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00:29.44TannerI would like to know where to view and edit hardware configurations in Elive.
00:30.04TannerSort of the equivalent of control panel in windows.
00:30.15TannerIf anyone could help.
00:30.31dererkGnight all!
00:31.48Tannerhmm... Gnight... don't think that comes with the cd I have... lol
00:35.22sinplomo<Tanner> Sort of the equivalent of control panel in windows. <= LOL
00:35.25sinplomo:P
00:35.35Tanneryeah... well
00:35.49sinplomoTanner, wich hardware's configuration ?
00:36.42Tanner... the computer's mostly the cideo card: I have a 32 MB on board and a 256 MB PCI card... by the way the graphics are behaving I think it's using the 32 onboard
00:36.54Tanner*video
00:37.36sinplomoTanner, look your /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/XF86Config-4
00:37.46Tannerokay
00:38.11sinplomoIt isn't like the windows control panel
00:38.17Tannerheh
00:38.28sinplomobut in this file you have all X conf
00:38.29sinplomo:)
00:39.16Tanner... just have to be careful not to delete something I shouldn't then eh?
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00:42.15ThanatermesisWelcome to Elive world Elive_user
00:42.50Tannernah... it appears to be using the good one... must be something else... I'll figure it out
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02:04.03Slyder0244anyone around?
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03:09.39TannerSlyder0244, depends on how long ago you asked that.
03:11.03Tanner... and by that I mean, you may not still be around.
03:11.17TannerAnd if you are not, I will not be either.
03:12.28TannerAlright... I'm takin' off.
03:12.38TannerSlyder0244, you're on your own.
04:01.37Slyder0244anyone lurkin about?
04:22.06Slyder0244anyone know how to shut down elive without it making your machine freak out
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08:12.09yardboyim good not that i understand spanish im just guessein how are you
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12:39.02datshello
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12:53.32dererkdats, Hi! :D
13:02.30roxvillehi dererk  how are you today?
13:02.40dererkQuite good
13:02.42dererk:D
13:02.46roxvilleare you gonna puke on me today? :)
13:02.55dererkpuke?
13:03.04roxvillei mean, did you drink last night?
13:03.12dererklol
13:03.21roxvillepuke = throw up = vomit
13:03.23dererkno I did not xD~
13:03.36roxvilleok, good :)
13:08.20dererkAnd you?
13:08.24dererkHow are you?
13:10.06roxvillei'm ok. i had a gig last night, so my voice is a little gone. i srayed up really late, coz it was a pretty good gig, so i was very "up"
13:10.25roxvilleand then, 4 hours later... my daughter wakes me up...
13:10.30roxville:)
13:12.06dererkxD
13:12.19dererkAny song for me? :D
13:13.27roxvillelol, the band , or just me?
13:13.38dererkAnyone
13:13.46dererkThey are cool anyway
13:13.58roxville:)
13:13.59dererkor a whole discography, how's that? xDDD
13:14.27dererkI've already have that
13:14.28dererk:D
13:14.44datshola dererk
13:14.50dererkdats, como va?
13:15.04datspos no muy bien
13:15.09datsno me rula el e-17 ...
13:15.22roxvillethis is a cover of a 70's ballad by the band "Carpenters". The original is VERY slow. we cranked it up a little... and it's not bad!
13:16.10dererkdats, en particular....
13:16.21dererkroxville, what are you waiting? xDDD :D
13:17.29datsmira
13:17.45datsenlightenment: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libedje.so.0: undefined symbol: evas_smart_above_get_set
13:17.53datsesto es la ultima linea
13:18.12datsdererk: alguna idea al respecto ?
13:18.18dererkdats, has hecho todo lo que dice la info de Elivecd.org ?
13:18.42datsmmm
13:18.45datsdererk: uso debian ....
13:18.54roxvilledererk,  what happened?
13:19.32roxvillei'm sorry... i'm looking for a nice 3D box that i can mod...for a nicer synaptic icon in elpanel
13:19.53dererkroxville, I'm waiting for the song you told me :D
13:20.02roxvillei was sending it!
13:20.04dererkdats, Ahh.
13:20.11dererkdats, Ummm...
13:20.34datsestoy dentro de elivecd ...
13:20.37datsa ver que dice :S
13:20.47roxvilledererk,  i'm sending again...
13:21.32dererkroxville, I've already have that one too!!! xD
13:21.43roxvilleoh... ok
13:22.01dererkxDDD
13:22.07datsdererk: .... pero no puedo meter nada de elive en mi debian, no ?
13:22.15dererkdats, Ni idea
13:22.56dererk:D
13:22.58datsvale
13:23.00dats:)
13:25.08dererkroxville, tks :D
13:25.20dererkroxville, So, why didn't you keep sleeping xD
13:25.53roxvilleyou have no idea how persistent a 3 year-old can be!
13:28.12dererkxD
13:30.24dererkroxville, So, I almost forget it, how's your wife?
13:31.17dererkI mean, is she recovering well from the intervention rox?
13:32.03roxvilleintervention?
13:32.13roxvilleoperation?
13:32.56dererkroxville, You told me she had a operation at a hospital.
13:33.00dererkDidn't you?
13:33.02roxvilleshe's fine! she has lost a LOT of weight already...about 20kg's
13:33.02dererkO_o
13:33.08dererk:0
13:33.17dererkroxville, Better for you! :D
13:33.26dererkroxville, remember no childs! xD
13:33.39roxvilleLOL
13:33.46dererk;)
13:33.49dererkBut
13:33.52dererkIs she fine?
13:34.03dererkI mean, Her health
13:34.12roxvilleyeah... i better watch it... i don't think i could handle another one...
13:34.32dererkI see.
13:36.38dererkroxville, Is her health fine too? How does she change (not physicaly)
13:36.44dererk?
13:37.23roxvilleshe's doing good!
13:38.09roxvillei don't know what to say really... she should lose about 30 more kilos...maybe 40
13:38.40roxvilleand then she'll be a VERY nice woman to look at!... and do other things with, too :)
13:38.59dererk:D
13:39.29dererkroxville, Is she bad-tempered by that or she is taking it quite good?
13:40.15dererkroxville, is "ter.." the name of you wife?
13:42.19roxvilleteresa
13:42.49dererkright
13:43.01dererkHow much weight did she have?
13:43.04roxvilleshe was more bad tempered before... she's got quite a temper... but that's ok, coz i love her :)
13:43.28dererk:)
13:43.57roxvillei don't know how much she weighed before... she wouldn't tell me...when you get a wfile you will find out, that certain things... you do NOT ask!
13:44.28dererkroxville, I get that :P
13:44.39dererkI thought she told you
13:44.40TUNIXdoes enlightenment run on 64bit kernels?
13:44.48dererkTUNIX, not yet :(
13:45.11dererkroxville, Well, all the luck for both
13:45.15dererk:)
13:45.25dererkI mean for both and you little girl :D
13:45.25roxvillethank you dererk ! :)
13:45.36roxvillelol
13:46.29TUNIXdoes elive bring 64 support with it?
13:46.56dererkTUNIX, as I said, not yet
13:50.40roxvilleoh TUNIX, i forgot to tell you something... elive does not yet have 64 bit support
13:50.56roxvillepossibly for the 0.5 release...don't know yet
13:51.08roxvilleif that is a priority
13:52.06TUNIXsorry, i thought that elive is based on some other live-cd and maybe brings 64bit kernels with it, so that it doesnt run ;)
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13:58.57dererkajjjjjjjj
13:59.01dererkI hate Thanatermesis
13:59.08dererkI mean my ISP
13:59.11dererkXDDD
13:59.19Thanatermesisapt x en es mean
13:59.40dererkI mean my ISP == Quiero decir, mi ISP
13:59.41dererk:)
14:00.30dererkThanatermesis, cojer, que no te ries de ningun chiste hoy :(
14:00.40Mutaqe onda raza!
14:00.46dererkHola Muta :)
14:00.56Mutaese thana
14:01.00Mutaese dereq
14:01.07Mutaese apt xD
14:01.26ThanatermesisxD
14:01.37dererkxD
14:01.44dererkmalo Thanatermesis :(
14:01.51dererkTe ries de los chistes de otros :(
14:01.58dererkY de los mios no :(
14:02.00dererk:'(
14:02.24Thanatermesisjoer dererk
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14:02.42Thanatermesisapt smyle dererk
14:02.50Thanatermesisapt give a smyle to dererk
14:02.56dererk:(
14:02.58ThanatermesisxDDD
14:03.00Thanatermesistas loco
14:03.02dererkOk...
14:03.05dererkxD
14:04.56dererkxD
14:05.04dererkTengo un lag de puta madre
14:05.05dererkxD
14:05.13dererkrecibi como 15 lineas juntas
14:05.14dererkxDDDD
14:06.56Mutahttp://www.badchecksum.com/texts/ cheken esa pg ta muy interesante
14:07.33Mutalos veo lueguito ando d viaje en otra ciudad AyooO
14:12.50dererkSee you if you have no luck, then
14:12.52dererk:P
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14:13.12ferralihello / bonjour
14:13.57ferraliis anybody here?
14:14.48dererkThanatermesis, por cierto, deja que me ocupe de lo de cedega. En cuanto haya novedades te aviso.
14:15.09ferralii'd like to know
14:15.26ferralii use elive in live cd mode
14:15.27Thanatermesisdererk ok... necesitamos saber lo de la licencia... o mejor hablar con ellos ;)
14:15.38Thanatermesisyes ferrali , anybody here ;)
14:15.40ferraliis it possible to access to internet through wifi with it?
14:15.50ferralilol Thanatermesis
14:16.51Thanatermesisferrali same to debian
14:16.59Thanatermesiswhat driver/card you have ?
14:17.07dererkThanatermesis, Por eso mismo, deja que yo me ocupo de averiguar y luego te pongo al tanto... seguimos luego por que me fui
14:17.32ferralii'm going to check it
14:18.46ferralii think it's Intel PRO WIreless 2200BG Network Connection
14:18.52ferrali(according to windows)
14:19.30Thanatermesisok dererk , perfecto :)
14:19.45Thanatermesisyes ferrali , a 2200 wifi driver...
14:19.57ferrali?
14:20.08Thanatermesismmmh, not is included in the liveCD kernel by default in Elive 0.3, also for the 0.4 next version :/
14:20.19ferraliokay
14:20.22Thanatermesisyou need to wait very posible the 0.5 version... or try to compile it
14:20.24ferraliso impossible
14:20.29ferralino thk
14:20.38Thanatermesisif you install it, is more easy... because you can install in the hard disk, install another kernel, and fun ;)
14:20.44ferralii'm a BiG noobz 4 linux & wifi
14:20.44Thanatermesisor compile the module after
14:20.55Thanatermesishehe, ok, i understand...
14:21.04Thanatermesisbut then... not is very posible to use now, sorry
14:21.18ferrali& 4 my speedtouch usb modem
14:21.18Thanatermesisthe driver not is included, for the 2.6.11 versions of the kernel in Elive
14:21.20ferrali?
14:21.26Thanatermesisthe next version has the same kernel version
14:21.35Thanatermesismmmh, ask to sinplomo about this
14:21.55Thanatermesis'--==(~)==--> apt-cache search speedtouch
14:21.55Thanatermesiselive-speedtouchconf - SpeedTouch configuration
14:22.02Thanatermesislooks good :)
14:22.13Thanatermesistry this:  dpkg -L elive-speedtouchconf
14:22.23ferraliwell i'm acually on windwos
14:22.29ferraliso i keep everything
14:22.35ferrali& i'll try later
14:23.01ferralithks 4 your help
14:23.20ferraliyou did some great work with elive
14:23.31ferralienlightenment rulez!!
14:24.14Thanatermesis:)
14:24.45ferralihow can i know my isp settings 4 speedtouch
14:24.51ferralicuz i live in morocco
14:25.00ferraliand it's not in the list which is in your website
14:26.48ferralifond it
14:26.50ferralifound it
14:26.54rookmootlol
14:27.01rookmoot;)
14:27.41ferrali4 french people
14:27.44ferralibshfr.org
14:27.49ferralibashfr.org
14:28.14ferralisee ya everybody
14:28.16ferralithk uuuuuuu
14:28.25Thanatermesisferrali , sinplomo is from morroco, is very posible to have this speedtouch, ask to he ;)
14:28.32Thanatermesisbah
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14:31.40leftihi, How can I run e17 if I stop X ?
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14:44.33Thanatermesismariodebian, me dicen que el server no tira
14:44.38mariodebianlo se
14:44.42mariodebianse ha debido caer
14:45.17Thanatermesisjustamente estaban probando de instalar un paquete y me han dicho que no tira, jeje
14:45.22TuxMeistermariodebian? jeje, que nick mas oportuno xD
14:45.24Thanatermesissino... que tal va todo ?
14:45.49Thanatermesisel server no tiene mucho trafico con elive, no ?
14:46.08Thanatermesispara la siguiente release supongo que habrá mas trafico, poca gente "lo conoce/usa" realmente
14:46.10mariodebianpues no creo
14:46.16mariodebianhace cuanto que esta de oficial?
14:46.16Thanatermesiscuando lo ponga por default ya sera otra cosa
14:46.18TuxMeisterahora vuelvo chicos
14:46.24mariodebianah todavia no esta...
14:46.26mariodebian:P
14:46.34Thanatermesissi, en las ISO's no esta...
14:46.45Thanatermesisen algunos sitios de las paginas... pero la gente ni se entera de eso por lo visto xD
14:46.52mariodebianes mirror de muchas cosas ya sabes pero ultimamente no se que le pasa que se queda sin red
14:47.03mariodebianno da kernel panic pero se queda sin red
14:47.17mariodebianhabrá que esperar hasta las 5 a.m que se reinicie
14:47.49roxvillebrb
14:48.14Thanatermesishum, que raro...
14:48.21Thanatermesisy no hay ningun mensaje de kernel relacionado ?
14:48.26mariodebianel jueves o miercoles paso lo mismo
14:48.30Thanatermesisy es la maquina, no ? no la conexion..
14:48.50mariodebiansupongo que es la máquina porque si la reinicio funciona bien
14:49.05Thanatermesisque cosas...
14:49.06mariodebiana lo mejor es que la estan capando desde el centro de proceso de datos de la universidad
14:49.18mariodebianno se esta semana me informare .....
14:49.18Thanatermesislo suyo seria hecharle un vistazo cuando tiene el problema.. para ver porque no va
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14:50.12leftido u speak english ?
14:50.33Thanatermesisyes lefti
14:51.55leftiOk :). Can you help me ? I'm tring elive. And I edit XFree86 config. Then run startx (all work great). But How can I start e*17* now ?
14:52.22Thanatermesisin the liveCD mode ?
14:52.38leftiyes
14:52.42Thanatermesistype "setup" :)
14:52.49leftiok, thx
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14:53.17sinplomoThanatermesis, umm ese tio creo que es de mi insti
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14:53.19sinplomoxD
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14:54.33ThanatermesisxD
14:56.33sinplomoThanatermesis, lo tengo en el MSN
14:56.38sinplomoxD
14:56.53sinplomono te preocupes, es buena gente
14:56.53sinplomoxDD
14:57.25Thanatermesisjeje
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14:59.28datsuna pregunta ...
14:59.40datsdeb http://soulmachine.net/breezy unstable/ <- uso este repositorio, me dice que me falta libecore-dev ...
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14:59.50datssabeis que puede estar sucediendo ?
15:08.07Thanatermesisdeb http://soulmachine.net/debian unstable/
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15:57.45TannerTanner has more problems and they are making him sad.
16:00.22TannerDoes anyone know why elive wouldn't be able to access the hard disk at start up?
16:01.16roxvilleTanner, what hard disk?
16:01.37Tannerfor some reason, when I boot up it goes straight to command line
16:02.01Tannerit says something about accessing filesystem failed but it only flashes up for a split second
16:02.44roxvilleok, and then?
16:02.54roxvillecommand line...
16:04.22Tannerum.. it asks me to login sort of like the start up screen for elightenment but in text mode
16:04.43TannerI can login as me... swiutch to su and then reboot but I don't know what else to do
16:04.54roxvilleok
16:05.19roxvillelog in with your normal username and password
16:05.25TannerI tried to run partition morpher from the live cd but it says that filesystem is unclean
16:05.27roxvillethen: startx
16:05.41Tanneryeah?
16:05.47Tannerwhat should happen?
16:05.55Tannerjust so I know if somethings wrong
16:06.07roxvilleyou will most likely get some error messages
16:06.21roxvillebut i'd like to know what they say
16:06.24Tanneroh... and partition morpher said I should run e2fsck
16:06.35roxvilleok
16:06.47roxvilleafter you log in
16:06.56Tanneryeah... alright
16:07.03TannerI'll be back
16:07.11roxvillelog in as root after you log in as user, with su
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16:14.48Tannerhmm... okay
16:14.55Tannerroxville?
16:14.58roxvilleyes
16:15.09Tannerit seems to have logged me into e16
16:15.17roxvilleas root?
16:15.25Tannereverything looks normal
16:15.27Tannerno
16:15.41Tannerit told me I shouldn't run x-chat as root
16:15.49Tannerit said it was stupid
16:15.56Tannerexact words
16:16.01roxvillethen it might be the entrance thing... have you re-installed entrance earlier?
16:16.16roxvillethen you ARE logged in as root
16:16.25roxvillei had the same thing
16:16.31roxvilleit was HELL!
16:16.35roxvillelol
16:16.36Tannerno... I logged back out and then logged in not as root
16:16.54TannerI don't think I reinstalled the entrance
16:16.56roxvilleand you could do that?
16:17.01roxvilleok
16:17.05Tannerno... had to reboot lol
16:17.21roxvilleahhh
16:17.40TannerI'm sure I didn't reinstall the entrance thing
16:17.43roxvillewhen you are logged in as root in console mode... type "exit"
16:17.50Tannerokay
16:18.01Tannerumm... I'll tell you what happened
16:18.15TannerI logged out for the night and left it on the login screen
16:18.40Tannerthe next morning when I tried to choose e17 instead of the default e16 it wouldn't let me
16:18.57TannerI pressed the shut down button and it shut down but then it gave me this
16:19.37roxvilleyes, there is a bug in entrance... the clickable area becomes VERY small
16:19.51Tannerheh... wierd
16:19.55roxvillethana has emailed the entrance-dude about it
16:19.58roxvilleyep
16:20.20Tannerbut that doesn't explain why it would be unable to mount local filesystems
16:21.29roxvilleno
16:21.59roxvillebefore you do anything else... when in console.. log in as user, the into root
16:22.09roxvilleor directly to root if you rather
16:22.26TannerWARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause SEVERE filesystem damage.
16:22.30Tannerhmm
16:22.58roxvilleand type e2fsck
16:23.03roxvilleand let it run
16:23.18Tanneralright
16:23.24TannerI'll be back again
16:29.31roxvillei have to take my daughter outside for a while... she's going crazy
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16:30.13roxvilleplease tell tanner to slow down and not log out so quickly... he possibly has a really fucke elive when he gets back now
16:30.25roxvillelol, speak of the devil...
16:30.28Tannerheh
16:30.52Tannerdoesn't appear any more fucked up than usual
16:31.03roxvilleyou have to unmount the filesystem first
16:31.05Tannerfixed a bunch of errors
16:31.12roxvilleok, maybe you were lucky
16:31.16roxvillegood
16:31.22roxvillei had the same
16:31.29Tannerbut didn't fix the mounting local filesystem error
16:32.22roxvilledoes it say the name of the local filesystem?
16:33.00roxvillehda possibly
16:33.06Tannernope but I think /dev/hda2 has errors on it
16:33.20Tannerthat's the partition elive is installed on
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16:34.34Tannerbut if it can't mount this fs why can I run this?
16:34.59r3texe17 doesn't start for me =( i just get a blank white screen
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16:35.05r3texneither does entrance
16:35.18Tannermaybe you have the same problem as me! ;)
16:35.29innovatiTANNER!
16:35.34roxvillelol
16:35.36Tanneryou can try what roxville tells you
16:35.45Tannerstupid tom
16:35.52innovatiroxville: I can't get a monitor to work
16:35.54roxvillei'm not sure if that is a good idea right now...
16:35.57TannerI somehow blame all my problems on you
16:36.07Tannerlol roxville
16:36.10innovatiroxville: can you come over?
16:36.14Tannerheh
16:36.24roxvillemy daughter let me sleep 4 hours last night, i'm pretty fucked in the head
16:36.33r3texTanner:  do you have an ATI card by any chance?
16:36.36innovatiwell, I need some help here
16:36.42roxvillesure innovati if you are in charleston, sc!
16:36.52TannerATI Radeon 9600
16:37.11innovatiwell, I need some help here: Samsung SyncMaster713v, card: ATI Radeon 9550
16:37.14Tannerand he is not
16:37.26r3texTanner:  oh, i have a FireGL card
16:37.29roxvilleTanner, : umount /dev/hda2
16:37.38Tannerokay
16:37.39roxvilleNOT "unmount"
16:37.44roxvilleUMOUNT
16:37.45innovatiI can't seem to get XFREE86 working with this new monitor
16:37.50Tannerokay
16:37.54r3texTanner:  if i use the ati xdriver the screen doesn't get to  the white screen part
16:37.54Tanneras root?
16:37.58r3texjust the black screen part
16:38.23roxvillethen run e2fsck again... and see what happens... it may take a little while
16:38.41Tannerthe device is busy
16:38.44r3texTanner:  oh you have harddisk problems?
16:38.53roxviller3tex, if you do your upgrades and install xorg...which is included in the upgrades
16:39.01Tannersort of... we don't really know... we suspect so
16:39.14r3texroxville:  oooh, e17 doesn't like XFree86?
16:39.16roxvilleok, i'm sorry to say: this is out of my league
16:39.20Tannerbut I was getting angry at my graphics card before... you missed it
16:39.51roxvilleit's not e17 r3tex
16:40.14Tannerinnovati, should nexuiz run on all systems?
16:40.23innovatiTanner: it should, why?
16:40.36Tannerjust wondering... having tried it yet
16:40.42innovatiTanner: I can configure it nicely for you
16:40.46Tannerhow do I run a .exe on elive?
16:40.56roxvillebut right now... i don't know what it is... my head is soooo messy now... i gotta take my daughter out for a walk... get her some winter socks
16:40.56Tannerfrom the run command?
16:41.00innovatiit's cross-platform - it should run on all platforms on all systems
16:41.02roxvilleK-mar sounds good
16:41.08Tanneralright... thanks roxville
16:41.20Tannerrelax. get some sleep
16:41.24Tannerbuy some socks
16:41.28Tannerwe have snow here
16:41.32roxvillei am REALLY sorry, but this is truly oput of my league... right now
16:41.37innovatiTanner, due to the way darkplacesd engine loads the data, you have to exwecute it from within it's own directory
16:41.38Tannerheh
16:41.51Tanner... and that means?
16:41.56roxvillepls as Thanatermesis instead... he really should know what to do
16:42.03Tannerwill do
16:42.10roxvillethx
16:42.15innovatiso going ./home/tanner/nexuiz/nexuiz-linux-686-sdl might not work
16:42.19roxvilleand again: i am so sorry :/
16:42.25innovatiit might load darkplaces, but not the Nexuiz media
16:42.27Tannernot your fault
16:42.32r3tex=/
16:42.36Tanner... I don't get it
16:42.37Thanatermesiswhat is the problem ?
16:42.45Tanneroh! sweet
16:42.57roxvilleit's not a job, it's an adventure!
16:42.58innovatibut cd /home/tanner/nexuiz/ && ./nexuiz-linux-686-sdl would
16:42.58roxvillebbl
16:43.17r3texThanatermesis:  e-dr17 only loads a white screen then stops
16:43.17Tannerumm... error on start up: failure mounting local filesystem
16:43.31Tannerr3tex, can go first
16:43.38r3tex^^
16:43.38Thanatermesisr3tex entrance returns to entrance ?
16:43.39innovatiTanner: that answer it?
16:44.08Tannersorry... ummm... where do I type what?
16:44.18r3texThanatermesis:  entrance never actually starts, and if i start enlightenment it shows a white screen and nothing more
16:45.03Tannerinnovati, I changed to the right directory in terminal and typed Nexuiz.exe
16:45.12innovatiwindows?
16:45.15Tannerthat is obviously a windows only thing
16:45.33Tannerno... here... which would explain it's not workingness
16:45.43innovati./(executable) for linux, so ./nexuiz-linux-686-sdl maybe?
16:46.20Tanneris ./nexuiz-linux-686-sdl the thing I should run for linux? not nexuiz.exe
16:46.34Thanatermesisr3tex cat /var/log//var/log/XFree86.[0-3]* | grep EE
16:46.48innovatiTanner: the .exe is a windows executable, not linux - useless
16:47.20Tannerwhat is the equivalent of a .exe in linux then? is there one?
16:47.26innovatiTanner, well, you are running nexuiz, in linux, on a 686 (not ppc or 64), and you can use sdl or glx
16:47.26r3texThanatermesis:  no errors
16:47.40Thanatermesisr3tex startx /usr/bin/enlightenment
16:47.55innovatiTanner: any file can be executable, it isn't determined by the file format like in windows, it has to do with the permissions
16:47.57Tannerokay thanks
16:48.01r3texThanatermesis:  i can't just write it in my .xsessions?
16:48.16TannerI'll try that after I get this fs problem sorted out
16:48.16innovatiThanatermesis: I have an xfree86 configuration problem
16:48.18Thanatermesisno r3tex , your xsession don't works with entrance
16:48.28Thanatermesislaunch it from the console r3tex and you go to e17
16:48.45r3texThanatermesis:  yeah .xsessions has "enlightenment" in it
16:48.46Thanatermesisinnovati in the liveCD mode ?
16:48.48r3texok i'll try
16:48.56innovatiThanatermesis: no, HD deployment
16:49.03r3texThanatermesis:  i might mention, i'm running XFree86
16:49.04Thanatermesisinnovati resolution problem ?
16:49.05r3texis that ok?
16:49.13Thanatermesisyes, its ok
16:49.52innovatiwell, I have here a Samung Syncmaster 713v monitor, and an ati radeon 9550 card, and it all works, but I can't get the resolution I want, or one that I don't want.
16:50.20r3texok i try now then
16:50.24Thanatermesisinnovati upgrade to xorg if you have bad resolution detected... its because Elive 0.3 works with the autodetections for xorg
16:50.28innovatiThanatermesis: it has this message in the middle of my screen that says: Not Optimum Mode.  Recommended mode: 1280x1024, 60hz
16:50.46innovatibut I can't get it to configure right
16:50.57Thanatermesistry vhsync
16:51.08innovatiI tried xfree86config many times, and it seems to be related to the sync options
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16:51.40innovatithe range from Samsung doesn;t work
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16:51.54innovatiwhen it says "60hz" is that hsync or vsync?
16:51.55Thanatermesisfrom vhsync detection ?
16:52.07Thanatermesisno no, vhsync is a command included in Elive ;)
16:52.29innovatiit doesn't seem to work here
16:52.39Tannerwhen you exit it's reboot vhsync and something else
16:52.47r3texThanatermesis: ok i found one thing =/ sh: cannot open /usr/share/enlightenment/data/other/applications.tar.gz: no such file
16:52.48Thanatermesisbut you look your monitor model ?
16:52.48innovatioh
16:52.58r3texand ::::Enlightenment Error::::
16:53.02innovatimonitor is Samsung SyncMaster713v
16:53.17Thanatermesiso_O r3tex
16:53.30innovatihow do I use vhsync then?
16:53.34Tannersyncmaster... vhsync should work... ;)
16:53.36Thanatermesisi don't have this r3tex
16:53.55r3texok :(
16:54.04Thanatermesiswait, i have
16:54.18Thanatermesislook if you have this in your system r3tex
16:54.21Tannerr3tex, keep in mind that Thanatermesis didn't write elightenment
16:54.39r3tex*keeping in mind*
16:54.44Tannerheh
16:54.49Thanatermesisinnovati if vhsync shows your good monitor, then type "vhsync -f" and it writes your conf's file
16:55.04innovatihow do I use it though?
16:55.15innovaticommand not found it says on the command line
16:55.33Thanatermesisshow me the error innovati
16:55.39Thanatermesisvhsync don't found ?
16:55.56Thanatermesisyes... with root ;)
16:56.02innovati-bash: vhsync: command not found
16:56.07innovatioh
16:56.10innovatibrb then
16:56.28Thanatermesisr3tex you are in elive, correct ?
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16:58.01r3texThanatermesis: no in debian \./
16:58.28innovatibrb, got it to run, now going to test it
16:58.34Thanatermesisheh
16:58.42Thanatermesisr3tex and the packages is from Elive repo ?
16:59.03r3texno from that main developer that makes enlightenment packages for debian
16:59.10r3texthey are not the same as elive packages?
17:00.19r3texThanatermesis: did you have that file/directory?
17:00.32Thanatermesismmmmh, soulmachine repositories ?
17:00.57Thanatermesisyes, i have
17:00.58Thanatermesistry this:
17:01.19Thanatermesisapt-cache show enlightenment | grep ersion
17:01.34Thanatermesisno....
17:01.40Thanatermesisapt-cache policy enlightenment
17:01.45Thanatermesiswhat is the version candidate ?
17:03.03r3texthe candidate is 1:0.16.7.2-1
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17:03.25r3texbut installed is 0.16.999.018-1
17:03.31Thanatermesisyou need to install the 0.16.9999 versions, for enlightenment and enlightenment-data packages
17:03.37Thanatermesisoh, ok
17:03.45r3texhmm *data*
17:03.46Thanatermesisthen, look for enlightenment-data package
17:03.58r3texooooh
17:04.01r3texi have old data cacca
17:04.06innovatiThanatermesis: yes, vhsnc worked, but it still doesn't want to run @ 1280
17:04.06Thanatermesis;)
17:04.28Thanatermesisinnovati this is posible because the driver...
17:04.42Thanatermesisinnovati try "ati" or "vesa" in the file of configuration
17:04.43innovatiThanatermesis: it dies half-way through adjusting
17:04.44Thanatermesisedit it manually
17:04.54r3texThanatermesis: how do i tell it to install the non-debian version,  the soulmachine version?
17:04.57innovatiThanatermesis: edit what, the /etc/X11/XF86Config?
17:05.10Thanatermesisinnovati you have now the good refresh'es, change now the driver only ;)
17:05.23innovatiThanatermesis: I did, but X won't start, says no screens were found
17:05.42innovatiThanatermesis: change driver from radeon to something flgrx or something?
17:05.46r3texdamn, 22Mb
17:06.50Thanatermesisr3tex i don't sure, you need to edit a file of configuration... but i make this with aptitude, launch "aptitude", search with "/", enter in the package with "enter", slide down and loook the versions, type "+" in your desired version, for go back type "q", and for install and make changes, type "g"
17:06.51Thanatermesisthis is all r3tex ;)
17:07.05innovatiTanner: get Nexuiz running yet?
17:07.56Thanatermesisinnovati yes, try diferents drivers, im not sure what... make a backup copy of this file and launch "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", its the better way to configure but im not sure if works, also you look then the diferents posibilities of drivers
17:08.14Thanatermesiswhat is nexuiz ?
17:08.32innovatiThanatermesis: a 3d arena shooter I worked on: http://www.nexuiz.com
17:08.39innovatiThanatermesis: cross-platform, GPL
17:08.40Thanatermesislol
17:09.10r3texWOHOOO!!!
17:09.12r3texit worked
17:09.16r3texso friggin kickass =))
17:09.19r3texbrb
17:09.38Thanatermesislol face http://www.nexuiz.com/public/12.jpg
17:11.09Thanatermesislooks nice
17:11.11Tannerinnovati, gotta get my prob fixed first
17:11.13Thanatermesiswhat is the problem Tanner ?
17:11.35Tannerumm... error on start up: mount local filesytem: failure
17:11.35innovatiTanner: :P
17:11.48Tannerdoesn't load that login screen
17:11.50Thanatermesismount local filesystem ?  o_O'
17:11.54Thanatermesisin a game ?
17:11.59Tannergoes to a login in in command line
17:12.06Tannerno... on boot up
17:12.27Thanatermesiswhere are you now ?
17:12.39Tannerwe ran e2fsck and it fixed a bunch of error but didn't fix that
17:12.56Tannerfrom the command line I logged in and then ran startx
17:13.53Thanatermesisyou can't start Elive installed ?
17:14.28Tannerwell i can and i'm running it right now but not like it's supposed to
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17:14.42TannerI don't get the GUI start up only the command line
17:15.08Tannerand I can't choose between e16 and e17... it goes right to e16
17:15.09Thanatermesislaunch entrance
17:15.27Tannerfrom the command line after I log in?
17:15.32Thanatermesisyes
17:15.32Thanatermesisor
17:15.42Thanatermesis/etc/init.d/entrance start
17:16.25Tanneralright
17:16.28Tannerbrb
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17:18.58r3texhey =D
17:19.00r3texeverything works awesome
17:19.16r3texnow, to try keybindings and gl acceleration
17:19.22r3texentrance doesn't work but oh well
17:19.25r3texi'll get to that later
17:19.33Tannersays that X is not the default display manager and cannot start
17:19.46Tannertells me reinstall entrance
17:20.16Tannerthat's for /etc/init.d/entrance start
17:20.27Tannerentrance doesn't do anything
17:22.49Tannerpartition morpher won't let me delete the partition either
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17:23.04TannerI think I'm just gonna try reinstalling everything
17:23.16Tannerif I just reinstall over top will it work?
17:24.44TannerI'd like to format the partition first
17:26.05aro_garthaakhey
17:26.13innovatiwhoops
17:26.29innovatikinda just felt so natural there
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17:33.36Elive_user2hi
17:33.38innovatihey there elive user
17:34.05Elive_user2how to remove these small things (applets?) on the lower right in e17?
17:34.54innovatileft-click, modules, find the module you don't want, and turn it off
17:35.19Elive_user2ahh alright! thanks innovati
17:35.39Elive_user2i rightclicking the module, and then searching for some removal :)
17:36.37Thanatermesisppl...
17:36.40Thanatermesistry erme  ;)
17:36.46Thanatermesisapt-get install erme
17:37.45innovatiwuzzit?
17:37.59Thanatermesisfor configure/manager more easier e17 :)
17:38.12Thanatermesisbut im making elpanel... this is for configure all system ;)
17:38.21Thanatermesiselpanel launch's also erme and another things
17:39.00r3texis packages.debian.org going slow??
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17:41.27Thanatermesisi can't connect
17:42.26innovatihow do you set a drive to automount?
17:43.39Thanatermesisthis is a feature for the next release ;)
17:43.47innovatican it be installed here?
17:44.05Thanatermesisapt x en es can it be installed here?
17:44.22Thanatermesismmmh... yes, not easy but yes
17:44.40Thanatermesisyou don't are in Elive ?
17:44.56innovatiI am, HD install, but it isnt' here
17:45.15Thanatermesisin the installation of Elive in the hard disk ?
17:45.35innovatiyes
17:45.45Thanatermesismmmh, ok, make this steps:
17:45.52Thanatermesismmmh, what do you use? e17 or e16 ?
17:45.57innovatie17
17:46.04Thanatermesisyou need to delete (make new) the configuration of e17 then
17:46.10innovatihow?
17:46.11Thanatermesislosting your personal config
17:46.17Thanatermesisits ok ?
17:46.26innovatiwhat will be lost?
17:46.34Thanatermesisyour personal configuration of e17
17:46.48innovatieverything I have set up?
17:46.55Thanatermesisyep
17:47.05innovatican I copy it to somewhere else?
17:47.17Thanatermesisnot posible
17:47.25Thanatermesisbecause you need to use the new configuration
17:47.26innovatiwell, what do I have to do?
17:47.28Thanatermesisalso.. its a good idea
17:47.31innovatiwhere is that?
17:47.34Thanatermesissome "bug's" is fixed
17:47.39innovatiokay
17:47.43Thanatermesisfor example oo2 or the minimizations with ibox
17:47.54Thanatermesisapt ivman
17:48.05innovatiright, I fixed oo2 by making ln -s a long time ago
17:48.13innovatiapt-get ivman?
17:48.16Thanatermesisno
17:48.20Thanatermesismake this steps:
17:48.48Thanatermesiswith root:    apt-get update ; apt-get install elive-sounds elive-skel elive-etc ivman
17:49.24Thanatermesiswith your user:  elive-skel upgrade  (select then this three: .elxstrt .ivman .e  )
17:50.46Thanatermesisthis is all... elive-skel upgrade is for upgrade your personal conf, the configuration of the "automounts" not is complete, is in testing, for upgrade to a next version more good, you only type "elive-skel upgrade" and select .ivman
17:51.23Thanatermesisthe actual popups menu's of this feature not is finished, its tests version, but works in very things ;)
17:51.57r3texdoes e17 segfault often for you guys?
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17:52.17Thanatermesiswhat segfault ?
17:52.32Thanatermesise17 is not complete... you are adverticed about posibles segfaults ;)
17:52.44Thanatermesisyou only need to upgrade every time e17 for obtain a newest version
17:54.26r3texi know, just wondering if this is a "every 15 minute" occurence, everyday occurence, or less
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17:56.25r3texdoh, there it happened
17:57.42Thanatermesisits random... in your next upgrade you can posible to have less segfaults... or more
17:57.59Thanatermesisbut every day (generalizating) its better ;)
18:03.52r3texhopefully
18:04.01r3texhow often are the updates on the mirror?
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18:04.19ubuntu-userhey guysm, it's innovati again
18:04.57ubuntu-userI'm running from the ubuntu-live CD because after I updated I couldn't get back into E16 -OR- E17
18:05.13ubuntu-userThanatermesis, what happened?
18:06.00r3tex=o
18:06.01r3texdoh
18:06.15Thanatermesisubuntu-user no menu's in entrance ?
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18:06.24r3texwhell XRANDR isn't stable yet, i can vouche for that
18:06.29r3texas a rendering engine
18:06.32Thanatermesisr3tex for upgrade all... apt-get dist-upgrade
18:06.56Thanatermesisyes, i know... but you don't use ;)
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18:21.31roxvilleany luck guys?
18:21.40roxvilleooooohhh not much, eh?
18:33.57pr0t0cod7apt derniere
18:34.00pr0t0cod7pff
18:34.06pr0t0cod7apt x fr en derniere
18:34.32roxvilleLOL
18:34.36pr0t0cod7apt x fr en dernière
18:34.43pr0t0cod7:P
18:35.25pr0t0cod7apt x en fr latest
18:35.35pr0t0cod7mouai
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18:46.47Tannerroxville, I fixed it
18:47.08roxvilleTanner, you did? GREAT!
18:47.43roxvilleawesome dude! remember to try to add what you did ro your list... then you can give it to me! lol
18:47.51TannerI don't know if it really counts but I just deleted the partition and reinstalled. I wanted to change the filesystem anyways.
18:48.24roxvilleok, that may actually help a bit... but now you may get the same probs again, as you have to update
18:48.47Tanneryeah. I know. But cross fingers eh?
18:49.52roxvilleof course!
18:50.21roxvillea lot of the probs are listed on www.elivecd.org/bugs
18:50.58roxvillehttp://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/
18:51.06roxvillethat is the correct link
18:51.26Tanneryeah... I've already got the site book marked
18:52.14roxville:)
18:52.44roxvilletanner... it's not easy to start with a distro as young as elive
18:52.49roxvillebut...
18:52.58roxvilleif you stick with it for a while
18:53.08roxvilleyou will learn a lot...and fast!
18:54.23TannerI can't really go back to windows now anyways because whenever I boot it and see the little grey bar at the bottom and text and icons I puke a little bit in my mouth
18:54.54TuxMeisterTanner, hahaha
18:55.04TuxMeisteri can understand that
18:55.05roxvillelol, i know... and the more linux you learn, the less you understand windows
18:55.20TuxMeisteri still use windows for some things (school stuff), though
18:55.28roxvilleand... now you can porn-surf all you want without getting spyware!
18:55.37Tannerloo
18:55.41Tannerlol
18:56.03TuxMeisterthat's the best part of using a system as safe as linux
18:56.29roxvillewell... visiting ONE single bad site... even by misteake... can ruin the whole computer
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18:57.02TuxMeisteryep... that's the shit about it, you get things in your machine you've never requested
18:57.08TannerTuxMeister, yeah. Me too. just cause the machines won't run the files I bring
18:57.38TannerI love it when they pop up a download window "hotsex.exe"
18:57.46roxvilleok guys, thana had an idea.. when you can NOT log in as root from entrance... try to type a BAD password
18:57.50Tannercracks me up that some people would run it
18:58.03TuxMeisterand worse thing is the whole system is transparent towards the user... linux isn't. and it's lovely to see what your computer does when you boot your system, isn't it...
18:59.05Tanneryeah... to see what's working and what's not in some cases is a huge boost towards linux
18:59.29TuxMeisteryep... troubleshooting is thousand times easyer and faster this way
19:00.12TuxMeisterwhen a device doesn't work under winblows, you can hardy imagine what can happen... that turns me crazy some times
19:01.18Tannerand if windows came preinstalled on your machine you can't even torch it if it's too fucked up to fix
19:01.30TuxMeisteryep...
19:02.11TuxMeisteri allways said a thing about win: it only can work so bad if it's ment to be like this
19:02.59Tannerthis sucks... I was running synaptic the other night and it was pulling like 700 kb/s... now it's doing 50
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19:03.19root___hello?
19:03.20TuxMeisterthis may be bcouse of server load...
19:03.24Tannerheh... running x-chat in root eh? root
19:03.30TuxMeisterjaja
19:03.33innovatiguys, this isn't gonig so well
19:03.44Tannerwhat did you do now tom?
19:04.10innovatiI did what Thanatermesis told me to do, now I can't log in to E16 or e17
19:04.10Tannerstill the monitor?
19:04.15innovatino, got that fixed
19:04.39Tannerwhat does it do?
19:04.40innovatiso....with nothing, I have to use (right now) irssi, a command line IRC client
19:05.09Tannerdoes it boot right to command line? that's what it was doing with me.
19:05.10Thanatermesisinnovati do you have THIS problem ? http://edevelop.org/node/1774
19:05.21innovatiI have never used it, to learn how, I had to visit it's webpage, in lynx - which I also had to learn to use
19:05.25roxvilleinnovati, do you get entrance at all?
19:05.36innovatiThanatermesis: I can't check that and tell you ATM, without logging out
19:05.54innovatiI get a log-in screen, but as soon as I go to log in, it restarts X
19:06.12Tannerhey! that was exactly my problem
19:06.20Thanatermesismmmmh
19:06.21innovatiwell?
19:06.32Thanatermesisthis bug is documented... from my memory
19:06.33Thanatermesiswait
19:06.51innovatiThanatermesis: how do I fix it - I did what you told me to do and updated those things
19:07.13Thanatermesisah... bad
19:07.24Thanatermesisbad description of how to resolve the bug
19:07.27roxvilleinnovati, did you also re-install entrance
19:07.41innovatiroxville: no i did not - I wasn't nistructed to do that
19:07.48innovatiroxville: how do I go about doing that now?
19:08.00roxvillesoldier... not good :)
19:08.04Thanatermesisinnovati Tanner ... delte your* files: /etc/init.d/entrance  and  /etc/entrance_config.cfg  , then, reinstall entrance and works
19:08.26innovatiour * files?
19:08.26TannerI just completely reinstalled the whole OS
19:08.41innovatiTanner: using ext3 this time?
19:08.47Tanneryeah...
19:08.54innovatiTanner: better anyway
19:08.55Tanner:)
19:09.06roxvilleTanner, to get a new filesystem that's good... but not really needed for other linux stuff
19:09.07TannerI thought so... and it was no loss to me
19:09.43innovatiThanatermesis: so delete /etc/init.d./entrance and /etc/entrance_config.cfg, then what command to re-install entrance?
19:09.51Tannerthe installer recommended ext3 to me after I had already chosen ext2
19:09.58Tannerthat's why I changed it
19:10.04roxvilleand... this way you get to do all the yummy upgrades again!
19:10.21Thanatermesisinnovati, command:  "reinstall-sure-package entrance"
19:10.24Tanners'back up to 700 kb/s
19:10.28Tanner;)
19:10.48innovatibrb after I try that
19:11.34Tannerbut I was trying to delete the partition with the partition still mounted for a while there... it was stupid
19:13.54roxvillelol
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19:21.13innovatialrighty
19:21.14Tannerdid she do?
19:21.15innovatigot back into e16
19:21.25innovatibut can't get into login manager or e17
19:21.32innovatican't find dusplay
19:21.49Tannerwas it something about display manager?
19:22.38r3texhow do i change so there is more resistence to my mouse when i get close to the edge?
19:22.48r3texof the screen, so it doesn't change desktops...
19:23.59Tanneris that even possible?
19:24.39Tannerthat seems like an elightenment problem again.
19:24.56innovatiThanatermesis: I did what you said and now I can't log into e17, but I can get into e16
19:25.32roxvilleinnovati, are you trying as root or as user?
19:25.38innovatias user
19:25.44innovatimust I be root?
19:25.56Thanatermesisinnovati you don't found the menus with the selection of e16/e17 ?
19:26.13roxviller3tex, yes it's possible... but it's sooooo much easier to do it in e16
19:26.19r3texroxville:  heh =))
19:26.20Thanatermesisr3tex erme
19:26.24innovatiit won't bring up entrance_login or e17
19:26.28r3texThanatermesis:  ok
19:27.01roxvilleerme is good
19:27.20Thanatermesisapt x en es bring
19:29.20innovatibrb, going to try something
19:30.59Tannerwhat's the command to bring up the keyboard configuration again?
19:31.35roxvillekeybconf
19:31.54roxvillebut if you reinstalled liev, you need to reinstall keybconf
19:31.55Tannerhmm... seems too easy ;)
19:32.08roxvilleliev= elive lol
19:32.35Tannerheh... but if I perform a synaptic update won't it get keybconf?
19:33.02roxvillenope, you have to install it...you can do it via synaptic though
19:33.21Tannerwhat is it? apt-get keybconf or somthing?
19:33.28roxvilleit's not part of the upgrades
19:33.35roxvilleyep
19:33.44roxvilleapt-get install keybconf
19:34.06TannerI almost remembered
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19:35.27Tanneraww shit! I forgot! Stupid reinstall! my useful commands are gone!
19:36.29roxvilletanner... i have done that sooo many times! i have an external drive where i store stuff like that
19:36.51roxvilleyou could use just a usb pen drive...or a floppy
19:37.22Tanneryeah... I will... just totally forgot about that.
19:38.54roxvilleit's easy to do... man the shit i went through before i even realized i could do it!
19:39.09roxvilleand i was trying out distros like crazy!
19:39.38roxvilleeven the firefox bookmarks i save on the external drive
19:39.59Tannerlol
19:40.23Tannersorry but how do I run this thing now?
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19:42.01innovatialrighty, how do I reinstall entrance
19:42.04innovatithat's what's missing
19:42.08Tannerare you at lars's house tom?
19:42.30innovatiyou bet
19:42.59Tannerplaying with linux with lars... tsk tsk... your gf will know abou this
19:43.17innovatishe does already
19:43.23innovatishe uses linux you fool
19:43.48Tanneryes but whe doesn't use it with lars while your not around... or does she?
19:44.02Tannersorry.. this is totally off topic
19:44.10innovatiThanatermesis: how do I reisntall entrance after deleting the two files and running reinstall-sure-packages entrance
19:44.33Thanatermesishow ?
19:44.40Thanatermesisrunning "reinstall-sure-packages entrance"
19:45.00innovatiit didn't work then, it uninstalled it, but not reinstall
19:45.19Thanatermesisthen.. apt-get install entrance :)
19:45.47innovatiit syas it's already here
19:46.21innovatibut it doesn't recognize it
19:47.14roxvilleTanner sorry but how do I run this thing now? <== in terminal, as root: keybconf
19:47.27Tannerkeybconf
19:47.35Tannerfrig... sorry.. wrong window
19:48.03Thanatermesisinnovati how to posible ? what is the message ?
19:48.19innovatithe error message?
19:48.33roxvilleThanatermesis running "reinstall-sure-packages entrance" <== pakage, not "packages"
19:48.51innovatiyes
19:49.10roxvillelol, i made a typ too
19:49.17Thanatermesismmh, yep
19:49.24Thanatermesis<innovati> Thanatermesis: how do I reisntall entrance after deleting the two files and running reinstall-sure-packages entrance
19:49.25Thanatermesishehe
19:49.42roxvillelol
19:50.02roxvillereinstall-sure-package entrance
19:50.26Thanatermesisyes
19:50.43Thanatermesisinnovati apt-get remove --purge entrance
19:50.45Thanatermesisapt-get install entrance
19:53.49innovatibrb
19:53.52innovatigonna check
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19:56.45innovatihey
19:56.51innovatino, it didn't work
19:57.15innovatiwait...
19:57.18innovatiit may have
19:57.41innovatirebooting
19:58.05Tanneri'll just get in here quick
19:58.29TannerI forget how we made it so that I didn't have to put in the filesystem type whenever I mounted a cd
19:58.36Tannermount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
19:58.43Tannerthis works
19:58.49Tannermount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
19:59.11Tannerthis doesn't. returns: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
19:59.44Tannerroxville, do you remember?
20:00.28roxvillehold on..lemme read it again lol
20:01.02Thanatermesisrebooting ?
20:01.03Thanatermesisapt reboot
20:01.05aptNot on your life cowboy :(, or are you using Window$?
20:01.16roxvillelol
20:01.18Thanatermesisno innovati... reboot not is a good idea
20:01.54roxvilleahh tanner this is you fstab?
20:02.03roxvilleor what is it? lo;l
20:02.17TannerI think we did modify the fstab
20:02.25Tannerhow do you open it again?
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20:03.14roxvilleyes
20:03.17roxvilleas root
20:03.44roxvilletype: or just highlight this and middle-click into terminal
20:04.00roxvillescite /etc/fstab
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20:04.21innovatihey, it works now
20:04.24Tanner/dev/cdrom /cdrom auto ro,user,noauto  0  0
20:04.27roxville/dev/hdc /cdrom    udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0  0
20:04.27roxville/dev/hdd /dvd  udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0  0
20:04.36roxvillethese are my fstab lines
20:05.25roxvilleif you have a fat32 win partition: /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1 vfat noauto,users,exec,umask=000 0 0
20:05.27innovatiis that for auto-mounting?
20:06.07roxvilleno
20:06.09sinplomoat boot
20:06.11sinplomoyes
20:06.24roxvilleit's so elive can even see your other drives
20:06.40roxvillethe next version will have auto-mounting
20:07.05roxvilletok, it is
20:07.41Tannerno. same error.
20:07.49Tannerumm... let me think.
20:08.05roxvillewhat's your error?
20:08.15Tannermount: you must specify the filesystem type
20:08.35roxvillewhat are you trying to mount?
20:08.46innovatihow do I change the time in the clock?
20:08.57Tannerif I remember correctly we established some kind "symbolic link" from hdc to cdrom... I only vaguely remember this
20:09.11Thanatermesisinnovati "datetimeconf"
20:09.12TannerDoesn't lars hate that clock?
20:09.21roxvilleyou open the glass lid and move the hands with your fingers
20:09.26Tannerlol
20:09.53roxvilleTanner mount: you must specify the filesystem type
20:09.53roxvilleroxville what are you trying to mount?
20:10.35Tannercdrom
20:10.51TannerI know it worked before
20:11.07roxvillemount /dev/hdc... OR... mount /cdrom
20:11.34Tannerbut this: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom works
20:11.57Tannerit's just this: mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom that gives me the error
20:12.35Tannerwe solved this problem before using this command ls -l [device]
20:12.40Tanneri think
20:13.03Tannerls: /dev/cdrom: No such file or directory
20:13.14roxvilleoh
20:13.16innovatinow, about dvds
20:13.24Tannerwtf. I think this is why we established a link between hdc and cdrom
20:14.02TannerTanner thinks his music cds are more important than lars's porn dvds
20:14.03roxvillehttp://elivecd.org/gb/Help/Bugs/  <== at the bottom
20:14.56roxvilleinnovati, is your real name lars? that's a nordic name.. have any nordic connections?
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20:15.17Tannerln -s /dev/hdc /dev/cdrom
20:15.26innovatiI'm innovati, using Lars' computer, and his grandfather is from norway
20:15.35Tannerthat's it I think
20:15.37roxvilleTanner,  ls means LIST
20:15.46innovatiTanner, it doesn't auto-mount though
20:15.54roxvillenorway... there ya go!
20:16.04innovatiroxville: what does rm -rf do then?
20:16.15Tanneryeah... i know
20:16.34innovatiLars' grandmother is from sweden
20:16.41innovatiand isn't Apocalyptica too?
20:16.56innovatilink is ln, yes, ans -s is for symbolic
20:16.57roxvillerm means remove
20:17.07innovati-rf is recursive, force
20:17.21sinplomoapt, lmao
20:17.22aptfrom memory, lmao is laughing my ass off, or see lol
20:17.23Tannerthat's it
20:17.32Tanneryou've done it again roxxie
20:17.36Tannerlol
20:17.38innovatiso we should all try doing this, right? cd / && rm -rf ??
20:18.02innovatiroxville: can you help me get automount and such going? we wanna watch Father Ted DVD's
20:18.12roxvilleor: FU /CD
20:18.22Tannerheh
20:18.34TannerI wanna watch Father Ted!
20:19.04Tannercan lars bring them to school one day so that i can watch them in the music room?
20:19.05roxvilleinnovati, have you made these links and changed the fastab?
20:19.22innovatihat links, and what do I change in fstab - that's what I need to know
20:19.32innovatiln -s /dev/hdc - /cdrom yes
20:21.15roxvilleroxville /dev/hdd /dvd  udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0  0
20:22.21roxville/dev/hdc /cdrom    udf,iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0  0
20:23.15roxvilleinnovati, open a terminal and type: oxine
20:23.38roxvilleif nothing happens: apt-get install oxine
20:23.43innovatithat is sooo creepy
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20:23.55roxvillethen try again
20:23.59innovatiI **just** said "I don't even know what oxine is" to lars when you said that
20:24.10Tannerlol... update made my clock go enormous
20:24.19roxvilleLOL
20:24.52roxvilleoxine is a VERY nice mediaplayer for dvd's and vcd's and other...divx and such
20:25.19innovatioooooo
20:25.24innovatibut I still need it to automount
20:25.57roxvillepls listen!
20:26.03roxville:)
20:26.23innovatiit works
20:26.34innovatinice, but it;s a little jerky, does it need graphic acceleration?
20:26.36roxvilleopen oxine, put in tyhe fucking DVD and press play DVD in the oxine menu!
20:26.48innovatidone and it works, thank you
20:26.56roxville:)
20:27.02roxvilleis it jerky?
20:27.14innovatiyes
20:27.16roxvilleDMA not activated
20:27.34roxvilleis your DNA working?
20:27.41innovatiwhat's that?
20:28.00roxvillejoking even
20:28.33roxvillebut you need to activate DMA, hold on, lemme find how
20:28.39innovatiwhy is it jerky? does it need graphic acceleration?
20:32.25roxvillehdparm -d1 -u1 -c1 -m16 /dev/hdd
20:32.35roxvilleIOF hdd is your DVD player
20:32.39roxvilleIF
20:37.54roxvilleinnovati, is it better now?
20:38.30roxvilleyou might have gotten some errors, but as long as
20:38.34roxville<PROTECTED>
20:38.45innovatiyesm works flawlessly
20:38.47roxvilleyou should be ok
20:38.52innovatithank you
20:38.55roxvilleok, good !
20:39.19roxvillenow, i have to go change my daughter diaper! lol
20:39.25innovatihheheeh
20:39.54innovatiwhat else should I install while you are gone?
20:42.58roxvilletoo late, i'm back
20:46.05roxvilleinnovati, do you have a film of some kind on that computer?
20:46.18roxvillea divx or mov or something?
20:46.28innovatimov yes
20:46.32innovatimplayer works well
20:46.44innovatiwmv as well
20:47.08roxvilleok, hold on...i have to remember something...lol
20:48.08roxvilleemotion_test /blah/blah/blah
20:48.28roxvillethe blah's are the link to your file
20:48.48roxvilleopen terminal and evidence
20:49.11innovatiemotion not found
20:49.25roxvilletype in emotion_test, highlight the file in evidence and middle-click in terminal to paste it
20:49.38roxvilleoh...hmmm
20:51.08roxvilleapt-get install emotion
20:52.37innovatican;'t find package
20:53.30innovatiso....?
20:55.25innovatiI can't seem to get Eterm to go either on the ibar or the menu
21:00.06roxvillecan't find package...you are root?
21:00.56roxvillesoory, had to chase down my daughter... she ran outside
21:01.37roxvillehmmm
21:01.55roxvilleinnovati, emotion should be there, in your elive already
21:02.15roxvilleok...
21:02.35roxvilleinnovati, you have to run emotion_test as user, not root
21:02.48roxvilleand type exactly as i do
21:02.57roxville;dlfjoijoidf;lkjdfojfoaidklxkj'pfgpdf[aijdif[pair[ijadofijadifaj
21:03.04roxvilleor...
21:03.05innovatithat?
21:03.22roxvilleemotion_test /file/mov
21:03.56roxvillethe last is just an example of what your link would look like
21:04.26roxvillethere's no spcae between emotion and _ and test
21:04.35roxvilleemotion_test, as one line
21:06.07innovatithat works
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21:07.45roxvilleit's pretty neat, you can set the transparency with the little knob on the inside of the frame
21:08.08roxvilleyou can also open 2 or more movies at the same time
21:08.24innovatiyep, we opened that same video twice, set it to transprent and ersized them while it was decoding
21:08.45innovatiwhat else can it do
21:09.26roxvilleit can toast your breakfast waffles while you're in the shower
21:09.35innovatiwhat other demos canit o
21:09.38innovatican it do
21:09.47roxvillethat's about it, really...
21:10.07innovatioh
21:10.10innovatiwhat other goodies are there?
21:11.21roxvilleit's just to show the power of the EFL libraries
21:11.40innovatiwhat other dems, found the evas one befoer
21:12.28roxvillei don't remember the names of all of them, but if you log in to e16, there's a few of them in the menu
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21:12.33innovatiyes
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21:16.14innovatifeck
21:16.39innovatiI wanna add the terminal to te menu, wheer can i manually edit the menu file, or ibar file?
21:16.44innovati~/.e/ ??
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21:17.51r3texwhat does the eutils package contain?
21:19.36r3texis eclair any good yet?
21:20.46innovatiterminal.eap isn't showing up
21:29.46roxvillewhy is terminal not in ibar already?
21:30.09roxvilleit's usually the "leftest" icon
21:30.50roxvillebbl
21:38.58r3texanyone know how entangle works?
21:39.08r3texor how i add stuff to my ibar
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21:52.37Elive_user3kitanis
21:52.46Elive_user3Helo everyone
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22:01.58Larshello, i am having some trouble with E17, i can't seem to get any audio working anymore
22:02.44ThanatermesisLars alsaconf
22:04.49Larsdamn, i can't even seem to find the terminal
22:05.04Larswhat is the command line for it?
22:05.17Thanatermesiscontrol-alt-insert
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22:05.55Elive_user2<PROTECTED>
22:06.19ThanatermesisElive_user2 tendras que cambiar de theme entonces
22:06.20Elive_user2algun hispano??
22:06.31Elive_user2ya le cambie
22:06.32Elive_user2baje como 4
22:06.34Larsi do not speak your language
22:06.46ThanatermesisLars this is a multi-lingual channel ;)
22:06.51Larsoh, sorry
22:06.57Larsi am quite new
22:07.00ThanatermesisElive_user2  4 ?
22:07.34Larsand alsaconf is not working either
22:07.46Elive_user2ya cambie de theme muchas veses y me pasa lo mismo , no ay una forma de configurar especificamente el tamaño de letra
22:07.50ThanatermesisLars with root ? type "su"
22:08.17ThanatermesisElive_user2 ningun theme te sirve ?
22:08.27Larsthere we go
22:08.37Elive_user2nop
22:08.46Elive_user2osea si funcionan
22:08.53Thanatermesismmmmh, puedes hacer una captura Elive_user2 ?
22:08.54Elive_user2pero las letras se ven igual de grandes
22:08.58Elive_user2ok
22:09.01Elive_user2pera
22:12.06Thanatermesislanza el comando "capturar shot", lo tendras en /tmp/shots
22:12.29Elive_user2http://201.153.43.169/
22:12.44Elive_user2ahi sta el screenchot
22:13.27Thanatermesisque theme es ese ? el milky ?
22:13.44Elive_user2sip
22:13.52Thanatermesiscuales son las fuentes que no ves ? la de los titulos de las ventanas o la del interior de los programas ?
22:13.58Elive_user2el problema es que estoy muy siego y no las llego
22:14.08Elive_user2quiero nadamas hacerlas grandes
22:14.54Thanatermesiscuales son las fuentes que no ves ? la de los titulos de las ventanas o la del interior de los programas ?
22:15.21Elive_user2ningunas
22:15.24Thanatermesisjeje
22:15.30Elive_user2osea no es que no aparescan es que no las alcanso a ver
22:15.32Thanatermesispara los titulos de los programas lo veo MUY dificil
22:15.38Elive_user2mmm
22:15.47Thanatermesispara los programas, lanza "gkt-theme-switch2"
22:15.53Elive_user2ok
22:16.08Thanatermesisusa el theme de "industrial", y en la fuente le pones "Sans 10"
22:16.12Thanatermesiso Sans 12
22:16.22Thanatermesiscon eso creo que tendrás bastante
22:16.25Elive_user2andale , eso es lo que quiero
22:16.43Elive_user2pero como que en la fuente le ponga eso , es lo que no se , es mi primer di que uso E17
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22:16.55Elive_user2osea como le pongo Sans 12 por ejemplo
22:17.14Elive_user2como configuro el tamaño de las fuentes en el tema industrial
22:17.20Thanatermesiscon eso
22:17.29Thanatermesiscon "gtk-theme-switch2"
22:17.34Elive_user2ok ,deja checo , muchas gracias
22:17.55Thanatermesislanzalo desde una consola, te aparecerá un programa
22:17.56Elive_user2se te agradece un chorro , pese que ni de pedo abia hispanos aqui
22:18.05Thanatermesisde todas formas... para la siguiente release habrá "elpanel"
22:18.17Elive_user2chido
22:18.29Thanatermesisservirá para configurar todo lo posible el sistema en si y el entorno ;)
22:18.37Elive_user2deberas me gusto mucho mas que gnome y eso que tenia usandolo como 4 años
22:18.53Thanatermesisjeje, vaya, me alegro oir eso :)
22:19.05Elive_user2ok , deja intento , nos vemos
22:19.12Thanatermesisla siguiente release saldrá pronto, estara mucho mejor ;)
22:29.24Elive_user2Thanatermesis checa otro screenshot porfa , no encontre donde cambiarle a sans 10 o 12 http://201.153.43.169/screen3.jpg
22:30.15Thanatermesisok, ves el disco duro con una flecha a la derecha ?
22:30.21Thanatermesistienes que picarle alli
22:30.40Thanatermesisse que no es evidente pero... no hay otra cosa :/
22:34.43Elive_user2ok , ya jalo , chido
22:34.57Elive_user2grax
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23:45.31sinplomohostia ... un TuxMeister !
23:50.02TuxMeisterque pasa sinplomo
23:50.03TuxMeisterque tal?
23:57.38sinplomoTuxMeister, nah
23:57.41sinplomoaqui currando xD
23:57.43sinplomotu ?
23:57.47sinplomoTuxMeister, http://196.206.93.23/prueba.jpg
23:58.08TuxMeisterpos recompilandole e17 a swordxl, que ta aki sobando como la bella durmiente
23:58.28sinplomoxDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
23:58.51sinplomono te aproveches de el ehh
23:58.52sinplomoxDD
23:58.57TuxMeisterdespues de dos petas (que yo se que se ha fumado, alomejor son mas) cualquiera duerme asi xD
23:59.08TuxMeisterno es mi tipo ;)
23:59.26sinplomoxD
23:59.35sinplomoTuxMeister, que te parecfe eso ?
23:59.39sinplomo*parece

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