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| 01:36.18 | file[wifi] | hi sjhill |
| 01:36.37 | sjhill | lo' file[wifi] |
| 01:37.23 | file[wifi] | sjhill: usb-storage with 2.6, good/bad? |
| 01:42.31 | sjhill | file[wifi]: dunno....haven't played much with 2.6 |
| 01:43.05 | file[wifi] | k |
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| 02:50.58 | jacques | heh, a whole 34 seconds he waited |
| 02:51.07 | jacques | MTV generation |
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| 03:22.09 | jacques | heeey. on freshmeat I see uclibc 0.9.21 has been released, yet no mention of such on uclibc.org |
| 03:23.06 | jacques | oh. hmm. stupid mozilla dns caching |
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| 03:28.22 | jacques | hi TimRiker what's new? |
| 04:04.37 | TimRiker | andersee: you up? I'm moving primary dns over so I can move services from Marc's to here. |
| 04:09.30 | andersee | TimRiker: hey |
| 04:09.36 | andersee | TimRiker: I'm up |
| 04:11.28 | jacques | hi andersee I see 0.9.21 is out! |
| 04:11.57 | jacques | has buildroot been updated yet? how about to gcc 3.3.1 final ? |
| 04:12.19 | andersee | jacques: hi |
| 04:12.27 | andersee | jacques: yes, buildroot has been updated |
| 04:12.37 | jacques | whooo!!! I will play with it tonight |
| 04:13.12 | andersee | jacques: I even updated the tuxscreen buildroot, but havn't checked that in yet |
| 04:13.50 | jacques | I'll do another buildoot -> buildinitrd mod. seems I need to get init working in my initrd so I can have job control in my shell |
| 04:13.55 | kergoth | I think i'm in build hell. |
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| 04:15.36 | TimRiker | ouch... |
| 04:15.47 | TimRiker | andersee: hey. don't suppose you'd chmod +r /var/log/daemon.log for me on winder? |
| 04:16.36 | kergoth | I need to set a bunch of vars in gmake as though they came from the commandline, but without passing them via the commandline. |
| 04:17.11 | kergoth | env doesnt work cause the vars arent given enough priority, i need them to override toplevel vars |
| 04:17.21 | kergoth | make -e doesnt work because it passes it into submakes, which breaks behavior further |
| 04:17.36 | kergoth | make -e MAKEFLAGS="" works, but breaks if you _do_ need to pass something all the way down via the commandline |
| 04:18.47 | kergoth | I need to keep -e from being passed into submakes, yet still pass cmdline vars into submakes |
| 04:18.50 | kergoth | how the hell.. |
| 04:23.19 | TimRiker | an include won't do it? |
| 04:23.32 | kergoth | no, then they're given the same priority as those in the toplevel build makefile |
| 04:23.36 | kergoth | because they're also from a 'file' |
| 04:23.48 | kergoth | i need to override the vars in the toplevel makefile, the way a commandline one does |
| 04:24.50 | jacques | expect? |
| 04:24.59 | kergoth | ~lart jacques |
| 04:27.24 | andersee | sorry |
| 04:27.31 | andersee | my wife needed me for a sec |
| 04:30.01 | kergoth | priority CC=gcc "command line" or something |
| 04:30.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:30.38 | jacques | kergoth: are you going to HDC by any chance? |
| 04:30.59 | kergoth | I'd like to, not sure if I can afford it atm, I'm neck deep in debt |
| 04:31.09 | kergoth | will check into it anyway |
| 04:31.34 | jacques | ah I understand. I'm going for the first time :-) already have my plane tickets but no lodging |
| 04:31.44 | kergoth | ah cool :) |
| 04:32.09 | jacques | too bad TI won;t send you |
| 04:32.16 | jacques | or would they? |
| 04:32.24 | kergoth | nah, i'm contract |
| 04:32.44 | jacques | ah. yeah I had that issue when I was contract last |
| 04:33.10 | kergoth | had the same problem with OLS. next year i should be back on my feet, so will be able to go |
| 04:33.13 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:33.14 | jacques | I'm sure lots of ppl there would like to talk to you about OE |
| 04:33.52 | kergoth | yeah, bipolar was mentioning that there's actually interest in it, which surprised me given previous responses |
| 04:34.04 | kergoth | brb |
| 04:57.26 | kergoth | bleh |
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| 05:22.36 | ricmm | seen prpplague |
| 05:22.43 | ricmm | ibot seen prpplague |
| 05:22.43 | | prpplague <~billybob@12.148.134.14> was last seen on IRC in channel #elinux, 7h 41m 47s ago, saying: 'customer took a terminator off raid cabinet'. |
| 05:22.54 | ricmm | :) :P |
| 05:23.54 | ricmm | kergoth: where are you from? |
| 05:25.45 | kergoth | from minnesota, recently movfed to texas |
| 05:26.29 | ricmm | nice |
| 05:27.06 | ricmm | *yawn* |
| 05:27.15 | ricmm | bye kergoth |
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| 07:33.53 | fontenot | ugh 30kB/s from gcc.get-software.com simply will not do |
| 07:50.03 | andersee | fontenot: there are other mirrors... |
| 07:51.32 | fontenot | andersee: in the makefile ? |
| 07:52.02 | fontenot | luckily I already had gcc-3.3.1 downloaded |
| 07:52.08 | andersee | fontenot: http://gcc.gnu.org/mirrors.html |
| 07:52.40 | fontenot | ah heh |
| 08:08.12 | fontenot | andersee: have you tried building an arm toolchain recently ? |
| 08:08.21 | fontenot | with gcc 3.3.1 that is |
| 08:08.41 | fontenot | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 08:08.41 | fontenot | make[1]: *** [configure-target-libiberty] Error 1 |
| 08:10.50 | andersee | fontenot: with this: http://www.uclibc.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/toolchain/gcc-3.3.1/ |
| 08:10.54 | andersee | ? |
| 08:10.59 | andersee | Or something else? |
| 08:11.12 | fontenot | with your toolchain builder from cvs |
| 08:11.47 | fontenot | I don't get it - the gcc build process knows what the host and build archs are - why does it try this stupidity? |
| 08:12.13 | fontenot | Configuring in arm-linux/libiberty |
| 08:12.22 | fontenot | why does it even need libiberty? |
| 08:12.54 | fontenot | but even so, it knows it's building for an arm host on a i386 machine so why try running executables? |
| 08:13.02 | fontenot | god I hace configure sometimes |
| 08:14.01 | fontenot | BTW, building for i386 host works fine. |
| 08:17.25 | fontenot | andersee: aha - from the config.log: |
| 08:17.28 | fontenot | /home/packages/uclibc/toolchain/gcc-3.3.1/toolchain_arm/arm-linux/bin/ld: confte |
| 08:17.28 | fontenot | st: hidden symbol `__udivsi3' in /home/packages/uclibc/toolchain/gcc-3.3.1/build |
| 08:17.28 | fontenot | _arm/gcc-final/gcc/libgcc.a(_udivsi3.oS) is referenced by DSO |
| 08:17.28 | fontenot | collect2: ld returned 1 exit status |
| 08:17.48 | fontenot | I hope you understand that because I don't |
| 08:17.59 | andersee | I do understand it |
| 08:18.03 | andersee | But I'm not happy about it |
| 08:18.05 | fontenot | :-D |
| 08:18.09 | fontenot | :-( oh |
| 08:18.24 | andersee | Which Target Processor Type did you pick? |
| 08:18.28 | fontenot | arm |
| 08:18.35 | andersee | 1. Generic Arm |
| 08:18.35 | andersee | ? |
| 08:18.41 | andersee | or |
| 08:18.44 | andersee | 9. Intel StrongArm SA-1100? |
| 08:18.46 | andersee | or something else |
| 08:18.52 | andersee | for the uCLibc build... |
| 08:20.05 | fontenot | ARCH:=arm OPTIMIZE_FOR_CPU=$(ARCH) USE_UCLIBC_SNAPSHOT:=false |
| 08:20.36 | andersee | fontenot: ok |
| 08:20.37 | fontenot | hmmmmmm |
| 08:20.40 | fontenot | that reminds me |
| 08:20.44 | andersee | Did you update the makefile then? |
| 08:20.46 | andersee | i.e. |
| 08:20.47 | andersee | change |
| 08:20.50 | andersee | UCLIBC_DIR:=$(BUILD_DIR)/uClibc-0.9.20 |
| 08:20.50 | andersee | UCLIBC_SOURCE:=uClibc-0.9.20.tar.bz2 |
| 08:20.50 | andersee | UCLIBC_SITE:=http://www.uclibc.org/downloads |
| 08:20.55 | andersee | to instead use .21 |
| 08:20.57 | andersee | ? |
| 08:21.00 | fontenot | no |
| 08:21.13 | fontenot | usually first thing I do is see if thse things work with minimal changes |
| 08:21.23 | andersee | I guess I need to fix that |
| 08:21.34 | fontenot | to eliminate my changes from the equation |
| 08:21.43 | fontenot | but I seem to remember something |
| 08:22.07 | fontenot | when I first built the toolchain, I had to answer lots of questions about uclibc config - but then I changed to arm and didn't have to... |
| 08:22.34 | fontenot | maybe that was in the buildroot - arg |
| 08:22.39 | andersee | You had to answer questions since I have not yet updated the toolchain config |
| 08:22.53 | andersee | anyway, I'm building for arm now |
| 08:23.15 | andersee | so I'll fix things |
| 08:23.34 | fontenot | :-D |
| 08:24.56 | fontenot | hmm I seem to remember having to downgrade binutils for the arm toolchain last time |
| 08:26.16 | fontenot | I do remember having problems which I tracked to binutils 2.14 |
| 08:27.52 | fontenot | but it wan't this exact error - I would remember that much |
| 08:28.25 | fontenot | trying a build with 0.9.21 now - not I see what you mean about Target Processor Type |
| 08:28.29 | fontenot | now I see |
| 08:29.02 | fontenot | wow does xscale actually work now ? I want that! |
| 08:29.35 | fontenot | arg, I dunno what the endianess should be |
| 08:29.43 | fontenot | guess I'll choose big |
| 08:49.58 | andersee | fontenot: you want little |
| 08:50.16 | andersee | fontenot: I highly doubt you have a big endian xscale |
| 08:50.35 | andersee | fontenot: and yes, xscale optimizations really do work |
| 08:50.36 | andersee | :-) |
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| 09:04.38 | andersee | fontenot: well, it compiled for me... |
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| 13:02.01 | fontenot | arg. looks like my sed is too old on rh7.3 - sed 3.02 does not have -s (4.07 does) |
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| 13:11.56 | fontenot | hmm that was weird - when I accidentally chose big endian on previous cvs checkout it failed with sed -s problem. I checked out latest and chose little endian and it just completed |
| 13:14.10 | ade|desk | hmm weird |
| 13:18.17 | sjhill_ | wha? |
| 13:18.30 | sjhill_ | oh, nvmnd |
| 13:20.41 | fontenot | now on buildroot I get this: make: *** No rule to make target `/home/packages/uclibc/buildroot/build_arm/linux/.configured', needed by `/home/packages/uclibc/buildroot/build_arm/uClibc-0.9.21/.configured'. Stop. |
| 13:21.37 | fontenot | I'll look into it later - I probably need to copy my configured arm kernel somewhere and hack a .mk file like last time |
| 13:22.19 | chouimat | morning |
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| 13:26.01 | sjhill | hi chouimat |
| 13:26.14 | chouimat | hi sjhill |
| 13:31.13 | fontenot | ah there is no kernel-headers.mk (TARGETS+=kernel-headers) |
| 13:32.27 | fontenot | looks like I want system-linux anyway, pointing to my ipaq kernel |
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| 13:53.25 | prpplague | morning all |
| 13:53.56 | sjhill | hi prpplague |
| 13:58.12 | prpplague | sjhill: morning |
| 13:58.19 | prpplague | sjhill: hows life at timesys |
| 13:59.26 | sjhill | prpplague: great |
| 13:59.33 | sjhill | lots of cool work |
| 14:00.01 | prpplague | sjhill: bastard |
| 14:00.03 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
| 14:00.08 | sjhill | heh |
| 14:02.48 | fontenot | whoo-hoo - it's building busybox now! |
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| 14:04.30 | prpplague | fontenot: nothing more satisfing than seeing a completed build of bb, lol |
| 14:05.46 | fontenot | heh |
| 14:05.53 | ade|desk | prpplague: 2 builds of bb , thats got to be better |
| 14:06.02 | fontenot | hmm now I am trying to make a cramfs image and I get this: mkcramfs: /dev/net/tun: could not find parent |
| 14:06.12 | fontenot | this is with latest buildroot BTW |
| 14:07.15 | fontenot | probably an issue wuth device_table.txt - OK this I really am going to look at later - gotta get some sleep |
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| 14:10.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ho ho ho |
| 14:10.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: morning |
| 14:10.34 | CosmicPenguin | morning |
| 14:10.43 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: you still on fltk 1.0.x ? |
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| 14:11.55 | chouimat | hi prpplague |
| 14:12.03 | prpplague | chouimat: lo |
| 14:13.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep - I refuse to move up |
| 14:13.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lots of crap, not much benifit |
| 14:14.02 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the 1.1.x has some graphics widgets i've been trying to get to work |
| 14:14.12 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: png and jpeg |
| 14:14.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: works great on desktop, nada on arm |
| 14:21.23 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: do they used signed integers? |
| 14:21.25 | CosmicPenguin | Packing? |
| 14:21.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: these are some common x86->arm PITAs |
| 14:22.22 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i looked yesterday, it looks like they are using unsigned |
| 14:25.38 | pb_ | could check for sizeof(struct) assumptions. |
| 14:25.58 | prpplague | pb_: ok thanks, i'll check on those as well |
| 14:26.11 | pb_ | (or build with -mstructure-size-boundary=8 and see if matters improve) |
| 14:35.22 | prpplague | well it looks like its definetly libpng and libjpeg related, i can display xpm and bitmap images with no problems |
| 14:37.56 | CosmicPenguin | Both those libraries should be ARM capable |
| 14:38.29 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: agreed |
| 14:39.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i'm thinking my arm build of fltk might be the problem |
| 14:39.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: maybe |
| 14:39.25 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: whats it doing on ARM? Segfaulting? |
| 14:40.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the 1.1.x fltk goes through an array of handled file types, on x86 it identifies the file type and loads it, but on the arm, it doesn't recognize the file type and fails |
| 14:40.44 | CosmicPenguin | Thats got to be a packing issue |
| 14:41.26 | CosmicPenguin | nope |
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| 15:01.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: seems my toolchain has x86 headers for jpeg and png |
| 15:11.02 | CosmicPenguin | that sucks |
| 15:11.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: can't figure out where they came from |
| 15:12.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the basic 2.95.3 toolchain doesn't include the zlib, png and jpeg headers |
| 15:13.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: those get installed by the individual packages |
| 15:14.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: right, but i don't recall having installed them into my toolchain dir |
| 15:15.39 | CosmicPenguin | weird |
| 15:15.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: the headers should be the same whether they are x86 or arm right? |
| 15:16.19 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they should |
| 15:16.37 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but the config.h may be different |
| 15:17.40 | CosmicPenguin | If it reads the magic value directly, the odds are that they are not handling it in a universal sort of way |
| 15:27.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: wahoo, helps when you have the right headers |
| 15:27.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: argh |
| 15:31.13 | kergoth | putting headers into your toolchain? use a buildroot |
| 15:31.17 | kergoth | cleaner |
| 15:31.17 | kergoth | :P |
| 15:34.39 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: sometimes a buildroot isn't indicated |
| 15:34.43 | CosmicPenguin | buildroots suck for development |
| 15:36.27 | kergoth | heh |
| 15:36.27 | kergoth | uh |
| 15:36.32 | kergoth | use the buildroot to populate staging |
| 15:36.40 | kergoth | ta da, set your flags vars to point ther and build away |
| 15:36.51 | kergoth | thats what I do generally. I never touch the toolchain as a policy choice |
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| 15:38.15 | kergoth | hey signal11 |
| 15:39.44 | signal11 | whats up |
| 15:39.57 | signal11 | sorry for the constant leaving & returning. |
| 15:40.10 | signal11 | time for the annual desktop paradigm shift. |
| 15:40.40 | signal11 | this time i'm trying to create one that's as windows-like as possible for my wife; including crossover for word & quicken. |
| 15:40.46 | signal11 | qvwm rules. |
| 15:41.14 | signal11 | mozilla's handling of geometry information drools. |
| 15:41.31 | signal11 | that goes for galeon & firebird too |
| 15:42.05 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: you setting up different window managers for you and your wife? |
| 15:42.27 | prpplague | kergoth: ya i don't either, thats why its odd that i would have them there |
| 15:43.05 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: well i will try to live with the identical setup to make sure it has everything it needs. |
| 15:43.22 | signal11 | but eventually i'll go back to good ol fvwm |
| 15:45.22 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: I want to move to FVWM on my side, but I would like to either stick with Natulius or move to QVWM |
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| 15:45.50 | CosmicPenguin | for my wife |
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| 15:47.05 | signal11 | come on, chmod -x /usr/bin/nautilus |
| 15:47.35 | signal11 | too slow. qvwm is instant. kind of like running windows 3.1 on an opteron. |
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| 16:19.41 | CosmicPenguin | signal11: if you figure out how to make RH7.3 do mulitple window managers reliably let me know how you did it |
| 16:20.13 | signal11 | have you played with Xsession |
| 16:20.36 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: I use kdm and switch at login. seems to work ok. why? |
| 16:20.55 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: I've never been able to get it to work right |
| 16:21.36 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: I can change WMs universally, but I haven't figured out how to make it work seemlessly with different users |
| 16:21.40 | CosmicPenguin | Gnome likes to make it very difficult |
| 16:22.42 | signal11 | CosmicPenguin: you should just have to create a session file in /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions/ |
| 16:23.00 | signal11 | must have +x |
| 16:23.09 | signal11 | i created one for wmx that was just this: |
| 16:23.14 | signal11 | #!/bin/bash |
| 16:23.17 | signal11 | exec /usr/bin/wmx |
| 16:23.34 | signal11 | and it shows up in the gdm session menu |
| 16:23.49 | signal11 | and it seems to magically remember the user's preference |
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| 16:25.51 | sieve_work | morning all |
| 16:25.59 | kergoth | hey sieve_work |
| 16:34.32 | ade|desk | anyideas howto find out whats inside an intel usb device without opening it up, its ppp ( poxy piece of plastic) that'll never last a disasseble |
| 16:42.31 | CosmicPenguin | You mean beyond the USB hardware? |
| 16:44.14 | ade|desk | i dont use usb at all beyond a mouse, have no clue about what can be found out on the bus |
| 16:44.28 | ade|desk | is there info like a pci dump ? |
| 16:45.47 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not sure - USB is a bit different - I don't think that it has lots of registers like the PCI |
| 16:46.00 | CosmicPenguin | They are pretty universal (heh) - you toss packets at them and they toss packets back |
| 16:46.06 | kergoth | lsusb is your friend |
| 16:49.51 | ade|desk | ta, but still no idea whats inside :( |
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| 16:50.09 | kergoth | true that |
| 16:51.10 | ade|desk | would like to know the radio chip :/ looks like i'll have to destroy it :( |
| 16:51.29 | CosmicPenguin | dremel time! |
| 16:52.17 | pb_ | what did lsusb say? |
| 16:52.19 | ade|desk | na , subtle way : big f**koff hammer |
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| 16:59.23 | ade|desk | pb_: any the wiser ? |
| 16:59.50 | pb_ | did you try looking up the device and vendor IDs? |
| 17:00.18 | ade|desk | pb_: where can i do a lookup ? |
| 17:00.20 | Russ | usb devices can have lots of registers |
| 17:00.40 | Russ | the easiest way to see them is to install the usb sniffer for windows and let the driver run |
| 17:00.50 | pb_ | ade|desk: well, 8086 is fairly obviously intel's vendor ID. not sure if they have a complete list of device IDs available. |
| 17:01.11 | Russ | you'd be looking for the vendor id |
| 17:01.54 | ade|desk | pb_: i know its a intel anypoint II usb 802.11b device with an at76c503a |
| 17:02.03 | Russ | oh |
| 17:02.05 | Russ | thats not intel |
| 17:02.07 | Russ | its atmel |
| 17:02.20 | ade|desk | but i need to find the radio chip |
| 17:02.54 | Russ | what is the id pair? |
| 17:03.08 | Russ | 0x8086 0x0200? |
| 17:03.17 | pb_ | ade|desk: oh, I see. I guess you looked at both the at76c503a drivers to see if they recognise that device already. |
| 17:04.21 | Russ | its not currently supported by anything |
| 17:04.21 | ade|desk | yup |
| 17:04.37 | Russ | but you could watch the windows driver and try to divine the radio and such |
| 17:04.52 | Russ | then use this: http://at76c503a.berlios.de/ |
| 17:04.56 | ade|desk | looks like the berlios driver is the better one to add it to, if only a knew the chip |
| 17:05.46 | pb_ | yeah, the berlios driver seems better than the atmelwlandriver. |
| 17:05.47 | Russ | you could try each in turn |
| 17:06.01 | ade|desk | better find a windows box |
| 17:06.09 | ade|desk | doh |
| 17:06.10 | Russ | there is another driver yet |
| 17:06.20 | Russ | I want to kick atmels ass so hard |
| 17:06.25 | Russ | there are such asshats |
| 17:06.25 | ade|desk | ? |
| 17:06.51 | Russ | in december, 2002, they dropped support out of the GPL driver for a whole class of devices |
| 17:06.54 | Russ | why? |
| 17:06.58 | Russ | because they stopped making them |
| 17:07.05 | ade|desk | yup |
| 17:07.15 | ade|desk | but berlios still has the supprt |
| 17:07.25 | kergoth | heh, digi wanted to do that with their drivers |
| 17:07.52 | Russ | the other explaination was that it wasn't supported in the windows driver any more either |
| 17:08.01 | ade|desk | ah dads box has windows |
| 17:08.25 | ade|desk | time to find the driver |
| 17:09.08 | ade|desk | grr no ssh to it :( |
| 17:12.07 | Russ | time to get putty |
| 17:16.41 | ade|desk | is there an sshd for xp ? |
| 17:17.40 | kergoth | yep |
| 17:24.34 | CosmicPenguin | cygwin rules |
| 17:35.17 | Russ | 'insmod: error reading ELF section headers: Not a typewriter |
| 17:35.18 | Russ | insmod: Could not load the module: Not a typewriter' |
| 17:35.21 | Russ | I love that error |
| 17:38.49 | ade|desk | hmm an HFA3861BIN |
| 18:03.25 | ade|desk | well something is working on this intel crap :) |
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| 18:05.34 | ade|desk | anyone know wireless config at all ? |
| 18:13.16 | kergoth`food | yep, whats the question |
| 18:19.07 | ade|desk | wlan0 IEEE 802.11-DS ESSID:"spinney" Nickname:"beth2" |
| 18:19.07 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.07 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.07 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.07 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.07 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.09 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.11 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.13 | ade|desk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.18 | ade|desk | what am i doing wrong here ? |
| 18:19.51 | kergoth | uh, lets start by describing the symptoms, shall we? |
| 18:19.58 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:20.05 | ade|desk | hehe, right sorry |
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| 18:21.16 | ade|desk | well i've just got the usb driver to see the device, but i have no idea what i am doing from here, i guess a iwconfig, but what and how i know not |
| 18:21.46 | kergoth | well, is spinney the correct essid for your AP? |
| 18:21.48 | kergoth | to start. |
| 18:21.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 18:21.51 | ade|desk | the cell: 00:00 etc seems rather wrong to me |
| 18:21.52 | kergoth | are you using wep? |
| 18:21.55 | kergoth | oh, adhoc |
| 18:22.01 | kergoth | doh, /me knows nothing about adhoc config |
| 18:23.40 | ade|desk | i would have thought that the cell would e the mac address of the device |
| 18:24.19 | ade|desk | ah dmesg helps abit |
| 18:26.08 | CosmicPenguin | What a crock |
| 18:26.21 | CosmicPenguin | From a local radio ad: "If you have e-mail, you probably have a worm virus" |
| 18:26.36 | CosmicPenguin | I don't know where to begin with that one |
| 18:37.10 | TimRiker | CosmicPenguin: it's almost correct. Try "If you use a Microsoft e-mail client, you probably have a worm virus" |
| 18:37.35 | TimRiker | course then worm != virus... but ah well. it's a virus that installs a worm? |
| 18:38.23 | CosmicPenguin | TimRiker: you used to live in these parts - can you guess who the radio ad was for? |
| 18:50.59 | TimRiker | one of those silly tech schools |
| 18:51.12 | TimRiker | ITT tech? |
| 18:53.18 | CosmicPenguin | PC Laptops |
| 18:53.35 | CosmicPenguin | You know, the close friend of "Totally Awesome Computes" |
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| 19:17.21 | ricmm | hey prpplague!! |
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| 19:21.36 | file[wifi] | hello folks |
| 19:23.11 | prpplague | ricmm: howdy |
| 19:23.17 | prpplague | ricmm: whats cookin? |
| 19:23.38 | ricmm | here an ide controller, in the kitchen some beans |
| 19:23.41 | ricmm | hehehe |
| 19:23.49 | prpplague | ricmm: fun |
| 19:24.55 | ricmm | yeah, although im having some problems with it |
| 19:25.08 | ricmm | the pda hangs while trying to disable DMA |
| 19:26.30 | sjhill | prpplague: he's working on the nino...poort sob |
| 19:26.42 | ricmm | whats poort sob? |
| 19:26.52 | sjhill | ibot: what is sob? |
| 19:26.53 | | I think you lost me on that one, sjhill |
| 19:27.01 | sjhill | ibot: because you are an idiot |
| 19:27.02 | | sjhill: I think you lost me on that one |
| 19:30.07 | CosmicPenguin | THats not hard |
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| 20:07.18 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ported blob, got kernel booting, built rootfs, got x running, built a gui, wrote device driver for barcode scanner, total work time 32 hours, and management wants to know why it too so long |
| 20:08.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: quit |
| 20:08.25 | ricmm | hehe |
| 20:08.56 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ask them why it took you so long to insert your boot in their ass and walk out the door |
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| 20:56.39 | kergoth | hrmmm |
| 20:57.14 | ricmm | hi kergoth :P |
| 20:57.21 | kergoth | hey |
| 21:01.48 | kergoth | hhmmm |
| 21:02.04 | ricmm | ? |
| 21:02.25 | kergoth | running headlong into a gmake limitation, not sure how to work around it |
| 21:02.48 | ricmm | oh |
| 21:15.39 | file[wifi] | anybody alive? |
| 21:27.46 | ricmm | maybe in his ftp ? |
| 21:32.10 | file[wifi] | I looked |
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