00:20.07 | kergoth | jacques: whats the status of zynot nowadays? i'm outta the loop |
00:22.22 | jacques | kergoth: me too latetly :-\ |
00:22.43 | jacques | they are working feverishly on infrastructure still |
00:23.32 | kergoth | i noticed. ont he portage front, they still seem bound to a tool that isnt independent of the build distribution |
00:23.35 | kergoth | which is unfortunate. |
00:23.51 | kergoth | its possible to do a system which is the primary packaging system, yet doesnt require hooks into the build distro to have it function. |
00:24.51 | jacques | hmmm yes that's a good point - I haven't been keeping up with the portage replacement |
00:25.58 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: After dealing with OZ all day, I think I'm just going to move the pixil packages to OE and go from there |
00:26.08 | CosmicPenguin | The world will have to wait a few more week for images |
00:26.14 | kergoth | k |
00:26.18 | kergoth | will probably be easier |
00:26.35 | CosmicPenguin | I've got it running for the Tux, so that should be a good first start |
00:26.44 | CosmicPenguin | Tomorrow, I'll put the bootmenu on the tux too |
00:27.28 | jacques | kergoth: any snapshots of recent OE yet? :-) |
00:28.20 | kergoth | jacques: bah, email kergoth@handhelds.org so i dont forget |
00:28.51 | jacques | kergoth: will do :-) |
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00:45.43 | chouimat | http://techcentralstation.com/081803C.html |
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01:59.45 | Leno | CosmicPenguin: So, what about an image for my tux? ;) |
02:06.46 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: have a patch here that makes your bootmenu makefile easier to work with from a buildroot/OE perspective |
02:06.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: whats your email addy? |
02:25.03 | Leno | Is it just me, or does the tuxscreen wiki seem to be weird? |
02:25.40 | file[wifi] | it's always been weird |
02:27.13 | Leno | Ahh... the BuildRoot page doesn't seem to come up anymore. |
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03:00.32 | file[wifi] | hi Tim |
03:05.44 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: jordan@cosmicpenguin.net |
03:05.58 | CosmicPenguin | Patches and tux images will be out tommorrow, I promise |
03:06.47 | kergoth | k |
03:08.00 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: got mail |
03:27.31 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth`bbl: thanks |
03:29.18 | Leno | CosmicPenguin: Ahh, -k- I'll try it on X11 for tonight then... |
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05:32.32 | TimRiker | ~dict internecine |
05:37.55 | TimRiker | ~seen ds |
05:37.55 | | ds <~ds@adsl-67-113-234-227.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #uclibc, 220d 1h 18m ago, saying: 'yes'. |
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08:01.52 | Bruj0 | hello |
09:02.16 | Russ | yoyo |
09:20.50 | Bruj0 | did anybody have probs with the webpals IR keyb? |
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10:12.18 | fontenot | Bruj0: what sort of problems? |
10:12.35 | fontenot | Bruj0: don't use the batteries that come with it - they are old |
10:12.54 | fontenot | the only problem I know of is the keyboard does not work well at all with weak batteries |
10:13.01 | Bruj0 | fontenot: the IR keyb wont work |
10:13.10 | Bruj0 | it gives a "Keyboard error 21" |
10:13.24 | Bruj0 | bought new batteries |
10:13.30 | fontenot | oh I haven't seen that |
10:13.48 | Bruj0 | also im not sure if the correct drive is being compiled in |
10:14.00 | Bruj0 | i added a printk() there, but it didnt showup |
10:14.40 | fontenot | hmm |
10:15.02 | Bruj0 | i edited acorn/char/webpal_irkbd.c |
10:16.26 | fontenot | I don't know which driver is used |
10:18.05 | Bruj0 | this keyboard is white, so im guessing its different |
10:18.30 | fontenot | you cant tell which driver is used from the kernel config file in the tuxscreen buildroot ? |
10:18.51 | Bruj0 | no, its hardcoded to use acorn-char.o |
10:19.02 | Bruj0 | <PROTECTED> |
10:19.05 | Bruj0 | there |
10:19.24 | Bruj0 | arm-linux-ld -r -o acorn-char.o webpal_irkbd.o defkeymap-webpal.o |
10:19.28 | Bruj0 | and there it builds it |
10:19.49 | fontenot | oh crap |
10:19.52 | Bruj0 | gonna try a new kernel |
10:20.06 | fontenot | I misread your first question |
10:20.31 | fontenot | sorry - I thought you were talking about a tuxscreen |
10:21.44 | Bruj0 | nah webpal ;) |
10:21.47 | Bruj0 | same error |
10:22.41 | fontenot | well there are definitely ppl here who have hacked on webpals, but they are all asleep |
10:22.54 | Bruj0 | ill stay then, thanx |
10:24.56 | fontenot | np :-) |
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13:40.48 | chouimat | morning |
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14:02.02 | CosmicPenguin | Lock up your daughters - the plague is here |
14:02.19 | prpplague | muhahaha |
14:02.52 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
14:03.01 | jnork | I'm saving for a shotgun. |
14:03.24 | chouimat | prpplague someone build 4/8mb flash rom for the webpal |
14:04.43 | prpplague | nice |
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14:05.25 | chouimat | prpplague I will order a 8mb one |
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14:10.22 | kergoth | hey |
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14:51.00 | CosmicPenguin | uclibc has no support for versionsort? |
14:51.05 | CosmicPenguin | The horror. The horror. |
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15:26.05 | sjhill | CosmicPenguin: write is yourself you big baby |
15:26.09 | sjhill | s/is/it/ |
15:26.10 | sjhill | :) |
15:26.23 | kergoth | hrmmmm |
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15:47.07 | sorphin | sjhill: yo |
15:47.43 | sorphin | sjhill: you've had some ricmm or somesuch looking for you, your Nino mips boy |
15:52.53 | prpplague | ibot: ricmm |
15:52.53 | | prpplague: i haven't a clue |
15:52.57 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I know its a PITA to convert those packages |
15:53.07 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: but you forgot to change the title of the jpeg package... :) |
15:53.17 | chouimat | hi sorphin CosmicPenguin sjhill |
15:53.17 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: linuxdevices has another headline about pixil |
15:53.42 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: no, i didnt |
15:53.55 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: allt he packages in OE are named per their sources, the _output_ packaging isnt done |
15:54.03 | sorphin | prpplague: was some sjhill mips code for the Nino he was on about |
15:54.05 | kergoth | so its expected that its jpeg-6b, not libjpeg62 |
15:54.17 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: so the DESCRIPTION has no meaning then? |
15:54.28 | kergoth | oh, thought you meant the .oe filename |
15:54.32 | kergoth | description is used |
15:54.32 | sorphin | no thanks to apt-get |
15:54.39 | CosmicPenguin | sorry - I was being hasty |
15:54.43 | sorphin | which still has 3.6 |
15:54.46 | prpplague | sorphin: yea, i was just looking for ricmm real name |
15:54.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: the key at this point is getting the shit over and building |
15:54.54 | sorphin | prpplague: ah |
15:55.06 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: deviceisms, packaging, and nice vars for packaging, are low priority |
15:55.11 | sorphin | prpplague: he'll reappear i'm sure |
15:55.16 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: DESCRIPTION is only used in the ipk and rpm package classes |
15:55.25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague:what changed? |
15:55.44 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: no worries, I just happened to be in the jpeg file |
15:55.50 | kergoth | k |
15:55.57 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I agree, functionality is key |
15:56.01 | kergoth | how do you like the .oe format atm? |
15:56.05 | kergoth | simple enough? |
15:56.08 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what changed with what? |
15:56.25 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I just started - I'll let you know |
15:56.29 | kergoth | k |
15:56.38 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I have to convert Microwindows, Pixil and w3c-www |
15:56.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: the article was just an update - I wonder what was updated? |
15:56.52 | prpplague | kergoth: imho OE has gotten too big |
15:57.00 | kergoth | prpplague: buildroot? |
15:57.14 | kergoth | buildroot is dead. i'll be dancing on its grave in a few weeks |
15:57.25 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: feel like writing a conversion/transition guide? ;) |
15:57.51 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: maybe |
15:57.52 | sorphin | debian's latest pool for openssh is 3.6.1p2 |
15:57.59 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: i"m not so good on the ol' documentation front |
15:58.02 | sorphin | that fix the hole or not? (anyone know?) |
15:58.19 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: me either. hence the asking everyone who converts a package if they want to :) |
15:59.50 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: whats the difference between RDEPENDS and DEPENDS? |
16:00.04 | kergoth | runtime vs build |
16:00.11 | kergoth | RDEPENDS Is used in the rpm and ipk packaging |
16:00.27 | CosmicPenguin | So for shared libraries and the like then? |
16:00.41 | kergoth | i.e. |
16:00.48 | kergoth | DEPENDS = glibc |
16:00.50 | kergoth | RDEPENDS = libc6 |
16:01.06 | CosmicPenguin | also, qte-2.3.6.oe has the following line: DEPENDS=virtual/libc zlib libpng jpeg |
16:01.07 | kergoth | given debian-like output package naming |
16:01.12 | kergoth | yep |
16:01.17 | CosmicPenguin | while qte-2.4.7.oe has the line: DEPENDS=virtual/libc zlib base/libpng base/jpeg |
16:01.22 | CosmicPenguin | Which one is correct? |
16:01.24 | kergoth | remnants of portage |
16:01.26 | kergoth | either works |
16:01.28 | sorphin | heh |
16:01.31 | kergoth | base is the 'CATEGORY' |
16:01.35 | CosmicPenguin | ashh |
16:01.45 | CosmicPenguin | Which one should be used going foward? |
16:01.45 | kergoth | each package PROVIDES: |
16:01.49 | kergoth | CATEGORY/PN-PV-PR |
16:01.52 | kergoth | PN-PV-PR |
16:01.54 | kergoth | PN-PV |
16:01.54 | kergoth | PN |
16:02.06 | kergoth | where PN is package name, PV is package version, and PR Is package revision |
16:02.14 | kergoth | you can depend on any of them, depending on how specific you feel you need to be |
16:02.17 | CosmicPenguin | god it |
16:02.19 | CosmicPenguin | got it |
16:02.24 | kergoth | going forward, i'd avoid the use of category, since its just a portage remnant |
16:02.44 | CosmicPenguin | ok |
16:03.03 | CosmicPenguin | the qte file also doesn't have a rdepends, but it does have a depends - does that mean rdepends isn't really nessesary? |
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16:03.30 | kergoth | no, it means that, as i said once already, output packaging hasnt really been done |
16:03.38 | kergoth | so output packaging's dpeendencies on the target are low prioirty |
16:03.39 | CosmicPenguin | I missed that part |
16:03.39 | kergoth | priority |
16:04.03 | kergoth | right now it builds an output package of the name that is PN, and doesnt build subpackages (high granularity) |
16:04.28 | kergoth | i want shit building first, then i'll populate output packaging variables like DESCRIPTION, SECTION, RDEPENDS and increase package granularity |
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16:05.57 | kergoth | if you want to build a package of osmething.. |
16:06.08 | kergoth | INHERIT=package_{ipk,rpm,tar} oebuild blah blah.oe |
16:06.23 | kergoth | or multiple. INHERIT="package_ipk package_tar" oebuild content/glibc-2.3.2.oe |
16:06.34 | kergoth | the config system will end up defining that for us, once it exists. |
16:10.43 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: which build variable is best suited to determine the target patform, ie (ipaq, tuxscreen. etc..) |
16:10.52 | kergoth | MACHINE |
16:11.13 | kergoth | if you want to get that specific |
16:11.18 | kergoth | general 'arm' is in ARCH |
16:13.53 | CosmicPenguin | so for example, if [ "$MACHINE" = "ipaq" ]; then cp src/Config/config.ipaq src/config; fi |
16:17.03 | mallum | kergoth: transition guide would rock imho |
16:17.17 | kergoth | mallum: indeed |
16:17.44 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: yeah. would be good to have an 'else' case, some may not have MACHINE defined to something you expect |
16:26.24 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: what if I did something stupid like define CONFIG-ipaq, CONFIG-zaurus, etc... |
16:26.42 | CosmicPenguin | and then do a cp src/Config/$CONFIG-${MACHINE} config |
16:27.50 | kergoth | thatd work |
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16:31.38 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: first impression - its tough moving from the makefile mindset back to the script mindset |
16:31.59 | kergoth | i dont know what you mean |
16:32.05 | kergoth | make calls shell. OE calls shell or python. |
16:32.25 | kergoth | variable definitions are almost identical with the exception of ${} instead of $() |
16:33.13 | kergoth | make has 'include', OE has 'include' and 'inherit' due to its inheritence capability |
16:33.55 | kergoth | or do you mean the way we define 'targets' aka 'functions'? |
16:34.01 | kergoth | blah () { } vs blah:? |
16:34.17 | kergoth | i dont like the excessive bracketing myself, i'd prefer moving to a make-like or python-like target definition format |
16:35.51 | CosmicPenguin | whats the patch=1 syntax for? |
16:36.05 | CosmicPenguin | on the SRC_URI? How do I handle a bzipped patch? |
16:38.20 | kergoth | patch=1 informs the world that its a patch |
16:38.26 | kergoth | it doesnt go by filename to determine that |
16:38.29 | kergoth | which increases flexibility |
16:38.37 | kergoth | it automatically bunzip2's if its a bzipped patch |
16:38.54 | kergoth | http://blahb.com/test.patch.bz2;patch=1 |
16:39.01 | kergoth | will obtain, extract, then patch it |
16:46.35 | CosmicPenguin | A local strip joint is hosting (and I'm totally not kidding about this) : Tits for Tots |
16:46.50 | CosmicPenguin | To raise money for Bikers Against Child Abuse |
16:47.16 | kergoth | haha |
16:47.17 | kergoth | oh my. |
16:47.31 | CosmicPenguin | What an unfortunate name |
16:50.52 | CosmicPenguin | And then there was one |
16:51.20 | mallum | I finally went to a strip joint for my stag night |
16:51.34 | CosmicPenguin | sigh |
16:51.45 | CosmicPenguin | one nick left, and he's asleep |
16:53.44 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: I do like being able to do advanced script stuff without having to toss in a bunch of semicolons and slashes |
16:54.35 | kergoth | yeah, i like that too. whats within the function definition is yours do with what you will |
16:55.18 | sjhill | mallum: it's not all that great, is it? |
16:56.59 | Lenolium | CosmicPenguin: What strip joint is that? |
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16:58.54 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: have you seen http://www.a-a-p.com/? what doo you think of their file format? |
17:01.05 | CosmicPenguin | Lenolium: trails |
17:01.23 | kergoth | er is it .org. bleh, whatever |
17:02.36 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: in the mean time, is oe_runamke completely interchangable with make as far as command line is concerned? |
17:02.40 | CosmicPenguin | Why use EXTRA_OMAKE at all? |
17:03.12 | kergoth | EXTRA_OEMAKE is pointless |
17:03.20 | kergoth | and causes problems due to quote expansion |
17:03.21 | kergoth | dont use it |
17:03.27 | kergoth | its a remnant from the first dev that worked on OE |
17:04.07 | CosmicPenguin | so just use run_oemake like it was make |
17:04.10 | mallum | sjhill: It was ok. quite a laugh |
17:04.11 | kergoth | yeah |
17:04.14 | kergoth | thats best |
17:12.10 | Russ | ~quote scox |
17:12.25 | Russ | goddamn |
17:15.00 | Russ | is the internet fucked up right now? |
17:15.59 | chouimat | Russ no I think they actually made some money |
17:16.16 | Russ | (unrulated topic) |
17:16.34 | Russ | I can't get to ucomics.com, foxnews is really slow, same with google |
17:16.45 | Russ | oh, google is back |
18:02.05 | kergoth`food | ARCH=arm |
18:02.07 | kergoth`food | OS=linux |
18:02.11 | kergoth`food | MACHINE=collie |
18:02.18 | kergoth`food | would be sufficient |
18:02.22 | kergoth`food | default is native |
18:02.27 | Russ | make oldconfig |
18:10.50 | CosmicPenguin | excellent |
18:12.45 | CosmicPenguin | Hmmmm...... |
18:13.06 | levi | CosmicPenguin: Have you cleared the pixil channel yet? |
18:14.01 | CosmicPenguin | levi: not yet, we've still got one lurker |
18:14.51 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: oebuild is the target binary, right? |
18:15.30 | kergoth | o? |
18:15.33 | kergoth | s/o// |
18:16.24 | kergoth | we deviate here |
18:16.26 | CosmicPenguin | the command would be bin/oebuild <command>, right? |
18:16.29 | kergoth | oebuild builds a single package |
18:16.30 | kergoth | read |
18:16.32 | kergoth | oebuild --help |
18:16.36 | kergoth | oemake --help |
18:17.24 | CosmicPenguin | bin/oebuild --help: SyntaxError: invalid syntax |
18:18.01 | kergoth | are you on a redhat box? |
18:18.05 | CosmicPenguin | yep |
18:18.06 | CosmicPenguin | 7.3 |
18:18.08 | kergoth | chagne #!/usr/bin/python to #!/usr/bin/python2 |
18:18.14 | kergoth | we need 2.2+ iirc |
18:18.21 | kergoth | then itll be happier |
18:18.24 | CosmicPenguin | python-1.5.2-43.73 |
18:18.30 | kergoth | rpm -qf /usr/bin/python2 |
18:18.32 | CosmicPenguin | I see |
18:18.48 | kergoth | hey spiffy. gcc 3.3.1 final pass one built with OE |
18:21.57 | mallum | kergoth: have you ever had a problem with libtool using builds in oz which decide to stick a local library ( like /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so ) in the linking ? |
18:22.09 | kergoth | yep, pretty common |
18:22.10 | CosmicPenguin | NOTE: package base/oe-1.0_20030917-r0: dependency patcher unsatisfied |
18:22.19 | kergoth | the target libdir is ending up in your libtool lib paths |
18:22.34 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: oemake doesnt know how to find .oe files in the filesystem. specify patcher's .oe on the commandline as well |
18:22.43 | mallum | kergoth: ah right. any easy way to work round that ? |
18:22.45 | CosmicPenguin | ok |
18:22.51 | kergoth | right now its knowledge of what oe's exist and its knowledge of what oe's you want to bulid are one and the same |
18:22.55 | kergoth | which is rather annoying |
18:23.00 | kergoth | but i'll fix it shortly |
18:23.34 | Russ | http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2003-09/17/content_1086665.htm <- the UN is fun! |
18:24.02 | Russ | lets pass a resolution....to say thats BAD! ya, thats it, that'll make the problem go away |
18:25.34 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: started - lets see how far it gets (glibc, libpng, libjpeg, mw) |
18:25.38 | kergoth | cool |
18:26.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: note that the steps are eerily quiet. tail -f the appropriate log in tmp/base/PN-PV-PR/temp/ to see whats what |
18:27.01 | Russ | chouimat: what I don't understand, is how ms was a major portion of that 15M for scosource |
18:27.16 | Russ | I mean, I understand, I just don't see how they can pass it off as legitamate |
18:27.54 | Russ | does MS really have 10,000, or 20,000 some linux installs? |
18:35.25 | CosmicPenguin | apparently it thinks that 2.95.3 is too old |
18:35.43 | kergoth | you cant build glibc 2.3.x with gcc2.x |
18:35.46 | kergoth | :) |
18:36.17 | CosmicPenguin | apparently not |
18:36.28 | CosmicPenguin | does the .oe to build the toolchain work? |
18:36.40 | kergoth | theres a fairly solid gcc3.3.1/glibc2.3.2 chain on openzaurus.org/official/toolchain |
18:36.43 | kergoth | i'm working on that now |
18:36.46 | CosmicPenguin | works for me |
18:36.59 | kergoth | gcc pass 1 and cross-binutils works, need to enhance the glibc oe to install its stuff into the toolchain dir |
18:37.05 | kergoth | then the final pass will work, and we're done |
18:37.28 | CosmicPenguin | I needed a newer xcompiler anyway |
18:39.39 | kergoth | bleh, such a mess |
18:39.46 | kergoth | we build glibc and put it in staging |
18:39.55 | kergoth | but the builds end up using bits from the toolchains' glibc anyway |
18:40.06 | kergoth | so its like, whats the point. |
18:44.10 | CosmicPenguin | checking size of long double... configure: error: cannot compute sizeof (long double), 77 |
18:44.10 | CosmicPenguin | + die 'oe_runconf failed' |
18:51.21 | kergoth | oh, i added that recently |
18:51.28 | kergoth | bk pull your oe directory if you havent recently |
18:52.14 | CosmicPenguin | I pulled it this morning, it reports nothing to pull |
18:52.16 | kergoth | hehe. the autotools oeclass is really pretty damn cool. if you app uses libtool, be sure to add libtool to DEPENDS, as we watch our local libtool to prevent the .la libdir from leaking into the path |
18:52.25 | kergoth | is your OEDIR not set right? |
18:52.35 | CosmicPenguin | Quite possibly - let me check |
18:52.36 | kergoth | cat $OEDIR/site/arm-linux|grep 'double' |
18:53.45 | CosmicPenguin | yeah, i dicked it |
18:53.52 | kergoth | note, CONFIG_SITE is set to ${OEDIR}/site/${ARCH}-${OS}, so if your arch isnt arm, and your os isnt linux, it wont pick up our test results |
18:53.55 | CosmicPenguin | stupid keyboard, be less error prone |
18:53.56 | kergoth | k |
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18:59.53 | CosmicPenguin | Alright people |
19:00.10 | file[wifi] | hello people |
19:00.25 | CosmicPenguin | First Pixil patch is up: http://cosmicpenguin.net/pub/pixil/1.2.3/pixil-1.2.3-jhc1.patch.bz2 |
19:00.54 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: ah rock |
19:01.02 | CosmicPenguin | That should fix most of the 3.2 issues and also add the ability for the X11 folks to include an exteral FLTK instead of relying on the hacified internal version |
19:01.28 | CosmicPenguin | Also, for the tuxscreen folks: http://cosmicpenguin.net/pub/pixil/misc/buildroot-tux.diff.bz2 |
19:01.58 | CosmicPenguin | Including changes for microwindows, pixil and introducing bootmenu |
19:03.23 | CosmicPenguin | I would have a jffs2 image too, but like an idiot, I erased it to do the diff of the buildroot |
19:03.26 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: you recommend better to use external fltk that included one ? |
19:03.29 | CosmicPenguin | yesh |
19:03.46 | CosmicPenguin | Unless you are building for Microwindows, I very much recommend an external FLTK |
19:03.57 | CosmicPenguin | I use 1.0.11 - I know there are some api changes in the 1.1.X series that we might have to fix |
19:04.02 | CosmicPenguin | So if you go that route, be forwarned |
19:05.39 | mallum | ok cool, thanks for the info ( and patch of course ) |
19:07.21 | CosmicPenguin | mallum: ping me with any issues |
19:08.34 | file[wifi] | pong |
19:12.40 | Bruj0 | hey ;) |
19:12.52 | Bruj0 | somebody had problem with the IR keyboard in the webpals? |
19:19.53 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: okey, whats flek btw ? |
19:21.33 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: and also PixelDT |
19:22.19 | Bruj0 | any webpals hackers around? |
19:23.51 | Russ | I hack that IR keyboard |
19:23.55 | Russ | but for the tuxscreen |
19:24.57 | Bruj0 | ah |
19:25.05 | Russ | same thing though |
19:25.16 | Bruj0 | any clues why it wouldnt even transmit? |
19:25.20 | Russ | if you haven't replaced the batteries yet, do so, they are about 6 years old |
19:25.28 | Bruj0 | first thing i did |
19:25.36 | Bruj0 | 2 AAA bats |
19:25.41 | Russ | how do you know it isn't transmitting? |
19:25.52 | Bruj0 | i added printk's in the code |
19:26.03 | Russ | oh, it isn't *receiving* |
19:26.13 | Bruj0 | yea |
19:26.18 | Bruj0 | its weird |
19:26.35 | Russ | did you do any hardware mods? |
19:26.48 | Russ | because that serial port is shared |
19:26.50 | Bruj0 | i just built a rs232c serial adapter |
19:26.56 | Russ | ok, there you go |
19:27.02 | Bruj0 | ah |
19:27.10 | Bruj0 | its solder right into the jp10 pins |
19:27.14 | Bruj0 | that it? |
19:27.36 | Russ | pretty sure, if you want to know, double check what people have online |
19:28.07 | Bruj0 | aha yes i thought it would be that, but i have 2 webpals |
19:28.17 | Bruj0 | i tried before but ill double check |
19:28.43 | Russ | do you have a tuxscreen? |
19:28.58 | Bruj0 | hm no |
19:29.38 | Bruj0 | ah shiny |
19:29.41 | Bruj0 | it has a phone |
19:29.51 | Russ | ya, and the same keyboard |
19:30.03 | Russ | I was just thinking you could cross test keyboards |
19:30.21 | Bruj0 | but thats weird coz on every webpal pictuer i saw |
19:30.28 | Bruj0 | the keyboard was black and bigger |
19:30.39 | Bruj0 | but thats the exact keyboard i have |
19:30.51 | Russ | *shrug* |
19:30.52 | Bruj0 | some keys are labeled different tho |
19:30.57 | Russ | they are |
19:31.13 | Bruj0 | so im thinking i dont have the "standard" keyboard |
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19:43.50 | Bruj0 | Russ: yea it was the rs232 |
20:31.58 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: k, enhanced oemake. now you just export OEFILES=/path/to/packages/content/*.oe .. then oemake glibc, oemake ncurses-5.3, or whatever |
20:32.03 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: far far cleaner syntax. |
20:32.22 | kergoth | takes a while to parse all the .oe files though. really need an sqlite 'cache' for the data |
20:35.40 | CosmicPenguin | sed: file ../scripts/output-format.sed line 21: Unknown command: ``Q'' |
20:35.43 | CosmicPenguin | Look familiar? |
20:36.01 | kergoth | yeah |
20:36.03 | kergoth | your sed version is old |
20:36.12 | kergoth | build a new binary rpm from the src.rpm for sed from rawhide |
20:36.17 | kergoth | works fine after that |
20:36.20 | CosmicPenguin | 3.02-11 |
20:36.24 | file[wifi] | mmm? |
20:39.48 | CosmicPenguin | If anyone downloaded the buildroot changes to Tuxscren for pixil - grab them again, I made a mistake in the pixil.mk file |
20:41.29 | chouimat | grrrr |
20:42.09 | kergoth | chouimat: ? |
20:42.50 | chouimat | kergoth the 80th phone call of the day |
20:42.54 | kergoth | ah |
20:43.11 | CosmicPenguin | Despite the issues, I think that I am going to end up being happy with the OE infrastructure |
20:43.17 | CosmicPenguin | It just needs be be hardened a bit |
20:43.27 | kergoth | well put. |
20:43.30 | kergoth | lots of little things |
20:43.35 | chouimat | kergoth I love using XP with this clients .... he changed the requirement about 40 times today ... |
20:44.01 | chouimat | XP as in extreme programming |
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20:50.02 | ricmm | :D |
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21:02.06 | prpplague | ahh, i love putting really nasty ugly stupid hacks into BB |
21:02.36 | kergoth | hehe |
21:02.40 | ricmm | hi prpplague |
21:02.42 | kergoth | ~fishslap prpplague |
21:02.43 | | ACTION slaps prpplague up side the head with a wet fish. |
21:03.03 | ricmm | hey kergoth |
21:06.38 | CosmicPenguin | Ok folks - #pixil is back up and running |
21:12.07 | prpplague | kergoth: thanks |
21:12.16 | prpplague | kergoth: i needed that |
21:12.24 | kergoth | np |
21:12.35 | prpplague | ricmm: howdy |
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21:26.17 | mallum | kergoth: any idea how to stop this /usr/lib/libfontconfig getting pulled into oz mb build ? |
21:26.39 | kergoth | depends |
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21:26.44 | kergoth | on how its coming in |
21:27.00 | kergoth | its either coming from a [something]_cflags variable |
21:27.09 | kergoth | or its coming from a .la thats floating around your build env |
21:27.15 | kergoth | the former you override via environment |
21:27.18 | kergoth | thte latter you patch libtool. |
21:27.44 | kergoth | anyone here happen to know if there's a C library around that contains a sane Digraph implementation? |
21:40.52 | mallum | kergoth: aha fixed the libtool crack thing though ;-) |
21:41.14 | mallum | kergoth: had to edit the fontconfig.la file |
21:42.05 | kergoth | mallum: figured that was it. the OE libtool build patches libtool to prevent that |
21:43.31 | mallum | kergoth: cool. This is the last stuff I want to do with oz btw, I just wanna get a nice mb built for 760 X image then I'll focus on oe |
21:44.01 | kergoth | sounds good |
21:44.29 | kergoth | i think i'll start on an oz buildroot -> oe transition guide, then work an intro doc |
21:44.51 | mallum | kergoth: ah but that would be really helpful |
21:45.06 | mallum | kergoth: and think of all the dumb ques it'll save you answering on irc |
21:45.13 | CosmicPenguin | most of them mine... :) |
21:46.02 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: I havn't started yet |
21:46.10 | mallum | CosmicPenguin: prolly repeat your ones except worse |
21:51.30 | kergoth | prpplague: you need to go home and get a drink |
21:53.43 | prpplague | kergoth: you buying? |
21:54.43 | kergoth | your house isnt stocked? |
21:55.41 | chouimat | prpplague: go get a drink |
21:56.31 | prpplague | hmm, how about adding donothing->busybox ? |
21:57.48 | chouimat | prpplague: gaydar->busybox? |
21:58.06 | prpplague | chouimat: lol |
22:03.22 | Russ | prpplague: btw, did you ever find any 32M boards? |
22:03.49 | prpplague | Russ: yep looking at it now, just haven't had time to do a quick test and make sure all is well |
22:04.10 | Russ | cool |
22:04.17 | Russ | I'm getting a 144M doc off ebay |
22:06.59 | prpplague | Russ: I'm getting a 118lbs wife off ebay :) |
22:07.59 | Russ | what, you can get a thai stalker for free |
22:09.15 | prpplague | Russ: lol |
22:09.40 | Russ | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2856247875&category=46778 <-is this her? |
22:11.31 | prpplague | Russ: naw, i like mine more sleeeeeezy |
22:12.59 | chouimat | 32M board? 144M doc? |
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22:29.43 | prpplague | later guys |
22:30.06 | CosmicPenguin | later |
22:30.07 | prpplague | #./busybox beer | more |
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22:50.11 | CosmicPenguin | http://cosmicpenguin.net/pub/pixil/images/tuxscreen-pixil-1.2.3-jhc1.jffs2 |
22:50.14 | CosmicPenguin | Pixil Tuxscreen image |
22:50.21 | CosmicPenguin | Fresh off the presses |
22:51.05 | chouimat|beer | CosmicPenguin: a flat tuxscreen? |
22:51.50 | CosmicPenguin | ~bitslap chouimat|beer |
22:52.03 | CosmicPenguin | ~slap chouimat|beer |
22:52.08 | CosmicPenguin | ~lart chouimat|beer |
22:52.14 | chouimat|beer | CosmicPenguin: ;) |
22:52.23 | CosmicPenguin | stupid ibot |
22:53.21 | levi | That would actually make my tuxscreen potentially useful. At least, it would be if it could sync with something. |
22:54.05 | CosmicPenguin | levi - it all depends on what you want to sync with |
23:01.00 | levi | Some sort of PDA, probably. |
23:05.43 | CosmicPenguin | levi - I mean software |
23:07.33 | levi | Well, tuxscreen pixil syncing with pda pixil. |
23:07.47 | CosmicPenguin | That we can do |
23:08.01 | levi | Spiffy. |
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23:59.22 | chouimat | re |