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01:22.09 | chouimat | http://xmk.sourceforge.net/docs/index.html <---sound cool |
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02:33.25 | sorphin | GPSFan: evening |
02:34.06 | GPSFan | sorphin: evening dan, how's the weekend treating you? |
02:35.04 | sorphin | GPSFan: eh.. ssdd.. tomorrow i get older, hopefully catch UPS w/ my dvd blanks, start cleaning up before this next weekend.., i soldered the 1st board of the programmer w/ what i had so far.. was hoping a 233 would work, but that's 20 pins, and the spot is 16, so i gotta grab some 232s |
02:35.39 | GPSFan | ah, use your microscope? |
02:37.38 | sorphin | yup |
02:37.59 | GPSFan | does the ringlite provide you enough light? |
02:38.08 | sorphin | the second, i just pulled each pin out |
02:38.15 | sorphin | pliars on one side, iron on the other |
02:38.20 | sorphin | and yeah, it does fine |
02:40.28 | chouimat|eat | hey sorphin |
02:40.50 | sorphin | chouimat|eat: lo mat |
02:41.03 | sorphin | was flipping through channels last night, and your national hero was on VH1 |
02:42.45 | chouimat|eat | sorphin: you mean the harpie? |
02:43.00 | sorphin | yup |
02:43.12 | sorphin | notice the latest on SCO? |
02:44.03 | chouimat|eat | sorphin: not yet was working on a vpn today |
02:44.14 | sorphin | nod |
02:45.50 | chouimat|eat | and I'm tired so I finish my diner and I'mm going to bed |
03:28.41 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
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14:10.40 | sieve | morning all |
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14:25.09 | CosmicPenguin | Morning |
14:27.54 | sorphin | i knew they'd pull somehting |
14:28.15 | sorphin | network SUCKurity comes back saying 2 serial #'s are invalid, so apparently m ycatalyst doesn't exist :P |
14:29.28 | CosmicPenguin | Will wonders never cease? ftp://microwindows.censoft.com/pub/microwindows/nxlib-0.44.tar.gz |
14:31.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: neat, not that i know what nxlib is.. |
14:36.13 | CosmicPenguin | its a X11 -> Nano-X conversion library |
14:36.40 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: so tecnically, you could compile any X application to work under Nano-X |
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14:39.32 | Morn | morning folks |
14:39.40 | Morn | sorry I've been so absent recently |
14:39.42 | Morn | I've been very sick |
14:40.00 | kergoth | morning |
14:40.03 | kergoth | Morn: feeling better? |
14:40.19 | Morn | a little, the anti-biotics are starting work |
14:40.25 | Morn | and the codine helps with the headaches |
14:40.49 | CosmicPenguin | Morn: doh... |
14:41.41 | Morn | I've had a serious sinus infection, I was in a tremendous amount of pain |
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14:53.22 | sieve | Morn: sorry to hear that.. I hope you get to feeling better |
14:54.49 | sorphin | morn; dvd blanks should be here today.. sorry bout the sickness |
14:55.37 | sorphin | Morn: as for sinus infection, i have a chronic one, but recently it was a bit worse than normal |
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14:58.14 | Morn | sorphin: Not fun |
14:58.18 | Morn | this is the first time for me |
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15:14.58 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i'm one year closer to being as old as you again :P |
15:15.34 | sorphin | Morn: well, when sinus surgery doesn't fix it, nor does every med you've ever tried.. you know you have a prob :P |
15:17.43 | sorphin | ~flishslap sjhill |
15:17.44 | Morn | sorphin: ouch |
15:17.47 | sorphin | grr |
15:17.50 | sorphin | damn laggy crap |
15:17.53 | sorphin | ~fishslap sjhill |
15:17.55 | | ACTION slaps sjhill up side the head with a wet fish. |
15:18.02 | sorphin | Morn: indeed |
15:18.11 | sjhill | bleh |
15:18.12 | Morn | I think I am sick from allergies and the high pollen count |
15:18.19 | sorphin | Morn: hitting up a diff ENT on the 12th |
15:18.23 | sjhill | hey sorphin |
15:18.26 | sjhill | lo' Morn |
15:18.30 | sorphin | no allergies here, was just at an allergist not long ago |
15:18.31 | sjhill | prpplague: hi redneck |
15:18.47 | sorphin | sjhill: i know it was you that told network security to harass me :P |
15:19.16 | sjhill | oh definitely |
15:19.35 | sjhill | part of my purpose in life is to make yours miserable |
15:19.40 | sjhill | :) |
15:19.58 | sorphin | sjhill: i don't need the help on that part :P |
15:20.05 | sorphin | just working for mci does that |
15:20.09 | sjhill | heh |
15:20.33 | prpplague | sjhill: hey yankee |
15:20.37 | sorphin | sjhill: you've missed the fun |
15:20.41 | prpplague | sjhill: lol |
15:20.42 | sorphin | prpplague: hey gramps |
15:20.50 | prpplague | sjhill: hows life at timesys? |
15:21.10 | sjhill | prpplague: busy, but that's good, especially for a linux company |
15:21.10 | prpplague | sjhill: another day of code pimpin? |
15:21.14 | sjhill | yeah |
15:21.17 | sjhill | SH3 today |
15:21.34 | sjhill | SH4 was a last week and the week before |
15:21.49 | sorphin | "you might be a redneck if your irc handle is prpplague, oh wait, forget the might be, you *ARE* a redneck in that case" |
15:22.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you back in the land of cotton yet? |
15:22.38 | sorphin | sjhill: heh, SH4, dreamcast style :P |
15:22.39 | prpplague | sorphin: lol |
15:22.42 | kergoth | bleh |
15:22.50 | kergoth | ~mondays |
15:22.51 | | Sounds like _somebody_'s got a case of the Muhhndays! |
15:22.57 | sorphin | ~fishslap kergoth |
15:22.58 | | ACTION slaps kergoth up side the head with a wet fish. |
15:23.03 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, i don't fit in the exact mold of a redneck, but i do have some tendencies |
15:23.12 | sorphin | kergoth: give it up, you just got a new job, you can't say that yet |
15:23.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: yep, got back late sunday morning |
15:23.29 | sorphin | prpplague: face it, you're a redneck |
15:23.32 | sorphin | gunrack and all |
15:23.41 | kergoth | sorphin: i can too, simply due to the fact that I dont even have my own cubicle yet |
15:24.01 | sorphin | kergoth: could be worse |
15:24.15 | kergoth | indeed |
15:24.25 | sorphin | kergoth: least atm when he's not in meeting mode, you can harass tim ;) |
15:24.35 | sorphin | you *could* be in the basement w/ milton |
15:24.44 | sorphin | or whatever his name is |
15:25.44 | prpplague | kergoth: you get moved into your apartment? |
15:25.58 | sorphin | prpplague: do me a favor, make this my bday present :P, head over to richardson, to glenville rd or whatever, mci building, find network security, and start shooting |
15:26.09 | kergoth | prpplague: if living out of various boxes is considered moved in.. havent unpacked |
15:26.53 | sorphin | kergoth: you can't unpack yet anyways, you're not at your new trailer :P |
15:30.40 | prpplague | kergoth: sooo.... no big haired girl hitting on you yet? |
15:31.27 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, as much as i would love to do that, even sub-human life forms deserve to live, after all anthropologist need something to study |
15:31.44 | sorphin | prpplague: these people don't |
15:32.18 | sorphin | prpplague: not when they threaten my job, because their heads are too far up their asses to havea *real* clue |
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16:08.15 | CosmicPenguin | Can anyone guess the font that PocketPC is using here: http://www.pocketgear.com/Product_images/2/2369/ppc_poker_solitaire.gif |
16:25.01 | sorphin | nope |
16:25.07 | sorphin | unfortunately, a font is a font to me |
16:29.15 | sorphin | heh, a prpplague related story on /.: http://slashdot.org/articles/03/06/02/0023219.shtml?tid=137 |
16:33.31 | sorphin | comments even have much arguing about the serving temp of guinness |
16:36.28 | CosmicPenguin | bah |
16:39.09 | Russ | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030602/ap_on_re_as/india_deadly_heat_10 |
16:39.15 | Russ | these people need AC in a really bad way |
16:43.56 | CosmicPenguin | Thats so sad - India is making such an effort to prove they are a developed country by spending millions on broadband, yet thousands are dying from a lack of a basic air conditioner |
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16:54.20 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i just realized, we use some evil censoft software here at work |
16:54.31 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: no joke? |
16:54.35 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: what is it? |
16:54.39 | sorphin | TinyTerm |
16:54.47 | CosmicPenguin | Heh |
16:54.51 | CosmicPenguin | For Windoze? |
16:54.56 | sorphin | yeah |
16:55.04 | CosmicPenguin | Connecting to what? |
16:55.18 | sorphin | they use it for some reason to get to one of the order systems, dunno why |
16:55.19 | CosmicPenguin | What sort of freaky terminal protocol are you using out there? |
16:56.04 | sorphin | heh, i dunno what this thing uses, it's called TCOMS |
16:56.28 | sorphin | one of hte companies we bought back in the day used it, and it's still used for their stuff |
16:56.36 | CosmicPenguin | Is it a SCO box? |
16:56.53 | sorphin | well, orders that use the stuff that "was" theirs |
16:56.55 | sorphin | i dunno |
16:57.00 | sorphin | lemme check |
16:57.20 | CosmicPenguin | TinyTerm is really only useful for legacy protocols - you don't need to pay a hundred bucks a seat for VT102 these days |
16:58.19 | sorphin | nod |
16:58.57 | sorphin | well, i can't even get to the box aymore, since i haven't used it in eons, so they prolly changed where it is, but i know it telnet'd somewhere, and then somewhere else.. twas a weird setup |
16:59.26 | sorphin | let's just say it makes curses look like a winner :P |
17:12.43 | chouimat | hi |
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17:44.49 | CosmicPenguin | Has anyone dealt with memory that has a chip select for the base address? |
17:44.57 | CosmicPenguin | s/memory/system |
17:45.23 | Russ | what do you mean |
17:52.42 | andersee | CosmicPenguin: is that sortof like Cable Select on an IDE drive? |
17:52.46 | andersee | ;-) |
17:57.33 | CosmicPenguin | I guess - apparently this system base address starts out at 0x00000000 and then they switch it to 0xF0000000 |
17:58.02 | CosmicPenguin | The problem is, they don't switch it back, so the system gets lost when they try to do a warm reset |
17:58.57 | jnork | What kind of system is this? |
17:59.19 | CosmicPenguin | Some home grown XScale thingy |
17:59.47 | jnork | What processor? |
18:00.20 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
18:01.07 | jnork | Right, this is Embedded Linux channel... lost track |
18:01.29 | jnork | I've encountered programmable chip selects before... why do you ask? |
18:02.01 | CosmicPenguin | I'm just wondering the best way to reset the chip select during reset without freaking out the system |
18:02.26 | jnork | hmm |
18:03.53 | jnork | Assuming you can't force the chip to do a hard reset for some reason... you did say it's a warm reset... I'd be inclined to say, copy a small piece of code to scratch RAM somewhere (possibly even the stack), and have that piece of code reset CS0 and jump into the boot vector. |
18:04.27 | jnork | Obviously that RAM location needs to be controlled by something other than CS0. :) |
18:08.30 | CosmicPenguin | Thats going to be tough |
18:09.23 | CosmicPenguin | My thought was that we could do as much of the reset as possible |
18:09.50 | CosmicPenguin | Then we could get the address of a known block of code, modify the chip select, and then jump the PC to the known address (appropriately modified) |
18:10.13 | CosmicPenguin | Then, if we keep everything in registers, we should be able to turn off the MMU and jump to 0x0 without too much trouble |
18:11.01 | jnork | If you're running that code out of non-CS0 space, you can do that too. Problem is, if you're running from CS0 space and modify CS0, you yank your ROM out from under your processor. |
18:12.38 | CosmicPenguin | Even if we modify the PC accordingly? |
18:12.58 | jnork | Can you change CS0 and modify the PC in the same instruction? |
18:13.39 | CosmicPenguin | No, but we do have a pipeline that we can take advantage of |
18:14.18 | CosmicPenguin | We should be able to get 1 or 2 instructions in there before we have to go back to ROM |
18:14.20 | jnork | I don't know your processor or MMU, so I don't know what you can get away with. Yeah, if you know your PC modify (Jump instruction, heh) is in the pipeline, you can probably get away with it. |
18:14.48 | CosmicPenguin | I'm pretty sure that we can fit at least 2 memory moves in the processor. |
18:14.54 | CosmicPenguin | s/processor/pipeline/ |
18:16.09 | jnork | Has to be 100% dependable that the post-CS0-modify instructions are in the pipleline, enough to get you back to valid ROM. Otherwise you will get intermittent performance. |
18:17.07 | jnork | Not sure why the RAM idea is so hard to do? |
18:18.07 | jnork | I've done fairly large functions that way. Hell, I've done whole ROM sections that way, only way to run while flashing the ROM. |
18:18.51 | CosmicPenguin | I'm not entirely sure if we have any memory that isn't governed by CS0 |
18:19.02 | jnork | ROM in CS0? |
18:19.14 | CosmicPenguin | I think so |
18:19.21 | CosmicPenguin | In fact, I know so |
18:19.26 | jnork | Then RAM is almost certainly someplace else. |
18:20.07 | jnork | Unless somebody felt a need to have all of memory come off CS0 and add external chip select logic. |
18:21.08 | jnork | Me myself personally, I'd tend to kill whoever did that slowly and painfully, unless he had a DAMNED good reason for it. |
18:23.20 | jnork | They do that here all the time. But we have a very thick front wall, so many packages just fit between the storm door and the main door. |
18:23.30 | sorphin | nod |
18:23.55 | jnork | In fact, I got two packages today, one from UPS and one from USPS. About 10 minutes apart. |
18:24.28 | jnork | They don't even bother to knock, they just drop them off and leave. |
18:25.42 | sorphin | knocking here is pointless, by the time i get upstairs they've walked off already |
18:48.28 | chouimat | sorphin: a lot of directory that I don'w know what is in those |
18:50.04 | file | but I have no idea what I'm going to wear |
18:51.02 | chouimat | file: suit |
18:51.11 | prpplague | clean underwear |
18:51.14 | file | I don't have a suit |
18:51.26 | prpplague | or clean underwear? |
18:51.36 | file | nope I have clean underwear :p |
18:51.44 | chouimat | file: go buy one then |
18:51.52 | file | chouimat: wouldn't a suit be over doing it a wee bit? |
18:51.53 | chouimat | prpplague: hey prpplague |
18:52.12 | prpplague | chouimat: yo! whats up? |
18:52.22 | chouimat | file: remember you have only a chance of doing a first impression |
18:52.39 | sorphin | file: well, not so much a suit as a nice shirt and a tie |
18:52.45 | chouimat | prpplague: porting hugo to kde and qtopia <--- bored |
18:53.15 | prpplague | qtopia <--- demented |
18:53.16 | chouimat | prpplague: and got the new album of Rain Fell Within :) |
18:53.40 | prpplague | chouimat: was gonna go find evanesence cd tonigh |
18:53.42 | prpplague | t |
18:53.58 | prpplague | chouimat: really like that "wake me up" song |
18:54.12 | chouimat | prpplague: hehe I heard the new metallica album an man I wonder where those guys put their balls |
18:54.38 | prpplague | chouimat: their agents have them, along with their wallets |
18:56.07 | chouimat | prpplague: yup ... and I will see the Ozzy osbourne show in 2 weeks with voivod as the opening act and the ex-bass player of metallica will play with the two band that night (he's now with voivod) |
18:58.22 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, that why lars was so anti napster? agent took all his $ and he needed to make the payments on his gold plated ferarri? :P |
18:58.40 | chouimat | lol |
18:59.05 | sorphin | btw wake me up is the only song i like off of evanecences album when i listened to it |
18:59.40 | chouimat | sorphin: I think lars was against napster because they lost $$ on the bootleg sells :) |
18:59.47 | prpplague | sorphin: hmmm, none of the others are any good? |
18:59.58 | sorphin | prpplague: none caught my ear |
19:00.22 | prpplague | chouimat: what about you? listen to any of the other songs on the album? |
19:00.56 | chouimat | prpplague: I managed to download another one wait, I will refresh my memory :) |
19:04.44 | chouimat | prpplague: My last breath is ok |
19:06.17 | chouimat | prpplague: but the "wake me up" is way better |
19:07.32 | sorphin | prpplague: would suggest finding somewhere, i.e. borders, or somewhere that has listening stations |
19:13.24 | sorphin | chouimat: your name is Mud *g* |
19:20.29 | prpplague | sorphin: ya, i'll see what i can find |
19:20.37 | prpplague | oops, that was for chouimat |
19:25.48 | chouimat | sorphin: no Sailing the Seas of cheese |
19:26.57 | chouimat | http://www.kantron.net/adsl.htm <--- sound interesting for next year |
19:29.55 | sorphin | chouimat: mmmmmmmmmmm cheeeeeeeese |
19:45.29 | kergoth | hmmm |
19:54.07 | chouimat | kergoth: ? |
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20:59.15 | CosmicPenguin | So tired |
20:59.20 | sorphin | indeed |
20:59.28 | sorphin | after i finish this chinese, i'm taking a nap |
20:59.39 | sorphin | not much of a bday, but ah well |
21:00.05 | file | sorphin: Happy Birthday |
21:00.21 | chouimat | sorphin: happy birthday |
21:03.52 | kergoth | happy bday, dan. how old? |
21:05.15 | sorphin | kergoth: 28 |
21:05.21 | sorphin | and thanks guys |
21:06.39 | chouimat | sorphin: only 28 ;) |
21:06.49 | sorphin | chouimat: and ? |
21:06.56 | chouimat | sorphin: nm |
21:08.03 | chouimat | kergoth: can we have a 2.4.18 image on the 5000d? |
21:08.55 | chouimat | or the sd module is still on your hdd |
21:14.16 | kergoth | chouimat: module's also in the v3 sharp rom, which uses 2.4.18 |
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21:36.43 | jnork | Happy birthday. |
21:36.57 | jnork | chouimat: And how old are you? :) |
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21:38.35 | file | chouimat: HD? |
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21:43.03 | chouimat | file: didn't have time yet |
21:54.02 | chouimat | kergoth: any inexpensive name registrar? |
21:56.00 | kergoth | chouimat: ask tmm1 |
21:58.19 | chouimat | kergoth: anyway it's seem that the name I wan to use is registred .... wtf registred my family name |
21:58.49 | chouimat | kergoth: remember ulyx the bot ? |
21:58.59 | kergoth | yep |
21:59.17 | chouimat | kergoth: it's seems that ulyx.ca is available :-P |
21:59.46 | chouimat | kergoth: .com,.org and .net too |
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22:40.48 | Russ | godaddy.com |
22:41.35 | chouimat | Russ: ? |
22:42.36 | Russ | "any inexpensive name registrar?" |
22:42.51 | chouimat | Russ: ok thanks |
22:43.25 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: I use joker.com |
22:43.36 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: though now that the Euro is doing so well, it might not be as cheap |
22:44.13 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: I'm currently in .ca :) |
22:45.00 | chouimat | any I don't need one today I'm planning for next month |
22:45.34 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: And I'm in the US, your point being? |
22:46.41 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: nothing I'm currently tired and hungry I'm wondering if I'm going out to eat or go to the grocery |
22:46.49 | Russ | did french canada switch over to the euro? |
22:47.11 | chouimat | Russ: not yet :) |
22:48.24 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat, Russ: Its all about the exchange rate |
22:49.12 | chouimat | 1 cad is 0.7302usd |
22:50.07 | CosmicPenguin | They charge my credit card in euros - and the CC company converts that to dollars |
22:50.27 | chouimat | 1 cad is 0.6217 euro and 1 cad is 0.4467 GBP |
22:51.26 | file | could you look me in the eye? and tell me that you're happy now? |
22:51.58 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: so a 10 euro registration will cost you 16.08 cad |
22:52.33 | file | I use dotyou.com |
22:52.33 | chouimat | file: ? |
22:52.45 | file | they're $9.95 and include DNS hosting... plus e-mail forwarding... |
22:52.52 | file | $13.61 CAD |
22:54.20 | Russ | https://registrar.godaddy.com/default.asp?isc=&se=%2B&from%5Fapp=&authGuid= |
22:54.33 | Russ | starts at $8.95, and goes down from there |
22:54.44 | chouimat | ok thanks |
22:54.55 | chouimat | file: www.kantron.net/adsl.htm |
22:55.36 | file | nifty |
22:55.51 | chouimat | file: yup 6.50CAD/month for static ip |
22:56.01 | file | chouimat: is it available for you? |
22:56.15 | chouimat | file: yup |
22:56.25 | file | chouimat: looks good |
22:57.05 | chouimat | file: at both place ... I mean if I can't have the quebec appartment and I moving back to my mother house |
22:57.09 | file | chouimat: $39.95/mth here for 1.6Mbps down and 640Kbps up, dynamic ip |
22:57.45 | chouimat | file: I can have heavy user at quebec but not at my mother house |
22:58.11 | file | chouimat: ic |
22:58.26 | file | chouimat: they had to run a new phone line here for me to get my full speed |
22:58.44 | Russ | I pay an extra 8 bucks a month for 8 statics |
22:59.38 | file | I just get unlimited dynamic ips (for how many computers I have connected...) |
22:59.45 | chouimat | Russ: it's the first proovider that I saw that offer static here in quebec, I can have it with others but if I take the "Business package" at 200/months |
23:00.00 | chouimat | file: the no cap is good too :-P |
23:00.05 | Russ | do you get to reverse? |
23:00.15 | file | chouimat: my ISP used to cap, not anymore |
23:00.51 | file | cable internet costs more here... you get less speed too... |
23:01.23 | Russ | geez, 1M up/1M down for about $160 |
23:01.27 | Russ | thats pricey |
23:01.36 | CosmicPenguin | WOw |
23:01.59 | file | CosmicPenguin: for what speed? |
23:02.02 | chouimat | file: I don't know which modem to buy |
23:02.04 | Russ | you actually got 1M up? |
23:02.08 | Russ | er, get |
23:02.24 | CosmicPenguin | It varies at this point |
23:02.36 | Russ | dsl? |
23:04.04 | chouimat | Russ: is that for me or CosmicPenguin? |
23:04.12 | Russ | CosmicPenguin |
23:04.32 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: cable |
23:04.33 | chouimat | Russ: http://www.kantron.net/adsl.htm <-- which modem on that page? |
23:04.51 | Russ | no upstream cap then? |
23:05.18 | CosmicPenguin | Russ: on total bandwidth? |
23:05.31 | Russ | ? |
23:05.35 | Russ | upstream |
23:05.52 | CosmicPenguin | I haven't encountered one yet |
23:06.06 | Russ | all the cable here is capped at 128k or 256k |
23:06.34 | Russ | (upstream) |
23:09.26 | chouimat|away | brb I'm going to fetch something to eat |
23:12.50 | CosmicPenguin | Seeh - PTI doesn't translate well to radio |
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23:53.40 | file | GAH |
23:53.43 | file | my poor broken laptop |
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23:55.29 | ab0oo | Tim, are you around? |
23:56.47 | ab0oo | can anyone here help me bring a dead TuxScreen back to life? |
23:57.20 | chouimat|food | hmmmmm KFC |