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08:39.07shrifrom where can i download mkfs utility to use in an arm target
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21:23.43wiLiHi, I want to get my own firmware on my NAS. I found so called GPL packages that produced a new firmware, but what do I have to expect after uploading the new firmware? Is there any way to try out the new firmware using an emulator or the like?
21:28.12landleyDepends what it does.
21:28.33landleyYou might try qemu, but it won't emulate the exact same hardware your NAS has (or if it can, you'll spend a while setting it up).
21:28.51landleyIn general, if you have the _old_ firmware to load back on it, then just try the new firmware and revert to the old one if you don't like it.
21:29.10landley(If a firmware upgrade from the manufacturer turns it into a brick, return it as defective.)
21:34.50wiLiWell, of course I have the _old_ firmware, but will I be able to reinstall it after uploading the new firmware? I assume the http service currently allowing me to upload firmware will be gone after I installed the new firmware(?)
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21:37.54landleyIs this a firmware upgrade, or a totally different firmware from some other vendor?
21:38.11landleyIf it's just an upgrade, the new firmware should still have a similar way to install new firmware.
21:38.16landleyIf it doesn't, they removed a feature...
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21:44.56wiLiTo be honest: I have no idea, where this so called GPL packages do originate from. I downloaded them from ftp://opensource.zyxel.com, but I don't know, if they were provided by Zyxel itself or anybody else. The readme did not conatin anything except the instructions how to build the firmware
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21:49.52landleyAh, I have an open tab on my desktop to confirm license compliance for zyxel with busybox.
21:50.04landley(Provisionally what they supplied looks good, we just haven't confirmed it's complete yet.)
21:50.10landleyIt's on my todo list, if somebody else doesn't beat me to it.
21:54.37wiLiHmm, did I understand that correctly: the software was provided by Zyxel itself?
22:06.42landleyOr their upstream vendor.
22:06.52landleyHonestly dunno if they contracted out the development work or not.
22:07.10landleyI might know after examining the firmware, which remains on my todo list... :)
22:15.12wiLiOkay, I understand. After you examined the firmware, where will the results of your examination be published? Or in other words: where do I have to keep an eye on to get informed about things like this?
22:26.20landleyWell, we'll be taking down the hall of shame on busybox.net (because we've brought some of those companies into compliance and they'd like us to stop saying they aren't).
22:26.27landleyBy "we" I mean "the SFLC did it and then told me".
22:26.37landleySo there should be a link on busybox.net eventually.
22:26.40landleyIt's on my todo list. :)
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22:35.13wiLiWell, thanks a lot for these informations. At least things are starting to get clearer now.
22:36.48landleyYou're welcome.
22:37.10landleyI don't code on busybox anymore (thanks to Bruce), but I'm still involved with licensing stuff for it.
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23:22.43Dr{Who}if i wanted all projects in buildroot to use the config option ac_cv_func_malloc_0_nonnull=y what would be the best method to date. I see people discussing a new param or maybe using TARGET_CONFIGURE_OPTS but i see no direct reference as to how is best. I cant see anyplace where TARGET_CONFIGURE_OPTS is defined so it must be up to me to define it in my environment unless i missed something.
23:23.45nine_how compile a c++ project for a coldfire board, m5282evb ? using m68k-elf-g++ -m5200  -elf2flt -o hello helloworld.cpp returns an error
23:24.27Dr{Who}whats the error
23:29.12nine_ERROR: text=0x8aa0 overlaps data=0x0 ?
23:29.42nine_only error and fatal error :(
23:31.37Dr{Who}the problem is in elf2flt conversion
23:31.45Dr{Who}build with out make sure it builds
23:32.02Dr{Who}then you need to figure out whats up with the realoction utility
23:34.24nine_I am newbie
23:35.54nine_can you carify the point ?
23:36.24Dr{Who}the problem is in converting the elf to BFD format
23:36.41Dr{Who}the elf2flt utility is generating the error.
23:38.03nine_so what you recomend to do ? an don't understand the process of elf2flt
23:41.04nine_can you point some direction ? tutorial, or documentation ?
23:41.10Dr{Who}im still reading
23:41.17nine_sorry
23:54.41Dr{Who}can you add -Wl to your build line
23:58.11Dr{Who}try: m68k-elf-g++ -Wl, -elf2flt -m5200 -o hello helloworld.cpp -lstdc++ -lc -lgcc
23:58.27nine_I can try but cant say the results to you now
23:58.45nine_don't have the tools right now with me
23:59.02nine_but I will try and tomorrow give you the results
23:59.08nine_ok ?
23:59.10Dr{Who}k ill be around must msg me
23:59.39nine_by irc or prefere email ?
23:59.53Dr{Who}here is fine just pm me

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