | Elive_user2 | hi |
| 15:27.42 | SteveMyers | I woke up to late |
| 15:27.44 | Elive_user2 | how are u ? |
| 15:31.42 | Thanatermesis | msinhore yes, all the e17 or efl stuff before to use the Elive packages |
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| 15:41.35 | egrub | apt x es en me regalas debian potato? |
| 15:43.11 | egrub | apt x en es throws egrub a hot baked debian potato with sour cream and caviar |
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| 15:45.03 | nomed | hi all |
| 15:45.22 | roxville | nomed :DDD |
| 15:45.33 | nomed | :) |
| 15:46.17 | nomed | since i removed my xchat stuff elive was not in auto-join anymore ... i was missing this chan :) |
| 15:48.00 | sinplomo | hi nomed !!!!! |
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| 15:48.11 | sinplomo | welcome back nomed :) |
| 15:49.38 | lorenz | ok Thanatermesis , now it seems to work! thanks!!! |
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| 15:50.53 | lorenz | but glx seews not working |
| 15:51.01 | Thanatermesis | of course, i have changed the driver of nvidia |
| 15:51.03 | lorenz | nv drivers? |
| 15:51.05 | Thanatermesis | yes |
| 15:51.11 | lorenz | ok |
| 15:51.15 | Thanatermesis | you are sure to its the OLD driver and no the new ? |
| 15:51.29 | lorenz | eh |
| 15:52.01 | lorenz | booting in live cd i have no troubles |
| 15:52.40 | lorenz | with old drivers |
| 15:53.12 | lorenz | and then my card is'n newest |
| 15:53.41 | lorenz | the ge force 2 64 MB |
| 15:55.35 | nomed | hi sinplomo .. thanks roxville :) |
| 15:55.49 | Thanatermesis | http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_18897.html |
| 15:55.53 | Thanatermesis | where is your card ? |
| 15:56.57 | lorenz | GeForce2 MX 400 |
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| 15:59.56 | Thanatermesis | in the supported or not supported list ? |
| 15:59.59 | Thanatermesis | part* |
| 16:00.04 | Lacteus | Bonjour |
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| 16:00.23 | lorenz | supported |
| 16:00.59 | Thanatermesis | then is the new drivers |
| 16:01.51 | lorenz | lol |
| 16:01.58 | goldstein | lorenz, i have the same card |
| 16:02.29 | lorenz | goldstein, do you use newer drivers? |
| 16:02.39 | goldstein | no problems, except it gets crazy when i turn computer off and starts blinking green blocks |
| 16:02.50 | lorenz | o_O |
| 16:04.01 | goldstein | im using the driver installed |
| 16:04.18 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, what i have to do? elive_unstable? |
| 16:04.18 | goldstein | by elive |
| 16:05.23 | Thanatermesis | lorenz just install the packages for the nvidia new driver and edit your X configuration file for use nvidia |
| 16:05.43 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, ok |
| 16:05.58 | Thanatermesis | lorenz apres de le editer, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.15 |
| 16:06.04 | Thanatermesis | il devrait te installer 2 packages |
| 16:06.10 | Thanatermesis | hum... lol |
| 16:06.27 | Thanatermesis | lorenz after to edit it, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-2.6.15 , it needs to install 2 pacakges |
| 16:06.47 | Thanatermesis | if has installed 2 packages and the X configuration file is done, you can restart your graphical system |
| 16:07.23 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, same configuration that debian? |
| 16:08.08 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, je connais le francais :) |
| 16:09.07 | roxville | i need to take my daughter out now |
| 16:09.12 | roxville | bbl |
| 16:09.48 | Thanatermesis | lorenz yes... Elive = debian :) |
| 16:10.07 | lorenz | ok ;) |
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| 16:20.26 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i'm making crazy |
| 16:21.52 | Thanatermesis | good, you are looking the power of linux ? |
| 16:22.38 | lorenz | i'm looking the nvidia installation failing :) |
| 16:23.01 | lorenz | how to do a screenshot? |
| 16:23.20 | Thanatermesis | launch |
| 16:23.23 | Thanatermesis | capturar name |
| 16:23.29 | Thanatermesis | and you have it on /tmp/shots |
| 16:23.32 | Thanatermesis | upload it on http://thana.no-ip.org/upload |
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| 16:26.54 | Thanatermesis | good morning LinuxNIT ! |
| 16:26.59 | Thanatermesis | :) |
| 16:29.26 | LinuxNIT | good morning Thanatermesis |
| 16:35.51 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, http://thana.no-ip.org/upload/nvidiatroubles.jpg |
| 16:36.56 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT how to works etk-server ? :) |
| 16:37.11 | Thanatermesis | lorenz module-assistant ? o_O¡ |
| 16:37.22 | Thanatermesis | you don't need it lorenz |
| 16:37.26 | lorenz | e_e |
| 16:37.35 | Thanatermesis | just install the package nvidia-kernel-2.6.15 |
| 16:37.41 | Thanatermesis | Elive has this 2 version of nvidia ;) |
| 16:37.47 | lorenz | only thio?? |
| 16:37.49 | LinuxNIT | the test program codewarrior gave me runs fine. im still reading this stuff and trying to understand how it works :) |
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| 16:39.36 | Thanatermesis | do you look it hard LinuxNIT ? |
| 16:40.29 | LinuxNIT | im not sure :) i actually dont know a whole lot of python so it takes me a bit to learn to use a new widget/function etc :-/ |
| 16:41.12 | LinuxNIT | im still in the process of learning :) however my program in its current state works fine |
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| 16:45.42 | lorenz | ok i reboot X |
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| 16:46.47 | Thanatermesis | LinuxNIT good... patience :) |
| 16:47.13 | LinuxNIT | yeah lots of it :) |
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| 16:59.10 | lorenz | nothing to do with nvidia |
| 16:59.14 | lorenz | :((( |
| 16:59.39 | Thanatermesis | lorenz yo uhave changed xorg.conf in "nv" to "nvidia" ? |
| 17:03.04 | msinhore | Thanatermesis, using elive-login, I don't need of the gdm? |
| 17:03.24 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i have done the dpkg-reconfigure |
| 17:03.44 | lorenz | and uncheck "dri" |
| 17:03.44 | Thanatermesis | msinhore elive-login is just the menu for the liveCD mode |
| 17:04.05 | Thanatermesis | dpkg-reconfigure lorenz ? of what ? |
| 17:04.25 | lorenz | xserver-xorg |
| 17:05.28 | Thanatermesis | lol |
| 17:05.32 | Thanatermesis | you don't need this lorenz |
| 17:05.34 | lorenz | it isn't necessary? |
| 17:05.52 | lorenz | ok |
| 17:05.57 | lorenz | then |
| 17:06.27 | Thanatermesis | you have the good configuration with the Elive configuration file, but yes, you need to change "nv" to "nvidia" |
| 17:06.29 | Thanatermesis | not is hard |
| 17:06.35 | Thanatermesis | scite /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:06.44 | Thanatermesis | i hope to you don¡' have lost the configuration made by Elive :S |
| 17:07.23 | lorenz | i must remove some package and reinstall then? |
| 17:07.47 | LinuxNIT | i think dpkg-reocnifgure should have made a back up |
| 17:07.52 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i have done a backup of good configuration first |
| 17:08.07 | msinhore | Thanatermesis, ok. |
| 17:08.49 | lorenz | i must remove some package and reinstall then i have edit xorg-conf?? |
| 17:09.11 | lorenz | *after i have |
| 17:10.24 | Thanatermesis | dererk si, un segundo, estoy probando |
| 17:10.35 | Thanatermesis | lorenz just install the pacakge to i have say |
| 17:10.45 | Thanatermesis | and change "nv" to "nvidia" |
| 17:10.51 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, already installed |
| 17:10.57 | Thanatermesis | (if you don't have lost the Elive configuration with dpkg-reconfigre... of course) |
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| 17:11.40 | Thanatermesis | wb nomed !, we don't have look on this channel since long time :) |
| 17:11.45 | Thanatermesis | lorenz then just change nv to nvidia |
| 17:12.14 | lorenz | but why it is also the XF86Config-4? o_O |
| 17:12.17 | LinuxNIT | check the /etc/X11 folder i blelieve dpkg-reconfigure makes a backup of the original xorg.conf |
| 17:12.38 | Thanatermesis | lorenz forget it, not is more used |
| 17:14.00 | lorenz | ARGH |
| 17:14.19 | Thanatermesis | xorg.conf |
| 17:14.41 | lorenz | into the console trasparency was missed |
| 17:15.52 | lorenz | *thinks |
| 17:16.02 | msinhore | how I add new apps on the e-bar? |
| 17:16.33 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, you mean i-bar right? |
| 17:16.40 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, yes. |
| 17:16.49 | LinuxNIT | in elpanel go to look and feel |
| 17:16.55 | LinuxNIT | then e17 |
| 17:17.07 | LinuxNIT | then choose entangle |
| 17:17.44 | lorenz | ok |
| 17:18.03 | LinuxNIT | choose ibar at the top then drag the icons from the lisk on the left and drop them where you want them |
| 17:18.22 | Thanatermesis | lorenz 0.4 or 0.4.2 ? |
| 17:18.30 | lorenz | 0.4.2 |
| 17:21.47 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i haven't transparency in terminal |
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| 17:24.06 | Thanatermesis | lorenz screenshot ? |
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| 17:27.56 | lorenz | http://thana.no-ip.org/upload/notransparency.jpg |
| 17:29.29 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 17:31.31 | Thanatermesis | *sigh* |
| 17:31.38 | Thanatermesis | what do you have done just before lorenz ? |
| 17:31.45 | Thanatermesis | do you have upgrade the system for example ? |
| 17:31.52 | lorenz | no |
| 17:32.21 | SteveMyers | wow |
| 17:32.30 | SteveMyers | Gimp 2.3.7 is out and I didn't even know it |
| 17:32.36 | SteveMyers | damn |
| 17:34.31 | Thanatermesis | SteveMyers your nickname is registered ? |
| 17:34.40 | SteveMyers | yes sir :) |
| 17:34.52 | Thanatermesis | lorenz mmh, strange... i have found the same problem recently in my tests for the developement version and i don't know why |
| 17:35.45 | Thanatermesis | more persons has this problem ? |
| 17:36.11 | Thanatermesis | lorenz what configuration of X you are using now exactly ? do you are using the default configuration by Elive ? |
| 17:36.35 | lorenz | yes Thanatermesis |
| 17:37.07 | lorenz | i've using original configuration backup |
| 17:37.11 | Thanatermesis | strange.. i don't understand :/ |
| 17:37.30 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache policy rxvt-unicode what version you have ? |
| 17:37.35 | Thanatermesis | Installed* |
| 17:39.36 | lorenz | $ apt-cache policy rxvt-unicode |
| 17:39.36 | lorenz | rxvt-unicode: |
| 17:39.36 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.36 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.36 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.37 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.39 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.41 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.43 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.45 | lorenz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:39.47 | lorenz | tristano@elive[/etc/X11]$ |
| 17:40.15 | Thanatermesis | its the good... i don't understand why this problem... i need to make a look to this |
| 17:40.29 | lorenz | ssh? |
| 17:40.56 | Thanatermesis | no... i have found the same thing in the developement iso |
| 17:41.08 | lorenz | ah ok |
| 17:41.15 | Thanatermesis | i can't posible to fix it in your machine for now... i dont' have very time... ask me maybe tomorrow |
| 17:41.30 | Thanatermesis | for this moment try if "Alt + E" launch a correct terminal |
| 17:42.09 | lorenz | as before |
| 17:42.24 | Thanatermesis | if not, edit this file: /usr/share/e16/config/bindings.cfg and in the final line, change "urxvt" to "eterm" |
| 17:42.36 | Thanatermesis | mmmh... give me a ssh, i try a thing |
| 17:42.40 | Thanatermesis | enter on #elive-unstable |
| 17:42.46 | lorenz | ok |
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| 17:48.03 | lorenz | i leave unchanged /usr/share/e16/config/bindings.cfg ? |
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| 18:28.40 | inigo | hi |
| 18:30.15 | Thanatermesis | wb inigo ! |
| 18:30.28 | inigo | :) |
| 18:31.29 | inigo | ctrl +alt + ins powa !! |
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| 18:33.34 | inigo | Thanatermesis, i'm thinking to add e16 to my liveCD jeje gnome is so "bigger" ... some machines will thanks a lighter environment :) |
| 18:33.50 | inigo | i'm thinking = i have done a probe ;) |
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| 18:34.09 | inigo | and it works !! i can choose from grub |
| 18:34.17 | Thanatermesis | oh.. you are enlighted now ? :) |
| 18:34.23 | inigo | jeje yup |
| 18:34.27 | roxville | lol |
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| 18:56.15 | GPLGeek | apt ati |
| 18:56.16 | apt | i heard ati is http://www.linuxvideo.org to learn how to set up the all in wonder, or see http://gatos.sourceforge.net/, or non-free drivers at schneider-digital.de, or the excellent AcceleratedX from http://www.xig.com, or wait for the next XFree release Ati is crap, live with it. |
| 18:56.23 | GPLGeek | apt ati-driver |
| 18:58.00 | GPLGeek | apt ati-driver is You do not have to install ATI drivers, and you should not. The ATI drivers are already installed. Select FGRLX on the livecd and then install elive to the hard drive. The copy on the hard disk will have FGLRX too. Useful tools are glxgears and fgl_glxgears to test fps. |
| 18:58.02 | apt | okay, GPLGeek |
| 18:58.25 | GPLGeek | As a note, many people are breaking their elive systems because they install non-working drivers over working drivers. |
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| 19:09.38 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 19:12.29 | LinuxNIT | would changeing the name of the fgrlx module make it more obvious to people? (maby include ATI in the name)? |
| 19:13.01 | LinuxNIT | s/maby/maybe |
| 19:13.28 | LinuxNIT | just a thought. i dunno i dont use ati |
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| 19:41.03 | TuxMeister | hey guys |
| 19:43.21 | Elive_user | is there a text editor in eLive? I cant find it in the menu, Im needing to save a script |
| 19:43.49 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, scite |
| 19:44.00 | Elive_user | aight thank you |
| 19:44.03 | LinuxNIT | np |
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| 19:47.09 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, did you get those icons added to ibar? |
| 19:48.04 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, no :( |
| 19:48.54 | LinuxNIT | what was the problem? |
| 19:50.07 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, I look and feel the app icons for the ibar area and not make effect. |
| 19:50.43 | msinhore | now, I run elive-skel user myuser for test. |
| 19:51.01 | LinuxNIT | you added them to the ibar section in entangle? |
| 19:51.07 | msinhore | but is very slow! |
| 19:51.22 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, yes |
| 19:51.34 | LinuxNIT | and you clicked save? |
| 19:51.39 | LinuxNIT | :> |
| 19:51.42 | LinuxNIT | have to ask |
| 19:52.37 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 19:52.57 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, one moment. |
| 19:53.05 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 19:53.53 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, yes, I clicked on the save. |
| 19:54.30 | msinhore | I want insert the icon gaim and other on the bar.... |
| 19:54.59 | wasynyt | good evening people |
| 19:55.28 | msinhore | And, I want change the icon theme for the apps on the bar. |
| 19:55.29 | wasynyt | msinhore, have you tried restarting e17/e16 |
| 19:55.37 | Elive_user | How do I uninstall the wine on eLive? |
| 19:55.40 | msinhore | wasynyt, yes, I started |
| 19:55.46 | wasynyt | hmm |
| 19:55.53 | wasynyt | Elive_user, use synaptic |
| 19:56.01 | Elive_user | dpkg -l|grep wine ? |
| 19:56.04 | msinhore | wasynyt, detail, I'm using debian etch. |
| 19:56.51 | wasynyt | ahh.. i thought you were using elive.. nah in the menu there is option restart enlightenment |
| 19:57.08 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, either thru synaptic or apt-get remove wine |
| 19:57.37 | LinuxNIT | synaptic is in elpanel |
| 19:57.46 | Elive_user | Aight thanks again |
| 19:57.53 | wasynyt | your welcome |
| 19:57.53 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 19:58.57 | LinuxNIT | Elive_user, we'd appreciate it if you changed your nick :) /nick newnick |
| 19:59.04 | Elive_user | I allways forget that gah |
| 19:59.07 | NoName | ;) |
| 19:59.12 | wasynyt | :D |
| 19:59.36 | LinuxNIT | NoName, choose xchat on the xchat menu then server list |
| 19:59.52 | LinuxNIT | there you can set the default nick |
| 19:59.55 | NoName | Alright, Would synatic be under the admin part? |
| 19:59.56 | LinuxNIT | :D |
| 20:00.09 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 20:00.22 | wasynyt | hmm i think i have to restart kde... i'll b eright back |
| 20:00.32 | LinuxNIT | its called package manager |
| 20:00.43 | LinuxNIT | kde ewww |
| 20:00.44 | LinuxNIT | ;) |
| 20:00.58 | NoName | thanks again, and again |
| 20:01.03 | LinuxNIT | np |
| 20:01.08 | LinuxNIT | my pleasure |
| 20:01.18 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, did you restart e17? |
| 20:01.27 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, yes. |
| 20:01.37 | LinuxNIT | did they show up? |
| 20:01.52 | NoName | LinuxNIT, What would I be looking for? |
| 20:02.12 | LinuxNIT | NoName, in synaptic? |
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| 20:02.24 | NoName | Yeah, I searched for "wine" and i see some lib stuff |
| 20:02.36 | LinuxNIT | keep going down youll see wine |
| 20:02.45 | NoName | Alright I see it |
| 20:03.11 | LinuxNIT | right lick and then you can remove or completely remvoe |
| 20:03.26 | LinuxNIT | might as well take out libwine as well |
| 20:03.29 | NoName | ah right |
| 20:03.33 | msinhore | What is the files on dir /usr/share/enlightenment/data/other/? |
| 20:03.35 | LinuxNIT | if your removinge wine |
| 20:03.52 | NoName | Yeah I need to install the new version |
| 20:04.05 | LinuxNIT | NoName, i did the same thing :) |
| 20:04.22 | NoName | woo I think it removed it |
| 20:04.27 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 20:04.42 | NoName | alright now to download new from website |
| 20:04.56 | LinuxNIT | NoName, where are you getting it from? |
| 20:05.07 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, did the icons never show up? |
| 20:05.10 | NoName | winehq.com I think is the url |
| 20:05.13 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 20:05.25 | LinuxNIT | cool they have a good how to for debian |
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| 20:05.48 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, no. |
| 20:05.57 | NoName | eLive is based off debian right |
| 20:06.06 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 20:06.21 | wasynyt | debian etch to be precis |
| 20:06.24 | LinuxNIT | it is debian etch with a few proprietary apps added |
| 20:06.33 | LinuxNIT | and preconfigured |
| 20:06.35 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 20:06.36 | wasynyt | & thanas work |
| 20:07.03 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, the bar at the bottom. does it grow when the mouse moves over it? |
| 20:07.10 | NoName | LinuxNIT, what way did you install it? Looking here I see alot of confusing ways |
| 20:07.45 | LinuxNIT | NoName, http://winehq.com/site/download-deb |
| 20:08.07 | NoName | so thru Synaptic? |
| 20:08.24 | wasynyt | dpkg -i pagkage |
| 20:08.31 | wasynyt | as root i guess |
| 20:08.38 | LinuxNIT | yeah although i edited the sources.list file by hand |
| 20:08.45 | NoName | oh sounds fun |
| 20:08.48 | LinuxNIT | wasynyt, winehq has a deb repo |
| 20:08.53 | wasynyt | ok.. nice |
| 20:09.10 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, yes, exist a base icons. |
| 20:09.31 | wasynyt | NoName, you can edit sources from sunaptic too if you are afraid of config files |
| 20:09.33 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, is possible change the icons theme? |
| 20:09.42 | msinhore | on this bar? |
| 20:10.06 | LinuxNIT | NoName, editing by hand is copy and paste the line then save |
| 20:10.10 | wasynyt | msinhore, i think it can be done by editing each apps eap file |
| 20:10.59 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, i thing wasynyt is righ |
| 20:11.07 | NoName | woo i think im getting it :O, latest version is 0.9.9-1? |
| 20:11.19 | wasynyt | hmm 0.9.10 i think |
| 20:11.22 | msinhore | wasynyt, I'm old gnome user and I don't understand the enlightenment engine. :( |
| 20:11.23 | NoName | crap |
| 20:11.39 | wasynyt | msinhore, im kde fanboy :D |
| 20:12.03 | wasynyt | NoName, i think that 0.9.9 is current enough |
| 20:12.25 | NoName | hm aight I hope so |
| 20:12.29 | LinuxNIT | NoName, winehq will be in the version title in synaptic |
| 20:13.00 | LinuxNIT | did you edit the /etc/atp/preferences file? |
| 20:13.14 | NoName | No, I just followed what the website said. |
| 20:13.25 | LinuxNIT | that was on the website ;) |
| 20:13.33 | msinhore | The enlightenment is more complex but more stable and more fast :D |
| 20:13.41 | LinuxNIT | true |
| 20:13.58 | NoName | I put deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ into the Repositories |
| 20:13.59 | LinuxNIT | msinhore, do the icons grow in size with mouse-over? |
| 20:14.03 | wasynyt | for me enlightenment is still not there |
| 20:14.08 | NoName | then updated it |
| 20:14.17 | NoName | well refreshed it |
| 20:14.28 | GPLGeek | the future holds an easy enlightenment |
| 20:14.32 | LinuxNIT | NoName, you have to edit /etc/apt/preferences |
| 20:14.39 | wasynyt | GPLGeek, i agree |
| 20:14.43 | LinuxNIT | Package: wine |
| 20:14.44 | LinuxNIT | Pin: release l=WineHQ APT Repository |
| 20:14.44 | LinuxNIT | Pin-Priority: 1000 |
| 20:14.49 | GPLGeek | once e17 is stable and fast they will stop working on the base and start working on user-interaction |
| 20:14.49 | NoName | Alright thank you |
| 20:14.52 | LinuxNIT | add those lines to it nomed |
| 20:14.56 | LinuxNIT | add those lines to it NoName |
| 20:15.02 | GPLGeek | configuration programs |
| 20:15.15 | wasynyt | that is going to nice :D |
| 20:15.19 | NoName | alright so I need to uninsall wine again |
| 20:15.31 | LinuxNIT | NoName, the /etc/apt/pref file tells apt/synaptic what version to use |
| 20:15.33 | wasynyt | NoName why |
| 20:15.39 | NoName | To update it |
| 20:15.43 | NoName | oh ok |
| 20:16.04 | LinuxNIT | otherwise it will probaly grab the old version |
| 20:16.14 | NoName | Yeah I think your right, Think it did. |
| 20:16.30 | LinuxNIT | after you edit the file refresh again |
| 20:16.34 | wasynyt | does thanas custom scripts work with other wine versions? |
| 20:16.55 | LinuxNIT | /etc/apt/preferences is the exact name of the file |
| 20:16.58 | GPLGeek | it calls wine, it does not care what wine it is |
| 20:17.00 | NoName | is the pref folder hidden? I cant find it |
| 20:17.04 | GPLGeek | so yes it works |
| 20:17.16 | NoName | Only see apt.conf.d folder |
| 20:17.20 | LinuxNIT | NoName, /etc/apt/preferences |
| 20:17.38 | GPLGeek | preferences is a FILE not a folder |
| 20:17.40 | LinuxNIT | you will probably have to create the preferences file |
| 20:17.48 | NoName | I dont see tthe file also |
| 20:17.51 | LinuxNIT | you will probably have to create the preferences file |
| 20:17.52 | GPLGeek | oh lol |
| 20:17.54 | NoName | nothing close to it really. |
| 20:17.54 | GPLGeek | run wine once |
| 20:18.01 | GPLGeek | it will create most files |
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| 20:18.21 | LinuxNIT | NoName, just do this.... |
| 20:18.34 | LinuxNIT | as root run scite /etc/apt/preferences |
| 20:18.41 | msinhore | LinuxNIT, is possible set the icons for grow in sie on the bar equal macOS bar? |
| 20:19.07 | NoName | Alright done nothing in there |
| 20:19.09 | GPLGeek | I think the zoom is able to change |
| 20:19.22 | LinuxNIT | right |
| 20:19.27 | LinuxNIT | add these lines |
| 20:19.36 | LinuxNIT | Package: wine |
| 20:19.36 | LinuxNIT | Pin: release l=WineHQ APT Repository |
| 20:19.37 | LinuxNIT | Pin-Priority: 1000 |
| 20:19.42 | LinuxNIT | and save |
| 20:21.14 | NoName | "Could not save file '/etc/apt/preferences'. Save under a different name?" |
| 20:21.26 | wasynyt | are you runing as root |
| 20:21.34 | NoName | How can I run as root? |
| 20:21.40 | NoName | su? |
| 20:21.46 | wasynyt | type su in terminal |
| 20:21.49 | LinuxNIT | yes |
| 20:21.56 | NoName | aight thought I had to do it a different way |
| 20:22.06 | NoName | sorry:\ |
| 20:22.11 | LinuxNIT | no worries |
| 20:22.19 | wasynyt | :) |
| 20:22.29 | NoName | Alrighty, saved |
| 20:22.39 | NoName | reload Synatic? |
| 20:22.41 | LinuxNIT | ok now go to snaptic and refresh |
| 20:22.43 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 20:23.14 | NoName | weird, Installed version = 0.9.9-i then under latest its nothing. |
| 20:23.34 | NoName | 0.9.9-1* |
| 20:23.43 | wasynyt | then the latest in repos is 0.9.9* |
| 20:24.15 | wasynyt | you should try if it works well for you and only after that try to update it |
| 20:24.33 | LinuxNIT | did you refresh synaptic? |
| 20:24.42 | NoName | Yes =\ |
| 20:24.48 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 20:24.52 | LinuxNIT | any errors? |
| 20:25.04 | NoName | nop, just under wine the lastest version shows nothing |
| 20:25.08 | LinuxNIT | k |
| 20:25.13 | LinuxNIT | tun this command |
| 20:25.30 | LinuxNIT | more /etc/apt/preferences |
| 20:25.52 | LinuxNIT | and paste the result in pastebin.com |
| 20:26.15 | LinuxNIT | same with ... |
| 20:26.19 | LinuxNIT | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.58 | LinuxNIT | give me the urls :> |
| 20:28.46 | NoName | http://pastebin.com/614911 |
| 20:29.00 | NoName | I put them both in there. |
| 20:30.20 | LinuxNIT | you dont have a line for windhq in the sources.list file |
| 20:30.38 | NoName | below --Heres the source.list thingy ;)-- |
| 20:30.50 | NoName | Line 12 it begins |
| 20:31.18 | LinuxNIT | what line is this one >>>>>deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/ |
| 20:31.20 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 20:31.40 | LinuxNIT | i mean |
| 20:31.42 | LinuxNIT | deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/ |
| 20:31.46 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 20:32.05 | NoName | Weird, there isnt one |
| 20:32.08 | LinuxNIT | :) |
| 20:32.16 | LinuxNIT | thats why there is no latest version |
| 20:32.23 | LinuxNIT | you need to add that line |
| 20:32.24 | NoName | ha so I need to put that into sources |
| 20:32.30 | wasynyt | yes |
| 20:32.33 | LinuxNIT | yes on its own line |
| 20:33.03 | NoName | let me see if I remember, scite /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 20:33.11 | LinuxNIT | yeah that will work |
| 20:33.15 | wasynyt | yes.. and as root |
| 20:33.16 | LinuxNIT | as root |
| 20:33.41 | NoName | Alright now to refresh Stnaptic? |
| 20:33.45 | LinuxNIT | yeah |
| 20:34.22 | NoName | yay shows 0.9.10~winehw1-2 |
| 20:34.26 | LinuxNIT | ok |
| 20:34.28 | wasynyt | :) |
| 20:34.33 | LinuxNIT | is anything installed? |
| 20:34.37 | LinuxNIT | any wine that is? |
| 20:34.39 | NoName | installing it now |
| 20:34.56 | LinuxNIT | cool |
| 20:35.06 | NoName | wtf 1 hr dll? |
| 20:35.10 | LinuxNIT | ? |
| 20:35.11 | wasynyt | ? |
| 20:35.12 | NoName | 48 min |
| 20:35.17 | NoName | its dllign some package file |
| 20:35.21 | wasynyt | what speed |
| 20:35.22 | NoName | taking 50 min |
| 20:35.26 | NoName | 4070 b |
| 20:35.29 | NoName | wowww sl0w |
| 20:35.29 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 20:35.36 | LinuxNIT | damn |
| 20:35.36 | wasynyt | x kb/s |
| 20:35.44 | NoName | No kb what so ever yet =\ |
| 20:35.44 | wasynyt | or b/s |
| 20:35.49 | NoName | b/s haha |
| 20:35.53 | LinuxNIT | dude he is below kb/s |
| 20:35.56 | NoName | I never downloaded this slow |
| 20:36.05 | LinuxNIT | well tech 4kb/s |
| 20:36.07 | NoName | im useally 300 kb/s |
| 20:36.15 | LinuxNIT | sucks |
| 20:36.19 | LinuxNIT | i dunno why |
| 20:36.35 | NoName | wow 56 min, i hope this works if not im going to be upset |
| 20:36.47 | LinuxNIT | worked for me |
| 20:36.50 | wasynyt | :D |
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| 20:37.06 | NoName | gee, i guess ill go ride my atv for awhile |
| 20:37.13 | LinuxNIT | lol |
| 20:37.16 | wasynyt | :) |
| 20:37.30 | NoName | guh, c yall in a few.Thanks for the help |
| 20:37.41 | wasynyt | your welcome |
| 20:37.43 | LinuxNIT | np anytime |
| 20:38.04 | LinuxNIT | ill probably be gone when ya get back ;-/ |
| 20:38.27 | LinuxNIT | but looks like its taken care of ;) |
| 20:38.33 | wasynyt | :D |
| 20:38.41 | LinuxNIT | well im out guys |
| 20:38.47 | LinuxNIT | later and have fun |
| 20:38.56 | wasynyt | ok |
| 20:41.14 | NoName | wtf |
| 20:41.15 | NoName | W: Failed to fetch http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.10~winehq1-2_i386.deb |
| 20:41.15 | NoName | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:41.26 | NoName | you gotta be kidding me |
| 20:41.53 | wasynyt | :/ |
| 20:42.48 | wasynyt | if i were you i would refresh the list and try again |
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| 20:50.13 | IcedEarth | can anyone help with an upgrade issue? |
| 20:50.23 | wasynyt | what kind of |
| 20:50.44 | IcedEarth | i have upgraded |
| 20:50.47 | IcedEarth | and lost entrance |
| 20:50.57 | IcedEarth | i did an apt-get upgrade |
| 20:51.47 | wasynyt | hmm |
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| 20:52.07 | IcedEarth | i am on live cd now |
| 20:52.09 | IcedEarth | for the moment |
| 20:52.12 | IcedEarth | I am unsure how to fix it |
| 20:53.41 | IcedEarth | is that roxville |
| 20:53.43 | IcedEarth | I think it is |
| 20:54.02 | wasynyt | Thanatermesis, you here? |
| 20:55.20 | IcedEarth | i knew it |
| 20:55.26 | wasynyt | :d |
| 20:55.37 | wasynyt | roxville, IcedEarth can anyone help with an upgrade issue? |
| 20:55.37 | wasynyt | wasynyt what kind of |
| 20:55.37 | wasynyt | IcedEarth i have upgraded |
| 20:55.37 | wasynyt | IcedEarth and lost entrance |
| 20:55.37 | wasynyt | IcedEarth i did an apt-get upgrade |
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| 20:56.49 | dats | hello |
| 20:56.54 | IcedEarth | hello dats |
| 20:57.16 | wasynyt | evening |
| 20:57.54 | IcedEarth | :( |
| 20:58.12 | Thanatermesis | wasynyt very busy, but yes |
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| 20:58.34 | wasynyt | wasynyt IcedEarth i have upgraded |
| 20:58.34 | wasynyt | wasynyt IcedEarth and lost entrance |
| 20:58.34 | wasynyt | wasynyt IcedEarth i did an apt-get upgrade.. where was the solutions for this |
| 20:58.35 | IcedEarth | he was going to ask about me loosing entrance |
| 20:58.48 | IcedEarth | because of upgrade I did |
| 20:59.03 | IcedEarth | I have looked on web page and tried to follow instructions |
| 20:59.09 | IcedEarth | but no luck for me :( |
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| 21:00.13 | Elive_user24 | ciao |
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| 21:00.33 | roxville | wasynyt, have you tried reinstalling entrance? |
| 21:00.39 | IcedEarth | its me not him |
| 21:00.43 | IcedEarth | who has lost it |
| 21:00.46 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 21:00.49 | IcedEarth | i didnt think of that |
| 21:00.55 | IcedEarth | it starts entrance |
| 21:00.59 | IcedEarth | but it just doesnt happen |
| 21:01.09 | roxville | ok... it's "hard" to remove entrance |
| 21:01.09 | IcedEarth | I know I could delete my .xauthority |
| 21:01.14 | IcedEarth | and see if that helps |
| 21:01.15 | IcedEarth | maybe |
| 21:01.20 | roxville | hold on |
| 21:01.45 | withoutclass | entrance broke eh? |
| 21:01.45 | roxville | it will ask a question, and you have to type just what it says |
| 21:02.06 | roxville | after, just install it again with apr-get |
| 21:02.07 | IcedEarth | yes entrance broke |
| 21:02.08 | roxville | ok? |
| 21:02.11 | IcedEarth | after I upgraded today |
| 21:02.17 | roxville | apt-get |
| 21:02.18 | IcedEarth | what question will it ask? |
| 21:02.19 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 21:02.47 | IcedEarth | thanks |
| 21:03.31 | withoutclass | hmm |
| 21:03.32 | NoName | weird, I downloaded the package over firefox and it worked on Stnaptic it fails, wasynyt |
| 21:03.37 | withoutclass | i upgraded yesterday and i had no prollem |
| 21:04.04 | wasynyt | NoName .. there could be some problems with their repo |
| 21:04.19 | NoName | Yeah im guessing so |
| 21:04.38 | NoName | so can I install the .deb even tho I downloaded it over firefox |
| 21:05.04 | wasynyt | you should.. as root dpkg -i package |
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| 21:05.51 | NoName | gah wome weird error |
| 21:05.57 | wasynyt | like ? |
| 21:06.11 | NoName | dpkg -i wine_0.9.10~winehq1-2_i386.deb |
| 21:06.11 | NoName | Selecting previously deselected package wine. |
| 21:06.11 | NoName | (Reading database ... 63409 files and directories currently installed.) |
| 21:06.11 | NoName | Unpacking wine (from wine_0.9.10~winehq1-2_i386.deb) ... |
| 21:06.11 | NoName | dpkg-deb (subprocess): short read in buffer_copy (failed to write to pipe in copy) |
| 21:06.34 | NoName | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 21:06.34 | NoName | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.04 | wasynyt | do you have wine installed ( i mean the 0.9.9 one |
| 21:07.24 | NoName | No |
| 21:07.33 | wasynyt | ok :S |
| 21:07.45 | withoutclass | the wine update came pretty recently right? |
| 21:07.48 | NoName | Im asking in #winehq, one mentioned saying that the sf link isnt correct or whatever |
| 21:08.18 | roxville | apt, doublemodules |
| 21:08.19 | apt | well, doublemodules is its listed here >>>http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ |
| 21:08.38 | roxville | apt autoraise |
| 21:08.40 | apt | hmm... autoraise is changed by going to Desktop menu > Configuration > Configuration panel > Window Manipulatoin settings > Automatically raise windows on mouse over |
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| 21:40.51 | IcedEarth | is anyone here |
| 21:41.03 | IcedEarth | Im in terminal IRC and cant see any nicks |
| 21:41.25 | Thanatermesis | terminal ? no xchat ? |
| 21:41.29 | IcedEarth | no |
| 21:41.32 | IcedEarth | I have lost entrance |
| 21:41.35 | IcedEarth | so I am using the terminal |
| 21:41.48 | Thanatermesis | when you have lost entrance ? |
| 21:41.51 | Thanatermesis | with what upgrade ? |
| 21:41.54 | IcedEarth | yes |
| 21:41.58 | IcedEarth | I just did apt-get upgrade |
| 21:42.01 | IcedEarth | and it broke after reboot |
| 21:42.06 | Thanatermesis | hum |
| 21:42.08 | IcedEarth | I have removed |
| 21:42.09 | IcedEarth | it |
| 21:42.12 | IcedEarth | and re-installed it |
| 21:42.13 | IcedEarth | twice |
| 21:42.16 | IcedEarth | but still not working |
| 21:42.18 | IcedEarth | very strange |
| 21:42.18 | IcedEarth | !!! |
| 21:42.25 | IcedEarth | Live CD still works though |
| 21:42.28 | Thanatermesis | apt-cache policy entrance |
| 21:42.33 | Thanatermesis | what version looks installed ? |
| 21:42.38 | IcedEarth | ill just check |
| 21:43.29 | IcedEarth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.47 | Thanatermesis | you don't have cvs20060312elive2 for candidate ? |
| 21:44.03 | IcedEarth | hold on |
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| 21:44.22 | IcedEarth | yes that is what is says |
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| 21:44.32 | IcedEarth | I didnt type all of it |
| 21:44.33 | IcedEarth | sorry |
| 21:45.05 | Thanatermesis | very strange... |
| 21:45.14 | Thanatermesis | what about if you launch the command "entrance" ? |
| 21:45.20 | IcedEarth | it tries to run |
| 21:45.26 | IcedEarth | but does not display error |
| 21:45.30 | IcedEarth | i will try again |
| 21:45.40 | IcedEarth | I can do /etc/init/entrance start |
| 21:45.44 | IcedEarth | but it fails |
| 21:45.58 | Elive_user2 | sgrunt |
| 21:46.19 | IcedEarth | no similar to that |
| 21:46.20 | Elive_user2 | someone took my username |
| 21:46.21 | IcedEarth | but it tries |
| 21:46.21 | dererk | apt, pelc to inigo |
| 21:46.23 | apt | ACTION gives a Patadita En Los Cojones to inigo. |
| 21:46.23 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth and if you tipe "startx" by your user, you enter on X ? |
| 21:46.30 | inigo | lol |
| 21:46.38 | Thanatermesis | xD |
| 21:46.44 | dererk | inigo, por guarra! |
| 21:46.50 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user2 what is your username ? |
| 21:46.52 | inigo | o_O |
| 21:46.53 | IcedEarth | fatal IO error 104 |
| 21:46.58 | IcedEarth | if I start x |
| 21:47.14 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth then you have a problem with your graphical system aparently |
| 21:47.14 | lorenx | was lorenz... |
| 21:47.32 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth try from your user: startx /usr/bin/enlightenment |
| 21:47.44 | IcedEarth | Fatal server error: no screens found in xorg log |
| 21:47.44 | Thanatermesis | lorenx is a nick maybe very userd |
| 21:47.46 | Thanatermesis | used |
| 21:47.50 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 21:47.53 | IcedEarth | not root |
| 21:47.54 | IcedEarth | but user |
| 21:47.54 | IcedEarth | ok |
| 21:48.09 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth do you have reconfigured your graphical system ? |
| 21:48.21 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, i have a problem with menu... |
| 21:48.48 | Thanatermesis | lorenx e17 ? |
| 21:48.48 | IcedEarth | Fatal server error: no screens found |
| 21:48.51 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth do you have reconfigured your graphical system ? |
| 21:48.52 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, e16 |
| 21:48.57 | IcedEarth | not that I am aware of |
| 21:49.00 | Thanatermesis | lorenx with root ? |
| 21:49.03 | IcedEarth | only made locale changes |
| 21:49.09 | IcedEarth | during upgrade |
| 21:49.10 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, no |
| 21:49.12 | IcedEarth | perhaps this is it |
| 21:49.13 | IcedEarth | ? |
| 21:49.27 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth no... i don't think |
| 21:49.33 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth nvidia/ati ? |
| 21:49.38 | IcedEarth | ATI |
| 21:49.50 | IcedEarth | Rage Mobility |
| 21:49.51 | Thanatermesis | new kernel ? |
| 21:50.02 | IcedEarth | I dont think the upgrade gave me new kernel |
| 21:50.14 | IcedEarth | how can i check kernel |
| 21:50.20 | Thanatermesis | cat /proc/version |
| 21:50.25 | Thanatermesis | show the result |
| 21:51.01 | IcedEarth | 2.6.12 |
| 21:51.40 | withoutclass | ATI sometimes has this error |
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| 21:51.53 | withoutclass | is the same error i get when i try to use the devel cd's fglrx kernel |
| 21:52.03 | IcedEarth | mmm |
| 21:52.06 | withoutclass | IcedEarth, did you did dist-upgrade or upgrade |
| 21:52.13 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, i have installed a package. seeing the package is not listed in menu i have modify the menu manually. but now in menu i see only "internet" links |
| 21:52.15 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth dpkg -l | grep fgrlx |
| 21:52.16 | IcedEarth | I think I did dist-upgrade |
| 21:52.33 | IcedEarth | I use VESA |
| 21:52.46 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass i think to the problem in the devel release is just to not has installed all the packages needed, can you posible to boot on it for try this ? |
| 21:53.07 | Thanatermesis | lorenx how do you have modified it ? |
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| 21:53.14 | withoutclass | what package do i need to look for? Thanatermesis |
| 21:53.29 | Thanatermesis | lorenx use elpanel for recover your personal configurations and install the package "e16menuedit2" |
| 21:53.33 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, i have not apply the changes! |
| 21:53.46 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass is in /elive/modules/ati (or similar) |
| 21:54.05 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass just enter in the ATI directory and "dpkg -i *deb" |
| 21:54.23 | withoutclass | Thanatermesis, i cannot check right now, but i will later hopefully, i have much coding to do |
| 21:54.24 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, where? |
| 21:54.40 | Thanatermesis | withoutclass and then, "startx /usr/bin/e16" |
| 21:54.45 | lorenx | i have already searched |
| 21:54.56 | Thanatermesis | ok withoutclass |
| 21:55.04 | Thanatermesis | lorenx where what ? |
| 21:55.52 | lorenx | Thanatermesis> lorenx use elpanel for recover your personal configurations and install the package "e16menuedit2" |
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| 21:57.11 | Thanatermesis | the personal configurations are on ".e16" conf |
| 21:57.22 | Thanatermesis | and apt-get install e16menuedit2 |
| 21:59.46 | lorenx | e16menuedit2 è già alla versione più recente. |
| 22:00.07 | IcedEarth | how can I reconfigure my xorg settings |
| 22:00.11 | IcedEarth | is it with debconf |
| 22:00.13 | Thanatermesis | launch it then |
| 22:00.18 | Thanatermesis | or dont works ? |
| 22:00.23 | lorenx | *e16menuedit2 is already at most recent version |
| 22:00.37 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth if you use debconf, you lost all your Elive default configuration |
| 22:00.43 | Thanatermesis | i recomend to edit it manually |
| 22:00.59 | IcedEarth | how can I reset my colours |
| 22:01.03 | IcedEarth | i think this is the problem |
| 22:01.08 | IcedEarth | color depth |
| 22:01.13 | IcedEarth | I think I gave it too much |
| 22:01.22 | IcedEarth | after my screen was being bad |
| 22:01.28 | IcedEarth | but it was my laptop |
| 22:01.29 | Thanatermesis | xconfigurator |
| 22:01.35 | IcedEarth | thanks |
| 22:02.08 | IcedEarth | thankyou |
| 22:02.10 | IcedEarth | it is fixed |
| 22:02.11 | IcedEarth | I am stupid |
| 22:02.23 | Thanatermesis | good :) |
| 22:02.43 | IcedEarth | thankyou I know your time is precious |
| 22:02.46 | Thanatermesis | lorenx do you have the problem with your menu because you have used e16menuedit2 (from elpanel) ? |
| 22:03.13 | Thanatermesis | IcedEarth not very time for make all, hehe |
| 22:03.35 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, yes but i have saved nothing |
| 22:03.55 | Thanatermesis | lorenx do you think to its a bug in e16menuedit2 ? |
| 22:04.13 | Thanatermesis | can you posible to reproduce the same thing for look if is a bug and then report it ? |
| 22:04.39 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, and now without i have done nothing the trasparency on terminal works o_O |
| 22:04.55 | Thanatermesis | hum... very strange |
| 22:04.56 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, i think that is a bug |
| 22:05.28 | lorenx | i do a screenshot |
| 22:05.33 | Thanatermesis | ok lorenx, if is a bug, needs to are reported, i can call the developer, but i need to know the exact steps for reproduce the problem and then locate it |
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| 22:05.39 | Thanatermesis | no... not need |
| 22:06.02 | Thanatermesis | lorenx recover your original e16 configuration with "personal users configuration" in elpanel |
| 22:06.09 | Thanatermesis | and then try again the same thing |
| 22:06.13 | wasynyt | good night everyone |
| 22:06.18 | Thanatermesis | good night wasynyt |
| 22:06.19 | IcedEarth | goodnight |
| 22:07.25 | lorenx | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:10.07 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, if someone give me original menu file i can try to reproduce the problem ane document it better then now |
| 22:11.12 | Thanatermesis | lorenx |
| 22:11.25 | lorenx | oui? |
| 22:11.33 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> the personal configurations are on ".e16" conf |
| 22:11.48 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> lorenx use elpanel for recover your personal configurations |
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| 22:12.14 | Thanatermesis | <Thanatermesis> lorenx recover your original e16 configuration with "personal users configuration" in elpanel |
| 22:13.03 | withoutclass | asfd |
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| 22:15.23 | lorenx | Thanatermesis, how to exit entrance? (i haven't logout voice in menu |
| 22:16.01 | Thanatermesis | control + alt + supr |
| 22:16.11 | lorenx | supr??? |
| 22:16.58 | lorenx | what is it? |
| 22:17.05 | Thanatermesis | mmmh |
| 22:17.13 | Thanatermesis | the magic combination of keys for windows ;) |
| 22:17.15 | sinplomo_ | lorenx, delete |
| 22:17.16 | sinplomo_ | del |
| 22:17.20 | pr0t0cod7 | apt, ctrl+alt+del |
| 22:17.21 | apt | i guess ctrl+alt+del is a famous magic trick! Especially under windows when u need to do it all the time! |
| 22:17.25 | pr0t0cod7 | xD |
| 22:17.27 | Thanatermesis | xDD |
| 22:18.06 | lorenx | aaaah |
| 22:18.21 | lorenx | Lot Of Lol |
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| 22:20.57 | lorenz | ok |
| 22:21.13 | lorenz | leave me register this nick |
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| 22:25.19 | lorenz | ok |
| 22:26.35 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, i have done elive-skel upgrade, choosen .e16, with no results |
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| 22:27.55 | lorenz | it say me: well, all ok |
| 22:27.56 | Thanatermesis | from e17 ? |
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| 22:28.06 | lorenz | i relog. |
| 22:28.23 | Thanatermesis | Elive_user Elive_user2 please change their nickname |
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| 22:29.15 | lorenz | Thanatermesis, on e17 it works. |
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| 22:33.43 | Elive_user | o |
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| 22:36.56 | revdjenk | hello everyone |
| 22:38.12 | revdjenk | well, I'm back to brown.... |
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| 22:38.55 | Elive_user | Finally steam working, thanks all for the help. Hopefully css\cs will work |
| 22:39.45 | revdjenk | apt gives SteveMyers a mountaintop experience |
| 22:40.00 | SteveMyers | that doesn't sound right lol |
| 22:40.19 | revdjenk | better than the other things I've sent your way! |
| 22:40.54 | SteveMyers | lol |
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| 22:49.40 | lorenz | i go to bed. |
| 22:50.04 | lorenz | goodnight all elivers ;) |
| 22:50.06 | revdjenk | g'nite lorenz |
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| 23:02.55 | Elive_user2 | fsd |
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| 23:14.32 | Elive_user | l2p |
| 23:14.32 | Elive_user | l2p l2p |
| 23:16.15 | roxville | Elive_user, are you trying to change nick, or is that klingon? |
| 23:17.01 | roxville | the klingon i can't help you with |
| 23:17.18 | roxville | but to change nick, type: /nick l2p |
| 23:17.23 | roxville | :) |
| 23:19.54 | roxville | yay!!! |
| 23:20.10 | roxville | hiya l2p , welcome to #elive :) |
| 23:20.27 | l2p | Working? |
| 23:20.27 | l2p | I fail :( |
| 23:20.40 | roxville | fail? why? |
| 23:21.06 | l2p | Excellent, long server response time - that's all |
| 23:21.19 | roxville | lol, ok |
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| 23:38.22 | Thanatermesis | 8Notice: 3Repository upgraded with e17, we have recovered the package e-modules with all the extra modules for e17 |
| 23:38.46 | LinuxNIT | sweeeeeet |
| 23:38.52 | LinuxNIT | :> |
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| 23:39.16 | pycs | wow, great.. so i can upgrade my 0.42 e17 now? |
| 23:39.22 | Thanatermesis | yes :) |
| 23:39.54 | pycs | apt-get update? and apt-get dist-upgrade and thats it..? |
| 23:40.45 | Thanatermesis | 8Notice: 3This is the last time to the main repository for e17 are upgraded directly, more info in the News of the Elive site |
| 23:41.48 | pycs | or is it Elive skel? |
| 23:42.21 | musashieb | excuse me i came in half way thruogh your conversation is there a new elive vers?? |
| 23:42.39 | pycs | ok i better use synaptic.. hehe. |
| 23:42.53 | pycs | update for e17.. |
| 23:43.11 | musashieb | ahh |
| 23:43.59 | Thanatermesis | musashieb the last version of Elive is 0.4.2, but if you like... read the topic |
| 23:44.01 | musashieb | y |
| 23:45.24 | musashieb | what does apt-get dist-upgrade do? is that for the distro upgrade? |
| 23:45.55 | musashieb | never mind answered my own question |
| 23:47.38 | pycs | Thanatermesis, is apt-get dist-upgrade or elive skel, because i thought, i've read you talk about this,i just can't remember well.. |
| 23:48.00 | musashieb | dist-upgrade |
| 23:48.03 | musashieb | worked fine |
| 23:48.21 | pycs | oh ok.. |
| 23:48.47 | musashieb | has anyone in here had any trouble with auto mount? |
| 23:48.53 | sinplomo | apt, x en es secularism |
| 23:49.28 | Thanatermesis | pycs apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:49.34 | Thanatermesis | elive-skel is for recover a configuration |
| 23:49.39 | Thanatermesis | and you have elive-skel in elpanel |
| 23:49.53 | pycs | thanks Thanatermesis :) |
| 23:51.14 | pycs | i'm upgrading now.. :) |
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| 23:54.44 | roxville | apt doublemodules |
| 23:54.45 | apt | somebody said doublemodules was its listed here >>>http://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/ |
| 23:55.22 | musashieb | ti looks like after the update I have doubles of some of the desktop modules?? |
| 23:55.40 | LinuxNIT | musashieb, see what apt said |
| 23:59.08 | musashieb | so just delete the entire config directory? |
