| 00:01.06 | kergoth | you know, this lack of control+c in pure console is really getting on my nerves |
| 00:01.37 | kergoth | you figure out the crosscompile w/ symlink madness yet? |
| 00:02.33 | mallum | kergoth: I have the key next to Fn mapped as a ctrl in X |
| 00:02.47 | kergoth | thats what i was planning on as well |
| 00:02.50 | mallum | kergoth: no joy with the dumb symlinkness |
| 00:02.59 | kergoth | that sucks. |
| 00:03.13 | kergoth | are you using a staging area for them yet, or still linking in your toolchain? |
| 00:03.27 | mallum | kergoth: the x startup script fire off a big modmap that maps all the keys, including calender etc and fn mappings |
| 00:03.38 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:03.49 | kergoth | what we should do, for most of it, is create a kernel keymap with the mapping |
| 00:03.56 | kergoth | (assuming their keyboard driver gives us that level of control) |
| 00:04.11 | mallum | kergoth: yeah definelty. tinyx should then just pick that up |
| 00:04.13 | kergoth | since both X and qt/e will inherit the mapping, and i want ctrl+c in console :) |
| 00:04.14 | kergoth | yep |
| 00:05.02 | mallum | kergoth: at the moment I've just edited PATH in vars make , putting the x-compile bindir last |
| 00:05.11 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:05.15 | mallum | kergoth: and making the symlinks :( |
| 00:05.19 | kergoth | so its not ready to go upstream into my bkbits tree yet |
| 00:05.20 | kergoth | ;) |
| 00:05.39 | mallum | kergoth: nope :((, thats about all its waiting on really |
| 00:05.44 | kergoth | yeah, figured |
| 00:05.44 | kergoth | k |
| 00:06.02 | mallum | kergoth: oh and I have to test on my SL5000 |
| 00:06.07 | kergoth | k |
| 00:06.18 | mallum | kergoth: whats the 'codename' for that btw ? |
| 00:06.29 | kergoth | collie = 5000d/5500 |
| 00:06.32 | kergoth | poodle = b500/5600 |
| 00:06.34 | kergoth | corgi = c700 |
| 00:06.37 | mallum | cool, thats what I thought |
| 00:06.40 | kergoth | i always forget the name for a300 |
| 00:06.42 | TheMasterMind1 | they're dogs! |
| 00:06.50 | kergoth | yes, they are |
| 00:07.02 | mallum | model |
| 00:07.03 | chouimat|cooking | kergoth: next one :pitbull ? |
| 00:07.08 | kergoth | hehe |
| 00:07.16 | kergoth | nono |
| 00:07.17 | kergoth | mutt |
| 00:07.18 | kergoth | ! |
| 00:07.22 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:07.48 | mallum | kergoth: I started hacking the imake files to fix the symlink think but thats very orrible :( |
| 00:07.58 | kergoth | hehe. yep |
| 00:08.08 | kergoth | but its one horrible thing or another.. no good solution |
| 00:08.11 | mallum | kergoth: can you think of some kind of LD_PRELOAD for binarys kind of hook ? |
| 00:08.12 | jacques | English Bulldog |
| 00:08.19 | mallum | PUG |
| 00:08.34 | kergoth | my ex- was so into pugs |
| 00:08.41 | kergoth | theyre funny lookin |
| 00:08.47 | kergoth | like they chased a parked car |
| 00:08.50 | kergoth | squish face |
| 00:09.21 | mallum | http://opal.he.net/~mallum/pugs/arnie.jpg |
| 00:09.26 | mallum | http://opal.he.net/~mallum/pugs/clint.jpg |
| 00:09.32 | mallum | there 6 weeks old there |
| 00:09.49 | jacques | LOL |
| 00:09.53 | chouimat|cooking | http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/release-names.txt <---- distcc release-names.txt |
| 00:09.59 | mallum | there my gf's really, I got her them for xmas |
| 00:10.35 | kergoth | mallum: hah |
| 00:10.44 | chouimat|cooking | mallum: http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/bob.jpg |
| 00:10.46 | kergoth | pugs are cute, i'll give em that. funny lookin little things |
| 00:10.52 | mallum | kergoth: do other packages depend on x-compiler being first in path |
| 00:11.38 | kergoth | mallum: well, the only time it could be an issue is if the user has a toolchain in their path already, it'd use that one instead of the one they specified in the buildroot config |
| 00:15.25 | mallum | chouimat|food: http://opal.he.net/~mallum/pics/better_now.jpg <-- my super tough black cat |
| 00:16.04 | mallum | chouimat|food: he got ran over and pretty messed up -> http://opal.he.net/~mallum/pics/caged-space-cat.jpg |
| 00:17.00 | mallum | kergoth: yeah, thats what I guessed |
| 00:17.30 | mallum | kergoth: Im sure theres some wierd kernel thing where you can get it todo things when a binarys no found, or it fits a certain criteria |
| 00:18.20 | kergoth | we could do some form of evil makefile hack |
| 00:18.25 | kergoth | but i dont feel up to it |
| 00:18.31 | kergoth | after a day of ugly evil perl hacks |
| 00:18.47 | file | kergoth: ooh your a perl person too? |
| 00:19.05 | kergoth | yeah, though python is slowly growing on me due to its readability |
| 00:19.12 | file | kergoth: ic |
| 00:19.16 | mallum | yeah python is nice |
| 00:19.22 | file | kergoth: ever have a problem with multi threading and sockets? |
| 00:19.40 | kergoth | nope, I only did that a few times, but the basic servers i setup worked fine |
| 00:19.47 | file | kergoth: ic |
| 00:19.50 | kergoth | basically it was just to learn that particular aspect of perl. concept code |
| 00:19.59 | kergoth | the other day, i lost my concept code dir |
| 00:20.11 | kergoth | with all the little excerpts of code i've found useful learning languages and doing things over the years |
| 00:20.15 | kergoth | that blew. |
| 00:20.27 | file | kergoth: I've been using a perl module for AIM... for connecting and such, but if I spawn my message processing code and try to send a message elsewhere - it fails miserably |
| 00:20.36 | file | kergoth: tried it with 2 modules, same results from both |
| 00:20.44 | kergoth | odd. |
| 00:20.52 | file | yeah |
| 00:22.01 | file | kergoth: the first module caused the connection to reset, and the second one spits out an error saying I haven't signed on |
| 00:22.17 | file | kergoth: but if I send a message while in the incoming message processing stuff it works fine |
| 00:22.25 | file | kergoth: or in the event handlers |
| 00:23.44 | chouimat|food | huh? a mouse with an integreted FM radio??? |
| 00:23.49 | kergoth | chouimat|food: eh?? |
| 00:24.30 | chouimat|food | kergoth: just saw that on tv ... a co release a mouse with a FM receiver in it |
| 00:24.41 | kergoth | chouimat|food: thats fucking stupid. |
| 00:24.52 | mallum | chouimat|food: thats not as cool as a usb powered heated coffee mug |
| 00:25.07 | kergoth | mallum: aha |
| 00:25.41 | kergoth | that reminds me of the http rfc for controlling coffee pots |
| 00:25.50 | chouimat|food | mallum: I what a usb powered coffee maker |
| 00:25.59 | kergoth | chouimat|food: i'd prefer network attached |
| 00:26.02 | kergoth | :) |
| 00:26.16 | file | I'd prefer the coffee maker to stream music as well |
| 00:26.36 | kergoth | nah, need the coffee cup to stream music instead |
| 00:26.36 | file | or maybe a toaster... |
| 00:26.49 | file | quite right |
| 00:26.50 | kergoth | the toaster needs a webcam |
| 00:26.53 | kergoth | http://mytoaster/ |
| 00:26.57 | kergoth | hey look, its almost done! |
| 00:27.07 | file | probably easily done |
| 00:27.12 | kergoth | indeed |
| 00:27.39 | chouimat|food | kergoth: nah! I want a networked oven and fridge :) |
| 00:27.41 | kergoth | mallum: where are your current c700 X packages? |
| 00:27.56 | kergoth | chouimat|food: yes! then it could beep me at my computer via a jabber message telling me my food is done |
| 00:28.01 | kergoth | chouimat|food: :) |
| 00:28.03 | file | go Jabber! |
| 00:28.22 | mallum | http://www.dct-net.co.jp/special/usb_hot.html |
| 00:28.28 | mallum | but not a useful as |
| 00:28.49 | kergoth | mallum: aha |
| 00:28.54 | kergoth | mm torengo |
| 00:28.54 | kergoth | s |
| 00:29.08 | file | these are splash of salsa flavored ones |
| 00:29.13 | chouimat|food | kergoth: and it can tell you if you still have beer in it :) |
| 00:29.14 | kergoth | man, there's this noname brand of salsa chips in my vending machine at work |
| 00:29.22 | kergoth | that are the best of that type i've ever had |
| 00:29.27 | sorphin | welp |
| 00:29.29 | kergoth | fairly surprising |
| 00:29.30 | sorphin | when timmy reappears |
| 00:29.35 | sorphin | he and i have to have a long talk |
| 00:29.39 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:29.42 | kergoth | fedex fun? |
| 00:29.43 | mallum | http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/akiba/hotline/20030222/etc_habrashi.html |
| 00:29.48 | file | kergoth: I'm addicted to Zesty Cheese Doritos |
| 00:29.55 | sorphin | i *told* him twice here AND in the paypal notes |
| 00:29.58 | sorphin | Fedex Gnd |
| 00:30.03 | sorphin | he shipped fedex saver |
| 00:30.07 | mallum | kergoth: if you give me a mo, I can tarball up my latest and upload |
| 00:30.08 | sorphin | guess how much that's costing me |
| 00:30.14 | sorphin | go ahead |
| 00:30.15 | sorphin | guess :P |
| 00:30.22 | file | more than your worth |
| 00:30.29 | chouimat|food | kergoth: or tell you when the milk turn sour :) |
| 00:30.35 | kergoth | mallum: cool. i'm heading home soon anyway, wont look at it till later.. but if you would email me the location, thatd be cool. I'd like to play around with it |
| 00:30.42 | sorphin | $40 |
| 00:31.03 | mallum | kergoth: cool, I'll post up the ts_calibrate patch too |
| 00:31.04 | kergoth | eh, $40 in shipping for a $50 device? |
| 00:31.05 | kergoth | ouch |
| 00:31.13 | sorphin | kergoth: for 2 of them |
| 00:31.16 | kergoth | ah |
| 00:31.17 | kergoth | even so |
| 00:31.31 | sorphin | gnd woulda been prolly $16 at most |
| 00:32.23 | sorphin | kergoth: considering he went from $10 to $50 anyways just on the DCTs :P |
| 00:32.29 | chouimat|food | file: my cat is addicted to those too |
| 00:32.47 | file | chouimat|food: mmmmmmmm so yummy |
| 00:33.45 | mallum | kergoth: where do you work btw ? |
| 00:34.16 | sorphin | digi |
| 00:34.18 | sorphin | intl |
| 00:34.27 | sorphin | is where kergoth calls home^H^H^H^Hhell |
| 00:34.33 | chouimat|food | file: saturday my cat finished a 5 pepper sauce I forgot on the stove .... I was 2 rooms away and I was hearing it purring |
| 00:34.47 | file | chouimat|food: lol |
| 00:36.31 | mallum | is that like digi-uk but in US ? |
| 00:37.36 | sorphin | mallum: that's digi everywhere ;) |
| 00:38.04 | sorphin | mallum: the basts that make all that serial junk |
| 00:38.31 | kergoth | serial ports. lots of serial ports. |
| 00:41.22 | sorphin | kergoth: buncha serial hackers |
| 00:41.45 | kergoth | stuck doing stupid web stuff all day today |
| 00:41.48 | kergoth | i need a drink |
| 00:42.13 | sorphin | damn |
| 00:42.17 | sorphin | these dcts... are wide |
| 00:42.20 | file | kergoth: alcoholic? |
| 00:42.28 | kergoth | file: indeed |
| 00:42.41 | kergoth | sorphin: yeah, i noticed that. seems fairly spiffy though |
| 00:43.02 | sorphin | kergoth: you got yours then? |
| 00:43.07 | file | chouimat: is there a restaraunt in Quebec City that's like an old pub? (walls are curved... people are dressed weird... serves weird stuff) |
| 00:43.22 | kergoth | sorphin: yeah, got it on satuday, havent done anything with it yet though |
| 00:43.28 | kergoth | ibot: seen timriker |
| 00:43.30 | | timriker <~timr@rikers.org> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4d 34m 13s ago, saying: 'no ts on a laptop'. |
| 00:43.30 | chouimat | file: there is an irish pub |
| 00:43.43 | file | chouimat: uh huh |
| 00:44.22 | file | ahhh the good ol' times... |
| 00:44.24 | chouimat | file: and other bars ... |
| 00:44.59 | chouimat | but if anyopne came in Quebec City and want to go to the Bar Male and Le Drague ... forget about me |
| 00:45.13 | file | chouimat: I liked the board walk myself... got too cold at night though |
| 00:45.27 | sorphin | chouimat: um.. Bar Male? |
| 00:45.34 | sorphin | that already sounds like a gay bar :P |
| 00:45.59 | chouimat | sorphin: it a gay bar ... country one |
| 00:46.34 | jacques | what is it about country gay bars? there is a big one in houtson too |
| 00:46.36 | jacques | houston |
| 00:46.39 | jacques | at least there was |
| 00:46.49 | chouimat | jacques: I'm in Quebec City .... |
| 00:47.04 | file | beautiful Quebec City... I didn't want to leave |
| 00:47.28 | chouimat | nope |
| 00:47.39 | file | gah |
| 00:47.48 | file | actually somebody in my group lost their glasses at the hotel |
| 00:50.20 | file | chouimat: uh oh |
| 00:51.15 | chouimat | brb phone |
| 00:51.34 | kergoth | oh nice |
| 00:51.41 | kergoth | the new hed p.e. album comes out tomorrow |
| 00:52.02 | file | chouimat: Bell is satin |
| 00:52.15 | file | Satin |
| 00:52.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:52.29 | sorphin | nice screws on the DCTs :P |
| 00:52.30 | mallum | kergoth: you've got mail |
| 00:52.33 | chouimat | file: huh? |
| 00:52.43 | file | chouimat: Bell, the phone company |
| 00:53.02 | kergoth | mallum: got it, thanks |
| 00:53.05 | file | chouimat: they're slowly engulfing Aliant (phone company here for Atlantic Provinces) |
| 00:53.16 | file | and they're EVIL@!#$@$%w$%^ |
| 00:53.29 | mallum | kergoth: hope its all good |
| 00:54.45 | kergoth | mallum: other than being a gzipped file named .bz2, not bad |
| 00:54.46 | kergoth | mallum: :P |
| 00:54.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 00:55.07 | sorphin | chouimat: "maxim takes on quebec" "we came, we saw, we spent our warchest on strippers" |
| 00:55.10 | mallum | kergoth: doh, tis late here - 1am |
| 00:55.34 | kergoth | mallum: I kinda like the subpackages/ deal |
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| 00:55.50 | kergoth | clean way of doing it |
| 00:55.50 | kergoth | heh |
| 00:56.01 | mallum | kergoth: cool, alot of its based on jg's original ipaq x package scripts |
| 00:56.09 | kergoth | cool |
| 00:56.11 | chouimat | the days when Mrs. Bush was giving birth to her daugthers, George was beside her, trying to confort her during the process. after both babies was placed in the nursery and the medical staff leaved the room, he turn to his wife and asked her very angrily: I want to know who is the other father! |
| 00:56.20 | mallum | kergoth: it pretty easy to add new packages - theres a lot in the x build |
| 00:56.26 | kergoth | chouimat: hah |
| 00:56.30 | file | mmm what does everyone think of the name "Quantum Hosting" |
| 00:56.30 | mallum | kergoth: I need to add x11perf |
| 00:56.39 | sorphin | chouimat: sad |
| 00:56.53 | kergoth | mallum: this is similar to debians, though with dirs rather than file.[packagename] |
| 00:57.09 | chouimat | sorphin: :P |
| 00:59.59 | mallum | kergoth: some of the detection stuff is a bit crap ( see /etc/X11/Xinit/* ) + repeated |
| 01:00.16 | kergoth | mallum: k |
| 01:00.22 | mallum | kergoth: idealy a devdetect package than ran with both fam and oz would be nice ;-) |
| 01:00.47 | kergoth | yeah i can split it out from oz-base |
| 01:00.52 | kergoth | i was planning to eventually anyway |
| 01:00.58 | mallum | cool |
| 01:01.29 | jacques | i wonder what would happen if I plugged one of these dct5000's into my at&t cable |
| 01:01.35 | jacques | (comcast now) |
| 01:02.01 | sorphin | jacques: they've come haul you off :P |
| 01:02.32 | jacques | sorphin: :-( the cable police |
| 01:02.48 | sorphin | jacques: something like that |
| 01:02.50 | kergoth | jacques: you ever get a chance to hack on tslib stuffs? |
| 01:03.28 | jacques | kergoth: sorry I have been totally distracted building gentoo on my ipaq - I hope to get back to the tux soon |
| 01:03.41 | chouimat | grrrrr! Bush on every channel :( |
| 01:03.43 | kergoth | not a problem, just curious |
| 01:03.49 | sorphin | chouimat: that's why my tv is off ;) |
| 01:04.17 | kergoth | tv sucks |
| 01:04.24 | jacques | kergoth: tho I did get started again - I built 4.3.0 with tslib support but was having other problems like it wanting ft libs but I solved that I think |
| 01:04.27 | chouimat | sorphin: I just found a french translation of a german show so I will watch that |
| 01:04.39 | sorphin | chouimat: oh lord |
| 01:04.45 | kergoth | jaheh |
| 01:04.46 | kergoth | er |
| 01:04.46 | kergoth | heh |
| 01:04.55 | kergoth | should just add tux support to the oz/oe buildroot |
| 01:04.56 | jacques | wtf is b*sh doing on tv now? |
| 01:05.02 | sorphin | jacques: umm |
| 01:05.05 | jacques | that cant be good |
| 01:05.12 | sorphin | telling america we're going to an unnecessary war :P |
| 01:05.19 | sorphin | prolly |
| 01:05.21 | chouimat | jacques: tell why he want to go in iraq |
| 01:05.30 | jacques | lol I would love for him to slip and actually say that |
| 01:05.35 | jacques | i would be rolling |
| 01:05.45 | file | he's pilfering out the excuses... |
| 01:05.58 | sorphin | jacques: if the secret svc is watching this |
| 01:06.16 | jacques | um just kidding guys |
| 01:06.27 | sorphin | i think (kill bush) he's being a complete moron (kill the president) about all of this |
| 01:06.34 | sorphin | :P |
| 01:06.43 | jacques | he he |
| 01:07.05 | jacques | i mena shame on you |
| 01:07.29 | sorphin | btw, secret svc guys |
| 01:07.40 | sorphin | my real name is Dwayne Jacques Fontenot |
| 01:07.43 | sorphin | and i live in sunnyvale |
| 01:07.44 | sorphin | :P |
| 01:07.50 | jacques | aaaa |
| 01:08.00 | jacques | someone banking on my door and shouting |
| 01:08.46 | sorphin | knock too |
| 01:10.37 | kergoth | mallum: hm, does your c700 resume when you suspend via apm -s in console? |
| 01:10.45 | mallum | kergoth: yes |
| 01:10.52 | kergoth | hm |
| 01:11.16 | jacques | hmm there's a not so secret c700 club here |
| 01:11.31 | sorphin | jacques: yup |
| 01:11.37 | kergoth | i dont own mine though |
| 01:11.44 | kergoth | so i'll have to say bye to it eventually |
| 01:11.45 | sorphin | kergoth: close enough ;p |
| 01:11.50 | kergoth | :P |
| 01:11.57 | kergoth | hmm |
| 01:11.59 | kergoth | close enough to 7 |
| 01:12.04 | sorphin | some of us don't even get one to play with :P |
| 01:12.42 | jacques | dan i have enough toys for right now |
| 01:12.44 | jacques | damn |
| 01:14.44 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:14.49 | jacques | BTW weirdstuff has these for $5 minus wall-wart and remote and camera http://www.atnetindia.net/stb128.html |
| 01:14.53 | sorphin | jacques: there is no such thing |
| 01:15.09 | sorphin | as too many toys, as kergoth would say |
| 01:15.33 | jacques | but I think they are too weak - I see a MC68302 as the only identifiable proc unless they are using that 8x8 chip which I cant find data on |
| 01:15.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:15.59 | sorphin | jacques: bout as powerful as an old cisco router :P |
| 01:16.50 | jacques | they have nice hw tho - phillips video encoder and decoders |
| 01:17.05 | jacques | isdn modem |
| 01:17.14 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:17.17 | sorphin | perfect timing |
| 01:17.21 | sorphin | bush talking on tv |
| 01:17.29 | sorphin | and FX has Executive Decision on ;) |
| 01:17.40 | sorphin | terrorists take teh plane! |
| 01:19.04 | sorphin | jacques: as i said |
| 01:19.10 | sorphin | he's being like daddy |
| 01:19.12 | sorphin | that's all |
| 01:19.34 | mallum | g'night all |
| 01:19.42 | chouimat | nite mallum |
| 01:19.43 | jacques | later mallum |
| 01:20.05 | file | There is no spoon dammit! ONLY FORK! |
| 01:20.36 | jacques | ibot: yow |
| 01:20.46 | jacques | LOL |
| 01:20.53 | chouimat | ibot yow |
| 01:22.23 | sorphin | ibot: kill the president for being a moron |
| 01:22.24 | | ACTION slits the president for being a moron's throat |
| 01:22.30 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:23.00 | chouimat | ibot be zippy |
| 01:23.05 | jacques | ibot: insult bush |
| 01:24.23 | jacques | i wonder is anyone has made a bush-speak filter yet |
| 01:24.39 | file | LOL |
| 01:25.45 | sorphin | ibot: move zig |
| 01:25.46 | | for great justice |
| 01:25.52 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:25.57 | sorphin | ibot: what you say |
| 01:26.01 | | picobot: you have no chance to survive make your time |
| 01:26.08 | chouimat | ibot be zippy |
| 01:28.02 | sorphin | heh |
| 01:28.56 | sorphin | ibot: nuke jacques |
| 01:28.56 | | sorphin: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 01:29.03 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:29.18 | jacques | heh |
| 01:29.45 | sorphin | ibot: nuke? |
| 01:29.46 | | Perl Source Code for a complete automated news site with comments and surveys.. URL: http://linux.ncc.org.ve/ |
| 01:29.54 | sorphin | umm |
| 01:30.05 | sorphin | how lame |
| 01:57.49 | chouimat | file: ping? |
| 02:05.26 | file | chouimat: pong |
| 02:06.07 | chouimat | file Nous Bon Saddam Pas fin nous boom saddam pour mieux etre irakien rester et nous avoir petrole pour moins dépendre de Arabi opss moi pas dire ca tout haut |
| 02:06.31 | file | chouimat: I understood some of that |
| 02:06.47 | file | chouimat: but french was last semester so I've forgotten 99.995% of my stuff |
| 02:07.18 | sorphin | heh |
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| 02:19.27 | chouimat | wb prpplague |
| 02:21.15 | prpplague | lo |
| 02:29.12 | MonMotha | heya prpplague |
| 02:29.27 | MonMotha | you have any spare time to hack on a port of BLOB to the webpal? |
| 02:29.40 | MonMotha | (or does anyone for that matter)...I'm pretty busy these days |
| 02:30.26 | prpplague | MonMotha: not sure, i'll know tommorrow after i get my schedule for the next few months |
| 02:30.37 | file | prpplague: expecting any big trips? |
| 02:30.51 | prpplague | ya |
| 02:31.02 | file | uh oh |
| 02:33.27 | MonMotha | prpplague: if you do have some time, I'll tar up my current devel tree |
| 02:33.39 | MonMotha | some stuff still needs to be written, but some of the core routines may be there |
| 02:33.42 | MonMotha | may :) |
| 02:34.06 | MonMotha | fortunately webpals are 16 bit so I don't have to do the 32bit ROM hack, which looks liek it would require modifications to start.S |
| 02:34.49 | sorphin | my webpals are currently scrapped :P |
| 02:35.06 | sorphin | since i've been waiting for someone *cough*monmotha*cough* to finish his programmer |
| 02:35.35 | MonMotha | sorphin: as I said, I've been busy |
| 02:35.48 | MonMotha | I just need to finish the ACK logic (I had it working, then I broke it :) and build the damn thing |
| 02:35.53 | MonMotha | I have all the hardware I need to build it |
| 02:35.58 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:36.09 | MonMotha | lots of chips (like 15)...that takes a lot of proto boards since I don't have the facilities to make large PCB |
| 02:36.10 | MonMotha | s |
| 02:36.15 | MonMotha | not to mention lacking a SIMM slot... |
| 02:37.00 | sorphin | heh |
| 02:37.05 | MonMotha | I know for a fact it can be done with less hardware, but this way makes programming it much easier, and it should run faster as it doesn't have to use the pport under software control, but rather uses EPP mode |
| 02:37.15 | sorphin | the damn protoboard i got in school could handle that :P |
| 02:37.28 | MonMotha | these are small proto boards, the size you find at radio shack |
| 02:37.35 | MonMotha | I need to get one of those giant ones |
| 02:37.49 | sorphin | it has 3 of those long ones |
| 02:37.51 | prpplague | i'm so sick of these freaking PMSN commercials i could puke |
| 02:37.59 | sorphin | and then a long 4 row one for power |
| 02:38.13 | prpplague | i need a super sized bug zapper that frellin moth |
| 02:39.16 | chouimat | PMSN??? |
| 02:39.36 | sorphin | personal msn prolly |
| 02:39.40 | sorphin | M$ crap |
| 02:39.55 | chouimat | ok ... |
| 02:43.45 | prpplague | PMS + MSN = PMSN |
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| 02:46.01 | sorphin | prpplague: you prolly like that chick.. "you wanna see my webcam?" :P |
| 02:49.14 | prpplague | sorphin: ohh yaaa. love that leopard skin stuff |
| 02:49.19 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather cyqb |
| 02:49.21 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Quebec, Que, Canada: It is -3 C (26 F), windspeed is 16.09 km/h, and visibility is 19.31 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 0200 UTC). |
| 02:50.18 | jacques | weatherbot: weather ksjc |
| 02:50.20 | weatherbot | Current conditions at San Jose, San Jose International Airport, CA, United States: It is 12 C (55 F), windspeed is 35.41 km/h, and visibility is 16.09 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 0153 UTC). |
| 02:51.15 | sorphin | prpplague: hehe, prolly from tx too |
| 02:51.40 | file | weatherbot: weather cyqm |
| 02:51.42 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Moncton, N. B., Canada: It is -2 C (28 F), windspeed is 8.05 km/h, and visibility is 1.61 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 0200 UTC). |
| 02:52.24 | prpplague | sorphin: no from Ok |
| 02:54.07 | prpplague | weatherbot: weatherbot bfe |
| 02:54.15 | prpplague | weatherbot: weather bfe |
| 02:54.16 | weatherbot | Failed to lookup weather at station BFE |
| 02:56.32 | chouimat | prpplague: I should probably put myself on one too ... |
| 02:57.48 | sorphin | prpplague: how you know? cuz the hair isn't tall enough? |
| 03:02.22 | kergoth | hey |
| 03:02.42 | sorphin | re mr (petty) larson(y) |
| 03:03.05 | kergoth | bah |
| 03:03.09 | kergoth | sup dan |
| 03:03.12 | kergoth | god today blew |
| 03:03.18 | sorphin | indeed |
| 03:03.37 | sorphin | kergoth: trying to figure the best way to tackle these screws |
| 03:03.51 | kergoth | ah, dct? |
| 03:04.55 | sorphin | ditto, me either |
| 03:05.12 | sorphin | was thinking taking some normal pliers and trying turning them |
| 03:06.09 | prpplague | kergoth: what type of screw? |
| 03:06.24 | sorphin | prpplague: very small, you know how a bottle cap looks? |
| 03:06.33 | sorphin | like on beer |
| 03:06.48 | sorphin | make one very small and make it the head of a screw :P |
| 03:07.07 | prpplague | sorphin: metric T screws |
| 03:07.13 | sorphin | nono |
| 03:07.19 | sorphin | hmm |
| 03:07.20 | prpplague | sorphin: tamper resistant ones with the pin in the middle |
| 03:07.23 | prpplague | sorphin: ? |
| 03:07.25 | sorphin | no |
| 03:07.34 | sorphin | just like a bottle cap |
| 03:07.38 | sorphin | convered top |
| 03:07.41 | sorphin | covered even |
| 03:07.50 | sorphin | and the ridges on the sides |
| 03:07.57 | prpplague | sorphin: ahh |
| 03:08.19 | sorphin | later i'll snap a macro shot after i eat ;) |
| 03:08.39 | chouimat | kergoth: http://partiquebecois.org/zones/www/ <--- they put that face in front of my office windows |
| 03:09.53 | sorphin | chouimat: good or bad? |
| 03:10.35 | chouimat | sorphin: bad |
| 03:11.06 | chouimat | sorphin: the pq is the parti that want the independance of Quebec |
| 03:11.19 | prpplague | argh, that frellin pmsn steve balmer pussy knat commercial is driving me nuts |
| 03:11.21 | sorphin | ah |
| 03:11.34 | sorphin | prpplague: maybe if i had a small enough bottle opener :P |
| 03:12.04 | prpplague | sorphin: visegrips? |
| 03:13.51 | sorphin | too big |
| 03:14.07 | sorphin | vise grips would be then |
| 03:14.29 | prpplague | i have a nice pair of needle nose visegrips |
| 03:15.25 | sorphin | the prob is, they aren't that tall of a head either |
| 03:16.11 | prpplague | sorphin: how were they inserted? special tool? |
| 03:16.58 | sorphin | hmm |
| 03:17.14 | sorphin | ok maybe a needle nose vise might work, from the side |
| 03:17.15 | sorphin | *might* |
| 03:21.59 | sorphin | hrm |
| 03:22.06 | sorphin | i can't get a grip on it |
| 03:31.14 | sorphin | kergoth: yo |
| 03:32.03 | kergoth | hey |
| 03:33.08 | sorphin | no luck here so far on the screws |
| 03:33.11 | sorphin | any thoughts? |
| 03:37.11 | kergoth | nothing immediately comes to mind |
| 03:37.46 | sorphin | one sec |
| 03:41.03 | sorphin | kergoth: [mbm] thinks it might the the top left driver in: http://www.dansdata.com/images/tools/bits500.jpg, top left of the pic. the prongy looking one.. |
| 03:41.07 | prpplague | can anyone pull up www.bidpay.com ? |
| 03:41.30 | sorphin | no |
| 03:41.37 | sorphin | unable to connect to host |
| 03:41.39 | sorphin | instantly |
| 03:41.45 | prpplague | ok thanks |
| 03:41.55 | prpplague | thats a western union site |
| 03:42.16 | sorphin | nod |
| 03:43.20 | prpplague | alot of sites down today |
| 03:47.52 | prpplague | sorphin: enough room at the top of the screw to use a fingernail file and cut a slot in the screw? |
| 03:48.05 | sorphin | got one semi loose |
| 03:48.16 | sorphin | w/ pliers.. wasn't easy |
| 03:48.44 | sorphin | prpplague: could if i had one |
| 03:49.06 | sorphin | been busy scratching the black back part by one of the screws :/ |
| 03:50.22 | chouimat | sorphin: ouch |
| 03:50.49 | prpplague | sorphin: can't believe you guys don't on "hacking tools" i.e. dremel fingernail-file |
| 03:51.24 | chouimat | prpplague: don't have one but know where to find one |
| 03:51.34 | sorphin | heh |
| 03:52.40 | jacques | yeah those are strange looking screws |
| 03:53.48 | prpplague | jacques: ya well, let me tell ya about strange looking screws...........lol |
| 03:53.56 | kergoth | lol |
| 03:54.14 | kergoth | i'm sure you've had more than your fair share |
| 03:54.15 | kergoth | :P |
| 03:54.38 | chouimat | hmmmm |
| 03:56.29 | prpplague | kergoth: to be honest, been to lots of nudie bars, but only been with me soon to be ex-wife |
| 03:56.41 | prpplague | s/me/my |
| 03:57.40 | kergoth | really? that's cool. not a lot of people for whom thats true nowadays |
| 04:00.24 | prpplague | kergoth: what i can i say, i was a real geek |
| 04:00.46 | prpplague | kergoth: married my first lay, lol |
| 04:01.15 | kergoth | heh |
| 04:01.17 | kergoth | i would have |
| 04:01.22 | kergoth | things didnt work out the way i wouldve liked though |
| 04:01.39 | sorphin | jacques: like baby bottle caps |
| 04:01.54 | sorphin | [mbm] mentioned he thought they might be on the SNES too? anyone got one to confirm? |
| 04:02.12 | kergoth | not anymore.. sold it off |
| 04:02.18 | [mbm] | i'd look at mine but it's in storage |
| 04:02.43 | jacques | apparently they are on there pretty tight? because it looks possible to get to at least som of them with pliers |
| 04:03.01 | jacques | i have a dremmel and a cutoff wheel tho if necessary |
| 04:04.18 | sorphin | finally |
| 04:04.22 | sorphin | got one out |
| 04:04.41 | sorphin | jacques: tight enough |
| 04:04.45 | jacques | :-\ |
| 04:05.17 | jacques | heading home to play with my dremmel |
| 04:05.19 | sorphin | scratched the paint enough getting this one |
| 04:06.39 | sorphin | 2 visible that actually hold the cover on |
| 04:06.45 | sorphin | prolly another under that rf bypass |
| 04:06.51 | sorphin | which has 2 philips screws |
| 04:07.22 | sorphin | reminds me of what they put on the back of one of our older cable boxes to allow it to have inputs for A/B instead of just the one it had |
| 04:10.26 | sorphin | man |
| 04:10.35 | sorphin | is there a screw on this thing that wasn't muscled in? |
| 04:11.01 | [mbm] | heh |
| 04:13.52 | sorphin | hrm |
| 04:13.57 | sorphin | this middle one isn't gonna be easy |
| 04:15.06 | [mbm] | can't you make your own bit just by taking a thin slotted screwdriver and cutting a notch in the blade? |
| 04:16.42 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:16.48 | sorphin | that's easier said than done :P |
| 04:17.04 | sorphin | actually the wire seperator (i.e. for ac cords) would turn it |
| 04:17.11 | sorphin | but i keep running into the damn rca |
| 04:17.11 | [mbm] | ah |
| 04:17.53 | [mbm] | least it's not one of those annoying triwing designs |
| 04:18.17 | sorphin | ? |
| 04:19.01 | [mbm] | looks like a philips screw but instead of a + there's only 3 going off in a Y shape |
| 04:19.09 | sorphin | ah |
| 04:19.25 | sorphin | see if there's atleast some kind of inside hole |
| 04:19.31 | sorphin | i can handle getting the thing out |
| 04:19.38 | sorphin | but since this only has outside |
| 04:19.47 | sorphin | makes it a bit tougher |
| 04:20.07 | [mbm] | nod. screw remover kits work on ones with the holes |
| 04:22.19 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:22.25 | sorphin | on the ones in my IOs |
| 04:22.34 | sorphin | i either could break the pins |
| 04:22.42 | sorphin | or wedge a small enough jewlers flathead in |
| 04:22.44 | sorphin | and turn it |
| 04:22.56 | [mbm] | torx? |
| 04:23.33 | sorphin | yeah |
| 04:23.52 | sorphin | torx w/ a pin in the middle aka security torx |
| 04:24.13 | [mbm] | ah, pita |
| 04:24.37 | sorphin | nod |
| 04:24.51 | [mbm] | lotta places selling the security screwdriver bits for < $10 |
| 04:25.33 | prpplague | sorphin: i thought you said it wasn't a T screw |
| 04:25.40 | sorphin | prpplague: it's not |
| 04:25.49 | sorphin | prpplague: i was telling him about the ones in the iopener :P |
| 04:25.56 | prpplague | sorphin: ohh |
| 04:26.13 | sorphin | prpplague: ive seen all sorts of T screws |
| 04:26.21 | sorphin | i've *never* seen this kind before |
| 04:26.48 | chouimat | sorphin: they look like what? |
| 04:27.13 | sorphin | mini bottle cap |
| 04:27.19 | [mbm] | chouimat: it's a security screw, looks like a bottle cap; same shit they use on the snes cartridges |
| 04:27.19 | sorphin | set on top of a small washer |
| 04:28.05 | chouimat | [mbm]: ok like te weird one on the intellivision cartridges ... |
| 04:28.07 | [mbm] | http://www.play-asia.com/paos-1a-005c3000.html/&size=350&index=001 |
| 04:29.44 | sorphin | grr |
| 04:29.53 | sorphin | more paint gone around this one :P |
| 04:30.05 | [mbm] | nobody is gonna look at the back ;) |
| 04:30.19 | sorphin | heh |
| 04:30.43 | sorphin | these damn things aren't even that long |
| 04:30.51 | sorphin | but threaded really tight |
| 04:30.57 | [mbm] | heh |
| 04:31.36 | sorphin | #2 out |
| 04:35.37 | sorphin | grr |
| 04:36.01 | sorphin | there's gotta be a third.. somewhere.. |
| 04:36.17 | sorphin | i screwed the nuts on the rf connectors and took out the philips screws |
| 04:36.23 | sorphin | but the bypass isn't budging |
| 04:36.56 | [mbm] | no rca connectors screwed to the back? |
| 04:37.18 | sorphin | yeah, but not touching the cover itself |
| 04:37.22 | sorphin | this is just the cover |
| 04:37.30 | sorphin | the rf bypass block is covering part of it |
| 04:38.05 | sorphin | heh, so much for just the back :P a small nick near the front top on the side |
| 04:38.06 | sorphin | :P |
| 04:38.52 | sorphin | ah there we go |
| 04:38.58 | sorphin | got the bypass to budge |
| 04:39.00 | sorphin | it's just tight too |
| 04:39.24 | sorphin | just like the thing i was talking about on our old cable box |
| 04:39.36 | sorphin | it slides over 4 connectors on the back of the box itself |
| 04:39.47 | sorphin | 2 RF ins |
| 04:39.50 | sorphin | to tv/vcr |
| 04:39.54 | sorphin | and RPT out |
| 04:40.51 | sorphin | and this last one is easier to get going |
| 04:42.57 | sorphin | heh, so i undid the nuts for the outside rf conns for nothing, only needed the philips screws.. ah well... just more scratches :P |
| 04:50.16 | chouimat | sorphin: how many screws? |
| 04:53.30 | fontenot | dremmel is only way to go |
| 04:53.37 | fontenot | took me about 7 minutes |
| 04:53.58 | fontenot | damn everything is tiny in here |
| 04:54.12 | fontenot | the "ide" connector looks smaller than usual |
| 04:57.09 | fontenot | ah looks like a laptop connectrot maybe - 44pin |
| 04:57.13 | fontenot | connector |
| 05:12.41 | GPSFan | sorphin: just got back... looks like you are not having fun opening up the dct5000. |
| 05:12.42 | [mbm] | in a cablebox? |
| 05:15.25 | fontenot | [mbm]: yes the 44pin connector is in a dct5000 |
| 05:15.35 | [mbm] | just wondering why |
| 05:15.53 | GPSFan | fontenot: I traced out the power & gnd connections of that connector and they match what a laptop drive should be. |
| 05:16.18 | chouimat | GPSFan: ide? |
| 05:16.21 | fontenot | GPSFan: have I told you that you rock? |
| 05:16.58 | GPSFan | chouimat: I think so, the ALI southbridge has it built in as well as the usb, serials, paralled. |
| 05:18.30 | chouimat | ok |
| 05:18.37 | GPSFan | the 44 pin connectror shell is made of SAMTEC connectors which are narrower than normal idc type connectors. but a little work with a pair of cutters and a standard laptop idc connector fits. |
| 05:18.49 | GPSFan | s/of/for |
| 05:19.37 | fontenot | GPSFan: what's the pci-net chip or whatever it's called - near the ali |
| 05:20.06 | GPSFan | the amd 79c790? ehternet. |
| 05:21.12 | fontenot | what about the really old tech looking super long socketed chip near the front ? |
| 05:21.24 | chouimat|Zzzz | night |
| 05:21.37 | GPSFan | fontenot: I've got most of the major chips identified, and links to their datasheets on the wiki: http://elinux.org/wiki/DCT5000 |
| 05:21.56 | GPSFan | as well as the pinnout of the jtag connector. |
| 05:22.21 | fontenot | yeah I saw that - nice - I dont think I have a connector that small for the jtag tho |
| 05:23.02 | GPSFan | that is a macronis EPROM (I think) it's their logo, but they make custom asic's also. |
| 05:23.16 | GPSFan | that's Macronix... |
| 05:23.28 | fontenot | looks really out of place |
| 05:23.40 | fontenot | hmm no data sheets on the processor ? :-\ |
| 05:24.01 | chouimat|Zzzz | fontenot: look at the end of the page I found them |
| 05:24.06 | GPSFan | yes, tim put that link in and I didn't cahnge it. |
| 05:24.30 | fontenot | d`oh I am going blind |
| 05:24.40 | GPSFan | the 5432 is the cpu, the 5476 is the "northbridge" |
| 05:25.11 | fontenot | did you guys figure out how much ram is onboard? the video chip has its own ram which is nice |
| 05:25.12 | chouimat|Zzzz | GPSFan: what did you use for the jtag connector? actualy I found the cpu doc for tim but I don't care about the credit |
| 05:25.14 | GPSFan | there isn't a datasheet for the 5476, but there is for the 5477 which looks to be it's replacement. |
| 05:26.06 | GPSFan | chouimat|Zzzz: I had a few around form a project I did with a cerfcube. got them as samples from Samtec. |
| 05:27.11 | chouimat|Zzzz | GPSFan:ok... the only 10 pin I have is from a serial port ... |
| 05:27.19 | MonMotha | is it just me or is elinux.org down? |
| 05:28.05 | GPSFan | MonMotha: works for me. |
| 05:28.08 | fontenot | wfm |
| 05:28.34 | MonMotha | dies at 66.35.212.174 for me |
| 05:29.20 | MonMotha | oh well, I need to go to bed anyway |
| 05:29.26 | MonMotha | I'll look at it tomorrow |
| 05:29.31 | MonMotha | I don't even have my DCT5000 yet |
| 05:30.38 | GPSFan | who is good at porting jflash? and has a dct5000 |
| 05:30.48 | sorphin | chouimat|Zzzz: 3 |
| 05:31.17 | sorphin | GPSFan: evening |
| 05:31.36 | GPSFan | hi dan, get all the wierd screws out yet? |
| 05:32.04 | sorphin | doing that 3rd one now.. was on the phone w/ sarah |
| 05:32.13 | sorphin | sneaky of them hiding it under taht rf bypass |
| 05:32.47 | fontenot | is tim moving now? |
| 05:33.12 | sorphin | fontenot: was this weekend |
| 05:33.36 | fontenot | hmm hope it all went well |
| 05:36.02 | sorphin | finally |
| 05:37.05 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:37.13 | sorphin | they don't heatsink their 5432 |
| 05:37.15 | sorphin | like tivo did |
| 05:37.29 | fontenot | looks like 32MB onboard |
| 05:37.33 | GPSFan | sorphin: it just gets warm to the touch with the cover off. |
| 05:37.53 | sorphin | GPSFan: must not be running at 200 |
| 05:37.56 | fontenot | and I believe they claim they can take at least a 64MB SODIMM |
| 05:38.07 | GPSFan | sorphin: 167. |
| 05:38.08 | sorphin | hmm |
| 05:38.18 | sorphin | i don't think tim has the 7010 on his page does he? |
| 05:38.28 | sorphin | thought i only saw him mention the QAMlinks |
| 05:39.08 | fontenot | I have seen claims of 90 and 160MB which would roughly equate to 64 and 128MB SODIMMs |
| 05:39.54 | GPSFan | fontenot: the ram chips are fairly small, and I thein there is only 8Mbytes onboard. |
| 05:40.16 | sorphin | umm |
| 05:40.33 | sorphin | i dunno |
| 05:40.40 | sorphin | hmm |
| 05:40.43 | fontenot | GPSFan: the pdf says 64Mbit |
| 05:41.38 | GPSFan | the ram chips are 2M x 8bit..... oops mised the 4 bank part!!! so that means 32M. yea! |
| 05:41.50 | fontenot | yay |
| 05:41.53 | sorphin | heh |
| 05:42.07 | sorphin | fyi |
| 05:42.15 | sorphin | M2V64S30 |
| 05:42.21 | sorphin | 64 Mbits |
| 05:42.29 | sorphin | 8M x 8 |
| 05:42.35 | sorphin | right here on a sheet |
| 05:42.36 | sorphin | :) |
| 05:42.59 | fontenot | yeah I just looked at the first line of the pdf and multiplied and divided |
| 05:43.17 | GPSFan | sorphin: indeed, if it had been a snake it would have bitten me. ;>) |
| 05:43.21 | sorphin | i just googled for the part # |
| 05:43.23 | sorphin | :P |
| 05:43.27 | sorphin | and found 2 pdfs |
| 05:43.45 | sorphin | and it said right there plain as day what i pasted |
| 05:43.53 | fontenot | 32MB native not too shabby |
| 05:43.56 | GPSFan | sorphin: look at the wiki, the kinkd are there. |
| 05:44.02 | GPSFan | links.. |
| 05:44.08 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:44.08 | fontenot | not even counting the video ram |
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| 05:44.37 | sorphin | ha |
| 05:44.38 | sorphin | i was right |
| 05:44.43 | sorphin | tim missed the most obvious chip :P |
| 05:44.54 | fontenot | ? |
| 05:44.55 | sorphin | taht 7010 right smack in the middle |
| 05:44.57 | GPSFan | ? |
| 05:44.59 | sorphin | :P |
| 05:45.04 | sorphin | not even on the wiki |
| 05:45.05 | GPSFan | which is? |
| 05:45.21 | sorphin | some broadcom device |
| 05:45.24 | sorphin | lemme check |
| 05:45.45 | GPSFan | ah, someone who knows broadcom chips. :) |
| 05:45.47 | sorphin | BCM7010 SET-TOP BOX DECODER |
| 05:45.58 | sorphin | sjhill would know more about it |
| 05:46.04 | sorphin | being an ex bcm'er |
| 05:46.18 | sorphin | http://www.broadcom.com/products/7010.html |
| 05:46.28 | sorphin | mpeg2 decoder |
| 05:46.34 | sorphin | and ac3 |
| 05:47.12 | sorphin | ok,. how do you add to the wiki? :P |
| 05:47.24 | fontenot | hit the edit link |
| 05:47.26 | sorphin | k |
| 05:47.36 | sorphin | cool |
| 05:47.42 | GPSFan | just did |
| 05:47.53 | sorphin | bah :P |
| 05:48.00 | GPSFan | it and a link to the pdf are there now. |
| 05:48.17 | fontenot | just the other day I noticed broadcom has a huge building right near where I work |
| 05:48.23 | sorphin | steve prolly has the REAL pdf :P |
| 05:48.29 | sorphin | ;) |
| 05:48.49 | GPSFan | yeah they just let us peons have 2 page marketing junk. |
| 05:49.03 | sorphin | hmm |
| 05:49.15 | sorphin | GPSFan: see taht lil push switch on the front of the MB ? |
| 05:49.20 | sorphin | next to the 2 ribbons |
| 05:49.46 | GPSFan | sorphin: reset. |
| 05:49.55 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:50.50 | sorphin | i love how much of a hack their serial port is |
| 05:50.56 | sorphin | looks like something i'd do :P |
| 05:51.01 | fontenot | 3 wires ? |
| 05:51.04 | GPSFan | sorphin: plug it in, and play with the buttons, nothing comes out any of the video. |
| 05:51.04 | sorphin | yup |
| 05:51.12 | sorphin | GPSFan: no surprise |
| 05:51.31 | GPSFan | 2 serial ports from the ALI southbridge. |
| 05:51.40 | sorphin | yeah |
| 05:51.48 | sorphin | both have mb connectors |
| 05:51.56 | GPSFan | the one out the back is at 38400. |
| 05:52.02 | sorphin | GPSFan: i just meant how they're running it to the back |
| 05:52.04 | sorphin | is a hack :P |
| 05:52.43 | GPSFan | yeah is sure is, there was a modem option and I think they did the serial port hack for ease of development. |
| 05:53.35 | sorphin | nod |
| 05:53.37 | sorphin | hmm |
| 05:53.49 | sorphin | trying to look up the video mem chips |
| 05:53.53 | sorphin | can't find them |
| 05:54.07 | sorphin | VG3616161~BT |
| 05:54.12 | sorphin | minus that ~ |
| 05:54.15 | sorphin | damn typo |
| 05:54.38 | GPSFan | hold the info and menu buttons for 5-seconds or so while powering on, the display will say boot. |
| 05:55.07 | sorphin | min's sitting on my lap atm :P |
| 05:55.10 | sorphin | mine's even |
| 05:55.18 | GPSFan | sorphin: 3 different types of flash 2 intel 1 amd |
| 05:55.22 | sorphin | still scanning the board |
| 05:55.32 | sorphin | yeah |
| 05:55.43 | sorphin | 2 intels of one kind, one of another and the amd |
| 05:55.53 | sorphin | another physically big ram chip |
| 05:56.00 | sorphin | next to that long chip |
| 05:56.01 | GPSFan | yep. |
| 05:56.04 | sorphin | nother VG |
| 05:56.11 | sorphin | might be cache |
| 05:56.12 | fontenot | that long chip is so ugly |
| 05:56.27 | GPSFan | this thing has more types of ram... |
| 05:56.48 | sorphin | hehe |
| 05:56.49 | sorphin | yeah |
| 05:56.57 | sorphin | i can't find the VG chips at all |
| 05:57.11 | sorphin | lemme check that big j lead dip one |
| 05:57.38 | sorphin | nope |
| 05:58.21 | sorphin | the 5100 and 5200 are prolly this same board |
| 05:58.36 | sorphin | just more w/ a HD and a few less missing chips :P |
| 05:59.44 | GPSFan | sorphin: the 5000 was probably the development platform for the rest of the series, I'd bet that you are right. |
| 05:59.59 | sorphin | so that 44 pinner is a HDD |
| 06:00.18 | sorphin | and that lil jtag header is prolly gone in the 5100+ |
| 06:00.26 | GPSFan | sorphin: the pwr & gnd pins check out, and the ALI has ide out. |
| 06:00.39 | sorphin | all the flash chips have extra pads for longer chips |
| 06:01.11 | sorphin | GPSFan: figured out where that 2nd ribbon goes? |
| 06:01.18 | sorphin | the 24 pinner |
| 06:01.22 | sorphin | that disappears under the board |
| 06:01.23 | GPSFan | the land patterns for the jtag might still be there but they probably got rid of the Mictor like connectors from the cpu bus. |
| 06:01.30 | sorphin | the pcmcia? |
| 06:01.37 | GPSFan | sorphin: yep. |
| 06:01.50 | sorphin | kinda neat |
| 06:01.56 | sorphin | too bad we couldn't keep tim at $10 ;) |
| 06:01.57 | GPSFan | not enough pins, so it probably isn't pcmcia. |
| 06:02.03 | sorphin | nod |
| 06:02.07 | sorphin | in other words |
| 06:02.08 | sorphin | like cisco |
| 06:02.10 | GPSFan | sorphin: that was a bummer. |
| 06:02.11 | sorphin | used the slot |
| 06:02.26 | sorphin | but not the electrical pinout |
| 06:02.32 | GPSFan | yep. |
| 06:02.58 | sorphin | wonder what j601 is for |
| 06:04.10 | GPSFan | sorphin: and j6, j8, j9... |
| 06:04.17 | sorphin | yeah |
| 06:04.31 | sorphin | well, j601 is by the crystal chip, just a single row |
| 06:04.38 | sorphin | 10 pins |
| 06:05.15 | GPSFan | and what other signals come out j7, obviously a test connnector of sorts. |
| 06:05.30 | sorphin | yeah |
| 06:05.46 | sorphin | everything on that one side |
| 06:05.50 | sorphin | goes toward the 5432 |
| 06:06.38 | GPSFan | yep, have to look at hte pinnout of the cpu and trace them out. |
| 06:07.33 | sorphin | j5's leads hit the rage XL |
| 06:08.01 | sorphin | and J4's the 5432 also |
| 06:08.15 | sorphin | J1 too |
| 06:09.35 | GPSFan | J4 and J1 are high speed integral ground plane connectors, Mictor like, maybe Samtec. probably for logic analyzer connection to the cpu bus. |
| 06:09.45 | sorphin | yeah |
| 06:10.36 | fontenot | sorphin: how much ram in a series2 tivo? |
| 06:10.45 | GPSFan | sorphin: you see the sony chip? it's 1394. |
| 06:11.04 | sorphin | fontenot: 32M |
| 06:11.12 | sorphin | GPSFan: yeah, i saw the conns :) |
| 06:11.24 | sorphin | could hook these suckers up to giga (since it has a firewire card) |
| 06:11.39 | fontenot | sorphin: so these dct5000's are similar spec as far as proc and ram but cpu running slightly slower ? |
| 06:11.50 | fontenot | and can upgrade ram in these |
| 06:11.56 | sorphin | fontenot: yeah |
| 06:12.18 | sorphin | and the S2 tivo has a KFir2 encoder |
| 06:12.28 | sorphin | and a 7030 decoder |
| 06:12.36 | sorphin | reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeally nice chip |
| 06:12.39 | fontenot | ah |
| 06:13.01 | sorphin | does more stuff than the 7010 |
| 06:13.57 | sorphin | the sheer size of these things just kills me |
| 06:14.08 | sorphin | wider than any of my tivos :P |
| 06:14.18 | fontenot | yeah me too they are big |
| 06:14.24 | sorphin | ok |
| 06:14.26 | sorphin | maybe not |
| 06:14.31 | sorphin | same width as my S1s |
| 06:14.40 | sorphin | but only cuz of that psu |
| 06:14.46 | GPSFan | so what is a super BAP BCM? |
| 06:15.28 | sorphin | where? |
| 06:15.57 | GPSFan | sorphin: it's the seperate board with a piece of coax and the flat flex cable. |
| 06:16.11 | GPSFan | right above the smart card slot. |
| 06:16.18 | sorphin | ah |
| 06:16.23 | sorphin | hold |
| 06:16.55 | sorphin | ROTFL |
| 06:17.00 | sorphin | this thing has a WDC chip on it :P |
| 06:17.04 | sorphin | from 1984 |
| 06:17.21 | fontenot | ? |
| 06:17.40 | sorphin | western digital :P |
| 06:17.57 | GPSFan | no, it has a date of 4/29/99 though. |
| 06:19.51 | sorphin | btw |
| 06:19.57 | sorphin | i bet i know why they're running at 167 :P |
| 06:20.22 | sorphin | because in the 1st rev of the series 2 running at 200mhz |
| 06:20.29 | sorphin | RF chan 27 gets noise |
| 06:20.37 | fontenot | ack |
| 06:20.39 | sorphin | so the next rev |
| 06:20.44 | sorphin | they downclocked some |
| 06:21.07 | fontenot | they should do spread spectrum like in PC bios |
| 06:22.51 | sorphin | heh |
| 06:23.01 | sorphin | same diff |
| 06:23.10 | sorphin | SS drops cpu performance |
| 06:28.08 | GPSFan | nite all, off to zzzz. |
| 06:28.14 | sorphin | cya |
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| 07:24.04 | sorphin | weird |
| 07:24.10 | sorphin | E611 |
| 07:24.13 | sorphin | E602 |
| 07:24.16 | sorphin | D1 |
| 07:24.18 | sorphin | Hunt |
| 07:24.44 | sorphin | Fr 1, Hunt, Fr 2, and repeats till Fr 8, then back to E611 |
| 07:53.29 | sorphin | heh, i hooked up my cable to it, then it decided to just stick to FR 1 (frequency 1), hunt, and that's it back and forth.. prolly cuz i don't have digital cable :P |
| 08:28.07 | fontenot | hmm I have digital cable |
| 08:28.24 | fontenot | i wonder what it would do and how long before they are shutting down my service and knocking on my door |
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| 11:27.03 | jekk | how can i register an interrupt handler function ??? |
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| 13:52.01 | sorphin | heh, he doesn't give up :P |
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| 15:07.54 | sieve | good morning everyone |
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| 15:26.09 | CosmicPenguin | hey, hey! |
| 15:26.24 | prpplague | ho ho |
| 15:26.30 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hey crack baby |
| 15:26.33 | Morn | it's fat albert (sorry, reminded me of "Hey, hey, hey!!!") |
| 15:26.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: got a sec for some questions? |
| 15:30.27 | prpplague | ibot: wbpal |
| 15:30.28 | | prpplague: no idea |
| 15:30.32 | prpplague | ibot: webpal |
| 15:30.32 | | webpal is, like, a set top box appliance that can run Linux. see http://webpal.bigbrd.com/, or http://www.softwareandstuff.com/h_misc_webpal.html, or only $13 + shipping!, or schematics are available from: http://www.geocities.com/webpalstuff/ |
| 15:30.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: shoot |
| 15:31.45 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok we have all these input widgets, but no ouput widgets |
| 15:32.04 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i.e. text fields or number calculation fields |
| 15:32.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so true |
| 15:32.34 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but we can add them easily |
| 15:32.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what if you needed a field answered with a formula like $qty*$unitcost ? |
| 15:32.49 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: assuming of course, that we can have a simple set of rules regarding the output widgets |
| 15:33.05 | CosmicPenguin | I don't want to have to write a parser for polynomial expresssions or any crap like that |
| 15:33.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: simple + - * / would be fine |
| 15:33.44 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: also age calculation |
| 15:34.22 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my point being, its not an open book - but there are things we can do, within reason |
| 15:34.28 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: would something like (a+b)/c be acceptable? |
| 15:36.34 | mallum | hello CosmicPenguin, prpplague |
| 15:37.01 | prpplague | mallum: morning |
| 15:37.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: or would we be limited to a single function per field? |
| 15:38.01 | prpplague | is anyone still in need of webpals? |
| 15:38.14 | mallum | prpplague: for 13$ Id get one |
| 15:38.23 | mallum | prpplague: I seem to have totally missed them |
| 15:38.51 | prpplague | mallum: i've got one for you and ade already set aside, just haven't had time to send them |
| 15:39.21 | mallum | prpplague: ah cool |
| 15:39.38 | mallum | prpplague: looks like Linux only just about runs on them, or is that info out of date ? |
| 15:42.53 | prpplague | mallum: ya there has been some progress, but all the elinux folks have been with all the job switching, personal problems, and just plain incompatence (i.e.sorphin), not much has changed |
| 15:43.05 | prpplague | s/been/been busy |
| 15:43.20 | prpplague | sorphin: jk |
| 15:43.39 | chouimat | morning |
| 15:43.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hmmm...... |
| 15:44.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: hmmm? |
| 15:44.18 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you're threating to push this whole project way beyond lunch |
| 15:44.20 | CosmicPenguin | :) |
| 15:44.44 | mallum | prpplague: ah np. they look alot of fun though |
| 15:46.34 | mallum | kergoth`bbl: ping |
| 15:48.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ? |
| 15:49.07 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: j/k |
| 15:49.26 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: its been a long time since I've done any expression parsing |
| 15:49.32 | CosmicPenguin | like, since 7th grade |
| 15:49.32 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 15:49.33 | chouimat | hi mallum CosmicPenguin prpplague |
| 15:49.37 | prpplague | chouimat: morning |
| 15:49.41 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: hey |
| 15:50.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: its just that i talk to an inventory girls at a convenience store this morning and she showed my the form she was using |
| 15:50.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: K. I can do it for you... :) |
| 15:51.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but don't tell Scott. He thinks I am working on the sync |
| 15:51.05 | mallum | hey chouimat |
| 15:51.24 | chouimat | first coffee then talking |
| 15:51.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: no, i was just asking, i don't want you to work on it right away |
| 15:51.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: unless it can be included in the bug fix portion i still owe you for |
| 15:52.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no charge |
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| 15:54.01 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ok, put it on the list then |
| 15:54.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: simple calcs and a text out widget command should round out what we have now perfectly |
| 15:54.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: cool |
| 15:55.35 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i've made up some templates for the test.list file |
| 15:55.58 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: was able to do about 99% of her form in a just a couple of minutes |
| 15:55.58 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: nice. I want to automate that process as much as possible |
| 15:56.20 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I bet you did... :-) |
| 15:56.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: her cigarette inventory usually take an hour to do, she did the whole thing in less than 10 |
| 15:56.41 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ha ha |
| 15:57.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: simple sync and we are in biz |
| 15:57.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: what is your overall impression of the concept? do you think there is anything else out there that does this? |
| 15:57.48 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: no |
| 15:58.11 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i think if it was GPL'd it would be the talk of the town |
| 15:58.16 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: or rather - let me qualify that. For stuff like this, there is nothingelse out there |
| 15:58.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but for inventory, you are going to be hard pressed to come up against companies like symbol |
| 15:58.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: nope |
| 15:58.47 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: symbol's stuff sucks compared to this |
| 15:59.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I went and did my wedding registry last night (http://www.jordanandstacee.com) |
| 15:59.14 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: and we used two different symbol devices to scan the bar codes |
| 15:59.24 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it was way easy - I don't know if we can compete with that |
| 15:59.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya the pdt-6800 and 3400 series |
| 15:59.46 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ya thats a pre-made package, something like $50k |
| 15:59.57 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: we used it in a store in nassau |
| 16:00.41 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: it would be nice if we could stick our app on one of those AML devices |
| 16:01.00 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but for surveys we are king |
| 16:01.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: besides, the cost of a Z vs. symbol is huge |
| 16:01.05 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: already done |
| 16:01.32 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: my fiance did survey work for the Sundance Film Festival this year - they still do pen and paper |
| 16:02.00 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: cool |
| 16:02.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: part of her assignment (she got class credit) was to enter alll the suveys by hand into Excel |
| 16:02.09 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: eww |
| 16:02.14 | chouimat | urk! |
| 16:02.17 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: you could rent them a few hundred Z's and they could do the same job in half the time |
| 16:02.24 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: i would have at least used some scantrons |
| 16:02.43 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: heh - maybe robert redford is too cheap |
| 16:02.57 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: anyway, there were lots of text fields - not exactly scantron related |
| 16:03.07 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: heck, clara does scantron readings, it would have been easy to do that |
| 16:03.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:03.14 | chouimat | why automatise a system that seem to work wells |
| 16:03.39 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: what system? Getting a bunch of college students to work for free? |
| 16:03.43 | CosmicPenguin | Thats not a good system |
| 16:03.50 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 16:04.13 | CosmicPenguin | Wise man say: He who uses cheap college labor gets what he paid for |
| 16:04.37 | CosmicPenguin | But I have pin number, so that makes it better.... ;) |
| 16:04.39 | prpplague | i'm gonna see about ordering for webpals, anyone wanting one please email me dave123@abcsinc.com with webpal as the subject |
| 16:05.03 | chouimat | prpplague: you have found more? |
| 16:05.15 | prpplague | http://www.liquidations.com/webpals.html |
| 16:05.26 | prpplague | http://www.liquidations.com/webpals.htm |
| 16:05.29 | prpplague | no l |
| 16:06.20 | chouimat | prpplague: ok |
| 16:12.14 | CosmicPenguin | Does everyone remember when operations only had one name? |
| 16:12.27 | CosmicPenguin | Operation Delta, Operation Freedom, etc? |
| 16:12.35 | CosmicPenguin | When did we start having two word operations? |
| 16:12.37 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not me |
| 16:12.44 | sjhill | yeah.....shoot, slap, kill, mame....those were the good ole' days |
| 16:13.13 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: from my army training i was taught that the two letter codes were started in korea |
| 16:13.30 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ahhh.... |
| 16:13.53 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: Operation Overlord? |
| 16:14.04 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: exactly |
| 16:14.25 | CosmicPenguin | How did we get from Operation Overloard to Operation "I'm gonna tell Mom"? |
| 16:14.48 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: general they are two letter codes for the operation, they just choose words to go with it |
| 16:14.53 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: lack of imagination from the GQG head? |
| 16:15.14 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: like operation Enduring Freedom is actually opcode-EF in the documetns |
| 16:16.27 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I see |
| 16:16.35 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: they can't reuse opcodes then? |
| 16:16.49 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: generally no |
| 16:16.55 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: And I assume the letters are chosen so as not be confusing |
| 16:17.11 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: like operation "Probably Quiet" |
| 16:17.27 | CosmicPenguin | I assume there are morse code concerns and radio issues there too |
| 16:17.37 | CosmicPenguin | "Did you say P or T?" |
| 16:17.51 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: well we use the radio call signs for that |
| 16:18.03 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: P=papa T=tango |
| 16:18.51 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: So we've got it covered. This is why I'm in Utah and not in Turkey at this point in time |
| 16:19.04 | CosmicPenguin | * and the whole country sighs a sigh of relief * |
| 16:19.18 | chouimat | hehe |
| 16:19.33 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: lol, ya well, most of the military techniques of the modern world were developed during the american civil war |
| 16:20.26 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: iirc, more men died at gettysburg than all of wwii |
| 16:21.52 | prpplague | http://www.phil.muni.cz/~vndrzl/amstudies/civilwar_stats.htm |
| 16:24.29 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: yep - I've studied the civil war at length |
| 16:24.29 | prpplague | has anyone here had a product stolen from them? |
| 16:24.45 | chouimat | prpplague: huh? |
| 16:25.02 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I used to do quite a bit of role playing on the old Civl War games |
| 16:25.04 | prpplague | chouimat: a product concept |
| 16:25.10 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: ahh |
| 16:25.20 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: been to vicksburg? |
| 16:25.26 | chouimat | prpplague: yea ... but they failed so ... |
| 16:25.45 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: hardly - I want to tour the battlefields some day |
| 16:26.03 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: but you can count the number of times I have actually been east of the Mississippi and not in an airport on one hand |
| 16:26.27 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: if you go to vicksburg, a word of warning, don't stay out on the battlefield after dark :) |
| 16:26.33 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: ghostly? |
| 16:26.38 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: very |
| 16:27.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: I assume the others are similar? Gettsyburg must be especially disturbed |
| 16:27.16 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: not been to gettysburg, but i'd like to |
| 16:27.21 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: me too |
| 16:27.44 | prpplague | man i need to be working on my thin client crap...... |
| 16:31.11 | CosmicPenguin | Does the Z have userland calibration or the kernel crap? |
| 16:31.20 | CosmicPenguin | does the X use *gasp* tslib? |
| 16:31.52 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: iirc kergoth has implemented the tslib stuff in the kernel for the z |
| 16:32.04 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: so it *is* kernel based? |
| 16:32.08 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: can we turn it off? |
| 16:32.19 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: my original tinyx used the kdrive build so it was strickly tinyx based |
| 16:32.34 | prpplague | CosmicPenguin: that would be a question for kergoth |
| 16:39.16 | sorphin | good lord |
| 16:39.23 | chouimat | hi sorphin |
| 16:39.36 | sorphin | you 2 talk more than the director i just had to spend 1.75 hours listening to who never took a break ;) |
| 16:40.18 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: damn straighit |
| 16:40.47 | sorphin | prpplague: btw.. stick that incompetence comment :P |
| 16:41.12 | chouimat | sorphin: boring speach? |
| 16:41.21 | sorphin | yes, and useless to me |
| 16:41.34 | sorphin | cuz i don't deal with customers like the rest of hte group does :P |
| 16:41.40 | prpplague | sorphin: you know i was jk'n |
| 16:42.44 | sorphin | my breakfast now, is pink lemonade, because of that fucker, i missed the cafeteria, and lunch costs more $ than i even have right now :P |
| 16:43.03 | sorphin | AND i had to wear biz casual today, (as did the rest of us) for this useless director :P |
| 16:43.10 | sorphin | ah yes, the start of a god day |
| 16:43.12 | sorphin | good |
| 16:43.15 | chouimat | sorphin: ouch |
| 16:43.15 | sorphin | not |
| 16:44.41 | prpplague | sorphin: fun all the way around :] |
| 16:51.23 | sorphin | prpplague: the DCT5k was interesting to look at last night.. didn't react to my cable at all, except went to hunting on only F1 instead of 1-8 like it normally does |
| 16:51.38 | sorphin | but considering it was 2am :P |
| 16:54.09 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather cyqb |
| 16:54.11 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Quebec, Que, Canada: It is 0 C (32 F), windspeed is 25.75 km/h, and visibility is 48.28 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1500 UTC). |
| 16:54.19 | sorphin | weatherbot: weather kstl |
| 16:54.21 | weatherbot | Current conditions at St. Louis, Lambert-St. Louis International Airport, MO, United States: It is 17 C (63 F), windspeed is 9.66 km/h, and visibility is 11.27 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1553 UTC). |
| 16:54.31 | sorphin | glad i'm not in Que ;) |
| 16:54.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you mean out of the channel? |
| 16:54.58 | chouimat | sorphin: that better than some week ago (-25C) |
| 16:55.18 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o sorphin] by ChanServ |
| 16:55.25 | CosmicPenguin | uh-oh |
| 16:55.32 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o CosmicPenguin] by sorphin |
| 16:55.38 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: knock yourself out ;) |
| 16:55.43 | *** mode/#eLinux [-o sorphin] by sorphin |
| 16:55.53 | *** mode/#eLinux [-o CosmicPenguin] by CosmicPenguin |
| 16:56.03 | sorphin | bah |
| 16:56.15 | CosmicPenguin | I don't want that kind of responsiblity - I like just being a peon |
| 16:56.25 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: lol |
| 16:57.35 | CosmicPenguin | So, has everyone filled out their brackets yet? |
| 16:57.43 | prpplague | chouimat: where do you guys look up the weather stations? |
| 16:57.56 | prpplague | weatherbot: weather shreveport,la |
| 16:57.58 | weatherbot | Failed to lookup weather at station SHREVEPORT,LA |
| 16:58.18 | sorphin | prpplague: um.. www.airnav.com |
| 16:58.52 | sorphin | based on hte airport codes |
| 16:59.07 | chouimat | prpplague: noaa.gov |
| 16:59.25 | sorphin | weatherbot: weather KDTN |
| 16:59.26 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Shreveport, Shreveport Downtown Airport, LA, United States: It is 17 C (63 F), windspeed is 12.87 km/h, and visibility is 16.09 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1553 UTC). |
| 16:59.36 | sorphin | weatherbot: weather KSHV |
| 16:59.37 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Shreveport, Shreveport Regional Airport, LA, United States: It is 16 C (62 F), windspeed is 16.09 km/h, and visibility is 8.05 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1556 UTC). |
| 16:59.41 | sorphin | prpplague: :) |
| 17:00.31 | sorphin | chouimat: airport lookup works nicely too and doesn't take but 2 seconds ;) |
| 17:00.34 | CosmicPenguin | This damn war!!!! |
| 17:00.44 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: shall we ship you over? |
| 17:00.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: then you can pixilate them |
| 17:00.55 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: now they are thinking about postponing the NCAA tourney |
| 17:01.11 | sorphin | cuz of this useless war? |
| 17:01.13 | chouimat | sorphin: didn't know about that one |
| 17:01.13 | sorphin | oh brother |
| 17:01.16 | CosmicPenguin | Thats where I draw the line - I want basketball dammit! |
| 17:01.31 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather LSGG |
| 17:01.33 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Geneve-Cointrin, Switzerland: It is 12 C (55 F), windspeed is 16.09 km/h, and visibility is 11.27 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1520 UTC). |
| 17:01.34 | kergoth`bbl | mallum: pong |
| 17:01.41 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: plus, I will be on Vegas on the 7th of April - which is supposed to be the night of the championship game |
| 17:01.52 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:02.07 | CosmicPenguin | grrr... |
| 17:02.18 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: tell me a story about the Z calibration - is it kernel based or userland based? |
| 17:02.21 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's why yo uneed a tivo ;) |
| 17:02.35 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: userland. technically its driver has an interface for it, but its not utilized. |
| 17:02.45 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: its not that - I want to be in Vegas during a major sporting event! |
| 17:02.46 | chouimat | sorphin: http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/NZSP.html <--- I'm gald to not be there |
| 17:02.53 | CosmicPenguin | kergoth: thats the way it should be, IRRC |
| 17:02.59 | CosmicPenguin | or rather, IMHO |
| 17:03.25 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather nszp |
| 17:03.26 | weatherbot | Failed to lookup weather at station NSZP |
| 17:03.29 | CosmicPenguin | Anyway, thats what I was hoping - it will give me a chance to force Greg to change the MW calilbration |
| 17:03.35 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh, why? if it's not there? |
| 17:03.40 | sorphin | chouimat: haha |
| 17:03.59 | chouimat | sorphin: a little too cold :) |
| 17:04.04 | sorphin | chouimat: actually |
| 17:04.10 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: mainly because everyone who is watching has some sort of interest in the game |
| 17:04.11 | sorphin | i was haha'ing at your failed lookup ;) |
| 17:04.18 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: heh |
| 17:04.20 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: either they are rooting for one of the teams, or they have money on the game |
| 17:04.30 | chouimat | sorphin: they get the info about two time a day |
| 17:04.42 | sorphin | chouimat: umm |
| 17:05.02 | sorphin | chouimat: where is nszp? :P i bet if you had a K airport code, it'd find it right away :P |
| 17:05.51 | chouimat | sorphin: Admundesn-Scott South Pole Station |
| 17:06.00 | sorphin | heh |
| 17:06.32 | chouimat | sorphin: at 1150UTC about -70F |
| 17:06.37 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:06.50 | sorphin | and when i lived in WI, it was -40F |
| 17:06.52 | sorphin | :P |
| 17:07.12 | chouimat | sorphin: we didn't get that too often this year |
| 17:07.25 | mallum | kergoth: heya |
| 17:07.33 | chouimat | hi kergoth |
| 17:07.43 | mallum | kergoth: just wanted to see if you got a chance to play with my x stuff at all ? |
| 17:07.53 | kergoth | CosmicPenguin: agreed. coord transforms dont belong in kernel space. |
| 17:08.10 | kergoth | mallum: fraid not.. wasnt very productive last night |
| 17:08.48 | mallum | kergoth: np, Im making a matchbox crystal theme to piss the gpe people off into getting round to making a proper gpe theme |
| 17:09.26 | kergoth | hah |
| 17:09.26 | kergoth | cool |
| 17:10.34 | mallum | and to piss the opie people off too, as obviously it will be vastly better than theres ;-) |
| 17:11.14 | kergoth | hm, i shoudl play with prelink again |
| 17:11.44 | chouimat | grrr damn cat! leave my keyboard alone |
| 17:13.03 | mallum | chouimat: put double sided sticky tape on its paw and a bit of chilli power on its arse hole, that'll keep it busy for a while |
| 17:13.28 | chouimat | mallum: i moved it to the top of one of my monitor |
| 17:13.59 | mallum | chouimat: yeah, thats probably the more humane option |
| 17:21.26 | sorphin | mallum: um.. that's just... odd |
| 17:21.34 | sorphin | mallum: but then, you are in the uk ;) |
| 17:24.56 | mallum | sorphin: yes, personally Id never to that to a cat or any animal |
| 17:25.38 | sorphin | mallum: good to hear |
| 17:26.11 | sorphin | mallum: i heard back in his younger years, that was a date for prpplague |
| 17:27.15 | sorphin | ROTFL at these prices |
| 17:27.25 | sorphin | For a limited time on hsn.com you can get a Sharp Zaurus SL-5500 PDA for $198.92, combined with a hsn.com coupon you can bring the price down to $169.08. |
| 17:27.34 | sorphin | um.. i pade $175 for mine months ago :P |
| 17:27.37 | sorphin | paid even |
| 17:27.45 | kergoth | eh? |
| 17:27.49 | kergoth | then you were pretty damn lucky |
| 17:28.06 | sorphin | kergoth: ebay baby, brand new, never opened :) |
| 17:28.18 | kergoth | nice |
| 17:28.20 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: fell right off the truck, eh? |
| 17:28.24 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: nope |
| 17:28.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 17:28.28 | sorphin | all legit |
| 17:30.14 | sorphin | kergoth: you bother w/ screen protectors at all? |
| 17:33.36 | kergoth | nah |
| 17:33.42 | kergoth | probably should.. but no |
| 17:33.46 | sorphin | nod |
| 17:35.46 | sorphin | like you do on a horse |
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| 17:59.25 | Sammy_wms | hi, does any one have use lilo booting on Disk on modules(DOM) before ? |
| 17:59.34 | CosmicPenguin | Sammy_wms: yep |
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| 18:01.16 | Sammy_wms | cosmicPenguin:can you give me some point |
| 18:01.57 | Sammy_wms | now I try liading lilo on it , but it' |
| 18:02.17 | Sammy_wms | show up this error message "Fatal: mknod /tmp/dev.0: No such file or directory" |
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| 18:03.58 | CosmicPenguin | Sammy_wms: who made the DOM? |
| 18:04.22 | Sammy_wms | let me see ... |
| 18:06.47 | Sammy_wms | CosmicPenguin: I use this one http://www.nagasaki.com.tw/1-products/DOM.htm |
| 18:07.21 | CosmicPenguin | Ok then - you should be good to go |
| 18:07.42 | CosmicPenguin | make sure that you have a /dev/ directory on the device with the appropriate device files |
| 18:07.52 | CosmicPenguin | you probably also need a /tmp directory, and of course the lilo.conf somewhere |
| 18:08.42 | CosmicPenguin | If lilo is having trouble figuring out the geometry of the module, you will proabably need to specify it in the config flie with the disk= param |
| 18:09.43 | Sammy_wms | the /dev yes I have , so I need to add a dir name /tmp ? |
| 18:10.02 | CosmicPenguin | well, yeah - but you should have a /tmp anyway |
| 18:11.43 | Sammy_wms | I make it on on DOM , it's that right ? |
| 18:12.33 | CosmicPenguin | The DOM is the root device, right? |
| 18:12.59 | Sammy_wms | yeap |
| 18:15.45 | Sammy_wms | so if I saw "ackup copy of boot sector in /boot/boot.0301" and "Writing boot sector." it's prossibly install finish right ? |
| 18:16.00 | CosmicPenguin | yeah |
| 18:16.17 | CosmicPenguin | but it should say added:" |
| 18:16.23 | CosmicPenguin | and then your target |
| 18:17.15 | Sammy_wms | Reading boot sector from /dev/hda1 |
| 18:17.16 | Sammy_wms | Merging with /boot/boot.b |
| 18:17.16 | Sammy_wms | Mapping message file /boot/message |
| 18:17.16 | Sammy_wms | Boot image: vmlinuz-2.4.18-14 |
| 18:17.16 | Sammy_wms | Added linux * |
| 18:17.46 | CosmicPenguin | there you go |
| 18:19.07 | Sammy_wms | ok thanks CosmicPenguin :) |
| 18:19.12 | CosmicPenguin | not a problem |
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| 18:21.04 | Sammy_wms | btw , CosmicPenguin :do you have any idea to protect some partition of this DOM ,don't let the other people mount it on ? |
| 18:22.46 | CosmicPenguin | Sammy_wms: The only way you can do that is to either encrypt the filesystem, or somehow change the filesystem slightly, so that only your modified driver can mount the partition |
| 18:23.36 | CosmicPenguin | For example, mangle the first 512 bytres of the partition, and rewrite your driver to skip the first 512 bytes |
| 18:23.53 | CosmicPenguin | Sammy_wms: but no matter what you do, somebody will figure it out and reverse it - thats a guarntee |
| 18:28.01 | Sammy_wms | ok , reboot it ... |
| 18:32.55 | prpplague | GPSFan: hey, just got your email |
| 18:33.18 | GPSFan | hey prp: I'm just cleaning up my desk, what a mess! |
| 18:33.27 | sorphin | GPSFan: hey, there you are |
| 18:33.32 | sorphin | didn't see you sneak in |
| 18:33.43 | prpplague | GPSFan: thanks for the url |
| 18:33.49 | prpplague | GPSFan: i might order from those guys |
| 18:33.52 | kergoth | hey GPSFan |
| 18:34.00 | prpplague | GPSFan: i've had problems with the liquidations.com ppl |
| 18:34.08 | GPSFan | sure, I had lost it for about 2 months, finally found it last night. |
| 18:34.12 | sorphin | prpplague: really? wouldn't have noticed ;) |
| 18:34.38 | GPSFan | hey kergoth: have fun with your dct? |
| 18:34.48 | kergoth | not really, been busy |
| 18:34.52 | kergoth | so its been collecting dust |
| 18:34.56 | kergoth | but soon! |
| 18:34.57 | kergoth | heheh |
| 18:35.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 18:36.13 | GPSFan | sorphin: i think we need a bit of guidance from tim, or his Lineo contact. as to how to load stuff into it. |
| 18:36.22 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:36.31 | sorphin | GPSFan: all i got mine doing last night was hunting :P |
| 18:36.36 | sorphin | freq 1-8 |
| 18:36.44 | sorphin | hooked up my cable |
| 18:36.49 | GPSFan | sorphin: did you get to the boot menu? |
| 18:36.50 | sorphin | just hunted F1 :P |
| 18:36.53 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:37.32 | sorphin | btw, i checked the rf out.. nothing there either, but static |
| 18:37.43 | GPSFan | one of those selections must initiate a download from one of the interfaces. hopefully serial. |
| 18:38.11 | sorphin | nod |
| 18:38.27 | GPSFan | sorphin: did you hook a term up to it? |
| 18:38.47 | sorphin | no, this was over by the tv.. |
| 18:39.02 | sorphin | while everything is close, it's not *that* close |
| 18:39.03 | GPSFan | ah, it was late too ;) |
| 18:39.07 | sorphin | yeah |
| 18:39.10 | chouimat | hmmm 2C outside, I will open the windows ... |
| 18:39.53 | chouimat | sorphin: :) |
| 18:40.13 | GPSFan | weatherbot: weather KGCT |
| 18:40.15 | weatherbot | Failed to lookup weather at station KGCT |
| 18:40.32 | kergoth | sorphin: you finally got those screws off eh? |
| 18:40.45 | chouimat | GPSFan: 2 options: 1) timeout on the server 2) no info |
| 18:40.56 | sorphin | kergoth: yeah, the AC cord seperater in my multi lil pliers helped |
| 18:41.00 | kergoth | ah |
| 18:41.15 | GPSFan | weatherbot: weather KGJX |
| 18:41.16 | chouimat | GPSFan: time out on the server |
| 18:41.17 | weatherbot | Failed to lookup weather at station KGJX |
| 18:41.22 | GPSFan | weatherbot: weather KGJT |
| 18:41.24 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Grand Junction, Walker Field, CO, United States: It is 7 C (45 F), windspeed is 22.53 km/h, and visibility is 16.09 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1753 UTC). |
| 18:41.27 | sorphin | kergoth: the prob was they're torqued so tight |
| 18:41.34 | chouimat | weatherbot: weather cyqb |
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| 18:41.36 | weatherbot | Current conditions at Quebec, Que, Canada: It is 1 C (35 F), windspeed is 27.36 km/h, and visibility is 48.28 km. (Information current as of 2003.03.18 1800 UTC). |
| 18:41.44 | sorphin | enough weatherbot spam :P |
| 18:41.49 | sorphin | use /m :P |
| 18:41.56 | chouimat | sorphin: yes master |
| 18:42.05 | sorphin | ;) |
| 18:42.18 | GPSFan | sorphin: yess massa.. |
| 18:43.08 | Sammy_wms | CosmicPenguin :can't boot, the worst case , nothing show up ... :( |
| 18:43.15 | CosmicPenguin | Nothing at all? |
| 18:43.21 | Sammy_wms | yeap |
| 18:43.25 | CosmicPenguin | Wow, that is bad |
| 18:44.28 | Sammy_wms | maybe I should copy how I do to you, to check anything wrong |
| 18:44.52 | CosmicPenguin | Sammy_wms: everything seems fine to me. Perhaps you should ask the folks on the LILO mailing list |
| 18:45.37 | Sammy_wms | CosmicPenguin: when you install , what's command you use ? |
| 18:46.04 | CosmicPenguin | /sbin/lilo -r <mount point> -C <path to the lilo.conf, adjusted for the new root> |
| 18:47.21 | Sammy_wms | so there is no prob here -> that's I use /sbin/lilo -v -C /etc/lilo.conf -r /mnt/dom , right ? |
| 18:47.30 | CosmicPenguin | Works for me |
| 18:48.00 | Sammy_wms | and what file should I have on DOM ? |
| 18:48.07 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 18:48.51 | Sammy_wms | I copy the boot.b and lilo.conf and vmlinuz map massage /dev/hda1 /dev/null to dom |
| 18:48.54 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: he has a proper /boot dir too? |
| 18:49.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: good point |
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| 18:51.00 | Sammy_wms | sorphin: I make a dir name boot and copy boot.b map massage into it on DOM , is that's you say ? |
| 18:51.20 | kergoth | hey andersee |
| 18:51.25 | andersee | kergoth: morning |
| 18:51.33 | sorphin | Sammy_wms: lilo actually create map itself |
| 18:52.09 | sorphin | Sammy_wms: when you say nothing shows up |
| 18:52.19 | sorphin | not even say.... LIL- or LI ? |
| 18:53.13 | Sammy_wms | not a single word |
| 18:54.09 | sorphin | sounds to me like it's not really writing to the boot block or whatever scans the bootloader area of whatever a DOM is |
| 18:54.16 | sorphin | isn't seeing lilo |
| 18:56.42 | Sammy_wms | I try format this dom again and do it again from start |
| 19:03.08 | GPSFan | prpplague: do you think that liquidations.com still has any or are they just sh*theads? |
| 19:05.39 | chouimat|lunch | ibot praise vmware4 |
| 19:05.39 | | chouimat|lunch: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 19:06.50 | CosmicPenguin | sh* threads? Thats the strangest variable I have ever seen |
| 19:06.57 | CosmicPenguin | Must be C++ |
| 19:07.03 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: har har :P |
| 19:07.26 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: don't you have pixil to not be releasing because greg just added some new pointless thing he wants in it? :P |
| 19:09.20 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: actually no - my most recent code bloat went out yesterday, and I haven't heard back |
| 19:09.29 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:09.37 | sorphin | he must be stewing up new bloat |
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| 19:13.40 | Sammy_wms | sorphin:if my dom is on IDE1 (hdc1) , at lilo.conf file should I still write boot=/dev/hda1 or boot=/dev/hdc1 ? |
| 19:14.06 | sorphin | ummm |
| 19:14.40 | sorphin | is there a device on hda that will be in the system when you wanna boot off this "dom" ? |
| 19:14.43 | mallum | kergoth: I put some shots on scap of my crystal theme |
| 19:15.12 | Sammy_wms | yes |
| 19:16.27 | sorphin | Sammy_wms: and do you want lilo to only boot the dom ? |
| 19:16.35 | Sammy_wms | uh , sorry no |
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| 19:16.38 | Sammy_wms | yes |
| 19:16.51 | sorphin | Sammy_wms: make up your mind :) |
| 19:17.39 | Sammy_wms | sorry , I only what lilo boot the dom :) |
| 19:18.02 | sorphin | ok, here's the deal then |
| 19:18.18 | sorphin | Sammy_wms: if there's another device (an hda) in the machine |
| 19:18.38 | sorphin | the BIOS is gonna look at the boot block of THAT device |
| 19:19.36 | sorphin | since it's the 1st device available, unless you change it/can change it in your bios to select what device you want to go to, then it'll find the DOM w/ lilo in it's boot block |
| 19:19.38 | sorphin | and boot it |
| 19:19.42 | sorphin | otherwise |
| 19:19.58 | sorphin | you have to actually have it write the lilo boot record to hda's boot block |
| 19:20.06 | sorphin | to boot from hdc w/ lilo |
| 19:20.52 | sorphin | follow? |
| 19:21.19 | Sammy_wms | don't get it :( |
| 19:21.33 | sorphin | ok |
| 19:21.41 | sorphin | the dom is hdc |
| 19:21.55 | sorphin | there's an hda in the machine, correct ? |
| 19:22.15 | Sammy_wms | I hope just one dom on machine in hda and boot lilo |
| 19:22.43 | sorphin | have you tried it that way yet? |
| 19:22.51 | sorphin | that's the only way this will work |
| 19:23.13 | sorphin | without having lilo write it's boot information to some device that is known as hda, if your dom is gonna be hdc |
| 19:23.19 | sorphin | the dom has to be hda |
| 19:23.29 | sorphin | for the bios to find lilo on it |
| 19:24.06 | Sammy_wms | o , ok |
| 19:24.10 | ade|indy | morning all |
| 19:24.31 | Sammy_wms | now |
| 19:24.53 | sorphin | ade|indy: "yo adrian" *smirk* |
| 19:25.08 | ade|indy | ? |
| 19:25.17 | sorphin | sorry, bad joke |
| 19:25.34 | sorphin | just male'ized the yo adrian from the movie rocky |
| 19:25.44 | ade|indy | ah |
| 19:26.18 | ade|indy | last person to try that, ended up with a new nose :) |
| 19:26.23 | sorphin | haha |
| 19:26.32 | sorphin | glad i'm over on this side of the pond then :P |
| 19:26.46 | ade|indy | ~lart sorphin |
| 19:26.52 | ade|indy | thats better |
| 19:27.02 | ade|indy | ~lart sorphin more |
| 19:27.07 | sorphin | ~bitchslap ade|indy |
| 19:27.09 | | ACTION beats the sh*t out of ade|indy |
| 19:27.12 | sorphin | :P |
| 19:27.26 | ade|indy | lol |
| 19:27.30 | sorphin | ha |
| 19:27.45 | sorphin | that's.. just bad |
| 19:28.18 | sorphin | wonder if he's made the treadmill run pixil yet |
| 19:28.32 | cosmic_gym | thats dangerous |
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| 19:29.00 | sorphin | cosmic_gym: shouldn't you be kinetic energying? |
| 19:29.14 | cosmic_gym | my ipc server kept doing infinate loops yesterday, I can't imagine what would do to a treadmill |
| 19:29.21 | cosmic_gym | sorphin: yeah, yeah, I'm leaving right now |
| 19:29.21 | sorphin | eww |
| 19:29.22 | prpplague | sorphin: naw, the treadmill has picogui |
| 19:29.28 | sorphin | prpplague: heh |
| 19:29.57 | sorphin | prpplague: since i've never actually witnessed pico gui *running* |
| 19:29.59 | cosmic_gym | prpplague: so, that means it looks awesome, but can only go 1.5 MPH? |
| 19:30.04 | sorphin | i'd say that treadmill is dead |
| 19:30.15 | sorphin | cp: *g* |
| 19:30.33 | sorphin | ibot: seen scanline |
| 19:30.33 | | scanline is currently on #picogui (2d 19h 27m 10s) #elinux (2d 19h 27m 10s) #openembedded (2d 19h 27m 10s) #bzflag (2d 19h 27m 10s). Has said a total of 112 messages. Is idling for 2h 31m 21s |
| 19:31.58 | prpplague | cosmic_gym: lol, no it looks good, but only has a few ppl that can run on it |
| 19:32.36 | sorphin | prpplague: ;) |
| 19:32.51 | sorphin | prpplague: one of which isn't me ;) |
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| 19:33.58 | sorphin | hmm |
| 19:34.09 | sorphin | and you're intentionally not allowed to click on pics to make them bigger :P |
| 19:34.40 | sorphin | prpplague: oh goodie, atleast the guy gets in here and knows what he is before we tell him *grin* |
| 19:35.08 | ade|indy | lol |
| 19:35.20 | chouimat|lunch | huh? |
| 19:35.32 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: -:- akuma is now known as hardcorelamer |
| 19:36.47 | chouimat|lunch | sorphin: aaaah! ok |
| 19:37.09 | hardcorelamer | hello |
| 19:38.43 | prpplague | sorphin: ? |
| 19:38.51 | prpplague | sorphin: hun? |
| 19:39.06 | sorphin | prpplague: look up to what i just showed chouimat too :P |
| 19:39.23 | hardcorelamer | has anyone done work with openbricks ? |
| 19:39.38 | chouimat|lunch | openbricks? |
| 19:39.42 | prpplague | sorphin: oh |
| 19:39.59 | prpplague | hardcorelamer: a little to expensive to play around with |
| 19:40.00 | hardcorelamer | oh, that is not embedded enough? |
| 19:40.07 | prpplague | sorphin: no just distracted |
| 19:40.20 | sorphin | prpplague: stop thinking of drinks to serve at the nudie bar :P |
| 19:40.48 | prpplague | sorphin: more like getting sales for the hackkit |
| 19:40.54 | prpplague | sorphin: trying to make it a reality |
| 19:40.59 | sorphin | prpplague: hehe |
| 19:41.02 | sorphin | i was just gonna say |
| 19:41.07 | chouimat|lunch | wtf is openbricks? |
| 19:41.10 | sorphin | you mean that thing still exists? |
| 19:41.15 | prpplague | sorphin: apparently my boss has gotten wind of the project and wants in on it |
| 19:41.27 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: one sec and i'll get a url |
| 19:41.28 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, how much of a cut? :P |
| 19:41.28 | hardcorelamer | choumat, try openbrick.org |
| 19:42.00 | sorphin | ummm |
| 19:42.05 | prpplague | http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9665405525.html |
| 19:42.07 | sorphin | prpplague: is it me |
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| 19:42.19 | sorphin | or does that thing look familiar? :P |
| 19:42.26 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: its actually almost identical to my planned tcsx-3 |
| 19:42.46 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: x86? |
| 19:42.51 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: ya |
| 19:43.08 | chouimat|lunch | ok better to get www.soekris.com (less expensive) |
| 19:43.55 | prpplague | hardcorelamer: this isn't actually made by the french company, but is a tawain knock off company |
| 19:44.48 | sorphin | prpplague: don't forget, if you ever do make the tcsx-3, don't ship one to file ;) it'll never get there |
| 19:44.58 | prpplague | sorphin: agreed |
| 19:45.04 | prpplague | sorphin: no the tcsx series is dead |
| 19:45.10 | chouimat|lunch | sorphin: feeling bitchy? |
| 19:45.14 | prpplague | sorphin: all i have is the proto's of the tcsx-2 and 3 |
| 19:45.28 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: nah, i just don't care for file, so.. |
| 19:45.40 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: and you missed all the fun i'm refering to |
| 19:45.41 | prpplague | sorphin: now, all the tawainiess knocks are selling like crazy |
| 19:45.58 | chouimat|lunch | sorphin: so i don't to know then |
| 19:46.02 | sorphin | prpplague: doh.. better hurry w/ the hackkit then, before they snag that too |
| 19:46.05 | prpplague | sorphin: boss is interested in funding the entire product |
| 19:46.24 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: good or bad |
| 19:46.39 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: ok, at one point, prpplague had sent file a tcsx-1, and file nagged him every day wanting to know where it was |
| 19:46.49 | sorphin | or somesuch |
| 19:46.58 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: it got stuck in canada customs |
| 19:47.01 | sorphin | :P |
| 19:47.08 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: good for the $$, bad for cheap developers |
| 19:47.09 | sorphin | prpplague: sound about right? |
| 19:47.10 | chouimat|lunch | sorphin: hehe |
| 19:47.15 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 19:47.29 | prpplague | sorphin: last i heard it was on its way to be destroyed |
| 19:47.34 | sorphin | prpplague: doh |
| 19:47.48 | sorphin | prpplague: that's what you get for sending those bomb lookalikes to canada ;) |
| 19:47.49 | prpplague | sorphin: no canadian fcc sticker |
| 19:48.17 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: no csa sticker? |
| 19:48.22 | sorphin | nope |
| 19:48.37 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: if thats the equiv of fcc in canada |
| 19:48.48 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: ya i we never sold it in ca |
| 19:48.57 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: it's the equivalent ... |
| 19:49.06 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: yep |
| 19:49.27 | chouimat|lunch | prpplague: did you wrote product sample on the custom form? |
| 19:49.44 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: i usually write gift for everything |
| 19:50.03 | file | hi all |
| 19:50.12 | prpplague | chouimat|lunch: i don't recall its been over a year |
| 19:50.15 | sorphin | going to the uk atleast |
| 19:50.27 | chouimat|lunch | sorphin: me too but product sample help electronic stuff without csa sticker pass the customs :) |
| 19:50.40 | sorphin | chouimat|lunch: i've never had anything opened |
| 19:50.48 | sorphin | :) |
| 19:53.43 | chouimat | after weeks of ramen soup for lunch those hot stuff are good |
| 19:55.00 | sorphin | dammit, wtf is up w/ phoenix.. |
| 19:55.05 | sorphin | stupid thing |
| 19:55.38 | prpplague | GPSFan: did you say you need two or three webpals? |
| 19:56.33 | sorphin | prpplague: i was gonna grab a third and have a trifecta if you had ever gotten the palette in |
| 19:56.33 | ade|indy | anyone know what netkit telnetd links against ? |
| 19:57.04 | prpplague | ade|indy: the telnetd should be tarballed with the netkit |
| 19:57.38 | prpplague | sorphin: GPSFan gave a url for someone that still has some in stock that you can order from |
| 19:57.57 | prpplague | sorphin: http://www.acetraders.com/products/monthsal.htm |
| 19:58.10 | sorphin | prpplague: so why's he needing to have you get some then he get one from you? *grin* |
| 19:58.27 | sorphin | or is it just so you don't buy them out before he gets one? ;) |
| 19:58.37 | GPSFan | prpplague: yeah, depending on $ and shipping. |
| 19:58.43 | ade|indy | prpplague:indeed it is, but i just need to know what the binary loads with, ldd type og thing |
| 19:59.11 | ade|indy | s/og/of |
| 19:59.15 | hardcorelamer | anyone test the GP32 handheld game system? |
| 19:59.16 | sorphin | prpplague: heh, i see why |
| 19:59.25 | sorphin | C) 1,000 units at $7.00 each - Webpal Internet Box - access the internet through your TV set or monitor, comes with wireless keyboard. Minimum order...1,000 units |
| 19:59.26 | prpplague | ade|indy: ohh, one sec |
| 19:59.36 | prpplague | sorphin: thats suppose to be 10 units |
| 19:59.42 | prpplague | sorphin: typo, i already called |
| 19:59.47 | sorphin | heh |
| 19:59.50 | sorphin | big typo :P |
| 19:59.55 | ade|indy | lol |
| 19:59.55 | sorphin | someone got 0 happy |
| 20:00.31 | sorphin | prpplague: well, i only need 1 :P so i'd still wanna grab from you :P *grin* |
| 20:00.43 | GPSFan | prpplague: did they have any shipping $ info, if that's a typo, maybe I'll just get them from them. |
| 20:00.54 | prpplague | ade|indy: the only lib i see is libutils |
| 20:00.56 | sorphin | GPSFan: you need to order 10 :P |
| 20:00.59 | prpplague | ade|indy: what dist? |
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| 20:01.36 | sorphin | prpplague: hold on.. where's the typo here.. both 1,000's or just the 2nd one? |
| 20:01.42 | GPSFan | prpplague: k, 10 is waht I originally wanted to get from liquidations.com or you.. |
| 20:02.01 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:02.06 | ade|indy | i want to build it for arm (tuxscreen) against uclibc0.9.19 but having fun with c++ configure on the damn buildroot |
| 20:02.55 | prpplague | sorphin: min order qty 10 |
| 20:03.08 | sorphin | k, which brings me back to |
| 20:03.09 | file | prpplague: at $7 each? |
| 20:03.13 | sorphin | i don't need 10 ;) |
| 20:03.41 | sorphin | hell, i barely even have room for 1 more, and these DCT's ;) |
| 20:04.07 | file | thanks to chouimat and another person I'll soon have some extra money... |
| 20:04.43 | prpplague | ahh liquidations.com hasn't had webpals in a year, thats why they never sent them |
| 20:04.50 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:04.56 | sorphin | then they need to fix their page |
| 20:05.03 | chouimat | hmmm the shipping cost is 24.45USD for USPS Air ... I wonder how much ground cost |
| 20:05.33 | file | chouimat: where? for what? that's... downright evil |
| 20:05.53 | sorphin | chouimat: my 2 webpals ground, cost me $22, tho i think the shipping was inflated |
| 20:05.56 | file | chouimat: anyway, USPS Surface usually costs roughly the same (give/take a few dollars) |
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| 20:06.07 | chouimat | file: the webpal, for CA to Quebec City |
| 20:06.28 | file | chouimat: sounds like a flat rate... not the actual rate |
| 20:07.01 | chouimat | file: it's what it's printed on the box |
| 20:07.38 | file | chouimat: that's... very odd, how much did it weigh? |
| 20:07.53 | chouimat | file 11lb 5 |
| 20:08.13 | file | for a Webpal? oh dear me... that's... |
| 20:08.26 | file | chouimat: what's up? lol |
| 20:08.42 | chouimat | file: I paid 23.95 USD for it |
| 20:09.03 | file | chouimat: I hope you find a use for it |
| 20:09.27 | chouimat | file: yup ... a little terminal in my bed room ... |
| 20:09.41 | file | chouimat: keyboard too? |
| 20:09.51 | chouimat | file: yup |
| 20:10.00 | file | chouimat: nifty. |
| 20:11.44 | file | chouimat: but currently it's sitting there doing nothing? :) |
| 20:12.00 | chouimat | file: yup ... |
| 20:12.18 | file | chouimat: well I hope the SIMM is useful to you. |
| 20:12.34 | chouimat | file: me too ... 32MB? |
| 20:12.53 | file | chouimat: affirmative |
| 20:13.07 | file | chouimat: does it just have one SIMM slot? |
| 20:20.34 | chouimat | file: yup |
| 20:21.04 | *** part/#elinux GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130) |
| 20:21.50 | file | chouimat: that bites |
| 20:25.40 | *** join/#elinux GPSFan (~kenm@65.114.238.130) |
| 20:25.44 | sorphin | GPSFan: re |
| 20:26.06 | GPSFan | hi, my ups died yesterday, just replaced the batts. |
| 20:26.19 | sorphin | on ebay |
| 20:26.28 | sorphin | and i don't have any damn $ now :P |
| 20:26.29 | sorphin | grr |
| 20:26.58 | chouimat | sorphin: how much? |
| 20:27.37 | sorphin | one at 1 day left at 95 |
| 20:27.47 | sorphin | couple at 100, or buy it now @ 120 |
| 20:27.58 | cosmic_gym | nick CosmicPenguin |
| 20:27.59 | sorphin | made by PDC |
| 20:28.02 | chouimat | ibot change 120 USD to CAD |
| 20:28.04 | CosmicPenguin | dammit |
| 20:28.28 | chouimat | ibot change 1 USD to CAD |
| 20:28.41 | CosmicPenguin | Hah |
| 20:29.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: btw.. if i ever manage to have $ again |
| 20:29.00 | chouimat | ibot change 15 cad to usd |
| 20:29.12 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: expect something from your registry |
| 20:29.57 | sorphin | chouimat: tis from my last trip that took me via .ca |
| 20:30.09 | sorphin | forgot i had it and so forgot to exchange it |
| 20:30.34 | chouimat | ibot change 236 chf to cad |
| 20:31.38 | chouimat | sorphin: yes master ... please not the whip please, master |
| 20:31.45 | sorphin | chouimat: um.. |
| 20:31.55 | sorphin | chouimat: it's called being courteous to other channel users |
| 20:31.56 | chouimat | sorphin: :P |
| 20:31.56 | sorphin | :P |
| 20:32.22 | sorphin | chouimat: and as an oper of this channel, it's my 1st warning to you :P |
| 20:32.55 | chouimat | http://www.observer.co.uk/international/story/0,6903,915125,00.html |
| 20:33.10 | sorphin | chouimat: and fyi, it's the same for anyone, so.. |
| 20:34.06 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so what's the highest preference of things on the registries? (i.e. most needed) |
| 20:40.16 | GPSFan | sorphin: the cookies. ;) |
| 20:40.37 | sorphin | GPSFan: eh? |
| 20:41.18 | GPSFan | sorphin: med & large cookie on the Tagget reg. |
| 20:41.32 | sorphin | ah |
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| 20:45.48 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o andersee] by ChanServ |
| 20:45.53 | sorphin | andersee: yo |
| 20:46.06 | prpplague | andersee: welcome oh great busybox god |
| 20:46.07 | sorphin | andersee: found a few 256M mmcs on ebay.. |
| 20:46.09 | kergoth | hey andersee |
| 20:46.11 | sorphin | andersee: so.. |
| 20:46.17 | kergoth | 256M mmc? thatd be nice.. |
| 20:46.27 | sorphin | kergoth: made by PDC |
| 20:46.36 | andersee | sorphin: oh? How much? |
| 20:46.48 | prpplague | andersee: ln -s busybox codewisdom |
| 20:46.51 | sorphin | kergoth: unfortunately, the DCT's broke me till the 28th :( |
| 20:47.02 | sorphin | prpplague: you got some brown stuff on your nose dave |
| 20:47.26 | sorphin | andersee: cheapest is 95 atm and ends in 1 day and such, couple at 100, buy it now at 120, and one just siting at 120 |
| 20:47.28 | prpplague | sorphin: did i get it? |
| 20:47.34 | sorphin | prpplague: yeah |
| 20:48.01 | sorphin | i always find stuff i want when i'm broke :P |
| 20:48.02 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: ahh, don't spend your money on me... :) |
| 20:48.55 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: :) |
| 20:49.01 | andersee | sorphin: looks like the 128s are _lots_ cheaper |
| 20:49.06 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: registries are for parents and people who feel guilty |
| 20:49.30 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: true.. i won't feel guilty till i see pixil forked and we can mess w/ it ;) |
| 20:49.34 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm probably going to stick some charity donations up there as well - so if you get an urge to spend cash, then send it to a charity |
| 20:49.49 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I'm trying.... its like yelling at a brick wall |
| 20:49.59 | sorphin | andersee: well.. if you're lucky |
| 20:50.19 | sorphin | andersee: 256's are quite rare it seems, so.. |
| 20:50.29 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: yeah :( |
| 20:50.53 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: btw.. stacee is nice *8) |
| 20:51.52 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thx |
| 20:53.27 | sorphin | nod |
| 20:53.28 | prpplague | sorphin: working for wcom would imply you are always broke |
| 20:53.53 | sorphin | prpplague: well, not always, just closer now than i usually am.. all the bills hit this last check at once |
| 20:54.10 | sorphin | prpplague: normally i can balance them between checks |
| 20:54.21 | sorphin | but since my next one isn't till the 28th.. |
| 20:54.26 | sorphin | which is after everything is due |
| 20:55.52 | prpplague | sorphin: thats why i'm 2 months ahead on bills |
| 20:56.02 | prpplague | sorphin: i hate it when that happens |
| 20:56.04 | kergoth | heh |
| 20:56.11 | ade|indy | i'm looking to sell my sister off , any takers ? f/29/blonde |
| 20:56.25 | prpplague | ade|indy: cool, english accent? |
| 20:56.30 | ade|indy | yup |
| 20:56.42 | sorphin | ade|indy: need imagry :P |
| 20:56.46 | sorphin | +e |
| 20:56.47 | prpplague | ade|indy: cook a shepards pie? |
| 20:57.04 | sorphin | prpplague: get over it dave, you already bought yourself a hot nanny :P |
| 20:57.16 | chouimatnap | ade|indy: pic? |
| 20:57.18 | ade|indy | good cook, can canoe very well. |
| 20:57.21 | sorphin | chouimatnap: ;) |
| 20:57.40 | prpplague | sorphin: ya but i found out she partial to black men |
| 20:57.43 | chouimatnap | sorphin: what? |
| 20:57.52 | sorphin | prpplague: so bathe in shoe polish |
| 20:57.53 | ade|indy | erm .. as for pics .. not sure if there are any on the net .. will sort one out when i go hone in three weeks |
| 20:57.55 | prpplague | ade|indy: cool, whats the starting bid? |
| 20:58.10 | ade|indy | £5 |
| 20:58.16 | sorphin | heh |
| 20:58.21 | prpplague | ade|indy: man what a steal |
| 20:58.21 | CosmicPenguin | Wow |
| 20:58.27 | sorphin | ade|indy: cheap tosser ;) |
| 20:58.31 | prpplague | ade|indy: thats better than the women in honduras :) |
| 20:58.38 | sorphin | prpplague: eww |
| 20:58.44 | kergoth | aha |
| 20:58.46 | chouimat | at that price I wonder if there is a catch somewhere |
| 20:58.47 | kergoth | and dave would know.. |
| 20:58.48 | kergoth | :P |
| 20:58.53 | ade|indy | shes even house trained too |
| 20:58.54 | sorphin | kergoth: yup, he would |
| 20:58.59 | prpplague | ade|indy: lol |
| 20:59.04 | sorphin | ade|indy: height? :P |
| 20:59.11 | ade|indy | 5 foot 6 |
| 20:59.11 | CosmicPenguin | ade|indy: does she enjoy drinking and watching the Matrix several times a day? |
| 20:59.17 | sorphin | ade|indy: coo |
| 20:59.17 | file | mmm... Matrix |
| 20:59.18 | kergoth | hah |
| 20:59.21 | file | when is the new one coming out? |
| 20:59.26 | prpplague | when i get my divorce final, i'm gonna go find me a cute UK chick |
| 20:59.27 | ade|indy | shes the outdoor type |
| 20:59.28 | TheMasterMind1 | this summer |
| 20:59.29 | CosmicPenguin | May 17th, I think |
| 20:59.30 | TheMasterMind1 | the new ones |
| 20:59.31 | sorphin | ade|indy: measurements? :P *grin* |
| 20:59.34 | file | great |
| 20:59.41 | sorphin | prpplague: ya know |
| 20:59.47 | sorphin | prpplague: i saw plenty when i was in england |
| 20:59.52 | chouimat | ade|indy: does she able to have a conversation about the moorcock or any scifi author? |
| 20:59.58 | ade|indy | 36 DD . dont know any other bits |
| 21:00.01 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well, thats where i'd suspect there would be some |
| 21:00.05 | sorphin | and they all loved wearing those hip hugging black pants that fit just right |
| 21:00.09 | prpplague | ade|indy: lol |
| 21:00.20 | sorphin | ade|indy: too much for me |
| 21:00.23 | kergoth | lol |
| 21:00.24 | sorphin | dave can have her |
| 21:00.30 | prpplague | wahoo |
| 21:00.36 | CosmicPenguin | 5-6 and 36 DD? |
| 21:00.42 | kergoth | she must have back problems |
| 21:00.56 | TheMasterMind1 | lol |
| 21:00.57 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: so? i knew a chick 4'11" that was a very full D atleast |
| 21:01.05 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: that can't be healthy |
| 21:01.09 | ade|indy | is there some UK --to-- US breast diff? |
| 21:01.21 | sorphin | ade|indy: hmm |
| 21:01.21 | chouimat | kergoth: maybe she got some reinforcement .... |
| 21:01.25 | kergoth | if so, ibot needs to have a conversion function |
| 21:01.32 | ade|indy | lol |
| 21:01.41 | sorphin | i thikn there might be one |
| 21:01.41 | CosmicPenguin | ade|indy: no - but breasts are half as big again in Canada... :) |
| 21:01.49 | prpplague | rotfl |
| 21:01.53 | ade|indy | shes respones to the name Bex |
| 21:01.56 | kergoth | ibot: convert_breast UK to US 36DD |
| 21:01.58 | chouimat | ~lart CosmicPenguin |
| 21:02.00 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: you mean canadian women even have breasts? |
| 21:02.12 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: I think so - I mean, they must right? |
| 21:02.19 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: thought I have never seen one personally |
| 21:02.47 | ade|indy | case study does winey singing bints for Canada have tits ??? erm .. no |
| 21:02.47 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: i know women in TX do, that's where dave sets his beer |
| 21:03.02 | prpplague | sorphin: yep |
| 21:03.13 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: or the top of their head |
| 21:03.23 | CosmicPenguin | sorphin: flat headed women are very popular in the east of Texas |
| 21:03.27 | prpplague | sorphin: or ones with big butts you can longneck in the crack |
| 21:03.28 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: that's when all he sees is the top of their head :P |
| 21:03.45 | kergoth | thats to set your beer on right? |
| 21:03.48 | ade|indy | so do i hear £10 ? |
| 21:03.59 | prpplague | ade|indy: i'd go 20 quid |
| 21:04.06 | CosmicPenguin | prpplague: lol |
| 21:04.14 | sorphin | prpplague: sight unseen eh? |
| 21:04.20 | ade|indy | 20 quid is bid ... do i hear 21? |
| 21:04.22 | sorphin | you're very trusting of adrian ;) |
| 21:04.53 | chouimat | without pic I will not made a bid ... |
| 21:05.00 | ade|indy | brb.. i'll see if i can find a pic of her out there somewhere |
| 21:05.05 | sorphin | chouimat: smart man |
| 21:05.12 | prpplague | ade|indy: she;s not one of those that i could open a pint bottle with her teeth is she? |
| 21:05.25 | sorphin | prpplague: c'mon dave, you know if he's trying to sell her off, it's for a reason ;) |
| 21:05.28 | chouimat | sorphin: I don't want to get stuck with mrs. crabtree .... |
| 21:05.58 | sorphin | prpplague: if she doesn't atleast look as good as ashley, i wouldn't take her ;) |
| 21:06.05 | prpplague | i hope lilo doesn't get wind of this.......he'll start doing this too |
| 21:06.22 | chouimat | sorphin: why do you think they invented paper bag? |
| 21:06.25 | prpplague | sorphin: ya well thats a might high standard |
| 21:06.27 | kergoth | lol |
| 21:06.34 | sorphin | prpplague: yup, it is |
| 21:06.53 | sorphin | chouimat: there are some things, even a paper bag body suit couldn't fix :P |
| 21:06.59 | kergoth | god i need to bitchslap whomever designed this database |
| 21:07.07 | chouimat | sorphin: hehe |
| 21:07.11 | chouimat | kergoth: which database? |
| 21:07.18 | kergoth | ~bitchslap whomever designed this database |
| 21:07.26 | sorphin | ~bitchslap whomever made kergoth's database |
| 21:07.28 | kergoth | chouimat: db for our knowledge base / faq system for digi |
| 21:07.29 | sorphin | hahaha |
| 21:07.32 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:07.53 | kergoth | ibot: ping |
| 21:07.56 | chouimat | kergoth: based on which software |
| 21:07.57 | kergoth | hm |
| 21:07.59 | sorphin | ibot: test |
| 21:08.04 | ade|indy | na, shes quite nice, just i need the money and hell its not like i'm from cornwall so i cant have her, might as well make money |
| 21:08.06 | kergoth | chouimat: php driven |
| 21:08.21 | sorphin | kergoth: "oh my god! you killed ibot! bastard!" |
| 21:08.23 | ade|indy | no pics it would seem , least google cant find her |
| 21:08.24 | sorphin | :P |
| 21:08.28 | prpplague | "DAL-9000(Digi Answer Library) please look up this case...." "I'm sorry chris, i'm afraid i can't do that...." |
| 21:08.40 | chouimat | lol |
| 21:08.49 | kergoth | I need to put in the random result mutator |
| 21:09.03 | kergoth | every 100 queries it returns output from my fortune database |
| 21:09.05 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:09.10 | sorphin | ha |
| 21:09.15 | sorphin | hmm |
| 21:09.26 | sorphin | -:- CTCP PING reply from ibot: 0.366 seconds |
| 21:09.31 | sorphin | ibot: yo bitch |
| 21:09.40 | sorphin | yup, you killed it |
| 21:09.51 | kergoth | see, its all this piece of shit DB's fault |
| 21:09.57 | kergoth | first it drives me nuts, then kills the bot |
| 21:10.10 | prpplague | well guys i'm getting a quote on shipping for 100 webpals |
| 21:10.11 | sorphin | kergoth is an ibot killer! he's a murderer! |
| 21:10.27 | sorphin | prpplague: i think it's time for a hangin ;) |
| 21:10.39 | prpplague | sorphin: "DIGI! get a rope!" |
| 21:10.43 | kergoth | aha |
| 21:10.48 | sorphin | let's string him up |
| 21:10.57 | kergoth | death, or digi |
| 21:10.58 | kergoth | i take death! |
| 21:11.05 | sorphin | kergoth: death is digi |
| 21:11.09 | sorphin | because digi = hell |
| 21:11.10 | kergoth | good poitn |
| 21:11.25 | sorphin | so let's see |
| 21:11.27 | prpplague | naw, digi/abcs is more like purgatory |
| 21:11.30 | sorphin | i've seen what CP looks like now |
| 21:11.40 | sorphin | dave hides behind the camera |
| 21:11.41 | kergoth | prpplague: ah |
| 21:12.01 | chouimat | giving 53% of his salary in diverses taxes is HELL |
| 21:12.05 | sorphin | kergoth probably is in actuality, a talking digiboard |
| 21:12.06 | prpplague | sorphin: hmm, see if i have my overseas work permit photo |
| 21:12.12 | kergoth | hah |
| 21:12.17 | kergoth | http://profiles.yahoo.com/kergoth |
| 21:12.35 | prpplague | wow scarry |
| 21:12.38 | prpplague | lol |
| 21:12.44 | sorphin | yup |
| 21:12.56 | sorphin | prpplague: he looks like a digi employee alright |
| 21:13.03 | sorphin | prpplague: look at the shifty eyes |
| 21:13.08 | kergoth | you know, i'd lart you both if ibot was functional |
| 21:13.15 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:13.16 | chouimat | ewwww |
| 21:13.37 | sorphin | i see a bottle! |
| 21:13.45 | sorphin | better have been good booze :P |
| 21:14.02 | kergoth | naw, it was alize |
| 21:14.06 | prpplague | http://64.106.162.89/Messages.asp |
| 21:14.07 | kergoth | at the time i couldnt afford good booze |
| 21:14.09 | kergoth | heheh |
| 21:14.12 | prpplague | oops |
| 21:14.27 | sorphin | kergoth: you mean you actually can now? :P |
| 21:14.36 | kergoth | well the difference is in priorities |
| 21:15.13 | kergoth | i was broke, i am broke. difference is, now i'll buy good booze and eat ramen |
| 21:15.14 | kergoth | :D |
| 21:15.20 | sorphin | hehe |
| 21:15.25 | sorphin | kergoth: ramen rocks tho |
| 21:15.28 | kergoth | yea |
| 21:15.32 | sorphin | go MSG! |
| 21:15.33 | sorphin | ;) |
| 21:15.59 | chouimat | I'm tired of eating ramen ... I want to do s/ra/wo :) |
| 21:16.08 | sorphin | kergoth: if you're broke, who'd you kill for $ for a DCT? ;p |
| 21:16.40 | kergoth | sorphin: thats another thing, toys to improve my skills are higher priority than food |
| 21:16.43 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:16.47 | sorphin | ack |
| 21:17.12 | sorphin | kergoth: well, if you're eating ramen, which is only $.13/pack |
| 21:17.17 | sorphin | or less |
| 21:17.25 | sorphin | that's still not $50 |
| 21:17.33 | kergoth | heh, i do have some decent food in the house surprisingly |
| 21:17.36 | sorphin | unless you usually buy by the pallet |
| 21:17.42 | kergoth | there some frozen fresh crab legs in the freezer and shit |
| 21:17.46 | kergoth | course my bills are late |
| 21:17.48 | kergoth | but hey! |
| 21:17.54 | chouimat | priorities: toys and club to meet nice women .. then food |
| 21:18.02 | sorphin | kergoth: you won't say 'but hey' if they cut your power ;) |
| 21:18.08 | kergoth | sorphin: good point |
| 21:18.25 | kergoth | I just need to find another roommate again |
| 21:18.30 | kergoth | then i'll have the buffer i need |
| 21:18.32 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:18.42 | sorphin | kergoth: or beg more people to paypal for work on OZ *grin* |
| 21:18.46 | kergoth | hehe |
| 21:18.49 | sorphin | btw |
| 21:19.03 | sorphin | wtf does aman even do? his "profile" just says "Hello" :P |
| 21:19.13 | kergoth | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:19.15 | kergoth | maintains a few packages |
| 21:19.18 | sorphin | ah |
| 21:19.19 | kergoth | he and jamey maintain ipkg |
| 21:19.33 | sorphin | ah, was curious |
| 21:19.34 | kergoth | TheMasterMind1: right? |
| 21:19.36 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:19.38 | kergoth | tmm1 = aman |
| 21:19.56 | kergoth | i forgot to eat lunch again |
| 21:19.59 | kergoth | :\ |
| 21:20.00 | sorphin | aman gupta :P |
| 21:20.08 | prpplague | kergoth: http://www.abcsinc.com/images/dave_mug.jpg |
| 21:20.13 | prpplague | kergoth: work permit photo |
| 21:20.20 | sorphin | kergoth: heh, i got a $7 lunch for $3 |
| 21:20.22 | prpplague | kergoth: i actually have hair there |
| 21:20.27 | kergoth | ah |
| 21:20.33 | kergoth | sorphin: howd ya pull that off? |
| 21:21.00 | sorphin | kergoth: cafeteria cashier and i give eachother shit every day (cuz i'm down there every day).. told her i'm broke atm, and she took care of me.. (cuz $3 was all i had) |
| 21:21.20 | sorphin | turkey, cornbread dressing, bread, steamed carrots and sweet potatoes |
| 21:21.28 | sorphin | and cranberries |
| 21:21.37 | sorphin | that's what i grabbed |
| 21:21.43 | kergoth | nice |
| 21:21.52 | sorphin | prpplague: scary |
| 21:22.10 | sorphin | prpplague: looks like one of those photos that should actually be on the PO bulletin boards |
| 21:22.31 | chouimat | http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/photo.jpg |
| 21:23.09 | sorphin | chouimat: what is it w/ canadians and weird graduation robes? |
| 21:23.11 | chouimat | http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/picture.jpg < --- actual look |
| 21:23.29 | chouimat | sorphin: don't know |
| 21:23.41 | chouimat | http://ulyx.homeunix.org:12000/hair.jpg < --- actual look |
| 21:23.51 | sorphin | chouimat: every chick i've seen that i know from canada, always has some weird grad robe, and a dozen roses |
| 21:24.10 | sorphin | or atleast 1 few or something |
| 21:24.43 | CosmicPenguin | chouimat: interesting window treatment there.... |
| 21:24.51 | CosmicPenguin | Martha Stewart? |
| 21:24.53 | prpplague | chouimat: bummer, i'm fw handicaped |
| 21:25.04 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: hehe |
| 21:25.21 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: sorry the last photo is 10 years ago |
| 21:25.26 | sorphin | prpplague: as well as hair ;) |
| 21:25.40 | theDevil- | http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/belinuxsys/ |
| 21:26.11 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:26.17 | sorphin | $45 |
| 21:26.29 | prpplague | hmm, where did ade disappear too? i was waiting on my photo........ |
| 21:26.32 | chouimat | arrrgg 70CAD / |
| 21:26.38 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:26.39 | sorphin | prpplague: -:- SignOff ade|indy: #elinux (Remote closed the connection) |
| 21:27.13 | sorphin | and who the hell is Karim Yaghmour? |
| 21:27.25 | sorphin | heh |
| 21:27.33 | sorphin | pres of "Opersys Inc" |
| 21:27.36 | sorphin | never heard of em |
| 21:27.43 | sorphin | or him |
| 21:28.32 | chouimat | sorphin: Montreal Canada |
| 21:28.56 | sorphin | chouimat: explains it |
| 21:29.01 | prpplague | sorphin: probably some college professor embedded linux wannabie |
| 21:29.10 | chouimat | sorphin: opersys is a company in montreal |
| 21:29.25 | sorphin | i dunno if i trust that book ;) |
| 21:29.30 | sorphin | if a canuck wrote it ;) |
| 21:29.33 | prpplague | sorphin: i can say that because i'm a wannabie |
| 21:30.03 | sorphin | prpplague: you wanna be a college professor of embedded linux? :P |
| 21:30.05 | sorphin | :P |
| 21:30.10 | chouimat | prpplague: "He now holds a B.Eng. and an M.A.Sc. from the École Polytechnique de Montréal" |
| 21:30.28 | TheMasterMind1 | heh i should update my profile |
| 21:30.35 | chouimat | http://www.opersys.com/ |
| 21:30.41 | sorphin | theDevil-: wouldn't hurt ;) |
| 21:30.43 | sorphin | grr |
| 21:30.47 | sorphin | TheMasterMind1: wouldn't hurt ;) |
| 21:30.50 | theDevil- | Author Karim Yaghmour, a well-known designer and speaker who is responsible for the Linux Trace Toolkit, starts by discussing the strengths and weaknesses of Linux as an embedded operating system. |
| 21:30.55 | theDevil- | LTT |
| 21:31.05 | sorphin | which i've never used, nor seen |
| 21:31.10 | theDevil- | sorphin: You use Debian right? |
| 21:31.19 | chouimat | http://www.opersys.com/osiris/index.html <--- sound cool |
| 21:32.03 | sorphin | theDevil-: debian, sort of, my systems are hybrid debian + my own stuff... i don't use dist kernels tho |
| 21:32.25 | theDevil- | *nod* |
| 21:32.37 | kergoth | i've really taken a liking to 2.4.20-ck4 |
| 21:32.40 | chouimat | http://www.opersys.com/publications.html |
| 21:32.47 | sorphin | chouimat: we get the idea ;) |
| 21:33.00 | chouimat | sorphin: :) |
| 21:33.01 | sorphin | next you'll start singing oh canada :P |
| 21:33.05 | mallum | that web page is orrible |
| 21:33.15 | sorphin | mallum: wow |
| 21:33.18 | kergoth | s/canda/canada/ |
| 21:33.31 | kergoth | mallum: nice work on the crystal stuff in matchbox.. looks all perty |
| 21:33.44 | sorphin | mallum: you said orrible, and i heard it correctly that way too, thinking in british talk hehe |
| 21:33.46 | prpplague | sorphin: you know what i meant :) i want to be an embedded linux guru |
| 21:34.03 | prpplague | sorphin: just ain't the brains or the time |
| 21:34.08 | sorphin | prpplague: then you better assimilate timmy's brain |
| 21:34.28 | prpplague | sorphin: nope, just keep it a hobby and sell beer at my pub :) |
| 21:34.40 | kergoth | good plan |
| 21:35.09 | sorphin | prpplague: a free kernel compile w/ every glass? |
| 21:35.58 | kergoth | could really confuse the patrons and offer free blob w/ every glass |
| 21:36.21 | sorphin | kergoth: or a free digiboard w/ every pitcher |
| 21:36.33 | kergoth | sorphin: as a paperweight |
| 21:36.54 | prpplague | it will be the only pub in texas with net access kiosks above the urinals |
| 21:37.25 | chouimat | prpplague: for what for ... so your customers can still browse porn ? |
| 21:37.54 | mallum | kergoth: thanks |
| 21:37.59 | prpplague | chouimat: pr0n, see what beer to try next, schedule a prostate exam |
| 21:38.11 | chouimat | prpplague: hahaha |
| 21:38.13 | prpplague | chouimat: the net-possibilies are endless :) |
| 21:38.47 | kergoth | aha thatd be sweet, hop onto idrink.com |
| 21:38.51 | chouimat | prpplague: that better than what we have here ... advertisment ... |
| 21:39.19 | file | chouimat: are those Bell internet kiosks on DSL? |
| 21:39.30 | chouimat | file: don't know |
| 21:39.55 | mallum | kergoth: I remembered to thing I thought could hack around the dumb x x-compile problems - binfmt_misc , but it dont do at all what I remembered it too :( |
| 21:40.43 | kergoth | mallum: heh, lets just use output/staging/X/. stuff the links there, and add that as the first item in the path in the X makefile |
| 21:41.23 | prpplague | anyone remember an article on one of linux newspages about HA clustering in the last week or so? |
| 21:41.45 | chouimat | nope |
| 21:42.32 | mallum | kergoth: we'll have to build a seprate tmp x-compile dir, and softling everything in there to the real one |
| 21:42.47 | kergoth | mallum: yeah, thats what i said :) |
| 21:43.00 | mallum | kergoth: X specifically requests /path-to-x-compile/cc etc |
| 21:43.14 | mallum | kergoth: oh yeah so you did :-) |
| 21:43.19 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:43.42 | mallum | kergoth: I'll try that out later this evening |
| 21:43.48 | kergoth | cool |
| 21:50.29 | prpplague | crap i hate it when i lose a url |
| 21:51.04 | mallum | prpplague: thats what bookmarks are for |
| 21:51.31 | kergoth | I never use bookmarks, cause i work on too many machines |
| 21:51.31 | kergoth | heh |
| 21:51.32 | prpplague | mallum: i know, i thought i bm'd it |
| 21:52.03 | prpplague | ahh, found it |
| 21:52.06 | mallum | prpplague: did you put it and lose it in the mass of pron url's ? |
| 21:52.27 | *** join/#elinux TimRiker (~timr@proxyle02.ext.ti.com) |
| 21:52.27 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 21:52.33 | kergoth | yo TimRiker |
| 21:52.41 | file | hi Mr. Riker |
| 21:53.04 | chouimat | hi tim |
| 21:53.05 | prpplague | mallum: yep |
| 21:53.26 | TimRiker | hey all. |
| 21:53.50 | file | what yo' up to? |
| 21:54.23 | mallum | texas instruments ? |
| 21:54.31 | kergoth | yep |
| 21:54.38 | TimRikerTI | hacking... er.. understanding the ti network/firewall. |
| 21:55.23 | mallum | TimRikerTI: new job ? |
| 21:55.24 | fontenot | hi TimRikerTI got my boxes :-) |
| 21:56.16 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: sieve and i are attending a ratebeer get together at the flying saucer friday, your welcome to attend |
| 21:56.42 | file | It's a trap!!!! He's going to take all your embedded devices!!! |
| 21:56.48 | kergoth | file: shh! |
| 21:57.05 | CosmicPenguin | How did you get tim@ti.com |
| 21:57.06 | CosmicPenguin | ? |
| 21:57.13 | CosmicPenguin | There isn't another Tim in the whole company? |
| 21:57.32 | kergoth | he had them all killed |
| 21:57.35 | kergoth | :) |
| 21:57.41 | CosmicPenguin | are your email are belong to us, apparently |
| 21:57.49 | mallum | they were all fired on condition he joined |
| 21:57.59 | prpplague | "i was a CTO |
| 21:58.15 | prpplague | "none of the other tims were, so i want plain ol tim" |
| 21:58.55 | CosmicPenguin | heh |
| 21:58.56 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: so is today your first day at work in good ol'd DFW ? |
| 21:59.19 | CosmicPenguin | having <your name>@<your company>.com usually means you are the CEO, or the guy that hands out e-mail addresses |
| 21:59.57 | file | don't they usually do, <first name>_<last initial>@<company>.com? |
| 22:00.18 | CosmicPenguin | file: thats what I mean |
| 22:00.36 | sorphin | ah tim |
| 22:00.43 | file | uh oh... sorphin spotted him |
| 22:01.51 | TimRikerTI | prpplague: yep. /me is tim@ti.com |
| 22:02.12 | sorphin | TimRikerTI: cool |
| 22:02.46 | *** join/#elinux andersee (~andersen@codepoet.org) |
| 22:02.46 | *** mode/#eLinux [+o andersee] by ChanServ |
| 22:02.50 | file | hi andersee |
| 22:02.51 | sorphin | andersee: re again |
| 22:03.06 | andersee | hey |
| 22:03.50 | CosmicPenguin | andersee: and in your forest of a thousand drives, it must've been hard to find out which one was the culprit... :) |
| 22:04.25 | andersee | Well, I knew it wan't the 1/2 TB 1394 array |
| 22:05.00 | sorphin | TimRikerTI: btw.. we updated the DCT page.. you'd missed the BCM 7010 in the middle of the board :) |
| 22:08.00 | sjhill | wow, wish i had spare 120gb drives laying around |
| 22:08.15 | sorphin | sjhill: yo |
| 22:08.27 | sorphin | sjhill: we could use you ;) |
| 22:10.52 | sorphin | TimRikerTI: so what'd you find for a house down there? |
| 22:11.06 | sjhill | heh |
| 22:11.26 | sorphin | sjhill: did you retain anything on the 7010 ? |
| 22:11.30 | sorphin | ;) |
| 22:13.23 | TimRikerTI | sorphin: low 300s. |
| 22:13.28 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: what part of dfw did you find a house at? |
| 22:13.37 | sorphin | heh |
| 22:13.45 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: lol 300's wow |
| 22:13.51 | prpplague | low |
| 22:14.15 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: ti must be paying you a healthy salary |
| 22:14.26 | kergoth | heh |
| 22:15.12 | prpplague | a 200k house around here is a huge house |
| 22:15.29 | fontenot | party at tim's house |
| 22:15.54 | prpplague | fontenot: sieve and i will crash friday for everyone :) |
| 22:16.23 | chouimat|away | prpplague: sorry too far away ... |
| 22:16.29 | kergoth | heheh |
| 22:17.24 | kergoth | heheh |
| 22:17.58 | chouimat | kergoth: :P |
| 22:18.55 | kergoth | BORED |
| 22:19.28 | chouimat | kergoth: that a very good song from Death Angel 's Frolic through the park |
| 22:19.38 | kergoth | k |
| 22:19.46 | chouimat | kergoth: 1988 |
| 22:22.52 | TimRikerTI | prpplague: heh. ya know, I've been saving money, and with the market the way it is, I decided I'd live in some of it instead. ;-) |
| 22:23.38 | TimRikerTI | prices in dallas are higher than other areas in TX, and I expect salarys are higher too, but likely not that much higher. |
| 22:23.58 | TimRikerTI | anytime you're in dalls, feel free to drop by. |
| 22:24.39 | fontenot | dallas and austin are relatively expensive for tx |
| 22:29.18 | sorphin | TimRikerTI: didn't you say you'd found some build stuff for the DCT's before your departure? |
| 22:36.22 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: lol, sieve and i will be in dallas friday for a ratebeer get together at the flying saucer |
| 22:36.29 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: you welcome to attend |
| 22:36.41 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: however i suspect you;ll be busy moving in |
| 22:38.10 | TimRikerTI | sorphin: yes. I've not gone through it yet. I will and I'll post whatever I can. |
| 22:38.57 | TimRikerTI | prpplague: heh. well as I don't drink... ;-) I'd join just to hang out, but I'm headed back to utah friday night. |
| 22:39.55 | prpplague | TimRikerTI: ahh |
| 22:58.37 | fontenot | TimRikerTI: wouldnt it be easier to just post all of it - not bother going through it? :-D |
| 23:00.22 | *** join/#elinux GPSFan_ (~kenm@65.114.238.130) |
| 23:00.23 | TimRikerTI | fontenot: easier for you perhaps, you would not have to answer the lawsuit. |
| 23:01.11 | fontenot | TimRikerTI: yeah, jk :-) |
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| 23:18.17 | sorphin | CosmicPenguin: it always is ;) |
| 23:18.28 | kergoth | hrm |
| 23:18.53 | sorphin | TimRikerTI: can you give any insights on how to get anything onto it? will it have to be jtag? |
| 23:29.27 | CosmicPenguin | wow |
| 23:30.46 | chouimat | CosmicPenguin: yup ... need to find the last version I wrote not that prototype |
| 23:46.29 | TimRikerTI | sorphin: not yet, no. |
| 23:47.13 | CosmicPenguin | only 195 errors... not too shabby.. :) |
